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Aloha1
05-19-2020, 01:02 PM
- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

- Yesterday, Moderna, a pharmaceutical development company, announced positive results in it's first trial of a revolutionary new way to design a vaccine based on genetic research. Using genetic mRNA ( ribonucleic acid) from the SARS-CoV-2 virus ( Wuhan Virus). the mRNA tell the body to begin producing antibodies to the virus which block the virus from entering the cells. No actual virus is used or injected, just this "messenger" RNA. After two doses over 43 days, test subjects had similar or far greater antibodies than those found in the blood serum of recovered cases. No adverse side effects were found. Phase 2 is under way with an increased number of test subjects and Moderna expects to have millions of doses ready later this year.

- Finally, Sorrento Theraputics, another developer, announced last Friday that they had isolated an antibody, STI-1499, that they claim can provide "100% inhibition of the Wuhan Virus. Injecting the antibody eliminates the need for a vaccine to do the work. More testing needs to be done but it is promising.

Bottom line, American genius and American business are running at top speed to eliminate the threat. Things are looking up!

billethkid
05-19-2020, 01:09 PM
Yes indeed.
:clap2:

Aces4
05-19-2020, 01:30 PM
- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

- Yesterday, Moderna, a pharmaceutical development company, announced positive results in it's first trial of a revolutionary new way to design a vaccine based on genetic research. Using genetic mRNA ( ribonucleic acid) from the SARS-CoV-2 virus ( Wuhan Virus). the mRNA tell the body to begin producing antibodies to the virus which block the virus from entering the cells. No actual virus is used or injected, just this "messenger" RNA. After two doses over 43 days, test subjects had similar or far greater antibodies than those found in the blood serum of recovered cases. No adverse side effects were found. Phase 2 is under way with an increased number of test subjects and Moderna expects to have millions of doses ready later this year.

- Finally, Sorrento Theraputics, another developer, announced last Friday that they had isolated an antibody, STI-1499, that they claim can provide "100% inhibition of the Wuhan Virus. Injecting the antibody eliminates the need for a vaccine to do the work. More testing needs to be done but it is promising.

Bottom line, American genius and American business are running at top speed to eliminate the threat. Things are looking up!

Sorrento is hooked to China. I’m not interested, myself. Working in America and using our ingenuity or totally brilliant on their own? I’d rather have the vaccine if that would be the case.

graciegirl
05-19-2020, 01:38 PM
Sorrento is hooked to China. I’m not interested, myself. Working in America and using our ingenuity or totally brilliant on their own? I’d rather have the vaccine f that would be the case.

I really do not see a reason for this anti-Chinese sentiment. I am glad that the trade agreement is in place, but I do not believe that the virus is a weapon from Wuhan.

Not using a tool to save lives is shooting ourselves in the heart.

Aces4
05-19-2020, 01:43 PM
I really do not see a reason for this anti-Chinese sentiment. I am glad that the trade agreement is in place, but I do not believe that the virus is a weapon from Wuhan.

Not using a tool to save lives is shooting ourselves in the heart.

And that is why we are not independent of China since they now produce a great amount of our pharmaceutical rx’s along with other important products. Many of us were raised not to put our health and safety in the hands of a hostile, foreign government. Perhaps you’ve heard about them attempting to hack American scientists computers to gain the inroad on this virus. Also, research performed in labs in America has been stolen and then patented by China.

BTW, this isn’t about the Chinese people, it is about the regime running their country.

manaboutown
05-19-2020, 01:59 PM
And that is why we are not independent of China since they now produce a great amount of our pharmaceutical rx’s along with other important products. Many of us were raised not to put our health and safety in the hands of a hostile, foreign government. Perhaps you’ve heard about them attempting to hack American scientists computers to gain the inroad on this virus. Also, research performed in labs in America has been stolen and then patented by China.

The Chinese have been ripping off our intellectual property all my adult life. When I started as a Patent Examiner at the United States Patent and Trademark Office in 1966 the more experienced Examiners were referring to knock-offs as "Chinese copies", a term I had not heard before.

As IT and the internet developed they started to spy on us with what they sold to us. Much of what they build and sell is suspect, their phones, drones, vehicular hardware and software and much more.

JimJohnson
05-19-2020, 04:58 PM
I trust the WHO and they are not blaming the Chinese. Monitor, please stop deleting my opinions.

JimJohnson
05-19-2020, 05:02 PM
I really do not see a reason for this anti-Chinese sentiment. I am glad that the trade agreement is in place, but I do not believe that the virus is a weapon from Wuhan.

Not using a tool to save lives is shooting ourselves in the heart.

I have tried to agree with you on this twice. I believe the World Health Organization when they say China has been transparent on this issue.:boom:

Aces4
05-19-2020, 06:45 PM
I trust the WHO and they are not blaming the Chinese. Monitor, please stop deleting my opinions.

If it helps, I mentally deleted your statement as soon as I read it.

Kenswing
05-19-2020, 07:11 PM
If it helps, I mentally deleted your statement as soon as I read it.
Best post of the day.. :1rotfl:

Aloha1
05-19-2020, 08:11 PM
Sorrento is hooked to China. I’m not interested, myself. Working in America and using our ingenuity or totally brilliant on their own? I’d rather have the vaccine if that would be the case.

Please elaborate with some backup to your claim. I cannot find anything other than the founder is of Chinese descent.

I also listed THREE examples of progress. You want to disregard them all?? Well, I at least tried to bring some science into the disagreements rampant here lately.

Aloha1
05-19-2020, 08:15 PM
I trust the WHO and they are not blaming the Chinese. Monitor, please stop deleting my opinions.

I must respectfully disagree with you. There is ample evidence that the Chinese Communist Party deliberately withheld information on this virus and that WHO accepted it hook, line, and sinker. We also have video of the #3 person at WHO refusing to acknowledge the name of the country of Taiwan in regards to their volunteering information about the outbreak in January. Much kowtowing to the CCP by WHO. Please do some research.

Aces4
05-19-2020, 08:52 PM
Please elaborate with some backup to your claim. I cannot find anything other than the founder is of Chinese descent.

I also listed THREE examples of progress. You want to disregard them all?? Well, I at least tried to bring some science into the disagreements rampant here lately.

I can’t link urls. Therefore, I suggest you do online research for San Diego, June 4, 2019 Sorrento Therapeutics forms joint Chinese venture. Dig around awhile and it appears that Sorrento owns 40%, Life Tech (Chinese) owns 60% since this venture. I heard earlier in a news report that the company with this possible treatment is Chinese.

I do appreciate your other good news.

Slapnut
05-20-2020, 04:46 AM
Be very careful of who you trust these days. Remember when we used to trust the news?

Slapnut
05-20-2020, 04:51 AM
Be very careful of who you trust these days. Remember when we used to trust the news? There is so much corruption and it's usually about power or money. When we start believing something or someone without first doing our homework and researching whatever or whoever it is, then we become sheep and just follow the rest. Be aware

woderfulwendy1
05-20-2020, 04:54 AM
Https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrasternlicht/2020/05/19/scientists-raise-questions-about-moderna-vaccine-in-market-shaking-report[/url]

matandch
05-20-2020, 04:55 AM
Wuhan virus?🤔. What’s that, something new? Not another novel virus. At this rate we’re doomed.😳 We haven’t even figured out how to deal with covid-19 yet! One thing after another..

Skunky1
05-20-2020, 05:20 AM
Opinions vary

jebartle
05-20-2020, 05:39 AM
Be very careful of who you trust these days. Remember when we used to trust the news?

Please don't throw out all news, opinions are like, well you
Know the rest. Separate news from opinions and you will be watching more PBS.

Dana1963
05-20-2020, 05:45 AM
Currently Florida is basically flat showing slight increases daily of infections.
Being outdoors in sunlight (ultraviolet light) does help kill virus on surfaces quickly where being in an indoor enviorment and close contact with infected people help spread virus.

Jimmy77
05-20-2020, 06:04 AM
I haven't been able to find the study you're referring to, Aloha. Could you provide a link?

Cview
05-20-2020, 06:20 AM
Finally some good news. Thanks for sharing.

stadry
05-20-2020, 06:36 AM
,,, for this anti-Chinese sentiment.' how can 1 not understand it ? its not ad hominem but ad government,,, whether weaponized or not, i don't think anyone can yet prove but conspiracists are having a field day, no ?

'Not using a tool to save lives is shooting ourselves in the heart.' heart = feelings, head = objectivity,,, feelings are nice but head rules in the real world,,, obviously those who use their head are often able to sway those who only rely on feelings

have only been to mainland china once - 3 week tour - did NOT meet 1 chinaman OR woman who wasn't pleasant, friendly, &/or helpful,,, i believe most people are the same - given the choice, we want to: 1, live in peace; 2, feed, clothe, & house our children; & 3, feel safe for our children's future.

the chinese government is a far different story & those who do not recognize that would, either by ignorance or stupidity, contribute to endangering my family.

bmit16
05-20-2020, 06:42 AM
I would have to totally disregard anyones opinion who believes the Chinese government is on the up and up. There is way too much evidence on both sides of the aisle to support not only they withheld info about the virus that has brought harm to the entire world, but also that they spy on us trying to steal our research on vaccines. Plus, it is a well known fact that they have been buying up american food companies in an attempt to control the American food chain. They have taxed the US disproportionately for years and as a result we are billions in debt to them. I would be very suspect of anyone in America that believes the Chinese are good for America.

mulligan
05-20-2020, 06:49 AM
When did we decide it is a good idea to support a Communist country ??

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-20-2020, 07:11 AM
- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

I believe that it's been fairly common knowledge that it's very difficult to contract this virus while outdoors. The problem that I see is that we go from our air conditioned homes, to our air conditioned cars and into air conditioned stores and business. And the people that work in those businesses are in that air conditioned environment for eight hours.

The chances of contracting the virus in a business is not reduced by 22%-25%. And the chance of you transferring it someone in your home is not reduced, unless you keep your AC set above 77*.

David Fletcher
05-20-2020, 07:12 AM
Everyone is focused on if the Chinese Government is on the up and up. Maybe someone can give an example of a Government that is on the up and up?

It is all politics and the simple fact of life is everything is sadly all about politics.

If only we could think bigger than The USA and think about mankind.

Just sayin

chuckpedrey
05-20-2020, 07:15 AM
Sparty presents the “facts” and gets a bogus argument in response. It’s really hard to reason with the opposition when they have been influenced by fake news.

eluce
05-20-2020, 07:24 AM
Thank you for the bright notes. It is always nice to hear good positive news!!

JulieER
05-20-2020, 07:29 AM
There will sure be a lot of phases with Moderna’s first testing run with just 8 people...

soniak4@gmail.com
05-20-2020, 07:30 AM
I really do not see a reason for this anti-Chinese sentiment. I am glad that the trade agreement is in place, but I do not believe that the virus is a weapon from Wuhan.

Not using a tool to save lives is shooting ourselves in the heart.

Graciegirl, one day, I must meet you!!

Aces4
05-20-2020, 07:31 AM
Everyone is focused on if the Chinese Government is on the up and up. Maybe someone can give an example of a Government that is on the up and up?

It is all politics and the simple fact of life is everything is sadly all about politics.

If only we could think bigger than The USA and think about mankind.

Just sayin

Baloney. If China would have reached out to the USA when this virus first occurred there, I know the USA would have done everything they could to help stabilize the virus and China. Big difference.

Foruhun
05-20-2020, 07:38 AM
Thanks
Appreciate your thoughts!

JimJohnson
05-20-2020, 07:43 AM
Our government was fully aware of this virus in early January. Why were we not notified immediately?

GoodLife
05-20-2020, 07:48 AM
Moderna vaccines study was deeply flawed and the stock dropped Tuesday
Bottom line United States leads the world in deaths by a wide margin by cov-19. MAke America sick again

Moderna's vaccine study was deeply flawed? You must be from the future since they haven't published a study yet, just a press release about promising early results. If you bothered to read the article in Forbes or Stat News you would know this.

The two experts they interviewed for those articles basically said we need all the data published before knowing if this is truly a breakthrough. Moderna says they will publish all the data when the study is completed.

Final quote from one of the experts:

“I would like to see the data to make my own interpretation of the data. But I think it is at least encouraging that we’ve seen immune responses with this RNA vaccine that we haven’t seen with previous RNA vaccines for other pathogens. Whether it’s going to be enough, we don’t know,” Durbin said.

PS I wonder if this had something to do with stock market dropping yesterday.

The Congressional Budget Office also released a bleak outlook on economic growth and unemployment, predicting a 38% drop in second-quarter GDP as 26 million Americans remain without a job.

Aces4
05-20-2020, 07:51 AM
Our government was fully aware of this virus in early January. Why were we not notified immediately?

Because China lied about the contagion factor, wouldn’t share information about the virus and sent their Wuhan citizens around the world. We all heard about this virus by early January but do you really believe Americans would have allowed a total shutdown of the government in early January? Dream on.

deebrock
05-20-2020, 07:59 AM
Wow two encouraging statements in the first post then boom. Down the tubes you all go. I was told this was not a nice place. Now I see why.

GoodLife
05-20-2020, 08:01 AM
Our government was fully aware of this virus in early January. Why were we not notified immediately?

"The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Dr. Fauci January 27

Risk of coronavirus to USA is miniscule, skip the mask and wash your hands
Dr Fauci Feb 17

theruizs
05-20-2020, 08:03 AM
It is COVID-19, not the “Wuhan virus.” The latter is just anti-Chinese propaganda that does no good for anyone to keep repeating. Sad to see that is being used in what are supposed to be reports on scientific breakthroughs.

Aces4
05-20-2020, 08:05 AM
Thanks
Appreciate your thoughts!

You’re welcome!

Aces4
05-20-2020, 08:07 AM
"The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Dr. Fauci January 27

Risk of coronavirus to USA is miniscule, skip the mask and wash your hands
Dr Fauci Feb 17

As we were advised by China who would not allow the USA scientists access.

pamhobbs
05-20-2020, 08:12 AM
- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

- Yesterday, Moderna, a pharmaceutical development company, announced positive results in it's first trial of a revolutionary new way to design a vaccine based on genetic research. Using genetic mRNA ( ribonucleic acid) from the SARS-CoV-2 virus ( Wuhan Virus). the mRNA tell the body to begin producing antibodies to the virus which block the virus from entering the cells. No actual virus is used or injected, just this "messenger" RNA. After two doses over 43 days, test subjects had similar or far greater antibodies than those found in the blood serum of recovered cases. No adverse side effects were found. Phase 2 is under way with an increased number of test subjects and Moderna expects to have millions of doses ready later this year.

- Finally, Sorrento Theraputics, another developer, announced last Friday that they had isolated an antibody, STI-1499, that they claim can provide "100% inhibition of the Wuhan Virus. Injecting the antibody eliminates the need for a vaccine to do the work. More testing needs to be done but it is promising.

Bottom line, American genius and American business are running at top speed to eliminate the threat. Things are looking up!
Where can I find these studies or the source of these studies

merrymini
05-20-2020, 08:16 AM
If the virus not not intentionally put out but mistakenly put out, I find little comfort in that. It looks like it originated in Wuhan, so calling it that does not seem inappropriate to me. The WHO not listening to Taiwan, who used the best methods and suffered the least in the world, is just plain stupid and can be attributed to it’s ties to China and did a huge disservice to the rest of the planet in what should have been it’s primary job. The EU supporting WHO and lambasting us for our criticism can pony up the dough to support it.

GoodLife
05-20-2020, 08:18 AM
As we were advised by China who would not allow the USA scientists access.

January 20 China confirms human-to-human transmission as WHO emergency group meets

Aces4
05-20-2020, 08:25 AM
January 20 China confirms human-to-human transmission as WHO emergency group meets

Hence, the travel ban for which much grief was given.

cheweycat
05-20-2020, 08:25 AM
Wuhan Virus? Do you mean the corona virus or covid 19? Please, you are showing your political stripes in your rather interesting “scientific” article.

cheweycat
05-20-2020, 08:27 AM
And the world is flat. Oh no, we have moved on from that and learned otherwise.

GoodLife
05-20-2020, 08:31 AM
Hence, the travel ban for which much grief was given.

Yes correct, I put the Dr Fauci quotes up there for those that think he's the second coming and to remind them that the chief epidemiologist of the USA was giving some bad advice to the administration. Fauci also initially argued against the China travel ban and said they don't work. The genetic studies tracing the virus I've posted show that most of the infections in USA came from Europe to New York City, and from New York City to the rest of USA. Not direct from China.

PugMom
05-20-2020, 08:33 AM
Our government was fully aware of this virus in early January. Why were we not notified immediately?

i think nobody expected this disease to get out of hand. i distinctly remember @ 1 point fauci saying we didnt need masks, or any type of restrictions because the virus was of little concern to us. boy has that changed!!!

LKFraserFL
05-20-2020, 09:34 AM
- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

- Yesterday, Moderna, a pharmaceutical development company, announced positive results in it's first trial of a revolutionary new way to design a vaccine based on genetic research. Using genetic mRNA ( ribonucleic acid) from the SARS-CoV-2 virus ( Wuhan Virus). the mRNA tell the body to begin producing antibodies to the virus which block the virus from entering the cells. No actual virus is used or injected, just this "messenger" RNA. After two doses over 43 days, test subjects had similar or far greater antibodies than those found in the blood serum of recovered cases. No adverse side effects were found. Phase 2 is under way with an increased number of test subjects and Moderna expects to have millions of doses ready later this year.

- Finally, Sorrento Theraputics, another developer, announced last Friday that they had isolated an antibody, STI-1499, that they claim can provide "100% inhibition of the Wuhan Virus. Injecting the antibody eliminates the need for a vaccine to do the work. More testing needs to be done but it is promising.

Bottom line, American genius and American business are running at top speed to eliminate the threat. Things are looking up!
There is probably a quick answer, but if the virus dies above 77 degrees, how does it survive in our bodies at 98 degrees? Just sayin'....

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05-20-2020, 09:48 AM
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nikonuser1
05-20-2020, 10:59 AM
If the 77 degree temperature reduces the rate of infection, why is it that Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties have the majority of the infections in FL? Makes no sense.

DonnaNi4os
05-20-2020, 11:22 AM
I would truly like to believe that warm weather is a deterrent to COVID-19, however, it was summer in Australia when it was winter in the US. Their hot weather didn’t stop it and I believe Tom Hanks and his wife were in Australia when they contracted the virus. Australia is reluctantly beginning to open up. Time will tell. I can only say that I am hopeful that the warmer temperatures will make a difference, but I have my doubts that weather is the difference. The temperatures in Australia varied from the 70’s to 90’s during the months the virus was at its worse there.

Spikearoni
05-20-2020, 12:25 PM
If it helps, I mentally deleted your statement as soon as I read it.

Indeed, some folks find it much easier to IGNORE facts or "DELETE" them from their minds because the FACTS present a challenge to their baseless, unsupported, conclusions. Hence, the word IGNORANT becomes applicable. Even if it's uncomfortable to consider information that is contrary to one's viewpoint, it is vital to do so in order to develop a modicum of intellectual prowess.

Aloha1
05-20-2020, 12:41 PM
I haven't been able to find the study you're referring to, Aloha. Could you provide a link?

Hotter Summer Temperatures May Slow Down COVID-19 Transmission, but are Not Likely to Quench the Epidemic, According to New Research from the MIT Sloan School of Management | BioSpace (https://www.biospace.com/article/hotter-summer-temperatures-may-slow-down-covid-19-transmission-but-are-not-likely-to-quench-the-epidemic-according-to-new-research-from-the-mit-sloan-school-of-management/)

Aloha1
05-20-2020, 12:49 PM
Wuhan virus?🤔. What’s that, something new? Not another novel virus. At this rate we’re doomed.😳 We haven’t even figured out how to deal with covid-19 yet! One thing after another..

Using standard nomenclature for viruses, the SARS-Cov-2 virus was originally linked to Wuhan, China hence the name Wuhan Virus, The term Covid19 refers to the disease caused by the Wuhan Virus. They are the same.

Aces4
05-20-2020, 12:49 PM
Indeed, some folks find it much easier to IGNORE facts or "DELETE" them from their minds because the FACTS present a challenge to their baseless, unsupported, conclusions. Hence, the word IGNORANT becomes applicable. Even if it's uncomfortable to consider information that is contrary to one's viewpoint, it is vital to do so in order to develop a modicum of intellectual prowess.

Sorry you applied the ignorant factor to your life. Those of us who well-read from reliable sources prefer to spit the malarkey factor from our brains.

That poster directly attacked the moderator of this forum which is a no-no, if you were unaware.

Aloha1
05-20-2020, 12:51 PM
Wow two encouraging statements in the first post then boom. Down the tubes you all go. I was told this was not a nice place. Now I see why.

Don't be discouraged. This IS a nice place to live! Some folks have just been cooped up too long, I guess.

Aloha1
05-20-2020, 12:54 PM
It is COVID-19, not the “Wuhan virus.” The latter is just anti-Chinese propaganda that does no good for anyone to keep repeating. Sad to see that is being used in what are supposed to be reports on scientific breakthroughs.

No it is not. I refer you to Ebola, Zika, Hong Kong Flu, etc. All named after the origin sites.
In 2015, that paragon of independence, WHO, went PC and decided to not use that naming convention any more . Perhaps you should ask them why?

Aloha1
05-20-2020, 12:56 PM
Where can I find these studies or the source of these studies

I provided one further up but Google your friend. Just type in Sorrento, or Monderna, or MIT Temperature study.

Aloha1
05-20-2020, 12:57 PM
Wuhan Virus? Do you mean the corona virus or covid 19? Please, you are showing your political stripes in your rather interesting “scientific” article.
Read Post #63. I gave the scientific rationale for the naming. It is correct.

Aloha1
05-20-2020, 01:05 PM
If the 77 degree temperature reduces the rate of infection, why is it that Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties have the majority of the infections in FL? Makes no sense.

The key word is REDUCES. It does not eliminate it. As to South Florida, what I have read is that social distancing was only a "suggestion" to many people plus the return of cruise ship passengers and international travel from Europe through MIA brought positive cases.

Once the virus is in your body, you are infected and the disease will run it's course regardless of body temp.

DARFAP
05-20-2020, 05:27 PM
And according to the Italians, after conducting 50+ autopsies, this virus is not respiratory at all. It is a circulatory thrombosis (clotting) virus that we should be treating with antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, and antu-coagulants. No degree of ventilating the lungs will eliminate blood clots forming in the lungs. So who do we believe?

ronvillages
05-20-2020, 05:48 PM
I wish free trade meant trade freely between free peoples.

junieben
05-20-2020, 05:59 PM
The world goes around on beliefs!

Mumbles
05-20-2020, 07:56 PM
Be very careful of who you trust these days. Remember when we used to trust the news?

I remember when we used to blindly trust every word from any journeyman on TV. (well, many of us)

Thank goodness! NOW we trust every word written as opinion on TotV. Any difference?

Mumbles
05-20-2020, 08:07 PM
Wow two encouraging statements in the first post then boom. Down the tubes you all go. I was told this was not a nice place. Now I see why.

Honestly, if you don't want to be rabidly frustrated, now is the time to pull out of this awkward and sometimes bleak discussion format. imho

ColdNoMore
05-20-2020, 08:16 PM
The world goes around on beliefs

All too often, regardless of facts....or the truth.

Mumbles
05-20-2020, 08:17 PM
Yes correct, I put the Dr Fauci quotes up there for those that think he's the second coming and to remind them that the chief epidemiologist of the USA was giving some bad advice to the administration. Fauci also initially argued against the China travel ban and said they don't work. The genetic studies tracing the virus I've posted show that most of the infections in USA came from Europe to New York City, and from New York City to the rest of USA. Not direct from China.

1, Shame all over you for stating that ANYBODY with a head and heart would believe that Dr. Fauci is Jesus returning to us. That is a very dishonest and denigrating put down which I would not expect from a "veteran" poster. You've seen enough crap in TotV to know that put downs reflect on YOU rather than the poster you're responding to.
2. The Asian source, I think, came from China, through Asia, and to our west coast. Now, "veteran", what kind of garbage will you spew out about me?

Mumbles
05-20-2020, 08:23 PM
i think nobody expected this disease to get out of hand. i distinctly remember @ 1 point fauci saying we didnt need masks, or any type of restrictions because the virus was of little concern to us. boy has that changed!!!

Like many of us, I listened to about 90% of all TV appearances this year of Dr. Fauci. Two problems: there is no finesse in bringing back early, ignorant statements a person makes before experiencing a difference that makes one change one's mind.

Second problem: However, I never heard him or Dr. Birks say that it was of "little concern to us". Do you recall roughly what date he said that on? I recorded all those appearances.

Villagerjjm
05-20-2020, 08:23 PM
- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

- Yesterday, Moderna, a pharmaceutical development company, announced positive results in it's first trial of a revolutionary new way to design a vaccine based on genetic research. Using genetic mRNA ( ribonucleic acid) from the SARS-CoV-2 virus ( Wuhan Virus). the mRNA tell the body to begin producing antibodies to the virus which block the virus from entering the cells. No actual virus is used or injected, just this "messenger" RNA. After two doses over 43 days, test subjects had similar or far greater antibodies than those found in the blood serum of recovered cases. No adverse side effects were found. Phase 2 is under way with an increased number of test subjects and Moderna expects to have millions of doses ready later this year.

- Finally, Sorrento Theraputics, another developer, announced last Friday that they had isolated an antibody, STI-1499, that they claim can provide "100% inhibition of the Wuhan Virus. Injecting the antibody eliminates the need for a vaccine to do the work. More testing needs to be done but it is promising.

Bottom line, American genius and American business are running at top speed to eliminate the threat. Things are looking up!

Could you supply some links to support your claims? You can post links on this site, contrary to another post. I have done it. If you don't supply links, your comment is just a bunch of crap.

Villagerjjm
05-20-2020, 08:29 PM
- A joint MIT and Harvard study has determined that the Wuhan Virus has difficulty transmitting in temperatures over 77 degrees. They have determined that the rate of transmission drops an average of 1.7% for each degree at 77 or above. Adding in humidity and wind enhances the decrease. Today will be around 90 and humid. You have a 22% to 25% LESS chance of getting infected.

- Yesterday, Moderna, a pharmaceutical development company, announced positive results in it's first trial of a revolutionary new way to design a vaccine based on genetic research. Using genetic mRNA ( ribonucleic acid) from the SARS-CoV-2 virus ( Wuhan Virus). the mRNA tell the body to begin producing antibodies to the virus which block the virus from entering the cells. No actual virus is used or injected, just this "messenger" RNA. After two doses over 43 days, test subjects had similar or far greater antibodies than those found in the blood serum of recovered cases. No adverse side effects were found. Phase 2 is under way with an increased number of test subjects and Moderna expects to have millions of doses ready later this year.

- Finally, Sorrento Theraputics, another developer, announced last Friday that they had isolated an antibody, STI-1499, that they claim can provide "100% inhibition of the Wuhan Virus. Injecting the antibody eliminates the need for a vaccine to do the work. More testing needs to be done but it is promising.

Bottom line, American genius and American business are running at top speed to eliminate the threat. Things are looking up!

The news articles such as the one I have posted below tend to go against what you are saying:

Moderna’s early coronavirus vaccine results lack crucial data – BGR (https://bgr.com/2020/05/20/coronavirus-vaccine-moderna-drug-news-lack-full-scientific-data/)

Once again, could you please post some links to back up what you posted?