Comment from Chris Cuomo

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Chris, in my opinion, is one of the few left-leaning independent thinkers in favor of reopening the country now*. Yesterday on his radio show he said this (paraphrasing). "I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives."

*You're probably aware that feelings about reopening the country are, like most issues, going along party lines: In general, one side wants to wait longer to reopen, and the other side is ready to open now. *In general.*

[GoodLife]

Chris, in my opinion, is one of the few left-leaning independent thinkers in favor of reopening the country now*. Yesterday on his radio show he said this (paraphrasing). "I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives."

*You're probably aware that feelings about reopening the country are, like most issues, going along party lines: In general, one side wants to wait longer to reopen, and the other side is ready to open now. *In general.*

Only problem with Chis is he was caught 30 miles from his home on a lot he owns while he was still under quarantine as a positive covid 19 patient.

Then CNN staged a live "emergence" from his basement a few days.

At least he is trying to redeem himself with this latest open up opinion

[graciegirl]

Chris, in my opinion, is one of the few left-leaning independent thinkers in favor of reopening the country now*. Yesterday on his radio show he said this (paraphrasing). "I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives."

*You're probably aware that feelings about reopening the country are, like most issues, going along party lines: In general, one side wants to wait longer to reopen, and the other side is ready to open now. *In general.*

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.


polls showing concern about reopening businesses - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=polls+showing+concern+about+reopening+bus inesses&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=84eafa760cc3441eb20e388a13fcb115&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdniHYN1DXZJ*fPg3Zw*BU5Iwa% 21VcsvdIcp2f1exbLGjjF8XVZAN9iPZWKp%21TbuvCi2E3xyDG h7oEvMI8VLtizlLt&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)

[Marvic 1]

That's odd :confused:, just last week he was calling people stupid for just walking on the beach.....

[davem4616]

IMHO, reopening will continue to occur via slow and deliberate rollout processes....once there is a vaccine everything will open and we'll see who made it through it all

how many businesses that have been around for decades and will be able to hang on is anybody's guess....many that we've enjoyed doing business with may very well not make it....for some this shut down will be the straw that finally pushed them over the brink (internet commerce vs. brick and mortar stores)...

our world is changing faster than I imagined it would...but it is what it is

[anothersteve]

Both Cuomo's .................................................. .....!!
Steve

[Marvic 1]

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to Opening Business as Usual. That is my opinion and I will link.

The Key-Work would be "Opening Business Safely" I'm sure the 70% statistic would drop to 40%...

[graciegirl]

The Key-Work would be "Opening Business Safely" I'm sure the 70% statistic would drop to 40%...

Definition of an oxymoron; definition of an oxymoron - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=definition+of+an+oxymoron&form=EDGHPT&qs=DA&cvid=287c1106d3fb4dc1a6925ab8ff804933&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdngTK9qt7i91EzmYIutRmmBeEW LS091uNFv*wtSVovlTEQXfoW5mVKhk9yz61VyKRXz1i1mylYWP 0UKuonaYx7qD&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)

There are degrees of safety and there are different levels of risk according to age.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.


polls showing concern about reopening businesses - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=polls+showing+concern+about+reopening+bus inesses&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=84eafa760cc3441eb20e388a13fcb115&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdniHYN1DXZJ*fPg3Zw*BU5Iwa% 21VcsvdIcp2f1exbLGjjF8XVZAN9iPZWKp%21TbuvCi2E3xyDG h7oEvMI8VLtizlLt&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)

Thank you for that, Gracie. I think we're all concerned about the "health risk" of reopening. But whether or not people are willing to take those risks, and take appropriate precautions to manage the risk *while reopening* is another matter.

I should have said my evidence about the political divide is only anecdotal, but my experience has shown a lot of consistency of opinion depending on affiliation. Most on the left want to go slowly, and most of the ones who want to reopen now, in my experience, lean right. Of course, there are a lot of exceptions to both, but it's what I've noticed. It could be completely off base, but in some of my conversations with folks, they've noticed the same dichotomy.

I watch all three cable TV news networks, and I clearly see this division being played out there, i.e., the conservative station is ready to reopen and the two liberal stations do not support reopening yet.

Not that it matters. I'm just glad that Chris, who is indeed a spokesperson for the left, had the courage to speak his mind.

Another thing, left-leaners seem to prefer staying closed, but that doesn't mean that everyone who isn't ready to reopen leans left.

[JoMar]

It's not the reopening, it's the risk we are willing to accept. There is a contingent that believe nothing can happen to them and the otherside that believe everything will happen to them. It's a moot discussion since the one side will never convince the other (you know., like politics) but they will try. This is one of those things that the only proof will be in hindsight.

[Velvet]

Both Cuomo's .................................................. .....!!
Steve

Walk on water, as far as I’m concerned. Okay, I’m kidding. But anybody that sticks it out day after day... after what NewYork went through.... Previously, no one in Europe outside of Italy knew that Cuomo was an actual name of a person.

Still it would be nice if Chris was a little more balanced in his views. He discredits himself by using selective, self-serving “facts” sometimes.

[GoodLife]

Chris also mocked POTUS for taking hydroxychloroquine while he took a less safe derivative of the drug according to his wife's blog.

LOL

[Jayhawk]

Fredo Cuomo. Just like the original Fredo.

[stadry]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1768482]That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.

too bad - i would have hoped 100% ! yet, despite risks, there are many who need to make a living to support themselves & their families.
the country can't keep borrowing & mortgaging our grandchildren's future. selfish seniors - what is the sense of winning 1 battle only to lose a war ? waiting on a vaccine ? tell that to aids sufferers !

but nice try hijacking the thread when the original thought was fredo's comment - nothing to do w/polls,,, he's just another ' do as i say, not as i do ' lightweights.

[riley2011]

Fredo’s brother killed off a lot of the elderly in NY. I guess they were expendable. Cleaned out the nursing homes.

[Tom2172]

Chris Cuomo? The loud mouth!
The one who’s brother sentenced people in nursing homes to death! By executive order requiring nursing homes to take patients who tested positive for Chinese corona virus
Chis cuomo who yells about people should stay quarantined while he’s out and about!
The cris cuomo who rails against Hydroxychloroquine & zinc but takes quinine made from tree bark (which isn’t approved & has side effects) this was later synthesized in between what we know today is Hydroxychloroquine which is safe & taken by million daily
That Chris Cuomo or the one who threatens to beat people up In steroid rages?

[J1ceasar]

Done. Hospitals nor capacity . Done.
Ventilators done
Open up and stay home if you feel safer . not done . but common sense
Horrible disease with possible death .

[DrBrutyle109]

He’s just as phony as his brother. Thank god I don’t live in NY anymore

[Lindsyburnsy]

So true. You have to wonder why anybody that has known exposure to Covid 19 would travel to various cities and factories and not wear a mask.

[alfredpopcorn@gmail.com]

Fredo is steroid crazy and is useless fake news clone - family are a bunch of snake oil salesmen. I wouldn’t listen to one thing he would ever have to say .

[Lindsyburnsy]

My personal feeling is if we can actually get an APPROVED drug that will help us recover faster, if we do contract Covid19, then I would be a lot more comfortable going into a sit down restaurant, theatre, etc. Trying to rush through to approve a vaccine that hasn't gone through all of the scientific riggers doesn't sound like good medicine to me. Remember back in the 60s (you know you do) when thalidomide was given to pregnant women and their babies were born deformed? (I believe U.S. didn't approve it, thank God) We already have attorneys getting rich off of class action suits for drugs that we believed to be safe.

[Indydealmaker]

Chris, in my opinion, is one of the few left-leaning independent thinkers in favor of reopening the country now*. Yesterday on his radio show he said this (paraphrasing). "I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives."

*You're probably aware that feelings about reopening the country are, like most issues, going along party lines: In general, one side wants to wait longer to reopen, and the other side is ready to open now. *In general.*
It has nothing to do with "sides" and everything to do with critical thinking.

[shelley77]

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.


polls showing concern about reopening businesses - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=polls+showing+concern+about+reopening+bus inesses&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=84eafa760cc3441eb20e388a13fcb115&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdniHYN1DXZJ*fPg3Zw*BU5Iwa% 21VcsvdIcp2f1exbLGjjF8XVZAN9iPZWKp%21TbuvCi2E3xyDG h7oEvMI8VLtizlLt&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)
Please go to the link and check the actual poll, rather than just the headline. As usual, since this is the Washington Post the headline is deceptive and misleading and the question does not address health risk.

[theruizs]

The Key-Work would be "Opening Business Safely" I'm sure the 70% statistic would drop to 40%...

I’m sure that “I’m sure” is not statistically valid. :)

[Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com]

Chris Cuomo? The loud mouth!
The one who’s brother sentenced people in nursing homes to death! By executive order requiring nursing homes to take patients who tested positive for Chinese corona virus
Chis cuomo who yells about people should stay quarantined while he’s out and about!
The cris cuomo who rails against Hydroxychloroquine & zinc but takes quinine made from tree bark (which isn’t approved & has side effects) this was later synthesized in between what we know today is Hydroxychloroquine which is safe & taken by million daily
That Chris Cuomo or the one who threatens to beat people up In steroid rages?

Andrew Cuomo ordered to send Covid 19 patients to Nursing Homes instead of using the Hospital Ship that was docked and went without any patients, that caused massive infections which we now know were caused by his executive action. Of course any politician promises hope but deliver nothing, his brother Fredo (Chris) is only promoting opening since he got caught outside while the lockdown!!!!!!!

[stan the man]

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.


polls showing concern about reopening businesses - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=polls+showing+concern+about+reopening+bus inesses&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=84eafa760cc3441eb20e388a13fcb115&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdniHYN1DXZJ*fPg3Zw*BU5Iwa% 21VcsvdIcp2f1exbLGjjF8XVZAN9iPZWKp%21TbuvCi2E3xyDG h7oEvMI8VLtizlLt&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)

Do you selectively choose the poll you belive.

[stan the man]

Definition of an oxymoron; definition of an oxymoron - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=definition+of+an+oxymoron&form=EDGHPT&qs=DA&cvid=287c1106d3fb4dc1a6925ab8ff804933&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdngTK9qt7i91EzmYIutRmmBeEW LS091uNFv*wtSVovlTEQXfoW5mVKhk9yz61VyKRXz1i1mylYWP 0UKuonaYx7qD&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)

There are degrees of safety and there are different levels of risk according to age.

Differences in replying to safety by age

[stan the man]

Both Cuomo's .................................................. .....!!
Steve

you can add their father to that list...Chris want to be pres so bad

[La lamy]

Chris also mocked POTUS for taking hydroxychloroquine while he took a less safe derivative of the drug according to his wife's blog.

LOL

POTUS is taking hydroxychloroquine without being COVID positive. BIG DIFFERENCE.

[robertj1954]

The numbers from each state (which are public to those wanting to know them) should be the only road map to opening each state.

[Bay Kid]

Thank goodness for politicians. They know it all. They love the power.

[Joe C.]

POLLS?
What polls?
How many people here have been "polled"?

I love the term "Many Americans".....
How does the person doing the poll verify that the person is an American? I think that when many people hear that term, they think that they should follow the majority as indicated by the "poll".
Not me. I think for myself. I'm not always right, but I'm seldom wrong. And I'm certainly not in the majority.

[gatorbill1]

Chris Cuomo? The loud mouth!
The one who’s brother sentenced people in nursing homes to death! By executive order requiring nursing homes to take patients who tested positive for Chinese corona virus
Chis cuomo who yells about people should stay quarantined while he’s out and about!
The cris cuomo who rails against Hydroxychloroquine & zinc but takes quinine made from tree bark (which isn’t approved & has side effects) this was later synthesized in between what we know today is Hydroxychloroquine which is safe & taken by million daily
That Chris Cuomo or the one who threatens to beat people up In steroid rages?

You might try MSNBC if you do not like Chris??

[LiverpoolWalrus]

It has nothing to do with "sides" and everything to do with critical thinking.

Bingo! That's exactly what I try to tell my friends on both sides who always walk in lock step with the party line. Critical thinking and independent thinking seem to have given way to a blind loyalty to one's respective membership in a political party.

[Nucky]

POLLS?
What polls?
How many people here have been "polled"?

I love the term "Many Americans".....
How does the person doing the poll verify that the person is an American? I think that when many people hear that term, they think that they should follow the majority as indicated by the "poll".
Not me. I think for myself. I'm not always right, but I'm seldom wrong. And I'm certainly not in the majority.

In a way, everyone has been polled.

The term Many Americans is as bad as hearing the term FOLKS.

Either one means grab your toes and get ready for a big lie coming your way. I posted early in the Virus Afternoon Television Drama Fake Information Shows that Andrew Cuomo was changing my mind about him. To see a politician fight the way he did for his people was refreshing. It was sort of what I remember about his Dad, Mario who was loved by many in my neighborhood when I was very young. I don't know for a fact that he was a great man but my memory says he was. (Subject to Correction.)

We better all come together quickly or The Golden Goose is Going to Croak. That would be our Country.

What has happened in N.Y. is a Crime. People have had enough. I feel so sorry for those who suffer while we worry about Pool Opening's and if the new Hole In One's Count.

The Cuomo's could have won me over but in the end, both failed. I hope they do better immediately. Fingers Crossed.

[GoodLife]

POTUS is taking hydroxychloroquine without being COVID positive. BIG DIFFERENCE.

Cuomo quote "The President knows that hydroxychloroquine is not supported by the science"

Why did you take it then Chris? POTUS was prescribed the drug by his Doctor. You on the other hand, took it because your wife follows the teachings of some homeopathic guru.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Hey Moderator: Could you please delete the personal comments about the Cuomo family...or delete this thread altogether? Thanks.

The point of the thread is that a left-leaning individual is breaking from his ranks and courageously calling for the reopening of the country. Forget Chris Cuomo. It could be anyone on the left. This is not about Chris or his family personally.

It's about having the courage to break free of always marching in lockstep with one's political party rather than thinking critically and independently as someone pointed out.

It was also aimed at discussing the pros and cons of continuing to lockdown to protect a relatively small segment of the population at the expense of the economy and people's livelihoods.

Me, I'm "high risk" myself because I'm over 60 and have a history of asthma. But I'm not so selfish as to demand the country stay at a standstill just to protect me. I can follow the guidelines and protect myself even with a reopened economy. And I can choose to continue to stay home with or without a reopened economy. The idea of wanting the world to stop just to protect me does not appeal to me in the least.

And worse case scenario, if I follow the guidelines and die from the slight chance of getting Covid-19 anyway, oh well, we all have to go sometime. My family and friends are going to have to get used to the idea of me not being around at some point anyway. At least my conscience will be clear that I didn't ask the world to stop for me and cause people to lose their jobs and businesses.

I take a risk getting behind the wheel of a car. I risk being hospitalized or dying by taking over the counter medications as directed*. I'm willing to take a risk with this virus if it means getting our freedom back.



*5 Over-the-Counter Drugs That Can Kill You • High Times (https://hightimes.com/health/science/5-over-the-counter-drugs-that-can-kill-you/)

[Fenster]

That's odd :confused:, just last week he was calling people stupid for just walking on the beach.....

Cuomo is a moron. He proves it all the time. Did you see Fredo when he appeared on brother Andy’s daily snooze fest? He said “you would kick me when I’m down” and other childish things.

Andrew is a huge failure. New York leads the world in CV deaths. Too much blather and not enough actual work. He ran the state in the red before the virus.

[justjim]

Fredo’s brother killed off a lot of the elderly in NY. I guess they were expendable. Cleaned out the nursing homes.

Wow! Really... seemed to me the “brother” was trying his best to do just the opposite. I don’t believe anybody wanted to kill off the elderly, rather the coronavirus was responsible for a lot of elderly deaths.

[justjim]

A lot of unnecessary political comments from posters will soon close this Thread.

[meridian5850]

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.


polls showing concern about reopening businesses - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=polls+showing+concern+about+reopening+bus inesses&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=84eafa760cc3441eb20e388a13fcb115&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdniHYN1DXZJ*fPg3Zw*BU5Iwa% 21VcsvdIcp2f1exbLGjjF8XVZAN9iPZWKp%21TbuvCi2E3xyDG h7oEvMI8VLtizlLt&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)

In 2016, valid polls, indicated Hillary Clinton would win the election. So much for the value of polls.

[amexsbow]

POLLS, As my statistics prof once said "Tell me what you want to prove and I will get you the statistics to prove it."

All polls should be taken with a grain of salt. The polls are never shown with the questions asked, the data on the persons polled, etc.

One thing is certain. We are born, we live, we die. Just a matter of time. The middle part is where we should concentrate our energies. You can live in a cell cut off from human interaction, or risk your life and LIVE. The choice is yours. I prefer to live, whether it is for a day or for years. I find it more satisfying than cowering in my room. That is not living. That is existing. Too many people are succumbing to the siren song of the all powerful government. How is that working for the Chinese, Russian, and Venezuelan people. If people want to climb a mountain with their bare hands and risk their life, does the government stop them? Do we stop people from jumping out of airplanes? Walking a tightrope between skyscrapers?
Let's be real people, stop trying to run other peoples lives. Just remember that all the diseases known to man are still around. Do you want to worry about that? Take all the precautions you want for your own health and safety. You worry about you. I will worry about me.

[LSTOWELL]

Only problem with Chis is he was caught 30 miles from his home on a lot he owns while he was still under quarantine as a positive covid 19 patient.

Then CNN staged a live "emergence" from his basement a few days.

At least he is trying to redeem himself with this latest open up opinion

If you're quarantined you can still get in your own car and go to your own vacant lot!!!!!!!¡¡!!!!!!

[amexsbow]

if you're quarantined you can still get in your own car and go to your own vacant lot!!!!!!!¡¡!!!!!!
what is your definition of quarantine?

[Aloha1]

If you're quarantined you can still get in your own car and go to your own vacant lot!!!!!!!¡¡!!!!!!

Uh, no. Quarantined means just that. Stay in your home and do not go out until cleared.

[ColdNoMore]

If you're quarantined you can still get in your own car and go to your own vacant lot!!!!!!!¡¡!!!!!!

Exactly.

The whole purpose of being quarantined is to ensure...that you do not interact with others.

Staying in your own vehicle and not interacting with anyone else, completely fits with both the letter and the spirit...of quarantining.

Common sense says that's there other bias' and agenda's going on...trying to make a big deal of something this trivial,

[Lottoguy]

I say on June 1st open up the country and let the people practice everything we have been taught to be safe. If you want to stay home because of your age, health, etc that is very understandable. The people who want to go out and mingle at their own peril with all the rest then that is the path they have chosen.

[amexsbow]

Exactly.

The whole purpose of being quarantined is to ensure...that you do not interact with others.

Staying in your own vehicle and not interacting with anyone else, completely fits with both the letter and the spirit...of quarantining.

Common sense says that's there other bias' and agenda's going on...trying to make a big deal of something this trivial,

I believe the problem was, HE INTERACTED WITH A STRANGER.

[New Englander]

POTUS is taking hydroxychloroquine without being COVID positive. BIG DIFFERENCE.

I took hydroxychloroquine for two years and didn't have any side effects.

[ColdNoMore]

I believe the problem was, HE INTERACTED WITH A STRANGER.

I recall that being in his own yard...not traveling in his automobile.

[GoodLife]

If you're quarantined you can still get in your own car and go to your own vacant lot!!!!!!!¡¡!!!!!!

According to his wife's blog, he still had a fever on the day of altercation with a biker at the lot he owned.

CDC guidelines:

Persons with COVID-19 who have symptoms and were directed to care for themselves at home may discontinue isolation under the following conditions:
At least 3 days (72 hours) have passed since recovery defined as resolution of fever

Besides, traveling with two women and 3 kids to a lot you own 30 miles from home would definitely be called non essential travel even if you had no symptoms.

[Scorpyo]

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.


polls showing concern about reopening businesses - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=polls+showing+concern+about+reopening+bus inesses&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=84eafa760cc3441eb20e388a13fcb115&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdniHYN1DXZJ*fPg3Zw*BU5Iwa% 21VcsvdIcp2f1exbLGjjF8XVZAN9iPZWKp%21TbuvCi2E3xyDG h7oEvMI8VLtizlLt&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)
I don't know why you state facts. Do you really think the opposing population cares about facts? They only believe what's in it for them. It's like I use to say, "Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes"?

[justjim]

Thank goodness for politicians. They know it all. They love the power.

“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power”. Abraham Lincoln

[Scorpyo]

Fredo’s brother killed off a lot of the elderly in NY. I guess they were expendable. Cleaned out the nursing homes.
Obviously you are not listening to Cuomo lately. He now blames those deaths on the president. I'm sure at least 50% of the population will stand behind that BS. He should have finished that statement with - who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes.

[Scorpyo]

“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power”. Abraham Lincoln
If Abe was alive today and saw our wonderful political system he would have probably updated that statement to say "lack of character".

[Marvic 1]

I’m sure that “I’m sure” is not statistically valid. :)

In this situation To Me it's more valid then what the Fake Media put out for me to believe.. :ho:

[sloanst]

If one is concerned about the reopening, then stay at home. Its simple, each individual can make their own decision. The only ones that can't are dependent on others for their care. In that case, the most extreme action is probably the best decision.

[Marvic 1]

I recall that being in his own yard...not traveling in his automobile.

He was in another town where he has a new home being built, maybe that's the yard your talking about that still does not have any grass growing on it....

[Quixote]

Done. Hospitals nor capacity . Done.
Ventilators done
Open up and stay home if you feel safer . not done . but common sense
Horrible disease with possible death .

For those who are constitutionally incapable of viewing absolutely anything in the universe without fabricating a political context around it, this post is not for you.

For everyone else, apply the ‘KISS Principle’ (that is, ‘Keep It Simple...’). Be as prepared as we can be, allow the economy to reopen—and then people who know their health factors, if any, and the risks can decide for themselves—go out or continue to remain at home. It couldn’t be much simpler....

[GoodLife]

Exactly.

The whole purpose of being quarantined is to ensure...that you do not interact with others.

Staying in your own vehicle and not interacting with anyone else, completely fits with both the letter and the spirit...of quarantining.

Common sense says that's there other bias' and agenda's going on...trying to make a big deal of something this trivial,

I recall that being in his own yard...not traveling in his automobile.

See Post #51

He traveled from his home to a lot 30 miles away, with his wife, another woman, and three kids. They didn't walk there. His wife's blog states he had a fever that day. So he blew off CDC quarantine rules in several ways. His wife and one of his kids have tested positive for covid 19.

This is trivial?

It's so obvious you only get news from outfits like CNN. For all you know, from their reporting, Chris Cuomo emerged from his heroic basement quarantine on live TV. There is a police report the biker filed after altercation with Chris. His wife's blog details his sickeness, fever, treatments etc. And the biker is a democrat who voted for Governor Cuomo. CDC quarantine guidelines are very clear for those who are infected.

[EviesGP]

And there are many other examples of "Quarantine for thee, NOT for me!" NYC Mayor, Chicago Mayor, DC VIPs, etc. Fredo got caught, period! And, as far as the poll, many people are also under the impression that we can keep everything shut down, and they'll just sit and collect money from the govt. Ask them the same question(s), and state that the funds are ending? Which is what's going to happen. I'll bet you'll get a different response?!

[rrb48310]

I say on June 1st open up the country and let the people practice everything we have been taught to be safe. If you want to stay home because of your age, health, etc that is very understandable. The people who want to go out and mingle at their own peril with all the rest then that is the path they have chosen.

Yes but, how about following the opening up guidelines set buy the guy at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. following numbers, safely and slowly with testing testing testing to find “hotspots” then track & isolate. POTUS needs to follow his own advice, not like someone said, “do as I say not as I do” (lead by example). He needs to condemn confederate flag waving gun toting protesters (that has NOTHING to do with what’s going on).

OPEN IT UP, but put the stars & bars and guns away for the KKK meetings.

I have a need for some Happy Hour

[ColdNoMore]

See Post #51

He traveled from his home to a lot 30 miles away, with his wife, another woman, and three kids. They didn't walk there. His wife's blog states he had a fever that day. So he blew off CDC quarantine rules in several ways. His wife and one of his kids have tested positive for covid 19.

This is trivial?

It's so obvious you only get news from outfits like CNN. For all you know, from their reporting, Chris Cuomo emerged from his heroic basement quarantine on live TV. There is a police report the biker filed after altercation with Chris. His wife's blog details his sickeness, fever, treatments etc. And the biker is a democrat who voted for Governor Cuomo. CDC quarantine guidelines are very clear for those who are infected.

I get my information from a plethora of sources, then put weight to them based on further research...and their overall objectivity.

Second to last on my list, is what basically amounts to 'State News' (last being the extreme fringes/conspiracy driven outlets)...like any dictatorship's (or wannabe dictators) try to establish.

The success in my professional life, was in a large part based on finding as many subordinates smarter than myself and then encouraging (and rewarding) them to make a case...that might be contrary to my initial viewpoint.

When responsible for hundreds of subordinates, the safety of customers and around $100M yearly of expense & capital budgets...facts/integrity/honesty/ethics mattered.

It also has never even occurred to me to demand absolute fealty, or to refuse (at every level) to ever admit making a mistake...or the chance of being seen as less than perfect. :ohdear:

That would take such a massive insecurity, that for me personally...is impossible to even fathom. :oops:

History is replete with examples of what happens when surrounding oneself with only "yes people" and then expending an enormous amount of effort trying to discredit those who actually are interested in/discover facts and the truth...that might be embarrassing or are contrary to the obedient, fanatical herd.

Just think of what could be accomplished, if even half of the effort now currently spent constantly trying to avoid personal responsibility and always looking to blame others...and put it towards solving the ever-increasing gaping maw between the have's and have nots. :ho:

[GoodLife]

I get my information from a plethora of sources, then put weight to them based on further research...and their overall objectivity.

Second to last on my list, is what basically amounts to 'State News' (last being the extreme fringes/conspiracy driven outlets)...like any dictatorship's (or wannabe dictators) try to establish.

The success in my professional life, was in a large part based on finding as many subordinates smarter than myself and then encouraging (and rewarding) them to make a case...that might be contrary to my initial viewpoint.

When responsible for hundreds of subordinates, the safety of customers and around $100M yearly of expense & capital budgets...facts/integrity/honesty/ethics mattered.

It also has never even occurred to me to demand absolute fealty, or to refuse (at every level) to ever admit making a mistake...or the chance of being seen as less than perfect. :ohdear:

That would take such a massive insecurity, that for me personally...is impossible to even fathom. :oops:

History is replete with examples of what happens when surrounding oneself with only "yes people" and then expending an enormous amount of effort trying to discredit those who actually are interested in/discover facts and the truth...that might be embarrassing or are contrary to the obedient, fanatical herd.

Just think of what could be accomplished, if even half of the effort now currently spent constantly trying to avoid personal responsibility and always looking to blame others...and put it towards solving the ever-increasing gaping maw between the have's and have nots. :ho:

What's all that have to do with the fact that Chris Cuomo, on a day he still had symptoms, violated CDC guidelines by driving 30 miles with two women and three kids to visit a lot he owns?

As far as I know, CNN did not report this story, but they did stage Chris emerging from quarantine on live tv a few days later.

[LiverpoolWalrus]

as far as the poll, many people are also under the impression that we can keep everything shut down, and they'll just sit and collect money from the govt. Ask them the same question(s), and state that the funds are ending? Which is what's going to happen. I'll bet you'll get a different response?!

Thank you. I think this is key. Numbers in those "polls" may be inflated because some people want to stay home and collect unemployment that in some cases is more than they were earning on the job.

[ColdNoMore]

..."violated CDC guidelines"...

First of all, do you understand the definition of..."guidelines?" :oops:


Secondly, do you really even want to go there? :1rotfl:


And lastly, my post was in response to the portion I highlighted/bolded....in your false assumption.


You're welcome. :ho:

[New Englander]

What's all that have to do with the fact that Chris Cuomo, on a day he still had symptoms, violated CDC guidelines by driving 30 miles with two women and three kids to visit a lot he owns?

As far as I know, CNN did not report this story, but they did stage Chris emerging from quarantine on live tv a few days later.


That's why it's called fake news. :popcorn:

[GoodLife]

First of all, do you understand the definition of..."guidelines?" :oops:


Secondly, do you really even want to go there? :1rotfl:


And lastly, my post was in response to the portion I highlighted/bolded....in your false assumption.


You're welcome. :ho:


You are forgetting your earlier comments in this thread, in which you appeared to be unaware of the facts.

Exactly.

The whole purpose of being quarantined is to ensure...that you do not interact with others.

Staying in your own vehicle and not interacting with anyone else, completely fits with both the letter and the spirit...of quarantining

I recall that being in his own yard...not traveling in his automobile.

So Cuomo traveled in a car with his wife, another woman, and three kids while still running a fever, a trip which probably took an hour each way. The yard wasn't at his home, it was a lot where he has another house under construction. They definitely traveled in a car, and he definitely "interacted with others" and most certainly did not abide by "both the letter and spirit of quarantining"

Care to try again?

[Leadbone1]

That is not correct. Valid polls show that 70% of the U.S. population are from somewhat concerned to very concerned about the health risk to opening business as usual. That is my opinion and I will link.


polls showing concern about reopening businesses - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=polls+showing+concern+about+reopening+bus inesses&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=84eafa760cc3441eb20e388a13fcb115&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdniHYN1DXZJ*fPg3Zw*BU5Iwa% 21VcsvdIcp2f1exbLGjjF8XVZAN9iPZWKp%21TbuvCi2E3xyDG h7oEvMI8VLtizlLt&plvar=0&PC=DCTS)

That’s a joke, polls are only another means of lying to the American public by the way they are structured. They are a complete joke and if you believe them that your problem.

[amexsbow]

I recall that being in his own yard...not traveling in his automobile.

He traveled from his RESIDENCE to a lot he was building a new home. Perhaps you got your information from MSM which is often wrong.

[ColdNoMore]

He traveled from his RESIDENCE to a lot he was building a new home. Perhaps you got your information from MSM which is often wrong.

Okidokie, I stand corrected. :ho:

Unlike others, like myself, who are adored and have gaggles of folks hanging on each word I say or write...at least I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. :D

[sallybowron]

Chris, in my opinion, is one of the few left-leaning independent thinkers in favor of reopening the country now*. Yesterday on his radio show he said this (paraphrasing).
*You're probably aware that feelings about reopening the country are, like most issues, going along party lines: In general, one side wants to wait longer to reopen, and the other side is ready to open now. *In general.*

""I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives." It will not be very long life is she cannot get food, drink and banking. This seems very self-centered to me.:duck: :boom:

[LiverpoolWalrus]

""I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives." It will not be very long life is she cannot get food, drink and banking. This seems very self-centered to me.:duck: :boom:

Grandma can do everything online. Or if she needs to venture out, the CDC guidelines that she follows should keep her safe. That's what they're for. And she can avoid people that are ignoring the guidelines.

I think the "self-centered" aspect is the other way around, in my opinion. As I said:

Me, I'm "high risk" myself because I'm over 60 and have a history of asthma. But I'm not so selfish as to demand the country stay at a standstill just to protect me. I can follow the guidelines and protect myself even with a reopened economy. And I can choose to continue to stay home with or without a reopened economy. The idea of wanting the world to stop just to protect me does not appeal to me in the least.

And worse case scenario, if I follow the guidelines and die from the slight chance of getting Covid-19 anyway, oh well, we all have to go sometime. My family and friends are going to have to get used to the idea of me not being around at some point anyway. At least my conscience will be clear that I didn't ask the world to stop for me and cause people to lose their jobs and businesses.

I take a risk getting behind the wheel of a car. I risk being hospitalized or dying by taking over the counter medications as directed. I'm willing to take a risk with this virus if it means getting our freedom back.

[Velvet]

""I'm not staying home for your grandmother. She can continue to stay home if she’s high risk, but the rest of us need to get on with our lives." It will not be very long life is she cannot get food, drink and banking. This seems very self-centered to me.:duck: :boom:

You weren’t staying at home for grandmother. You were staying at home for yourself. You (at whatever age) can die from this virus too.

That being said, we do need the economy to open, smartly with monitoring. We need our future way of life. Not to go back to what it was, backwards is not the direction we want to go. But forwards. I am excited to see how we’re going to do that, and how much better than before.

[72lions]

Andrew Cuomo ordered to send Covid 19 patients to Nursing Homes instead of using the Hospital Ship that was docked and went without any patients, that caused massive infections which we now know were caused by his executive action. Of course any politician promises hope but deliver nothing, his brother Fredo (Chris) is only promoting opening since he got caught outside while the lockdown!!!!!!!

You do know the ship came to NYC to take non COVID-19 patients out of hospitals to free up COVID resources, right??

[GoodLife]

You do know the ship came to NYC to take non COVID-19 patients out of hospitals to free up COVID resources, right??

one week after the hospital ship docked in NYC

@NYGovCuomo


#BREAKING: I spoke to the president and he has agreed to our request to treat #COVID patients on the USNS Comfort.

This means 1,000 additional beds staffed by federal personnel.

This will provide much-needed relief to our over stressed hospital systems
5:29 PM · Apr 6, 2020

[mtlee024]

The numbers from each state (which are public to those wanting to know them) should be the only road map to opening each state.

This would be a lot more valid if it showed deaths related to flue or Covid 19.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Why is an illness a left or right thing anyway? I don't ever remember H1Ni or Ebola being a right or left issue.