It's a Golf Course ... Not a Park

[Bosoxfan]

We live on the 6th hole of the Longleaf executive golf course and we've been noticing lots of folks using the 5th and 6th holes as their personal fitness trail .Bikes, roller blades, runners ,dog walkers you name it they're doing it after the golfers have gone home. Why is this necessary . There are so many trails down here I don't see the need to treat the golf course like this. Al'so after dark we've been seeing people taking their golf carts on a tour disrupting the privacy I bought when I built my house. I'm thinking of walking around my lanai naked after dark that should keep them away:a20:

[vintageogauge]

When you bought on a golf course you gave up your privacy along with peace and quiet, I lived on one for 13 years and never again. I now live on a pond, quiet, peaceful, and private.

[Stu from NYC]

Unless they are very noisy do not see what the big deal is

[Bosoxfan]

I don't mind golfers during operating hours but after hours people are trespassing to disrupt my privacy

[Bosoxfan]

Without people on the course I could walk around naked in my backyard if I wanted to. If I had a pool I could skinny dip. Not saying I would but my privacy has been compromised

[thomp679]

You seem to have a fetish about walking around naked. Your next door neighbor might not like having to see you. Oh well, life goes on.

[Bosoxfan]

You seem to have a fetish about walking around naked. Your next door neighbor might not like having to see you. Oh well, life goes on.

No just using it as an example. My neighbors can't see my backyard or into my lanai.

[JimJohnson]

What a great idea, after hours, use the golf courses for your personal enjoyment. You pay for it, so if it rings your bell, use it. Great place for big dogs to stretch their legs.

[MarkGoldberg]

What a great idea, after hours, use the golf courses for your personal enjoyment. You pay for it, so if it rings your bell, use it. Great place for big dogs to stretch their legs.

Actually, the golf courses are private property which is why you aren’t allowed to be on them or play golf after hours (although many do). I worked at a golf course here and that’s how I know the rule. Don’t shoot the messenger.

[Rwirish]

It is a golf course and not a playground. It is also not permitted. They need to be thrown off.

[Two Bills]

It is a golf course and not a playground. It is also not permitted. They need to be thrown off.

....and there's the problem.
By Whom?

[woderfulwendy1]

Great idea using the golf course path after hours. Will start using them. If you want to walk around naked we won't look.

[photo1902]

....and there's the problem.
By Whom?

It starts with a call to Community Watch

[Skunky1]

Where are the trolls when you need them?

[DecaturFargo]

Yesterday, there were kids fishing on one of the executive courses. The Ambassador told them it was private property and told them they had to leave. They said that another ambassador told them they could stay. This Ambassador told them to talk to the pro, but today they were to get off the property.

[Skunky1]

Great idea, call community watch! They will come around and watch.

[C4Boston]

We live on the 6th hole of the Longleaf executive golf course and we've been noticing lots of folks using the 5th and 6th holes as their personal fitness trail .Bikes, roller blades, runners ,dog walkers you name it they're doing it after the golfers have gone home. Why is this necessary . There are so many trails down here I don't see the need to treat the golf course like this. Al'so after dark we've been seeing people taking their golf carts on a tour disrupting the privacy I bought when I built my house. I'm thinking of walking around my lanai naked after dark that should keep them away:a20:

I would go with the naked idea but trolls may turn you in for non conforming ornament. :coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

[arbajeda]

Talk to the golf ambassador during the day and Community Watch after hours.

[MandoMan]

You seem to have a fetish about walking around naked. Your next door neighbor might not like having to see you. Oh well, life goes on.

Actually, being nude in your yard is perfectly legal in Florida as long as it’s not for lewd and lascivious purposes, and from what you say, I’m guessing you do not find the older human body lewd or lascivious. However, if you go out of your way to watch, such as using binoculars or taking photos or peeking over a courtyard fence, you could break the Peeping Tom law.

Do you remember the story of David and Bathsheba in the Bible? She was within her rights to bathe naked on her flat roof, but he was not within his rights to invite her over for dinner, seduce her, get her pregnant, have her husband killed, then make her son Solomon king. And that skinny-dipping nudist Bathsheba was an ancestor of Jesus!

[Gmb727]

Too funny. I swear, some people must just live their whole life dreaming about things to complain about. Pretty sad.

[Villagesgal]

Talk to the golf ambassador during the day and Community Watch after hours.

We live on a championship course. This works. We haven't had a problem in years. No one is allowed on the course when it's closed. A lot of people don't know that but once they are told, they stop. Good luck.

[MandoMan]

Actually, the golf courses are private property which is why you aren’t allowed to be on them or play golf after hours (although many do). I worked at a golf course here and that’s how I know the rule. Don’t shoot the messenger.

I’ve heard that argument made, but can you provide documentary evidence that each of those golf courses is privately owned by corporations not affiliated with The Villages and that not a penny of our fees goes in any way to maintain those courses? Running a golf course as nice as the upper tier courses at The Villages is very expensive, and it’s hard to believe that the courses, pools, clubhouses, etc. could be maintained with the very modest fees people pay for membership and greens fees.

The argument about liability is problematic, given that the alternative for many people is walking on the streets or on paths shared with golf carts and bicycles. If golfers aren’t golfing, I think walking on cart paths would be safer. I would agree that people should staff off the golf courses during playing hours if they are not playing, however. THAT would be potentially dangerous. Of course, I live on a “private” course and could get hit by a ball just sitting in my back yard.

[Girlcopper]

We live on the 6th hole of the Longleaf executive golf course and we've been noticing lots of folks using the 5th and 6th holes as their personal fitness trail .Bikes, roller blades, runners ,dog walkers you name it they're doing it after the golfers have gone home. Why is this necessary . There are so many trails down here I don't see the need to treat the golf course like this. Al'so after dark we've been seeing people taking their golf carts on a tour disrupting the privacy I bought when I built my house. I'm thinking of walking around my lanai naked after dark that should keep them away:a20:
You wanted a golf course view so it comes with issues. I love the view. Enjoy seeing the golfers and couldnt care less if other people are out there. Wanna go naked? Have at it! Enjoy the day. :):)

[toeser]

We live on the 6th hole of the Longleaf executive golf course and we've been noticing lots of folks using the 5th and 6th holes as their personal fitness trail .Bikes, roller blades, runners ,dog walkers you name it they're doing it after the golfers have gone home. Why is this necessary . There are so many trails down here I don't see the need to treat the golf course like this. Al'so after dark we've been seeing people taking their golf carts on a tour disrupting the privacy I bought when I built my house. I'm thinking of walking around my lanai naked after dark that should keep them away:a20:

99% of the trails, except for the new south areas, are full of golf carts. People should be able to use golf course trails after the course is closed. Don't be such a grouch.

[stan the man]

We live on the 6th hole of the Longleaf executive golf course and we've been noticing lots of folks using the 5th and 6th holes as their personal fitness trail .Bikes, roller blades, runners ,dog walkers you name it they're doing it after the golfers have gone home. Why is this necessary . There are so many trails down here I don't see the need to treat the golf course like this. Al'so after dark we've been seeing people taking their golf carts on a tour disrupting the privacy I bought when I built my house. I'm thinking of walking around my lanai naked after dark that should keep them away:a20:

Please come to our neighborhood pool (naked) --pool to crowded

[Fisherman]

I lived on a golf course here for over nine years. Loved my view and it was for many years peaceful and quiet.I loved watching the golfers tee off and putt. However, it is very difficult to maintain the dirt, pollen, mold, summer kitchen, pool etc. The sun eventually rots the screens, the cool deck needs to be redone....on and on! That being said, it, too became a park after hours. Walkers, joggers, bikers and a dog park. People socializing, setting off fire crackers on the holidays and smoking. Not sure who has the authority after hours, but was told, no one was allowed on the course when closed. I also was on a pond and that was another problem. Water moccasins and rats.
People walking down there to fish???? I moved last year, and absolutely love being away from all of that. A nice clean enclosed lanai that can open up for fresh air. The positive was.... over nine years, I made a nice nest egg of $$$$ when I sold !!! These activities would never be allowed in most golf course communities. Thousands of dollars are spent to maintain these areas for golfing purposes. We pay trail fees to have access to the golf course for play. Should we start charging a fee to everyone for access to the golf courses????

[stan the man]

Where are the trolls when you need them?

Meeting every second Tuesday at ..........

[Villagesgal]

99% of the trails, except for the new south areas, are full of golf carts. People should be able to use golf course trails after the course is closed. Don't be such a grouch.

you are the grouch not wanting to follow the rules. Golf courses are not public parks. Golfers are allowed when signed in and golfing, walkers are allowed when signed in and golfing.
When courses are closed, they are closed to everyone, period.

[Bethwill]

Last I heard it was absolutely forbidden to be on the course after hours. Maybe that's just Championship courses. I live 4 houses away from one and my neighbors who live on the course have been kicked off.

[raney3099]

If your privacy is that important, then maybe living in a community with lots of houses and people was not such a smart move. Just saying

[stan the man]

you are the grouch not wanting to follow the rules. Golf courses are not public parks. Golfers are allowed when signed in and golfing, walkers are allowed when signed in and golfing.
When courses are closed, they are closed to everyone, period.

If I have the last tee time out that day. I play very slowly ( take 42 practice swings at least 10 min to line up putts) it could be well after dark when I finish up

[timinthevillages]

I live on a golf course and don't mind walkers/bikers after hours. But there should be jail time for those that do it on the street in the front of my house! Oh wait a minute that could be the same thing. Never mind.

[photo1902]

99% of the trails, except for the new south areas, are full of golf carts. People should be able to use golf course trails after the course is closed. Don't be such a grouch.

So by that logic, everyone should be able to use the rec centers, pools, pickle ball and tennis courts when they’re closed?

[pooderpask]

The golf course and it paths are not you property but everyones. You have no control over it. Privacy back up to a wall.

[Mumbles]

Actually, being nude in your yard is perfectly legal in Florida as long as it’s not for lewd and lascivious purposes, and from what you say, I’m gue

Would you be so kind as to find something in FL government docs that support your statement? This could easily become a Nudist colony, if what you say is true. IMHO

[LSTOWELL]

We live on the 6th hole of the Longleaf executive golf course and we've been noticing lots of folks using the 5th and 6th holes as their personal fitness trail .Bikes, roller blades, runners ,dog walkers you name it they're doing it after the golfers have gone home. Why is this necessary . There are so many trails down here I don't see the need to treat the golf course like this. Al'so after dark we've been seeing people taking their golf carts on a tour disrupting the privacy I bought when I built my house. I'm thinking of walking around my lanai naked after dark that should keep them away:a20:

We are on Cane Gardens and we see people walking their dogs on and off leash on the course..on the tee boxes..driving golf carts and bikes and walking even after dark on the cart paths..it is in total violation of golf course and village rules..this is not your playground nor your dogs potty spot..the country clubs spend a lot of time getting them to look great and then there is so much disrespect for others properties..it would be like me walking your dog behind your home at night with a flashlight...stay off the courses

[LSTOWELL]

If I have the last tee time out that day. I play very slowly ( take 42 practice swings at least 10 min to line up putts) it could be well after dark when I finish up
No problem if you're golfing!?!

[detch]

I didn't realize that is your private path. Perhaps you should ask "THE AUTHORITIES" to put up a sign alerting people of THE VILLAGES it is a golf cart path to be used only during daylight hours. That ought to do the trick, don't you think?

[photo1902]

I didn't realize that is your private path. Perhaps you should ask "THE AUTHORITIES" to put up a sign alerting people of THE VILLAGES it is a golf cart path to be used only during daylight hours. That ought to do the trick, don't you think?

It is a private path, which is closed after hours, and to non-golfers. I don’t understand how difficult it is for people to comprehend that fact.

[detch]

I can comprehend it, but can you enforce it? I'd love to hear your plan for that, tell me how it works out, ok?

[meridian5850]

There have been many times we have gone to an executive course after the last tee time and before the staff has left. Enough daylight left to get 3-4 holes in. Every time we have been given permission by an Ambassador.

[deebrock]

Wow what a world. I agree they probably should not be there. But to "THROW" them off. If you haven't asked why don't you call the villages and see who would handle this. Then they can ask them/tell them they cannot be there. No violence. now if you have asked and no one has said it is wrong then you are screwed.

[EviesGP]

The Executive courses are owned/governed by the District. The Champ courses are owned by the Villages(i.e. family), and are considered private property. If after hours play is allowed, so be it, and they can play on. As for the other recreational activities, they're not allowed. Both courses are maintained(watered, groomed, etc) for golfing activity and conditions. That's why you see signs posted on golf cart trails entering courses/holes, that read "golfing traffic only". If people are seen on Exec courses(not golfing), you call Community Watch(CW). For Championship courses, you can call CW, or SCSO. CW will ask them to leave, and if they refuse, they'll call Sumter Co Sheriff's Office, and they will be issued Trespassing Notices.

[merrymini]

Golf courses are private and not to be used after hours or for anything but golf. Call community watch and take pictures and send them to the course manager. I bought on a golf course, not a gym or a dog park. The snarky comments are so stupid. This place has rules to protect the community. If you do not like rules, do not live here! And what golf course would allow people on it with skateboards, dogs, etc? None!

[Holpat39]

Most all of the post refer to courses being private and for golf only. True but what harm does a walker, biker, or jogger do to the course, They are on the golf cart path. When you buy on a golf course you give up some of your privacy.

[Jtcoggin@bellsouth.net]

Welcome to The Villages where living on a golf course means losing your privacy. Life is tough.

[Joe C.]

Walk around naked ?? No problem …..just keep your putter on the green.

[CharlesNT]

Is there a rule that says golf courses are restricted to golfers only? If there is you are right and the Villages needs to address this. If not, you need to get used to it. As noted, in another reply, I also lived on a golf course for many years, never again. Great views but you give up a lot of privacy!

[Warren]

We live on the 6th hole of the Longleaf executive golf course and we've been noticing lots of folks using the 5th and 6th holes as their personal fitness trail .Bikes, roller blades, runners ,dog walkers you name it they're doing it after the golfers have gone home. Why is this necessary . There are so many trails down here I don't see the need to treat the golf course like this. Al'so after dark we've been seeing people taking their golf carts on a tour disrupting the privacy I bought when I built my house. I'm thinking of walking around my lanai naked after dark that should keep them away:a20:

It is my understanding that the executive golf courses are "district" owned and the championship courses are privately owned. If I am right, then the executive courses are publicly owned and should be enjoyed by all. With the size of most lots here in TV, you did not buy privacy anywhere in The Villages, nor did you buy any more than a fraction of an undivided interest in the whole of all of the golf courses. My house backs up to Morse Blvd. I don't ask the multi modal path be closed when the golf courses close nor do i ask that Morse Blvd. be closed after 9:30 PM. I enjoy the activity displayed here in The Villages. As long as the residents behave in a respectful / responsible manor they should be able to enjoy the golf course path, too.
"They say", most people buy, on average, buy three houses during their time in The Villages.

[polaris]

From the Villages Good Golf Guide:

• Golf courses are restricted to golfing traffic only.
• Please refrain from riding, biking, fishing, walking or engaging in other recreational activities on the courses.
• Pets are not permitted on golf courses or practice facilities at any time.


https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/goodgolfguide.pdf

[timinthevillages]

Been here only 4 years so I'm somewhat new, so if I'm wrong please let me know. Basically aren't there only three type of home here? 1. Privacy or staring at a wall 10 feet from your back door. 2. Staring at your neighbor out your back door. 3. View or staring at people participating in some activity.

[rlcooper70]

Saw you are from Worcester Mass ... my family is from there ... May Street and June Street area.

At this point in time I think we should give people a break about walking and riding on the golf courses since they are the prettiest parts of The Villages. We live on Jacaranda and see the same thing ... and celebrate that so many are feeling so good about walking and riding. Hope you can see that part as well.

All the best ....

[skyking]

I live on a course in The Villages and have a house on a Country Club up north. I have no problem with people walking or running on the cart paths.

[timinthevillages]

99% of the trails, except for the new south areas, are full of golf carts. People should be able to use golf course trails after the course is closed. Don't be such a grouch.
Definition of a grouch is someone that would yell at the kids because they're playing on their grass. Not sure what the definition is of yelling at someone playing on someone's else's grass.

[JoeinFL]

I think these posts are going to drive up the property value of my very private lake view home in Fenney. :)

[2Jays]

I agree! Unless they are noisy or disruptive what is the problem?

[Pricey]

Just a quick point of clarification - the son of the adultery between king David and Bathsheba died. Their future son, Solomon, ascended to the throne.

[Donb0975]

Country clubs private property owned by developer, Executive courses owned by home owners. There are dog parks for big dogs and little dogs to stretch their legs.

[fdpaq0580]

Most all of the post refer to courses being private and for golf only. True but what harm does a walker, biker, or jogger do to the course, They are on the golf cart path. When you buy on a golf course you give up some of your privacy.

I think you and many others really are missing the point, some miss it intentionally. It is really not about harm, but simply the fact they are usurping the golf course for their own purposes rather than the purpose it was intended for. Same mentally as using your money to buy themselves something just because your not using the money at the moment.
As to harm, any non-authorized traffic does add wear and tear and just how much is really,again , missing the point

[noslices1]

We live on the 6th hole of the Longleaf executive golf course and we've been noticing lots of folks using the 5th and 6th holes as their personal fitness trail .Bikes, roller blades, runners ,dog walkers you name it they're doing it after the golfers have gone home. Why is this necessary . There are so many trails down here I don't see the need to treat the golf course like this. Al'so after dark we've been seeing people taking their golf carts on a tour disrupting the privacy I bought when I built my house. I'm thinking of walking around my lanai naked after dark that should keep them away:a20:

If you're a 25 year old 125 pound blond chick, I’ll be watching your lanai after dark.

[sallybowron]

When you get ready to skinny dip, let me know. I'll come and play guard for you!

[graciegirl]

From the Villages Good Golf Guide:

• Golf courses are restricted to golfing traffic only.
• Please refrain from riding, biking, fishing, walking or engaging in other recreational activities on the courses.
• Pets are not permitted on golf courses or practice facilities at any time.

[Villagesgal]

closed means closed to all.

[Villagesgal]

I think these posts are going to drive up the property value of my very private lake view home in Fenney. :)

sorry, but you do not own the land directly adjacent to the lake, it is owned by the developer. You have to maintain it, but anyone can walk along the lakefront if it isn't fenced off. If it is fenced off you have to call community watch to report them just like people on a golf course. You do know that you have a greater chance of having a sink hole living near a lake.

[ffresh]

From the Villages Good Golf Guide:

• Golf courses are restricted to golfing traffic only.
• Please refrain from riding, biking, fishing, walking or engaging in other recreational activities on the courses.
• Pets are not permitted on golf courses or practice facilities at any time.


https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/goodgolfguide.pdf

Responding to a post on this forum with logic, or even documentary evidence, is as useful as "pi__ing into the wind" (as me pappy used to say); it serves no useful purpose except to get one's self very wet. Most of these folks (almost always the same posters) will rationalize their behavior and beliefs, regardless of any logic to the contrary. Those who already know, "get it". Those who don't, refuse to "get it". Their pragmatism transcends rules made for mere mortals, after all!

To wit: how could a reasoning individual NOT understand that a golf course is private property and NOT to be used for any activities except golf. And, after hours, NOT to be used for even that activity? Answer: they are either mentally challenged or refuse to "get it" because rules are for the other guy - you know, the "Great Unwashed".

Fred :spoken:

[thelegges]

So, yet another thing to complain about. People are dying, while you sit an grumble about someone walking near your house. The cure for that is buy a house on 5 acres. People can risk their lives and walk in front of your house, on the road, and that's okay with you. People can choose to walk where its safe, not full of drunk drivers, and that's not okay with you. Way to find yet another way to give Villagers a bad name.

People die everyday, in TV, and all over the world.

Post is about those who are walking the courses, which is not allowed, other than the purpose of playing golf. Call golf ADmin they will give you the same answer.

OP is correct course down the street from us has an employee driving the course to warn them they are in the wrong.

[timinthevillages]

Ok if you live on a golf course and you don't mind golfers playing from 7am to 6pm but the clock strikes 1 minutes later someone walks by and it bothers you I guess I get it. But if you don't live on one and it bothers you then dude that sure is a lot of undue stress.

Side note. I live on one and walkers use the path. No extra wear and tear.

[Bosoxfan]

It would be like me walking my dog behind your home at night with a flashlight...stay off the courses

Even though I don't own the golf course I did pay a premium . Correct me if I'm wrong but the courses close after the last tee time is finished. No one should be doing anything but playing golf on the Golf Courses. So not only can I expect to see golfers during hours of operation I should also expect no activity on the closed courses after hours. All of this is why I paid the premium.

[Bosoxfan]

You know a couple walkers at dusk doesn't bother me . It's the bikes, the dog walkers and roller blades. These paths are not meant for this kind of use. After dark is when I don't expect to see golf carts with people partying and slowing down to gawk into my yard or watch me on my lanai. Unacceptable

[JohnN]

I like my corner lot villa wall, plenty of space and nobody intrudes.

[graciegirl]

About seven years ago two grandchildren, teens, tore the hell out of several greens, "just for fun".

Folks aren't allowed to be on golf courses unless they are playing golf or work there. That's how it floats. I never realized how many folks enjoy testing the rules. They assuredly weren't raised by MY mother.

[fdpaq0580]

About seven years ago two grandchildren, teens, tore the hell out of several greens, "just for fun".

Folks aren't allowed to be on golf courses unless they are playing golf or work there. That's how it floats. I never realized how many folks enjoy testing the rules. They assuredly weren't raised by MY mother.

My folks taught me to respect rules and be respectful of others and their property. Parents are to blame when kids, grandkid misbehave or act out destructively. They failed at their job and raised egotistical, arrogant spoiled individuals whom (in their own minds) the world revolves around.
Sad to see the decline of civilization, isn't it?!

[BobnBev]

It starts with a call to Community Watch

Oh yeah, like that's gonna do a lot of good.:ohdear:

[ccudney3]

Different subject. We are renting our place out and part of the package is golf. The Villages have decided that guests are not allowed to play the executive courses. Renters/ guest are pretty upset about this. Quoting- this is part of the package I payed for. Responses?