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missypie
05-22-2020, 05:47 PM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

JoMar
05-22-2020, 05:52 PM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

I feel the same when car dealers send me that key :)

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-22-2020, 05:53 PM
Jehovah Witnesses don't "prey" on elderly folks. They're not trying to get anyone to give them money, property, food, clothing, homes, cars, or anything else. Even if you end up joining their religion, you're not required to take a vow of poverty and give up all your worldly goods or any other such thing.

It can annoy you - you have the right to be annoyed. But if they put a stamp on it and sent it first-class, they have the right to send it to you.

Just stick it in the trash and don't worry yourself another moment about it. They won't take it personally if you say no.

davem4616
05-22-2020, 06:03 PM
if you consider something junk mail...treat it that way and don't make a darn issue out of it

non of us can control the junk mail that comes our way...everyone is selling their contact lists to others for $$$$

I donate a lot to The Salvation Army...they send me emails from 3 different Salvation Army locations twice a month asking for help

I don't get twisted around my underwear about it...I just throw those mailers out and contribute when I want to (because I truly believe in that charity)

CWGUY
05-22-2020, 06:07 PM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

:shrug: Must not be roofers! :icon_wink:

Stu from NYC
05-22-2020, 06:07 PM
That is why one has a circular file

We moved here a few months ago from Virginia and our junk mail didnt get forwarded, thankfully but now we have a whole new set to toss.

CWGUY
05-22-2020, 06:16 PM
I feel the same when car dealers send me that key :)

:agree: And who told them that size matters? Mine is bigger than yours - :pepper2: Some of those flyers are HUGH!

Marathon Man
05-22-2020, 07:44 PM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

So, you are not irritated by other "unwanted" mail? Just from the JW's. guess that tells us something.

Stu from NYC
05-22-2020, 08:44 PM
So, you are not irritated by other "unwanted" mail? Just from the JW's. guess that tells us something.

Good point

timinthevillages
05-22-2020, 09:50 PM
Just a reminder. At my mail box unit there is a sign asking to take your junk mail home and to please not deposit it in the community trash cans.

Velvet
05-22-2020, 10:31 PM
I wish there was a way of the postman/woman identifying what I consider junk mail. I’m actually paying for my mailbox for this stuff and then they even put me to work throwing it out. And because my name and address are on it, I prefer to shred it. I think we should be able to do something to stop this type of annoying behavior.

golfing eagles
05-23-2020, 04:48 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

Too bad they didn't send it when the TP shortage was at its worst :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Girlcopper
05-23-2020, 04:48 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.
Its called “junk” mail. Throw it away and go on with your life. Geeez

Heyitsrick
05-23-2020, 04:58 AM
I wish there was a way of the postman/woman identifying what I consider junk mail. I’m actually paying for my mailbox for this stuff and then they even put me to work throwing it out. And because my name and address are on it, I prefer to shred it. I think we should be able to do something to stop this type of annoying behavior.

That's a disaster waiting to happen. If postal employees have to take the time to identify "junk" mail, sooner or later (sooner) someone's not going to get a check in the mail or some such, and it's lawsuit time. Plus, what's the postal worker supposed to do then, schlep the "junk" mail back to the post office? They're delivery people. I don't want them making value judgments about my mail.

maggie1
05-23-2020, 05:30 AM
That's a disaster waiting to happen. If postal employees have to take the time to identify "junk" mail, sooner or later (sooner) someone's not going to get a check in the mail or some such, and it's lawsuit time. Plus, what's the postal worker supposed to do then, schlep the "junk" mail back to the post office? They're delivery people. I don't want them making value judgments about my mail.

Good point! In addition to that, there are some pretty lonely people in this community who appreciate getting somethi ng in the mail, even if it ends up in the circular container.

woderfulwendy1
05-23-2020, 05:50 AM
Good point! In addition to that, there are some pretty lonely people in this community who appreciate getting somethi ng in the mail, even if it ends up in the circular container.
Any trashcan, anywhere is a trashcan! Don't want trash in it, don't put it there.

retiredguy123
05-23-2020, 05:50 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.
I don't think they are singling out elderly people. They have been preying on people of all ages for as long as I can remember. I even remember them coming to my college dorm room. If you want to complain, I would suggest that you either reply to the letter with your opinion or refuse delivery and put the letter back in the mailbox.

smilesniki
05-23-2020, 06:08 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

Just Google how to stop junk mail and follow the instructions, its that easy.

wjearly
05-23-2020, 06:19 AM
Two of them knocked on our door. Being a nice guy I invited them in offered them coffee or a soft drink and then invited them to tell me what they had to say. They looked at each other and then the taller of the two said, " I don't know, we have never gotten this far."

Michael Charles
05-23-2020, 06:35 AM
I have an idea regarding unwanted solicitations for credit card applications or any junk mail with self addressed postage paid envelopes included. Take a piece of the JUNK MAIL literature WITHOUT your name or any of your personal info on it and putting it into the return envelope and mail it back to them. If hundreds of thousands of these postage paid empty envelopes get sent back to them they will be overwhelmed with our JUNK MAIL that they might just adapt new techniques! If nothing else they might need to hire more people to open these empty envelopes!

golfing eagles
05-23-2020, 06:42 AM
Two of them knocked on our door. Being a nice guy I invited them in offered them coffee or a soft drink and then invited them to tell me what they had to say. They looked at each other and then the taller of the two said, " I don't know, we have never gotten this far."

I saw that TV show too :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Pamelah
05-23-2020, 06:49 AM
Why then, have a community trash can at postal stations??? Oh, maybe for doggie-doo bags?

TandHSTAR@AOL.com
05-23-2020, 06:50 AM
Thank you. Yes it's my favorite charity as well. Junk mail is junk.mail no matter where a
Or who sends it. Throw it away. No big deal. We have trash pick up.

TandHSTAR@AOL.com
05-23-2020, 06:52 AM
Hey I think you just increased the work force.

fdpaq0580
05-23-2020, 07:05 AM
Too bad they didn't send it when the TP shortage was at its worst :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Agree! Timing just a bit behind the curve.

caseycasebeer
05-23-2020, 07:06 AM
Respectfully, I must take a different view.

I am not a JW, and not interested in joining their church, but have found them to be friendly and easy to talk-to. I have my own belief system, but (honestly) I learn more about the Bible with each JW visitation. The two that come by my home are welcomed during their 2-3 visits per year. Yea, I know they’re not “supposed” solicit but I’d rather talk to them than the stream of folks who want to inspect my roof, or whatever.

Believe it or not, I have actually READ “The Watchtower” they leave with me. I find it fairly elementary, but easily understood. I am not interested in joining their Faith, but Lord knows (pun intended), in the present World I welcome most folks who honestly hold their ‘belief.

Given the anger that TOTV sometimes elicits, I’m almost fearful of what my comments may bring ... but what the Hell, we can all have our own perspectives.

P.S. I received a brief handwritten letter from my JW-guy (Dale...) on Friday.
He simply expressed concern for all of us in these difficult pandemic times, and hoped I was doing ‘ok. His letter wasn’t ‘preachy, political, or asking for a donation. All-in-all I welcome the next time we have a chance to chat.

Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com
05-23-2020, 07:11 AM
Too bad they didn't send it when the TP shortage was at its worst :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Folks, this one made me laugh :a040: :a040: Definitely best post in the thread. :bigbow: :bigbow: :bigbow: :boom: :boom:

Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com
05-23-2020, 07:13 AM
I don't think they are singling out elderly people. They have been preying on people of all ages for as long as I can remember. I even remember them coming to my college dorm room. If you want to complain, I would suggest that you either reply to the letter with your opinion or refuse delivery and put the letter back in the mailbox.

Just put it on an outgoing mailbox with RETURN TO SENDER written in bold letters on the front of the envelope :boom: :boom: :boom:

dewilson58
05-23-2020, 07:13 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.


It worked, you read the letter. :ohdear:

mrf6969
05-23-2020, 07:20 AM
Ever wonder why there are 2 trash containers at the mail house? Ever notice how full they are when you pick up your mail later in the day?

EdFNJ
05-23-2020, 07:25 AM
31 messages (so far) about a piece of JUNK MAIL. :faint:

fdpaq0580
05-23-2020, 07:35 AM
[QUOTE=caseycasebeer;1769552]Respectfully, I must take a different view.

I am not a JW, and not interested in joining their church, but have found them to be friendly and easy to talk-to. I have my own belief system, but (honestly) I learn more about the Bible with each JW visitation. The two that come by my home are welcomed during their 2-3 visits per year. Yea, I know they’re not “supposed” solicit but I’d rather talk to them than the stream of folks who want to inspect my roof, or whatever.

Believe it or not, I have actually READ “The Watchtower” they leave with me. I find it fairly elementary, but easily understood. I am not interested in joining their Faith, but Lord knows (pun intended), in the present World I welcome most folks who honestly hold their ‘belief.

Given the anger that TOTV sometimes elicits, I’m almost fearful of what my comments may bring ... but what the Hell, we can all have our own perspectives.

P.S. I received a brief handwritten letter from my JW-guy (Dale...) on Friday.
He simply expressed concern for all of us in these difficult pandemic times, and hoped I was doing ‘ok. His letter wasn’t ‘preachy, political, or asking for a donation. All-in-all I welcome the next time we have a chance to chat.[/QUOTE

Well written expression of another's point of view based on their personal experience.
I also had a friend who had different points of view regarding politics and religion than my own. But we got along great and truly enjoyed each other's company. We found that political and religious differences didn't really divide us. I miss him.

chrisinva
05-23-2020, 07:44 AM
I have an idea regarding unwanted solicitations for credit card applications or any junk mail with self addressed postage paid envelopes included. Take a piece of the JUNK MAIL literature WITHOUT your name or any of your personal info on it and putting it into the return envelope and mail it back to them. If hundreds of thousands of these postage paid empty envelopes get sent back to them they will be overwhelmed with our JUNK MAIL that they might just adapt new techniques! If nothing else they might need to hire more people to open these empty envelopes!
I used to do this but included a page with my name & address. In fact I'd stuff extra pages in the rerun envelope to make it weigh more. Didn't work - still got the junk from the same people.

Carla B
05-23-2020, 07:47 AM
I said to Bill, the postman at our former address, that wouldn't it be good if he didn't have so much junk mail to deliver. He replied, "No, junk mail is what keeps us working."

tallmanf
05-23-2020, 07:55 AM
I get lots of mail for dead people.

joseppe
05-23-2020, 07:59 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

So what bothered you more, that it was an unsolicited invitation (junk mail), or that it was a religious group?

roscoguy
05-23-2020, 07:59 AM
I wish there was a way of the postman/woman identifying what I consider junk mail. I’m actually paying for my mailbox for this stuff and then they even put me to work throwing it out. And because my name and address are on it, I prefer to shred it. I think we should be able to do something to stop this type of annoying behavior.

Actually, there is something you can do:USPS.com FAQs (https://faq.usps.com/s/article/Refuse-unwanted-mail-and-remove-name-from-mailing-lists)
It is NOT up to your carrier, however, to determine whether or not you would like to receive it. And honestly, you pay the same amount for the mailbox regardless of the volume of mail, junk or treasure. About a .1 of 10 on my annoyance scale... chilout

Pajulian
05-23-2020, 08:01 AM
Advertisers get reduced rates for bulk mail while we get rate increases for first class mail. Final analysis - we subsidize that junk mail.

Travelingal702
05-23-2020, 08:10 AM
I feel the same when car dealers send me that key :)
What gets me is mail addressed to my decease husband who NEVER lived here. If there is a stamped envelope included with the junk, I STUFF all of it back into the envelope (and more if it fits) and send it back to them with a note telling them this. AAA insurance is the worst offender.

Stu from NYC
05-23-2020, 08:23 AM
Advertisers get reduced rates for bulk mail while we get rate increases for first class mail. Final analysis - we subsidize that junk mail.

sad but true

Stu from NYC
05-23-2020, 08:24 AM
What gets me is mail addressed to my decease husband who NEVER lived here. If there is a stamped envelope included with the junk, I STUFF all of it back into the envelope (and more if it fits) and send it back to them with a note telling them this. AAA insurance is the worst offender.

Recently moved here from Va. Our son moved out 25 years ago to go to college and years later got junk mail in Va.

Remarkably he is starting to get junk mail here.

sswitenki
05-23-2020, 08:35 AM
I am amazed that we continue to get the previous owners mail. I tried writing on envelope to return to sender, addressee no longer lives at this address. It just gets returned to my mailbox!!!! I am not going to take in other peoples mail to my home to dispose of. I get plenty of my own. 😉. I feel bad that they are not getting what might be important notices but my husband keeps reminding me that we have more important things to worry about. Says throw in trash and out of my mind.

graciegirl
05-23-2020, 08:36 AM
I know the OP. She is a kind and loving person.

I personally have never had any problems with Jehovah Witnesses when they knock on our door.

I think that one of the tenets of their faith is to "spread the gospel",( the teachings of Christ) and that is what they try to do in the face of scorn and rejection.

I believe that it only takes a minute to thank them, take their packet of information and be kind. They don't ask for money, they are doing what they think is a good thing.

Now they are sending personal notes. I think they are just trying to do what THEY think is the right thing to do.

Worry about people who want to put a new roof on your house.

Rodneysblue
05-23-2020, 08:37 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.
Just close the curtains, turn off the lights and TV and wait for the letter to go away.:):a040::a040::a040::a040:

17362
05-23-2020, 08:57 AM
Ya all the junk mail since we moved here is unreal. I have tried getting it all cut even to point of calling and writing these places that send it and get my address removed. It still comes in buckets.

theruizs
05-23-2020, 09:05 AM
Any trashcan, anywhere is a trashcan! Don't want trash in it, don't put it there.

I think the point of the sign was intended to be to take your junk mail home and put in your with your recyclables. But that will be moot soon too I think when everything will start going to be burned.

Chrisw2366
05-23-2020, 09:06 AM
And they say the post office is going broke

theruizs
05-23-2020, 09:20 AM
My parents were Jehovah’s Witnesses and I was also until about 1991 or so. They are only doing what is required of them to do to remain in good standing, and what they believe the Creator expects of them. They also do it because they truly believe that this system of things is ending and many will lose their lives forever. So if you care for your fellow man, that is a pretty strong motivation. They have no ill intent and make absolutely no money doing their ministry work, in fact it costs them money and time to do it. I have my issues with their beliefs, but not their motivations.

jblum315
05-23-2020, 09:24 AM
I once sent a junk mail back with pieces of heavy tile in the envelope so yhey had to pay the return postage never heard from those folks again

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-23-2020, 10:15 AM
Advertisers get reduced rates for bulk mail while we get rate increases for first class mail. Final analysis - we subsidize that junk mail.

That's not even almost true.

The bulk mail payments are what allows you to only have to pay 55 cents for up to an ounce of mail in a single envelope. Bulk mail customers are the primary supporters of the USPS. Without them, you would either be paying $2-3 per letter, or you'd have to use UPS or FedEx at $5.95+

erhrph
05-23-2020, 10:16 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

Our mail boxes are being filled with "junk mail". This is stuff we don't subscribe to, and yet keeps coming with a vengeance. Individually, you can't stop it. If we all did NOT respond to such email solicitations, eventually they would disappear. These companies do studies on their effectiveness of mail advertising. Some of you are donating, buying, or participating from these mail solicitations. This is what keeps the mail cancer continuing. Keep in mind that if you donate to a "cause" pitched to you through the mail, your donation is helping to fund other mail distributions. What a waste of your money. DO NOT DONATE TO ANY POLITICAL CANDIDATE EVER!! If they get your address after you donate, you will be hounded for money till you die!

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-23-2020, 10:27 AM
Our mail boxes are being filled with "junk mail". This is stuff we don't subscribe to, and yet keeps coming with a vengeance. Individually, you can't stop it. If we all did NOT respond to such email solicitations, eventually they would disappear. These companies do studies on their effectiveness of mail advertising. Some of you are donating, buying, or participating from these mail solicitations. This is what keeps the mail cancer continuing. Keep in mind that if you donate to a "cause" pitched to you through the mail, your donation is helping to fund other mail distributions. What a waste of your money. DO NOT DONATE TO ANY POLITICAL CANDIDATE EVER!! If they get your address after you donate, you will be hounded for money till you die!

You can significantly reduce your political junk mail. Don't donate to a political candidate or PAC or political organization (such as the GOP or RNC). Don't be a "registered Democrat" or "registered Republican." Vote however you want to vote, just don't register as an official [insert party here].

The only downside to being unaffiliated is you can't vote in the primaries in Florida. So you'd have to affiliate for the primaries - and then you can opt out again once the primaries are over. You can only affiliate with a single party - you can't switch during the primary season, only once before hand, and then again after it's over (so no, you can't cheat and vote in each party's primary).

Number 10 GI
05-23-2020, 10:35 AM
I can only wish that junk mail was the worst problem I had in life.

Curtisbwp
05-23-2020, 10:37 AM
Ouch...that is harsh

PugMom
05-23-2020, 10:39 AM
Respectfully, I must take a different view.

I am not a JW, and not interested in joining their church, but have found them to be friendly and easy to talk-to. I have my own belief system, but (honestly) I learn more about the Bible with each JW visitation. The two that come by my home are welcomed during their 2-3 visits per year. Yea, I know they’re not “supposed” solicit but I’d rather talk to them than the stream of folks who want to inspect my roof, or whatever.

Believe it or not, I have actually READ “The Watchtower” they leave with me. I find it fairly elementary, but easily understood. I am not interested in joining their Faith, but Lord knows (pun intended), in the present World I welcome most folks who honestly hold their ‘belief.

Given the anger that TOTV sometimes elicits, I’m almost fearful of what my comments may bring ... but what the Hell, we can all have our own perspectives.

P.S. I received a brief handwritten letter from my JW-guy (Dale...) on Friday.
He simply expressed concern for all of us in these difficult pandemic times, and hoped I was doing ‘ok. His letter wasn’t ‘preachy, political, or asking for a donation. All-in-all I welcome the next time we have a chance to chat.
i find them much more pleasant & engaging than the Mormons. i don't hide when i see jh coming

JoMar
05-23-2020, 10:47 AM
Today junk mail is done by specialized companies that use computerized mailing lists and that is millions and millions of names and addresses. My Mom died in 2003 (lived in PA) and a couple times a year she gets invited to Ocala for a free dinner to hear about investment opportunities. I got my divorce in 1988 and my ex wife (lives in PA) we receive offers for stuff in Disney in her name. Now that she turned 65 we get all the Medicare mailings for her. I called and asked if she wanted them forwarded, she declined :). My last name has an Asian ring to it and up until two years ago we received offers addressed to my ex wife for Asian cosmetics.

retiredguy123
05-23-2020, 10:57 AM
The solution is for Congress to allow postal customers to cancel their account. Then, all official mail would need to be rerouted using a private service like UPS or FedEx, and junk mail would stop. It would also save energy and taxpayer money. I only go to the postal station about once a week to collect my mail, which is about 99 percent trash.

kathy1516
05-23-2020, 10:59 AM
Your welcome to take my junk mail home with you. My trash is heavy enough to put out without all the crap I find in my box. There should be a bin for recyclable junk mail at postal station.

vermonster
05-23-2020, 11:14 AM
Jehovah Witnesses don't "prey" on elderly folks. They're not trying to get anyone to give them money, property, food, clothing, homes, cars, or anything else. Even if you end up joining their religion, you're not required to take a vow of poverty and give up all your worldly goods or any other such thing.

It can annoy you - you have the right to be annoyed. But if they put a stamp on it and sent it first-class, they have the right to send it to you.

Just stick it in the trash and don't worry yourself another moment about it. They won't take it personally if you say no.
Correction: please place it in your recycling. Junk mail is still recyclable, at least at this time. Reduce, reuse, recycle.

Velvet
05-23-2020, 11:18 AM
That's a disaster waiting to happen. If postal employees have to take the time to identify "junk" mail, sooner or later (sooner) someone's not going to get a check in the mail or some such, and it's lawsuit time. Plus, what's the postal worker supposed to do then, schlep the "junk" mail back to the post office? They're delivery people. I don't want them making value judgments about my mail.

Yes, I agree they wouldn’t know what to send back... I just hate paying for a service that puts me to work... I feel same way about garbage phone calls. It would be nice if we could have a “do not deliver” list.

JoMar
05-23-2020, 11:31 AM
Your welcome to take my junk mail home with you. My trash is heavy enough to put out without all the crap I find in my box. There should be a bin for recyclable junk mail at postal station.

Assumes people would know what goes in what bin....I assume recycling will disappear here soon and everything will end up being burned to generate power.

Stu from NYC
05-23-2020, 12:10 PM
Our mail boxes are being filled with "junk mail". This is stuff we don't subscribe to, andIf they get your address after you donate, you will be hounded for money till you die!

Or even longer:icon_wink:

Stu from NYC
05-23-2020, 12:13 PM
Today junk mail is done by specialized companies that use computerized mailing lists and that is millions and millions of names and addresses. My Mom died in 2003 (lived in PA) and a couple times a year she gets invited to Ocala for a free dinner to hear about investment opportunities. I got my divorce in 1988 and my ex wife (lives in PA) we receive offers for stuff in Disney in her name. Now that she turned 65 we get all the Medicare mailings for her. I called and asked if she wanted them forwarded, she declined :). My last name has an Asian ring to it and up until two years ago we received offers addressed to my ex wife for Asian cosmetics.

Wonder if you can get free dinners offered to your mom?

Stu from NYC
05-23-2020, 12:14 PM
Yes, I agree they wouldn’t know what to send back... I just hate paying for a service that puts me to work... I feel same way about garbage phone calls. It would be nice if we could have a “do not deliver” list.

For garbage phone call like to see how long I can keep the crooks on the phone. Make them think they have a live one and keep talking or asking them to hold on.

Hoping in long run will lead to less of these calls

stits128
05-23-2020, 01:00 PM
If you get an email with "Knock, Knock" as the subject, don't open it. It's probably from a Jehovah's Witness working from home.

carhirsch
05-23-2020, 01:46 PM
I save those keys, put them on a keychain and give them to my young granddaughters. They love them

JoMar
05-23-2020, 03:28 PM
Wonder if you can get free dinners offered to your mom?

Oh we thought about it, it's just sitting through the presentation that keeps us from going :)

swooner
05-23-2020, 04:16 PM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.
Don't you have a trash can?

Stu from NYC
05-23-2020, 04:19 PM
Oh we thought about it, it's just sitting through the presentation that keeps us from going :)

In a very good restaurant sometimes it is worth it

Mumbles
05-23-2020, 06:10 PM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.
Yeah, fortunately for us, they are not allowed to go knocking on doors. I realize it upsets some people, but long ago I personally stopped being upset. I have always invited them into my home (they're not usually murderers and/or rapists), and we've spent plenty of time talking about their faith and mine (Catholic). I feel VERY comfortable speaking with them (or others). But I always reject accepting Watchtower etc. because they just won't switch me onto their ideas. Not sure, but I believe being strong in one's own faith would lead one to handle this without emotional involvement.

Velvet
05-23-2020, 07:28 PM
It is part of their faith to witness. I had JW students too and one very beautiful young lady as my aide. I respect their faith but they need to respect mine too. When two JW ladies came to the door (up north) and they did not want to leave I said to them; “Think of the women! Have mercy on the women.” JW’s seem somewhat more partial to males, in my opinion. They ran away from my door. I guess they were only ready to talk at me not discuss with me.

TomPerrett
05-23-2020, 10:56 PM
That junk mail is paying for postage. Keeps our postal workers employed.

Christephen
05-24-2020, 03:28 AM
There is a way to stop most junk mail from hitting your mailbox.
1) On the supermarket flyers, there is an 800# . Simply call it, give them your address and tell them to take you off their mailing list.
2) Much like the “Do not call list” there is a “do not mail” list as well
Simply either write to your post master, and request only first and second class mail delivery. This will take approximately 190 days to process.
Sometimes, a bit longer, depending on how much volume is received.
A better, and quicker way, is to write or call each perceived junk mailing you receive, and ask to be removed from their mailing list. The success rate for this is quick, usually one cycle.(month)
Do not ask or harass your letter carrier to throw away your” junk mail”. It is your mail, it has your address on it, take responsibility for your own.
A letter carrier can be fired for this action.
On and end note, did you know that every letter carrier’s in the country salary is paid by the proceeds that red plum, ( supermarkets flyers) pays the post office to deliver?
So think about that

Christephen
05-24-2020, 03:45 AM
Did you know that the post office, although federal, does not receive any taxpayer money at all?
It is self sufficient, running itself through proceeds of stamp sales, and advertising etc
Did you know, that in 2006, congress mandated the postal service to prefund future retirees benefits up to 75 years to the tune of 6 billion , yes billion dollars, a year!
Show me any other business that can take 6 billion dollars in cash each year off the top of their sales, and show a decent profit.
It’s ok, I’ll wait for your answer.

Two Bills
05-24-2020, 03:55 AM
In UK our mail is still delivered to the door.
Our local postie calls Tuesdays 'wages day' as that is when most of the flyers come through the door.
He says it's the day the Postal Service makes enough money to pay his wages.
Rest of the regular mail barely covers costs.

DeafDeaf
05-24-2020, 06:24 PM
Every time I detect they are at my front door, the first thing I did is to take my shirt off, and then opened the door. They freaked out and left!

Stu from NYC
05-24-2020, 07:07 PM
In UK our mail is still delivered to the door.
Our local postie calls Tuesdays 'wages day' as that is when most of the flyers come through the door.
He says it's the day the Postal Service makes enough money to pay his wages.
Rest of the regular mail barely covers costs.

In most places mail delivered to your door or to mailbox at the street. Does allow me to get some exercise walking to the mail boxes

Stu from NYC
05-24-2020, 07:09 PM
There is a way to stop most junk mail from hitting your mailbox.
1) On the supermarket flyers, there is an 800# . Simply call it, give them your address and tell them to take you off their mailing list.
2) Much like the “Do not call list” there is a “do not mail” list as well
Simply either write to your post master, and request only first and second class mail delivery. This will take approximately 190 days to process.
Sometimes, a bit longer, depending on how much volume is received.
A better, and quicker way, is to write or call each perceived junk mailing you receive, and ask to be removed from their mailing list. The success rate for this is quick, usually one cycle.(month)
Do not ask or harass your letter carrier to throw away your” junk mail”. It is your mail, it has your address on it, take responsibility for your own.
A letter carrier can be fired for this action.
On and end note, did you know that every letter carrier’s in the country salary is paid by the proceeds that red plum, ( supermarkets flyers) pays the post office to deliver?
So think about that

Would think the do not mail list has to work better than do not call which is totally useless.

EdFNJ
05-24-2020, 08:40 PM
Would think the do not mail list has to work better than do not call which is totally useless. I have filled out the "do not mail" forms online for my deceased mother and father every few months for almost 3 years and the mail never stops. I get more mail from them then I get for myself. I made the mistake of changing their address to mine rather than forwarding the mail for a year. It only works for mailers who belong to a certain group of commercial bulk mailers (forgot which one it was) and like the DNC list it's pretty meaningless.

Stu from NYC
05-24-2020, 09:02 PM
I have filled out the "do not mail" forms online for my deceased mother and father every few months for almost 3 years and the mail never stops. I get more mail from them then I get for myself. I made the mistake of changing their address to mine rather than forwarding the mail for a year. It only works for mailers who belong to a certain group of commercial bulk mailers (forgot which one it was) and like the DNC list it's pretty meaningless.

Not at all surprised

nn0wheremann
05-26-2020, 06:59 AM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.
First Amendment freedom of speech is a constraint upon government, not an inducement to individuals. The Fourth Amendment guarantees freedom in our property and persons. Some of these political and religious proselytizers ought to learn to respect our Fourth Amendment freedom FROM their First Amendment freedom of speech.

biker1
05-26-2020, 07:07 AM
When Jehovah witness visit your home - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJIWl74Qbs)


Two of them knocked on our door. Being a nice guy I invited them in offered them coffee or a soft drink and then invited them to tell me what they had to say. They looked at each other and then the taller of the two said, " I don't know, we have never gotten this far."

Topspinmo
05-26-2020, 03:24 PM
We have recieved a handwritten letter from the Jehovah Witnesses. Stating these are rough times, etc..... I would like to tell them to keep their opinions to themselves and not to prey on elderly folks. Yes I know first ammendment rights, but just because you can't go door to door, leave folks alone.

Please don’t throw it in the trash at postal centers, take it home and throw it in you’re trash! After all it you’re junk mail. :)

Stu from NYC
05-26-2020, 04:10 PM
Please don’t throw it in the trash at postal centers, take it home and throw it in you’re trash! After all it you’re junk mail. :)

But I want to share my good fortune:a040:

stan the man
05-27-2020, 06:56 AM
Many charities fail to inform where money goes - Cars for… an Orthodox Jewish Cause ... by failing to inform them that donated cars will benefit a Jewish organization and kids of Jewish faith.

BamaBoy451
05-27-2020, 10:19 AM
That is why one has a circular file

We moved here a few months ago from Virginia and our junk mail didnt get forwarded, thankfully but now we have a whole new set to toss.

The Villages is the only place we've lived where our mail box is filled daily with junk from car dealers, hearing aid companies, cremation and funeral businesses, health scans, nursing and memory care places, financial planners, lawn care and countless others. It's like they're trying to plan the remainder of our lives!:)

Stu from NYC
05-27-2020, 10:25 AM
Many charities fail to inform where money goes - Cars for… an Orthodox Jewish Cause ... by failing to inform them that donated cars will benefit a Jewish organization and kids of Jewish faith.

I know there are many charities that give out little information on percentage of money raised that go to benefit the cause there are raising money on or exactly where the money is going.

However just wondering why you are pointing out just a Jewish cause which if they are upfront about saying where the money go is doing nothing wrong.

ColdNoMore
05-27-2020, 11:18 AM
I know there are many charities that give out little information on percentage of money raised that go to benefit the cause there are raising money on or exactly where the money is going.

However just wondering why you are pointing out just a Jewish cause which if they are upfront about saying where the money go is doing nothing wrong.

That's obviously a rhetorical question, as most decent folks will figure out...it speaks for itself. :ohdear:


As for charities, I use this before I give:


Charity Navigator (poke here) (http://charitynavigator.org) :thumbup:

Velvet
05-27-2020, 01:09 PM
Please don’t throw it in the trash at postal centers, take it home and throw it in you’re trash! After all it you’re junk mail. :)

Well, no it is not MY junk mail. Just because someone gets a hold of my name and address without my permission and uses it - does not make it mine. With that logic, I could just write my name on Oprah’s bank account add my address and it would be mine. :)

Stu from NYC
05-27-2020, 02:53 PM
Well, no it is not MY junk mail. Just because someone gets a hold of my name and address without my permission and uses it - does not make it mine. With that logic, I could just write my name on Oprah’s bank account add my address and it would be mine. :)

Good point

Topspinmo
05-27-2020, 09:34 PM
Well, no it is not MY junk mail. Just because someone gets a hold of my name and address without my permission and uses it - does not make it mine. With that logic, I could just write my name on Oprah’s bank account add my address and it would be mine. :)

If it got you’re name on it it’s you’re. Only the entitled put it in the trash can at postal stations. If there wasn’t so many %$# around the postal station would need trash cans.

Michael Charles
05-28-2020, 03:23 AM
If it got you’re name on it it’s you’re. Only the entitled put it in the trash can at postal stations. If there wasn’t so many %$# around the postal station would need trash cans.

Seriously?

What does being ENTITLED have to do with it?

At our postal station the DEVELOPER has placed 3 trash containers. I wonder why they thought that WE would be in need of 3 trash containers there? If they're as CHEAP as most say or think they wouldn't even place 1 there, then, we would have to take our unwanted junk mail home to dispose of.

ENTITLED? Really, get a grip.

Stu from NYC
05-28-2020, 08:06 AM
If it got you’re name on it it’s you’re. Only the entitled put it in the trash can at postal stations. If there wasn’t so many %$# around the postal station would need trash cans.

They pick up the trash in TV wherever it is located. What is the difference as long as the bins are not overloaded with mail all over the floor?

retiredguy123
05-28-2020, 08:22 AM
Seriously?

What does being ENTITLED have to do with it?

At our postal station the DEVELOPER has placed 3 trash containers. I wonder why they thought that WE would be in need of 3 trash containers there? If they're as CHEAP as most say or think they wouldn't even place 1 there, then, we would have to take our unwanted junk mail home to dispose of.

ENTITLED? Really, get a grip.
My postal station has 5 trash containers, but, apparently, you are not supposed to put anything in them.

justjim
05-28-2020, 08:27 AM
Frankly, like some others, I have more problems with “junk” emails. You can unsubscribe but many times they are right back and then everyday there are new ones. These unwanted emails “clog up” your I-pad, phone and computer. Sorry, off the OP’S subject a bit.

Tweety Bird
05-28-2020, 12:58 PM
[QUOTE=caseycasebeer;1769552]Respectfully, I must take a different view.

I am not a JW, and not interested in joining their church, but have found them to be friendly and easy to talk-to. I have my own belief system, but (honestly) I learn more about the Bible with each JW visitation. The two that come by my home are welcomed during their 2-3 visits per year. Yea, I know they’re not “supposed” solicit but I’d rather talk to them than the stream of folks who want to inspect my roof, or whatever.

Believe it or not, I have actually READ “The Watchtower” they leave with me. I find it fairly elementary, but easily understood. I am not interested in joining their Faith, but Lord knows (pun intended), in the present World I welcome most folks who honestly hold their ‘belief.

Given the anger that TOTV sometimes elicits, I’m almost fearful of what my comments may bring ... but what the Hell, we can all have our own perspectives.

P.S. I received a brief handwritten letter from my JW-guy (Dale...) on Friday.
He simply expressed concern for all of us in these difficult pandemic times, and hoped I was doing ‘ok. His letter wasn’t ‘preachy, political, or asking for a donation. All-in-all I welcome the next time we have a chance to chat.[/QUOTE

Well written expression of another's point of view based on their personal experience.
I also had a friend who had different points of view regarding politics and religion than my own. But we got along great and truly enjoyed each other's company. We found that political and religious differences didn't really divide us. I miss him.
I am one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. We are writing letters out of true sincerity and care. We are Christians that follow Jesus’ footsteps which he taught his original apostles how to preach and teach. Jesus said “and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come”. And THIS is what we are doing world wide. We are respectful of the law and of social distancing by not going to your door during COVID 19. So, we are writing you a thoughtful personal letter which could be considered as an education into someone else’s faith? The receiver of a letter need not be nasty and dismissive. Opinions are an exchange of thoughts. The same as a person who goes to college receives an education of different thoughts. We have a wonderful website JW.ORG that gives a tremendous amount of information about our faith. There are tons of questions people have that have biblical answers. We are here to find sheep who have a spiritual need. So, please don’t be nasty and dismissive to a kind letter that comes your way. It is out of love and following Jesus.

Velvet
05-28-2020, 01:26 PM
I was taught to be a missionary myself. And how to witness. We witnessed upon invitation only. It is true we were taught to help those who needed it, physically, mentally and when they asked spiritually. You cannot force feed religion into people. That is harassment to those who don’t want it.

One of the freedoms God gave us is the freedom to choose. As Creator (if you consider Him that way) He could have made us like robots everyone worship by instinct, but He let us chose - it is not up to people to take away that choice.