The New York Times front page posts heartbreaking list of people dead from Covid-19.

[graciegirl]

A heartbreaking New York Times front page lists 1,000 coronavirus deaths — just 1% of the total US death toll (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/a-heartbreaking-new-york-times-front-page-lists-1000-coronavirus-deaths-e2-80-94-just-1-25-of-the-total-us-death-toll/ar-BB14vyue?ocid=uxbndlbing)

[JimJohnson]

If notification had been given to the public when it was known to the officials, so many lives would have been saved. Very sad.

[bilcon]

How do you really know we have the most cases in the world? Do you think China, Russia etc have accurately reported their actual cases? Don't compare our reaction to the Virus with a third world country like Brazil, and don't start with the politics. THE BLAME GAME DOESN'T WORK.
You also have to consider our size compared to many of the other countries- Italy, Spain, France etc.

[GoodLife]

A heartbreaking New York Times front page lists 1,000 coronavirus deaths — just 1% of the total US death toll (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/a-heartbreaking-new-york-times-front-page-lists-1000-coronavirus-deaths-e2-80-94-just-1-25-of-the-total-us-death-toll/ar-BB14vyue?ocid=uxbndlbing)

How strange, they could have filled 6-10 pages of 1000 each just from deaths in New York nursing homes.

[graciegirl]

How strange, they could have filled 6-10 pages of 1000 each just from deaths in New York nursing homes.

I will never be able to understand why people try to put a political slant on a situation where almost everyone is peddling as best they can. Why people blame the deaths on this or that, or change the subject into elaborate conspiracies. I do not know why people follow the direction of any politician who is not following the direction of good medical science. I will never be able to understand why people do not see that the repercussions of this novel virus will devastate the economy of the world although I do not believe that it was engineered or planned to do so. I don't want to influence anyone in how they live and the choices they make. I do believe that the demographics of The Villages put a target on our backs. I also believe that almost every single person who lives here not only realizes the effect on business here and everywhere and cares about the business here and everywhere. We all have lived long enough to know what will happen. And I believe most people care deeply about business AND the health of their peers.

It is my opinion that many governors, no matter which side of the aisle they sit on have tried to protect lives. I commend both Mike DeWine and Governor Cuomo. Ditto others on both sides of the aisle. They are working with statistics that are incomplete. ALL have made mistakes.

[Aces4]

I will never be able to understand why people try to put a political slant on a situation where almost everyone is peddling as best they can. Why people blame the deaths on this or that, or change the subject into elaborate conspiracies. I do not know why people follow the direction of any politician who is not following the direction of good medical science. I will never be able to understand why people do not see that the repercussions of this novel virus will devastate the economy of the world although I do not believe that it was engineered or planned to do so. I don't want to influence anyone in how they live and the choices they make. I do believe that the demographics of The Villages put a target on our backs. I also believe that almost every single person who lives here not only realizes the effect on business here and everywhere and cares about the business here and everywhere. We all have lived long enough to know what will happen. And I believe most people care deeply about business and the health of their peers.

It is my opinion that many governors, no matter which side of the aisle they sit on have tried to protect lives. I commend both Mike DeWine and Governor Cuomo. Ditto others on both sides of the aisle. They are working on statistics that are incomplete. ALL have made mistakes.

I haven’t heard any medical advice from any politician who does not have sound medical science from the best professionals out there. Would you please share with us who this would be?

[villagerjack]

A heartbreaking New York Times front page lists 1,000 coronavirus deaths — just 1% of the total US death toll (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/a-heartbreaking-new-york-times-front-page-lists-1000-coronavirus-deaths-e2-80-94-just-1-25-of-the-total-us-death-toll/ar-BB14vyue?ocid=uxbndlbing)

I wonder how many lives could have been saved if they were cared for in the Navy Ship COMFORT or the JAVITS Center where there were thousands of beds fully equipped and staffed that were hardly used? Truly a
New York and New Jersey Tragedy. The States with the most restrictions on life seem to be the States with the most deaths. We were in The Villages for 4 months and came home stopping in South Carolina for two weeks. It feels like we are living in a different Country, not a different State. ThIs Learned Behavior is still taking its toll and there appears to be no End in sight with as expected no help from the NT Times.

[JimJohnson]

How do you really know we have the most cases in the world? Do you think China, Russia etc have accurately reported their actual cases? Don't compare our reaction to the Virus with a third world country like Brazil, and don't start with the politics. THE BLAME GAME DOESN'T WORK.
You also have to consider our size compared to many of the other countries- Italy, Spain, France etc.

We must recognize the mistakes made by the slow walking this horrible virus. It’s not blame, it’s preparation for the next time.

[GoodLife]

I will never be able to understand why people try to put a political slant on a situation where almost everyone is peddling as best they can. Why people blame the deaths on this or that, or change the subject into elaborate conspiracies. I do not know why people follow the direction of any politician who is not following the direction of good medical science. I will never be able to understand why people do not see that the repercussions of this novel virus will devastate the economy of the world although I do not believe that it was engineered or planned to do so. I don't want to influence anyone in how they live and the choices they make. I do believe that the demographics of The Villages put a target on our backs. I also believe that almost every single person who lives here not only realizes the effect on business here and everywhere and cares about the business here and everywhere. We all have lived long enough to know what will happen. And I believe most people care deeply about business AND the health of their peers.

It is my opinion that many governors, no matter which side of the aisle they sit on have tried to protect lives. I commend both Mike DeWine and Governor Cuomo. Ditto others on both sides of the aisle. They are working with statistics that are incomplete. ALL have made mistakes.

The very nature of the NYT article is political, a dramatic list of 1000 dead filling a page. Everybody knows the death totals, everyone knows the score. We also know that New York had a law that forced nursing homes to take covid 19 positives which resulted in 1000s of deaths. It's political why they did not choose to print that list.

PS The NYT made it to the 6th name on the list before they posted a fake covid 19 death. That guy was murdered, but since he tested positive they counted it as a covid 19 death. I think they have since editied his name from the list.

[Aces4]

We must recognize the mistakes made by the slow walking this horrible virus. It’s not blame, it’s preparation for the next time.

Good point but how is China to be harnessed to provide actual facts vs the information they provided to the world? I know the USA and other countries of the world would have reached out readily to provide any assistance to contain this virus promptly. Unfortunately, China, refused any scientific assistance the USA wanted to provide.

[villagerjack]

I haven’t heard any medical advice from any politician who does not have sound medical science from the best professionals out there. Would you please share with us who this would be?

Some say one may be the Governor of NY ( and NJ) who placed the elderly stricken in Nursing Homes Where They died instead of the Naval ship COMFORT and the JAVITS Center. These Fully staffed and equipped hospitals were originally set up to care for non COVID patients so the local hospitals could be utilized for Covid patients. Later both Governors requested and received permission to use both facilities for Covid patients however both facilities were hardly utilized to the amazement of many. JAVITS Was closed down and the COMFORT returned to its home base. The cost of this

Perhaps not well known outside of New York and New Jersey is the fact that a huge number of these nursing homes are owned by the Jewish ultra orthodox who are huge supporters of the current governor of New York as they were for his father The former governor. I have not read the New York Times article and I would be very surprised if they connected these dots. This cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars and there is still no answer as to why the two governors failed to utilize these facilities

My comments should not be deemed political but merely a reflection of the facts as they exist.

[Bogie Shooter]

Some say one may be the Governor of NY ( and NJ) who placed the elderly stricken in Nursing Homes Where They died instead of the Naval ship COMFORT and the JAVITS Center. These Fully staffed and equipped hospitals were originally set up to care for non COVID patients so the local hospitals could be utilized for Covid patients. Later both Governors requested and received permission to use both facilities for Covid patients however both facilities were hardly utilized to the amazement of many. JAVITS Was closed down and the COMFORT returned to its home base. The cost of this

Perhaps not well known outside of New York and New Jersey is the fact that a huge number of these nursing homes are owned by the Jewish ultra orthodox who are huge supporters of the current governor of New York as they were for his father The former governor. I have not read the New York Times article and I would be very surprised if they connected these dots. This cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars and there is still no answer as to why the two governors failed to utilize these facilities

My comments should not be deemed political but merely a reflection of the facts as they exist.

Really.....

[graciegirl]

The very nature of the NYT article is political, a dramatic list of 1000 dead filling a page. Everybody knows the death totals, everyone knows the score. We also know that New York had a law that forced nursing homes to take covid 19 positives which resulted in 1000s of deaths. It's political why they did not choose to print that list.

PS The NYT made it to the 6th name on the list before they posted a fake covid 19 death. That guy was murdered, but since he tested positive they counted it as a covid 19 death. I think they have since editied his name from the list.

The list to me shows that many real people died recently as a result of this novel virus. It shows that most of them were older. It shows that they were alive in March. It casts no blame, and makes no claims. It gives their age, and a couple of words about them.

Real people died. I hope soon someone figures out something to protect more vulnerable people from dying. I really hope that happens. Then we can see if people choose to use the tools are not. People never cease to amaze me.

I used the names of two governors who represented both parties. I certainly do not agree with their politics at all times. I think that every single human was and is flying by the seat of their pants when it comes to this very real danger. I am a registered Republican. I have loved friends and family member who are registered Democrats. We cannot vilify or deify people based on how they vote. There are some mighty dumb people on both sides of the aisle.

Day before yesterday, a friend in Ohio who was 81 died of Covid-19. Today his wife has it. They are/were registered Republicans. But how they voted is not what people are thinking and feeling right now who know that family.

[gatorbill1]

The list to me shows that many real people died recently as a result of this novel virus. It shows that most of them were older. It shows that they were alive in March. It casts no blame, and makes no claims. It gives their age, and a couple of words about them.

Real people died. I hope soon someone figures out something to protect more vulnerable people from dying. I really hope that happens. Then we can see if people choose to use the tools are not. People never cease to amaze me.

I used the names of two governors who represented both parties. I certainly do not agree with their politics at all times. I think that every single human was and is flying by the seat of their pants when it comes to this very real danger. I am a registered Republican. I have loved friends and family member who are registered Democrats. We cannot vilify or deify people based on how they vote. There are some mighty dumb people on both sides of the aisle.

Day before yesterday, a friend in Ohio who was 81 died of Covid-19. Today his wife has it. They are/were registered Republicans. But how they voted is not what people are thinking and feeling right now who know that family.

I am with you, maybe not political party, but definitely thoughts

[JimJohnson]

Good point but how is China to be harnessed to provide actual facts vs the information they provided to the world? I know the USA and other countries of the world would have reached out readily to provide any assistance to contain this virus promptly. Unfortunately, China, refused any scientific assistance the USA wanted to provide.

U.S. intelligence was acquiring data and other information about Covid 19 and its possible pandemic effect in early January. Both China and the US were attempting to down play the seriousness of the virus, but the medical and scientific folks on both sides of the pond would not be silent. This is a global problem not a them versus us.

[GoodLife]

U.S. intelligence was acquiring data and other information about Covid 19 and its possible pandemic effect in early January. Both China and the US were attempting to down play the seriousness of the virus, but the medical and scientific folks on both sides of the pond would not be silent. This is a global problem not a them versus us.

I'll take rewriting history for $1000 Alex

On January 21st Dr Fauci said “Americans Don't Need To Worry About Coronavirus:


Dr. Fauci said on February 8th: 'Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low': There is no reason to wear a mask

Dr. Anthony Fauci on February 29th tells the Today Show that there is NO NEED for the public to change their behavior over concern for Coronavirus:

On March 9th, Dr. Anthony Fauci recommends taking a cruise, tells Forbes Magazine that if you’re healthy, cruise ships are safe:

[graciegirl]

I haven’t heard any medical advice from any politician who does not have sound medical science from the best professionals out there. Would you please share with us who this would be?

Perhaps I should have said that I think people who are in government office and who are making decisions should seek and follow medical advice from the people who are qualified to give medical advice on the subject of communicable diseases and have a solid curriculum vitae in that area.

I also wish that people would not deify or vilify medical experts who are trying to stay abreast of statistics and lack of them.

[Aces4]

U.S. intelligence was acquiring data and other information about Covid 19 and its possible pandemic effect in early January. Both China and the US were attempting to down play the seriousness of the virus, but the medical and scientific folks on both sides of the pond would not be silent. This is a global problem not a them versus us.

The USA closely studied and worked to pursue the ramifications of this virus with the info they garnered and exactly what the world was dealing with as it evolved. To think otherwise is foolish in that there was no desire anywhere to ignore it and create a pandemic, other than China. Of course, the armchair quarterbacks had all of the answers already in October of 2019.

[Aces4]

Perhaps I should have said that I think people who are in government office and who are making decisions should seek and follow medical advice from the people who are qualified to give medical advice on the subject of communicable diseases and have a solid curriculum vitae in that area.

I also wish that people would not deify or vilify medical experts who are trying to stay abreast of statistics and lack of them.

Who has been proven not to “FOLLOW” evolving medical advice? We are currently witnessing an often belligerent public saying enough already. They can’t live without income and in constant isolation. We have, in our home because of our age, continued to isolate and pray for a vaccine soon.

There is a smaller risk for the under 60 crowd and most of them are willing to take it. There is currently a 43 year old RN who was in extremely critical condition who is beginning to turn the corner into recovery. She was administered hydroxychloroquine and covid blood plasma. The medical community is waiting for the final assessments on this virus and must work within the realms of current data and potential effectiveness. We don’t know everything there is to know about this virus at this point. Btw, covid plasma is in short supply.

[Velvet]

I just couldn’t read it after the first few names... just too painful.

[graciegirl]

I'll take rewriting history for $1000 Alex

On January 21st Dr Fauci said “Americans Don't Need To Worry About Coronavirus:


Dr. Fauci said on February 8th: 'Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low': There is no reason to wear a mask

Dr. Anthony Fauci on February 29th tells the Today Show that there is NO NEED for the public to change their behavior over concern for Coronavirus:

On March 9th, Dr. Anthony Fauci recommends taking a cruise, tells Forbes Magazine that if you’re healthy, cruise ships are safe:

On those dates, almost everyone was in the dark. That was when they were putting bodies on the street in Italy. Some blame China for not sharing accurate information. I think that after a year or two years when we can get statistics we can trust about the rate of infection and death, the risk of contagion and the attributes of the virus itself to cause illness, we will all be able to expound on the answers. I am very glad I wasn't in the hot seat. I have heard many, many, outrageous and ridiculous things by those in charge and those in the cheap seats. I cannot tell you how many of my friends said to take an elderberry substance and have more faith in the Lord. Who knows, they may be right.

[davem4616]

IMHO I sense that the Publisher and the Editors of the NYT have completely lost their compass and have morphed into a "Jingo Press"

[Velvet]

IMHO I sense that the Publisher and the Editors of the NYT have completely lost their compass and have morphed into a "Jingo Press"

And? Given these times I don’t see the problem.

[villagerjack]

Really.....

Yes REALLY. The ultra Orthodox were also responsible for the spread of measles last year in Rockland and Orange Counties in NY. They refuse to be vaccinated and the cases were traced specifically to their segregated (Whites, Blacks, Hispanic etc. Christians prohibited) enclaves. Rockland County fought heroically against a non interested Governor. These are the FACTS...Read up on Kyrias Joel and New Square if you dare. The NY Times accused Rocklanders of being Anti Semitic for pointing this out even though we are the smallest a County in NYS we had the largest population of measles infections in the whole of the United States. A COVED Vaccine will mean nothing to these People-since take will not take it.

[villagerjack]

I just couldn’t read it after the first few names... just too painful.

And Avoidable had Cuomo Used the COMFORT and JAVITS.

[GoodLife]

On those dates, almost everyone was in the dark. That was when they were putting bodies on the street in Italy. Some blame China for not sharing accurate information. I think that after a year or two years when we can get statistics we can trust about the rate of infection and death, the risk of contagion and the attributes of the virus itself to cause illness, we will all be able to expound on the answers. I am very glad I wasn't in the hot seat. I have heard many, many, outrageous and ridiculous things by those in charge and those in the cheap seats. I cannot tell you how many of my friends said to take an elderberry substance and have more faith in the Lord. Who knows, they may be right.

Daily Double bells ring

Jan 20 China finally tells world virus is infectious person to person spread

[JimJohnson]

Daily Double bells ring

Jan 20 China finally tells world virus is infectious person to person spread

And yet it took till March to inform the American public. SAD.

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes REALLY. The ultra Orthodox were also responsible for the spread of measles last year in Rockland and Orange Counties in NY. They refuse to be vaccinated and the cases were traced specifically to their segregated (Whites, Blacks, Hispanic etc. Christians prohibited) enclaves. Rockland County fought heroically against a non interested Governor. These are the FACTS...Read up on Kyriad Joel and New Square if you dare. The NY Times accused Rocklanders of being Anti Semitic for pointing this out even though we are the smallest a County in NYS we had the largest population of measles infections in the whole of the United States. A COVED Vaccine will mean nothing to these People-since take will not take it.

Oops...….

[GoodLife]

And yet it took till March to inform the American public. SAD.

Double Jeopardy begins, all prizes are doubled

human to human transmission confirmed by china - bing search

40,100,000 results

human to human transmission confirmed by china - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=human+to+human+transmission+confirmed+by+ china&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=d92d6b8dba734301ba695a26699b17ce&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdngYZ4wg59AOamc5GU60phAWdb BJFpb7WWEhOAMl7TqLdv8N*gFgOC6cjSKbSg1KDne6n420qf4j 9xlsTems6Tbu&plvar=0)

[Aces4]

And yet it took till March to inform the American public. SAD.

Wrong. Where and what were people doing that they didn’t hear about this until March? We had a discussion with a RN in early February regarding covid. Why was travel from China halted in January? I realize it works to some individuals advantage to be obtuse to the news but it was out there. We must move in some very intellectual circles because people were discussing how this virus would impact the stock market already in January.

[graciegirl]

Wrong. Where and what were people doing that they didn’t hear about this until March? We had a discussion with a RN in early February regarding covid. Why was travel from China halted in January? I realize it works to some individuals advantage to be obtuse to the news but it was out there. We must move in some very intellectual circles because people were discussing how this virus would impact the stock market already in January.

Sometime the week of March 12th is when air travel was stopped between here and the European continent. Our daughter had flown back to London on the ninth of March and I was very worried about her catching it on the plane.

[Aces4]

Sometime the week of March 12th is when air travel was stopped between here and the European continent. Our daughter had flown back to London on the ninth of March and I was very worried about her catching it on the plane.

Thank you for clarifying that people were well aware of the virus prior to March. I can understand your concern when your daughter opted to fly to London even though we were being advised of it beginning to gain ground in Europe. Thankfully, she was spared contagion.

[JimJohnson]

Wrong. Where and what were people doing that they didn’t hear about this until March? We had a discussion with a RN in early February regarding covid. Why was travel from China halted in January? I realize it works to some individuals advantage to be obtuse to the news but it was out there. We must move in some very intellectual circles because people were discussing how this virus would impact the stock market already in January.

Your correct, but my point is that until late in March, the virus would be a nothing burger, only 15 cases that would go from a dozen cases to zero real soon, then it became common news that it was a very serious problem. Denial in January and February caused us to lose thousands of lives. I’m not placing blame, but pleading for us to be honest and transparent so we don’t miss the signals next tine. PLEASE!

[davem4616]

And? Given these times I don’t see the problem.

actually there in lies the problem...apathy

just saying

[Velvet]

I did not make myself clear in my response to “Jingo press”. I don’t advocate apathy at all. Jingo often refers to “A vociferous supporter of policy favouring war, especially in the name of patriotism”. And I took it to mean the response to the war with this virus as NYT was listing the names of Americans killed by Covid

[graciegirl]

Double Jeopardy begins, all prizes are doubled

human to human transmission confirmed by china - bing search

40,100,000 results

human to human transmission confirmed by china - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=human+to+human+transmission+confirmed+by+ china&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=d92d6b8dba734301ba695a26699b17ce&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AQj93OAhDTi*HzTv1paQdngYZ4wg59AOamc5GU60phAWdb BJFpb7WWEhOAMl7TqLdv8N*gFgOC6cjSKbSg1KDne6n420qf4j 9xlsTems6Tbu&plvar=0)

This isn't a contest. It is a discussion.

[mamamia54]

Some say one may be the Governor of NY ( and NJ) who placed the elderly stricken in Nursing Homes Where They died instead of the Naval ship COMFORT and the JAVITS Center. These Fully staffed and equipped hospitals were originally set up to care for non COVID patients so the local hospitals could be utilized for Covid patients. Later both Governors requested and received permission to use both facilities for Covid patients however both facilities were hardly utilized to the amazement of many. JAVITS Was closed down and the COMFORT returned to its home base. The cost of this

Perhaps not well known outside of New York and New Jersey is the fact that a huge number of these nursing homes are owned by the Jewish ultra orthodox who are huge supporters of the current governor of New York as they were for his father The former governor. I have not read the New York Times article and I would be very surprised if they connected these dots. This cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars and there is still no answer as to why the two governors failed to utilize these facilities

My comments should not be deemed political but merely a reflection of the facts as they exist.

Exactly! You are right. Cuomo sent them to nursing homes because,
like many other politicians, he wants their block vote. I never heard of a law stating they had to go to nursing homes. As far as I know he made that decision and now he is trying to blame others.

[Aces4]

Your correct, but my point is that until late in March, the virus would be a nothing burger, only 15 cases that would go from a dozen cases to zero real soon, then it became common news that it was a very serious problem. Denial in January and February caused us to lose thousands of lives. I’m not placing blame, but pleading for us to be honest and transparent so we don’t miss the signals next tine. PLEASE!

Which is what I stated earlier, if only China hadn’t lied and would have been forthcoming allowing our scientists early access to help rather than banning them from assisting.

I think it’s an insult to the brilliant scientists and doctors who worked feverishly to understand/analyze this damn virus to say they were in denial. I thank God for their brilliance and dedication to the people of this nation even if they didn’t have a crystal ball or armchair quarterbacks who knew everything about this virus immediately.

[Northwoods]

20/20 hindsight is such a convenient perspective. I agree we should learn from this so that we are better prepared the next time. The political finger-pointing is juvenile and non-productive.

[B767drvr]

I will never be able to understand why people try to put a political slant on a situation where almost everyone is peddling as best they can. Why people blame the deaths on this or that, or change the subject into elaborate conspiracies. I do not know why people follow the direction of any politician who is not following the direction of good medical science. I will never be able to understand why people do not see that the repercussions of this novel virus will devastate the economy of the world although I do not believe that it was engineered or planned to do so. I don't want to influence anyone in how they live and the choices they make. I do believe that the demographics of The Villages put a target on our backs. I also believe that almost every single person who lives here not only realizes the effect on business here and everywhere and cares about the business here and everywhere. We all have lived long enough to know what will happen. And I believe most people care deeply about business AND the health of their peers.

It is my opinion that many governors, no matter which side of the aisle they sit on have tried to protect lives. I commend both Mike DeWine and Governor Cuomo. Ditto others on both sides of the aisle. They are working with statistics that are incomplete. ALL have made mistakes.

Hmmm... I read an article recently explaining various people's positions on the lockdown and how they "coincidentally" aligned with their life's beliefs. You might be surprised to learn where your beliefs lie. Your proclaimed "voting" position does not appear to align with your "life beliefs" in my opinion. The author believed we are born pre-wired for viewing the world a certain way. I agree with the author. If interested, I'm sure you can find the article.

[graciegirl]

Hmmm... I read an article recently explaining various people's positions on the lockdown and how they "coincidentally" aligned with their life's beliefs. You might be surprised to learn where your beliefs lie. Your proclaimed "voting" position does not appear to align with your "life beliefs" in my opinion. The author believed we are born pre-wired for viewing the world a certain way. I agree with the author. If interested, I'm sure you can find the article.

Many people shuffle their value list in the face of a life threatening situation. Some people when faced with a terrible truth will minimize it, some will blame situations or people, some will be depressed, some will try to find some logic or a group of beliefs to hold on to.

I think a lot of how we respond to things IS prewired. That genetically all of our lives we either get mad fast, or overthink things or worry a lot or just keep plugging..

Instinct makes us protect our selves and our kin first. Humans indeed are very complex.

I most likely will vote the same way I did last time, but again like last time, I wish I had someone to vote for that I had more faith in.

[B767drvr]

Many people shuffle their value list in the face of a life threatening situation. Some people when faced with a terrible truth will minimize it, some will blame situations or people, some will be depressed, some will try to find some logic or a group of beliefs to hold on to.

I think a lot of how we respond to things IS prewired. That genetically all of our lives we either get mad fast, or overthink things or worry a lot or just keep plugging..

Instinct makes us protect our selves and our kin first. Humans indeed are very complex.

I most likely will vote the same way I did last time, but again like last time, I wish I had someone to vote for that I had more faith in.

I agree with all you said. Nice post.

[Lindsyburnsy]

100,000 deaths whether you have a million or a trillion people In your country is significant and these are people who had loved ones who are grieving. No comparison or politics needed.

[GoodLife]

This isn't a contest. It is a discussion.

Yes, a discussion in which several comments try to rewrite history.

Originally Posted by JimJohnson
U.S. intelligence was acquiring data and other information about Covid 19 and its possible pandemic effect in early January. Both China and the US were attempting to down play the seriousness of the virus, but the medical and scientific folks on both sides of the pond would not be silent. This is a global problem not a them versus us.

This comment implies that governments of China and US were downplaying the seriousness, while medical/scientific were raising warning bells. So I quoted Dr Fauci

I'll take rewriting history for $1000 Alex

On January 21st Dr Fauci said “Americans Don't Need To Worry About Coronavirus:


Dr. Fauci said on February 8th: 'Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low': There is no reason to wear a mask

Dr. Anthony Fauci on February 29th tells the Today Show that there is NO NEED for the public to change their behavior over concern for Coronavirus:

On March 9th, Dr. Anthony Fauci recommends taking a cruise, tells Forbes Magazine that if you’re healthy, cruise ships are safe:

Originally Posted by graciegirl
On those dates, almost everyone was in the dark

This comment implies almost everyone was in the dark about the virus on the dates quoted, when in fact they knew it was a contagious virus spreading person to person on January 20

Originally Posted by JimJohnson
And yet it took till March to inform the American public. SAD.

This comment states unequivocally that the American public was not informed that there was a virus spreading person to person in China until March. I replied with a bing search showing 40 million results on the internet about the Chinese confirmation that virus was contagious on January 20

Discussions are fine, everyone has opinions, but that does not mean you are allowed to rewrite history.

[dillywho]

U.S. intelligence was acquiring data and other information about Covid 19 and its possible pandemic effect in early January. Both China and the US were attempting to down play the seriousness of the virus, but the medical and scientific folks on both sides of the pond would not be silent. This is a global problem not a them versus us.

Even Dr. Fauci downplayed it in the beginning. He is medical, don't forget.