No water feature in Brownwood

[Keeferinspace]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

[Stu from NYC]

This should be an interesting thread.

[John_W]

Google The Villages and look at Brownwood satellite view, it's surrounded by real water and soon the bridge over 44. Larry the Gator was national news last year when he walked around Brownwood. Get in your cart and explore. Water Fountains, that's what you want to see?

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Spanish Springs has terrible seating for the entertainment, the stage actually faces away from most of the seating. Brownwood has the grandstands and the stage is at one end, I go there for the music and the shops, not to see a water feature.

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[MSchad]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.
Our favorite is LSL, but for enjoying entertainment Brownwood is best.

[CWGUY]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

:icon_wink: Looks like the well under the windmill at Brownwood dried up...... but the watering hole on the other side of Square is going strong! :thumbup:

[billethkid]

Covid-19 cabin fever strikes again!

:sigh:

[Bogie Shooter]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

Never is a very long time.....
So many other things to see in Brownwood.....
Doubt if there were any water features in old Florida cattle towns....
Sorry you were so very disappointed.....
Doubt If many others will mention the lack of a water feature...…
A water feature?

[JoMar]

Brownwood was designed to represent the history of the Morse family's resort in Michigan, kind of a tribute to Gary and Sharon. It has meaning to the family and since they paid for it they can design as they desire. All three squares are for the enjoyment of all and since two have water features go there and enjoy them.....since not everyone here has the same tastes and needs. Won't be long you will even be able to golf cart there.

[dewilson58]

:icon_wink: Looks like the well under the windmill at Brownwood dried up...... but the watering hole on the other side of Square is going strong! :thumbup:




Well drinks are still available.

[CWGUY]

Well drinks are still available.

:1rotfl: :beer3:

[graciegirl]

Brownwood was designed to represent the history of the Morse family's resort in Michigan, kind of a tribute to Gary and Sharon. It has meaning to the family and since they paid for it they can design as they desire. All three squares are for the enjoyment of all and since two have water features go there and enjoy them.....since not everyone here has the same tastes and needs. Won't be long you will even be able to golf cart there.

JoMar is right. There is a Brownwood in Michigan, that was a business that Gary's sister Mary Lou Morse ran for years. She had bought it from hers and Gary's ancestors. This isn't a very good link, but shows the family connection. Her children are apparently still making the amazing donuts that she is famous for.

Brownwood Acres, Donuts and The House That Fell Through The Lake | Edible Grande Traverse (https://ediblegrandetraverse.ediblecommunities.com/shop/brownwood-acres-donuts-and-house-fell-through-lake)

Whether it is donuts or houses the Morses business acumen is a family trait.

[John41]

LSL and the regional rec centers near it are most attractively designed in my opinion. Especially the tour boat and the lake board walk. Citizens bank in LSL is also the classiest. Everglades rec center looks like a big barn with some pictures on the wall, very cheap looking. Brown wood, the name says it all. So dull. This is just my opinion and I respect other points of view.

[fishon]

If the lack of a water feature keeps people away, what's the downside?
When the Brownwood lofts are rented the place will be overwhelmed.

[dewilson58]

If the lack of a water feature keeps people away, what's the downside?
When the Brownwood lofts are rented the place will be overwhelmed.




200 impact to tens of thousands..............drop in the bucket.

[New Englander]

Our favorite is LSL, but for enjoying entertainment Brownwood is best.

:agree:

[New Englander]

Well drinks are still available.

Oh yes! And it's a very deep well....:a040:

[Kenswing]

Just when you think you've seen every imaginable complaint about The Villages, someone comes along and proves you wrong.. :1rotfl:

[thelegges]

LSL and the regional rec centers near it are most attractively designed in my opinion. Especially the tour boat and the lake board walk. Citizens bank in LSL is also the classiest. Everglades rec center looks like a big barn with some pictures on the wall, very cheap looking. Brown wood, the name says it all. So dull. This is just my opinion and I respect other points of view.

We are from MI. Brownwood, it’s road names, and everything about the town is special.
Since it’s family history, you have missed the point of passing on the background.
When I go to Brownwood, I can tell you where each of the named roads are in MI and where they go.

For me it’s a memory from my younger life.

[Stu from NYC]

Brownwood was designed to represent the history of the Morse family's resort in Michigan, kind of a tribute to Gary and Sharon. It has meaning to the family and since they paid for it they can design as they desire. All three squares are for the enjoyment of all and since two have water features go there and enjoy them.....since not everyone here has the same tastes and needs. Won't be long you will even be able to golf cart there.

thanks for the info

[Stu from NYC]

If the lack of a water feature keeps people away, what's the downside?
When the Brownwood lofts are rented the place will be overwhelmed.

good point

[Stu from NYC]

Just when you think you've seen every imaginable complaint about The Villages, someone comes along and proves you wrong.. :1rotfl:

So true

[TomPerry]

The OP is mistaken, Brownwood does have water features!!! The public restrooms near the Barnstorm Theater have water features!!! Hot and Cold!!!

[davem4616]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

well it's been raining pretty heavy this afternoon in TV....so if you hurry and go down there right now I'm sure that you'll find some puddles to stomp around in

(if that's all you have to complain about, you've got a pretty darn good life)

[MSchad]

Just when you think you've seen every imaginable complaint about The Villages, someone comes along and proves you wrong.. :1rotfl:
Literally laughed out loud. Thanks!!

[Jayhawk]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

You WIN !!!!

There are a lot of experts who think they know how the developers should spend their money, but not many have all the answers after being here for just a couple of months and single-digit posts.

Remarkable.

[Two Bills]

I always thought all that water at SS took up the room that could have been used better as seating area. :shrug:

[Tennisbum]

Gee, I feel bad now. I just always went there for the food, music, and shopping. Now that you mention the ARID conditions there I feel....nothing!

[Stu from NYC]

You WIN !!!!

There are a lot of experts who think they now how the developers should spend their money, but not many have all the answers after being here for just a couple of months and single-digit posts.

Remarkable.

A book is in the offing

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Maybe after they've finished replacing the rotting wood at the entry, that's only around 8 years old and should've been built to last at least 20 years - they'll give some thought into putting in a water feature. Not sure what kind of water feature you'd want to see on a ranch-themed town square though, other than maybe a pig sty with a grizzled old woman endlessly pouring slop into a corner of the sty and the ceramic piglets gathering around for their lunch.

[Hopeful2]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

Oh my! It sounds like you were remiss in checking out the neighborhood before your bought your new home. How awful! I can certainly understand why you would never take your visitors sight seeing there! :ohdear: I only wish that more people felt like you - it would help to keep the crowds away from Brownwood. :MOJE_whot:

[vintageogauge]

My only question is did you visit Paddock Square before you decided to buy a home down here? You may well be the only homeowner in TV that has complained about not having a water feature at Paddock Square but everyone has an opinion and you sure are entitle to yours.

[Debfrommaine]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.
Villagers move on an average of 3 times; consider this your first and move to where you are happy.

[Stu from NYC]

Villagers move on an average of 3 times; consider this your first and move to where you are happy.

Have heard this before and surprised given the cost of doing so.

[Debfrommaine]

It can be a money maker, we've had great luck x4.

[thelegges]

Have heard this before and surprised given the cost of doing so.

Cost of moving in TV is very low. We pack breakables, bedding, and clothes movers bundle up everything including golf cart. We are on our third house, just put a bid on the fourth. Have zero attachment to any home here.

[rde3036]

I was pretty excited when I first saw this post about a water creature in Brownwood!

[jacksonbrown]

"no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING"

If you are referring to the sales agents, they are under contract (a NDA) not to speculate about future plans.

Would they / could they, I suspect we would hear that the Katie Belle's closing is a result of the developers opening a similar venue in ..... Brownwood.

Anyway, makes sense to me as BW is now the center of The Villages.

[Stu from NYC]

Cost of moving in TV is very low. We pack breakables, bedding, and clothes movers bundle up everything including golf cart. We are on our third house, just put a bid on the fourth. Have zero attachment to any home here.

If you use a TA like most 6% per move does add up quickly/

A $ 350,000 home costs $ 21000 to TA for selling.

[thelegges]

If you use a TA like most 6% per move does add up quickly/

A $ 350,000 home costs $ 21000 to TA for selling.

Didn’t need to use anyone to sell homes, first 2 sold in 3 days, with an ad. Just use a title company. There a some who flip homes in a year or two making $100,000 and up. In our case move is to the next up grade

[Debfrommaine]

Didn’t need to use anyone to sell homes, first 2 sold in 3 days, with an ad. Just use a title company. There a some who flip homes in a year or two making $100,000 and up. In our case move is to the next up grade. Yup agree, no agent, by owner, last house couple months ago took 2.5 wks by owner. Title company is what we use.

[Stu from NYC]

Didn’t need to use anyone to sell homes, first 2 sold in 3 days, with an ad. Just use a title company. There a some who flip homes in a year or two making $100,000 and up. In our case move is to the next up grade

Interesting, seems to me though most people do use agent and that does run up the cost

[Keeferinspace]

You don’t GO to see the water feature. It’s part of the ambiance. Also, does it have to be one or other? “You have a great outdoor theatre so NO WATER FOR YOU!” Why build the Buckingham Fountain in Chicago when Lake Michigan is within eyeshot? There are beautiful ponds all over the villages but none to enjoy while dining, shopping or enjoying friends in Brownwood Paddock Square.

[Keeferinspace]

I didn’t buy my home based on the town square it was closest to. There are far more important considerations. I just think Brownwood is a bit disappointing—but with so much potential! If the Villages would consider adding such a feature would you oppose it? I support the businesses in Brownwood Paddock Square. I eat, drink and will purchase retail Items there because I want to see the businesses succeed. And in succeeding (and with the influx of more residents) perhaps we’ll see a bit of investment improving the ambiance.

[Keeferinspace]

I’d find it surprising if someone’s taste would find a water feature objectionable. It wouldn’t even have to be anything elaborate. I’ll bet the Morse family ranch had a well! It’s just a suggestion. I think it’s neat Brownwood has family significance. That makes it special. And more reason I’d like to see it at its very best.

[Keeferinspace]

:bigbow:

[Marathon Man]

This just keeps getting better.

[Keeferinspace]

:icon_wink:This just keeps getting better.

[Rwirish]

What is Lake Sumpter?

Absolutely terrible there is no water feature in Brownwood.

[Bob3302]

Seriously?????? Cheated?????

[travelinfool]

Villagers move on an average of 3 times; consider this your first and move to where you are happy.

But please just don't let then move next to me! I will not have a water feature in my yard. But I did know that when we purchased the place.:ohdear:

[Stu from NYC]

We have a small pond behind our house does that count?

[fishon]

What is Lake Sumpter?

Absolutely terrible there is no water feature in Brownwood.

There is no Lake Sumter.
It’s Cherry Lake.
Lake Sumter Landing is a name made up by the developer combining the names of Lake and Sumter counties. Similar to the community college.

[woderfulwendy1]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.
Just moved here and complaining about something you knew about before you bought and won't be changed. Please don't become another one of those "complaining old people" just enjoy your life 8n TV, or move.

[J1ceasar]

If you want a water feature go outside your home and turn on your garden hose

[Pamelah]

What does 200 to impact tens of thousands mean? 200 what?

[bonrich]

[QUOTE=Rwirish;1771254]What is Lake Sumpter?
There is no "p" in Lake Sumter.

[Pdesensi]

You do have a expensive feature at Brownwood. At the entrance at 44 there are metal castings of animals on a trail roundup, but not as close to the very small square. Operative word for this square is Small. Where would they put such a water display you would like to see it in the small area?

[vintageogauge]

You don’t GO to see the water feature. It’s part of the ambiance. Also, does it have to be one or other? “You have a great outdoor theatre so NO WATER FOR YOU!” Why build the Buckingham Fountain in Chicago when Lake Michigan is within eyeshot? There are beautiful ponds all over the villages but none to enjoy while dining, shopping or enjoying friends in Brownwood Paddock Square.

Your priorities are much different than most who live here, much different. Enjoy what is here as there is so much to enjoy. Less complaining will make your life here much more enjoyable.

[thevillager1988]

My husband is a Michigander ... and it's been easy for me to become a "Michgander by marriage". Please don't misunderstand, I am still (and always will be) a Hoosier through and through. But it's easy to enjoy the time we spend Up North each summer. Thanks for this thread and the path is has taken. We will put Brownwood Acres on the agenda for this August.

[Marvic 1]

This should be an interesting thread.

I think he's looking for one of these:

[Pamelah]

Ignore all these naysayers! Brownwood has little going for it I agree and that’s why bought near to Spanish Springs.

[Guitarman1951]

A horse watering trough!?!? Your kidding surely. A water feature? Is that all you have to complain about!?!? 😂😂😂😂

[Jayhawk]

I didn’t buy my home based on the town square it was closest to. There are far more important considerations. I just think Brownwood is a bit disappointing—but with so much potential! If the Villages would consider adding such a feature would you oppose it? I support the businesses in Brownwood Paddock Square. I eat, drink and will purchase retail Items there because I want to see the businesses succeed. And in succeeding (and with the influx of more residents) perhaps we’ll see a bit of investment improving the ambiance.

But you will NEVER bring a visitor there?

Originally Posted by Keeferinspace
So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see.

[Northerner52]

So what!

[bmit16]

This is a joke , Right?

[theruizs]

The music venue in Brownwood is the best of the three, would rather have that than the water feature in Spanish Springs and their awful seating arrangement. And the movie theater in Brownwood is also the best of the three. I guess it just depends on what you place value on.

[timburke2000]

And the public and Villagers are so much younger and alive!! :coolsmiley:

[Cranford61]

If the lack of a water feature keeps people away, what's the downside?
When the Brownwood lofts are rented the place will be overwhelmed.Not enough doggie water bowls.

[anothersteve]

There is no Lake Sumter.
It’s Cherry Lake.
Lake Sumter Landing is a name made up by the developer combining the names of Lake and Sumter counties. Similar to the community college.
...

[Keeferinspace]

What is perceived as a complaint started out as question. I see I’ve made the freshman mistake of dare questioning the status quo. As mentioned, I want Brownwood to be the very best it can be. Do you? Don’t see how inquiring about adding a calming and tranquil water feature to Brownwood is grounds for ostracizing (ok, the Wally World reference wasn’t fair). Got a good spanking for bringing this up but no one has answered the question. Why? Maybe there’s a great reason. Just curious. Thanks for all the replies. This troll will crawl back under his bridge now (maybe there’s water there). 😁

[Sbrothnj]

Not a fan of Brownwood, just saying. Dont have issues with any of the above comments, but i the old west/barnyard feel of Brownwood doesn't do it for me. If there is water all around Brownwood, I've never noticed it. I see it on the map, but its not really part of the atmosphere. And the stadium seating and western stage/pavilion has some pros, but just is not appealing. Does not compare to the charm of Sumter (speaking of water all around) or Spanish Springs. IMHO its a shame that that square will be the center of the Villages, and perhaps the focal point. I agree pretty much with John41. And that is one of many reasons I wouldnt think of moving down to the newer sections. Im halfway between Sumter and SS and love it. Im glad to read that many people love BW. Always wondered about that.
Have a great day and stay safe everyone.

[WinnieHa]

We live very close to Brownwood but have come to really enjoy all three squares for their own unique qualities. Brownwood Paddock Square is a little too Honky Tonk for me. I’m sure others love it for that very reason. But I do appreciate the music venue very much. LSL is the most impressive and I think it very charming and refined (as refined as we want to get in the Villages.) Brownwood is rowdy and uninhibited. When we pulled into The Villages via Brownwood for the very first time, I couldn’t believe the entrance display. I thought it was so cheesy. But we nevertheless found a home close to Brownwood and now I love the entrance. But I thought the same thing; LSL certainly Is more impressive and I really didn’t quite ‘get’ the Villages until we ventured outside the south end. Only my opinion; don’t shoot😂

[Jayhawk]

Not a fan of Brownwood, just saying. Dont have issues with any of the above comments, but i the old west/barnyard feel of Brownwood doesn't do it for me. If there is water all around Brownwood, I've never noticed it. I see it on the map, but its not really part of the atmosphere. And the stadium seating and western stage/pavilion has some pros, but just is not appealing. Does not compare to the charm of Sumter (speaking of water all around) or Spanish Springs. IMHO its a shame that that square will be the center of the Villages, and perhaps the focal point. I agree pretty much with John41. And that is one of many reasons I wouldnt think of moving down to the newer sections. Im halfway between Sumter and SS and love it. Im glad to read that many people love BW. Always wondered about that.
Have a great day and stay safe everyone.


That's why there are 31 flavors. Something for everyone.

[John_W]

I only go to the squares for two reasons, the movie theaters, of which I like LSL best and the music, especially if the Hooligans, Spanzmatics or Uncle Bob are playing. I like to rock. To me it's a no brainer, Brownwood is best, LSL is second, and SS I quit going. I only take guests to the squares when there is music, so the music is the show.

Spanish Springs trying to see the band, the band faces the other way. Not a good setup...boring.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3f/b5/2b/3fb52bb0f69713d264fffc86cd568b46.jpg

Lake Sumter Landing, a fun spot for everyone.

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Brownwood, this is where Villagers go to have fun, it's got it all. I've been to so many packed shows I've lost track.

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[Lottoguy]

Damn, you got way to much time on your hands to complain about something like this. BTW they do have drinking fountains inside the movie theater in Brownwood. So that counts....

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Everyone is entitled to there opinion , but not ever taking any visitors to Brown wood is pretty ridiculous, you can go from burgers to blue fin , something for everyone, we all have favorite squares but most of us spend time in all of them , FYI right behind the sales office 5 minute walk from Brownwood center on cart trail is beautiful water setting on both side of trail the kids love looking for a gator or other birds , you can get there faster then there ice cream melts in the Florida sun

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

It’s true about moving 3 times and some like me 5, I sold furniture with homes easy to move fun to start again. Profit wasn’t the big reason but always made some and sometimes more then some

[theruizs]

TOTV can be a very helpful and enjoyable forum, but with any social media comes the trolls, the unhappy nomatterwhats, the alwaysangrys, the see-how-clever-I-ams, etc. Not sure what is not right in their lives but if you can learn to just ignore those replies there are many others who are helpful, kind, and enjoy an open discussion.

[graciegirl]

What is perceived as a complaint started out as question. I see I’ve made the freshman mistake of dare questioning the status quo. As mentioned, I want Brownwood to be the very best it can be. Do you? Don’t see how inquiring about adding a calming and tranquil water feature to Brownwood is grounds for ostracizing (ok, the Wally World reference wasn’t fair). Got a good spanking for bringing this up but no one has answered the question. Why? Maybe there’s a great reason. Just curious. Thanks for all the replies. This troll will crawl back under his bridge now (maybe there’s water there). 😁

The answer is that The Villages is a CDD. We do not take up a petition and change things. This is not like Orlando where you vote a mayor in or out. This is a large and well run development established and organized and maintained by the developer. Most of us are rather glad of that. We are glad that new folks can't vote in a little of this or a change in that not only because most of us think it is dandy the way it is, but also all the changes cost money. There are many who when it's cold for a few weeks want some indoor pools, there are those who want to take out the traffic circles and many other suggestions that would possibly make things nice, but cost all of us, because we are the people who will pay for the changes. There is a workshop offered every few weeks in ordinary times for people that explain just how things work in a CDD. It is most enlightening.

[Stu from NYC]

The answer is that The Villages is a CDD. We do not take up a petition and change things. This is not like Orlando where you vote a mayor in or out. This is a large and well run development established and organized and maintained by the developer. Most of us are rather glad of that. We are glad that new folks can't vote in a little of this or a change in that not only because most of us think it is dandy the way it is, but also all the changes cost money. There are many who when it's cold for a few weeks want some indoor pools, there are those who want to take out the traffic circles and many other suggestions that would possibly make things nice, but cost all of us, because we are the people who will pay for the changes. There is a workshop offered every few weeks in ordinary times for people that explain just how things work in a CDD. It is most enlightening.

We are new and have a lot to learn and cant wait to go to one of these workshops

[PugMom]

Google The Villages and look at Brownwood satellite view, it's surrounded by real water and soon the bridge over 44. Larry the Gator was national news last year when he walked around Brownwood. Get in your cart and explore. Water Fountains, that's what you want to see?

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/100092934_1630781573753035_3052174515552387072_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=AGdoBx0smwIAX-boZre&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=319e3bb767bf50d59801f291aead120f&oe=5EF0B95C

Spanish Springs has terrible seating for the entertainment, the stage actually faces away from most of the seating. Brownwood has the grandstands and the stage is at one end, I go there for the music and the shops, not to see a water feature.

https://www.lakeandsumterstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DSC_5014.jpg

Larry!!!!!!!!!:coolsmiley:

[PugMom]

JoMar is right. There is a Brownwood in Michigan, that was a business that Gary's sister Mary Lou Morse ran for years. She had bought it from hers and Gary's ancestors. This isn't a very good link, but shows the family connection. Her children are apparently still making the amazing donuts that she is famous for.

Brownwood Acres, Donuts and The House That Fell Through The Lake | Edible Grande Traverse (https://ediblegrandetraverse.ediblecommunities.com/shop/brownwood-acres-donuts-and-house-fell-through-lake)

Whether it is donuts or houses the Morses business acumen is a family trait.

THX for sharing!!!! i had no idea, am still learning new things about this wonderful experience we call the Villages.:ho:

[Bogie Shooter]

What is perceived as a complaint started out as question. I see I’ve made the freshman mistake of dare questioning the status quo. As mentioned, I want Brownwood to be the very best it can be. Do you? Don’t see how inquiring about adding a calming and tranquil water feature to Brownwood is grounds for ostracizing (ok, the Wally World reference wasn’t fair). Got a good spanking for bringing this up but no one has answered the question. Why? Maybe there’s a great reason. Just curious. Thanks for all the replies. This troll will crawl back under his bridge now (maybe there’s water there). 😁

Perhaps you should go back and reread your OP.....slowly. No perception it was a complaint - it was stated as a complaint which left it open for just the kind of replies the post received.
For example:

-So very disappointed
-watering trough for horses?
-will never take visitors there
-Brownwood by Wally World
-didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to
-no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING.
-feeling a little cheated in this regard

[Marathon Man]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

What is perceived as a complaint started out as question. I see I’ve made the freshman mistake of dare questioning the status quo. As mentioned, I want Brownwood to be the very best it can be. Do you? Don’t see how inquiring about adding a calming and tranquil water feature to Brownwood is grounds for ostracizing (ok, the Wally World reference wasn’t fair). Got a good spanking for bringing this up but no one has answered the question. Why? Maybe there’s a great reason. Just curious. Thanks for all the replies. This troll will crawl back under his bridge now (maybe there’s water there). 😁

Perceived as a complaint because it certainly seems to be one.

[Bethwill]

I don't get that LSL lake is a water feature. Many lakes at Brownwood anyway. Never even noticed.

[dougawhite]

We are new and have a lot to learn and cant wait to go to one of these workshops

There is a fabulous series of videos describing the design and showing the construction of Brownwood on The Villages YouTube channel. Here's a link to one of the earliest ones:
Brownwood Update September 2011 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/7oJeNoJUcvM)

[DON10E]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

Please’ forgive my ignorance, but what is a water feature? Are you looking for a trough to water your horses? I must be missing something...

[dewilson58]

Please’ forgive my ignorance, but what is a water feature? Are you looking for a trough to water your horses? I must be missing something...


neigh

[Stu from NYC]

Please’ forgive my ignorance, but what is a water feature? Are you looking for a trough to water your horses? I must be missing something...

How many troughs would one need to water a quarter horse?

[MollyJo]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.
Water features are not for everyone. All my mind sees are hundreds of Alligators & Snakes.

[twoplanekid]

The answer is that The Villages is a CDD. We do not take up a petition and change things. This is not like Orlando where you vote a mayor in or out. This is a large and well run development established and organized and maintained by the developer. Most of us are rather glad of that. We are glad that new folks can't vote in a little of this or a change in that not only because most of us think it is dandy the way it is, but also all the changes cost money. There are many who when it's cold for a few weeks want some indoor pools, there are those who want to take out the traffic circles and many other suggestions that would possibly make things nice, but cost all of us, because we are the people who will pay for the changes. There is a workshop offered every few weeks in ordinary times for people that explain just how things work in a CDD. It is most enlightening.

I would say to that both yes and no. All residential CDDs are or will eventually be run by local elected officials. NSCUDD is run by elected officials of whom I am one of seven on this board. Now, the three commercials CDDs are managed by developer appointed supervisors as only the developer owns the land in those three. As some of the District staff is hired by one of the commercial CDDs, they have a fine line to tread between interests of the different parties. Without Developer support or approval, it’s hard to accomplish much.

[Stu from NYC]

Perhaps you should go back and reread your OP.....slowly. No perception it was a complaint - it was stated as a complaint which left it open for just the kind of replies the post received.
For example:

-So very disappointed
-watering trough for horses?
-will never take visitors there
-Brownwood by Wally World
-didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to
-no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING.
-feeling a little cheated in this regard

thanks for what you sent me

[jimlambert]

Won’t be long?? Yeah right!

[Barborv]

I'm just wondering down the line( way down the line) if they will ever consider building another square way down North. From the maps and green areas , looks like eventually a lot more homes.

[donaviv]

In regard to Brownwood discussion......there will be no room for a water feature after the apartment villagers are unleashed.... someone told me several hundred apartments. The


n Fenney....etc. It is still very nice with excellent stores! Also...terribly disappointed at loss of Katie Belles'... this is a great feature of the Villages. It used to be PRIVATE for only village residents and their guests. Now...NO WHERE to go indoor dancing and dining! The original Swartz family is spinning!! Also...no news for EMPTY Hacienda restaurant! By the way.. a EXCELLENT place for a night club atmosphere for Villagers...drinking,dancing and buying snacks. I would PAY for that...but..I do love the Villages life!!! Just.... hate to lose those 2 enhancements of quality life! (From the OTHER side!)....Vivienne Reid

[Kthack]

Seriously? Brownwood has the most beautiful life size bronze statues anywhere! Folks are always stopping and taking pictures with them. I guess sometimes you can’t see the forest for the trees!🙁

[photo1902]

Seriously? Brownwood has the most beautiful life size bronze statues anywhere! Folks are always stopping and taking pictures with them. I guess sometimes you can’t see the forest for the trees!🙁

It’s a shame people can’t appreciate what they have.

[nevjudbaker]

Each square is suppose to have their own unique style. Brownwood is western. I love walking around Brownwood seeing the unique western buildings, with western benches and other western accessories. The only thing you may not see is a water trough. Watch a western. Not many water troughs in them unless someone is thrown in one.
Once the black private fencing is taken down you can drive by The Lofts. The landscaping is going to be beautiful with a large body of water along side of The Lofts.
Everyone can't be pleased but I think a majority of us are pleased with Brownwood.
That is the beauty of 3 squares you can go to the one you prefer. Wait a few years and the 4th square will be built.
Actually I wish they had a western looking telegraph office which would actually be a satellite post office. They have a machine scale where you can mail packages, buy stamps & purchase boxes & etc. Have a Fed EX drop off & a UPS drop off. The UPS store on Burnsed is the busiest store in the area.
Every Western town has a Country Store. One of the building's could be a WAWA type store to pick up Milk, bread, butter, beer, sodas & munchies.
Those type stores may also bring more people shopping to the square. It would help the 200 some people that will be living at The Lofts.

[cathy34787]

JoMar is right. There is a Brownwood in Michigan, that was a business that Gary's sister Mary Lou Morse ran for years. She had bought it from hers and Gary's ancestors. This isn't a very good link, but shows the family connection. Her children are apparently still making the amazing donuts that she is famous for.

Brownwood Acres, Donuts and The House That Fell Through The Lake | Edible Grande Traverse (https://ediblegrandetraverse.ediblecommunities.com/shop/brownwood-acres-donuts-and-house-fell-through-lake)

Whether it is donuts or houses the Morses business acumen is a family trait.
Very interesting story. It’s in their blood.

[Stu from NYC]

I'm just wondering down the line( way down the line) if they will ever consider building another square way down North. From the maps and green areas , looks like eventually a lot more homes.

How can they not build another one? What are they waiting for? If you live in Feeney long drive to get to an existing one

[Topspinmo]

200 impact to tens of thousands..............drop in the bucket.

So, you think that will be the only lofts?:1rotfl:

[npwalters]

Google The Villages and look at Brownwood satellite view, it's surrounded by real water and soon the bridge over 44. Larry the Gator was national news last year when he walked around Brownwood. Get in your cart and explore. Water Fountains, that's what you want to see?

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/100092934_1630781573753035_3052174515552387072_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=AGdoBx0smwIAX-boZre&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=319e3bb767bf50d59801f291aead120f&oe=5EF0B95C

Spanish Springs has terrible seating for the entertainment, the stage actually faces away from most of the seating. Brownwood has the grandstands and the stage is at one end, I go there for the music and the shops, not to see a water feature.

https://www.lakeandsumterstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DSC_5014.jpg

I like the look of both SS and LS but have to agree the seating for the stage and music - most important factor for me - is much better at Brownwood.

[thelegges]

Interesting, seems to me though most people do use agent and that does run up the cost

Those who have moved multiple times usually is a diy project. Selling here is so quick, we always buy next house, the put other up for sale.

Usually those who use an agent are out of state, and can’t be here to complete transactions.

However for those making $100,00 to $200,000 from original purchase price, $20,000 is a drop in the bucket

[vintageogauge]

How can they not build another one? What are they waiting for? If you live in Feeney long drive to get to an existing one

Why would you say that, it is less than 5 miles from Fenney to Paddock Square. That is by no means a long drive, if you take the shortcut once you leave Fenney you have one stop sign and one stop light, very quick run.

[Stu from NYC]

Why would you say that, it is less than 5 miles from Fenney to Paddock Square. That is by no means a long drive, if you take the shortcut once you leave Fenney you have one stop sign and one stop light, very quick run.

I thought it was a lot further

[deebrock]

Really wow. This is a first. A horse trough. please tell me this is a joke and you have much more to worry about.

[600th Photo Sq]

So very disappointed Brownwood has no water feature of any kind. Not even a watering trough for horses?! Recently purchased in Marsh Bend but will never take visitors there to site see. Spanish springs designed by Universal Studios. Lake Sumpter by Disney. Brownwood by Wally World? It’s as if Brownwood didn’t try harder because it didn’t have to. Are there plans in the works? Of course, no one working for the Villages ever knows ANYTHING. I just hope enough people mention it and that word somehow gets to the decision makers. Can’t we get a water feature in Brownwood Paddock square on par with Spanish Springs for example? Love the Villages but feeling a little cheated in this regard.

Amazon has small portable water falls incased in plexiglass, various sizes, battery operated. Different colors as well.

Some are actually small enough to take with you, set it down next to you and enjoy.

Meanwhile others will get that same soothing feeling that you will be having. Enjoy :)

[Rodneysblue]

Oh my! It sounds like you were remiss in checking out the neighborhood before your bought your new home. How awful! I can certainly understand why you would never take your visitors sight seeing there! :ohdear: I only wish that more people felt like you - it would help to keep the crowds away from Brownwood. :MOJE_whot:
So say we all!

[Bogie Shooter]

How can they not build another one? What are they waiting for? If you live in Feeney long drive to get to an existing one

Do you live down there?

[photo1902]

Do you live down there?

Can anyone live in “Feeney”? :bigbow:

[Stu from NYC]

Do you live down there?

Bonita. Our house in Va sold much faster than we thought and did not have time to build one and when we went to Feeney thought it was too far away from the earlier Villages.

[dewilson58]

So, you think that will be the only lofts?:1rotfl:


not if they are successful.



(you had to dig a deep into the thread to pull my post, i'm flattered)

[tvbound]

Bonita. Our house in Va sold much faster than we thought and did not have time to build one and when we went to Feeney thought it was too far away from the earlier Villages.

In our ramblings while renting, we pretty quickly decided that anything at minimum of a couple of miles north of Brownwood would be out of the question for us.

But that's just our preference and obviously, there's lots of people who don't mind even being south of the toll road, with no current golf cart access to the rest of The Villages (or a real golf course for that matter).

[Nell57]

I always take guests to see the bronze cattle and horses at the entrance to Brownwood. It is a great place to pose for pictures, and unique to Brownwood. I really appreciate the diversity of the 3 squares, and enjoy showing the different flavor of each to my friends

[HoosierPa]

Wow. Never will take guests there ? Life is so unfair without a water feature at the square.

[Rwirish]

OMG, no water fountain feature. How terrible, how could the Morse family do this to us?

[Marathon Man]

How can they not build another one? What are they waiting for? If you live in Feeney long drive to get to an existing one

Those of us living in "Feeney" are doing just fine, thank you very much.

[FenneyFanatic]

Love all the trolls that are flat out jealous that they will never have what we have in Fenney..

[Stu from NYC]

Love all the trolls that are flat out jealous that they will never have what we have in Fenney..

If you are happy there that is all that matters. However must say see nothing to be jealous about

[Pmarlow]

What is perceived as a complaint started out as question. I see I’ve made the freshman mistake of dare questioning the status quo. As mentioned, I want Brownwood to be the very best it can be. Do you? Don’t see how inquiring about adding a calming and tranquil water feature to Brownwood is grounds for ostracizing (ok, the Wally World reference wasn’t fair). Got a good spanking for bringing this up but no one has answered the question. Why? Maybe there’s a great reason. Just curious. Thanks for all the replies. This troll will crawl back under his bridge now (maybe there’s water there). 😁

I will answer your question with another question. Where would you think they could boy this water feature without taking away some of the 2 most valuable things in Brownwood retailers and parking?

[John_W]

When I read the OP initial statement about a water feature, I was thinking of something bigger and grander, then he said water fountain at SS. Actually after going to LSL, I would be disappointed in the fountain at SS.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C9C2PM/lake-sumter-landing-the-waterfront-pier-in-the-villages-florida-usa-C9C2PM.jpg

[Bogie Shooter]

Do you live down there?

Bonita. Our house in Va sold much faster than we thought and did not have time to build one and when we went to Feeney thought it was too far away from the earlier Villages.

So to begin its Fenney.
So if you don't live there , why would you care if there ever was a town square built in that area? You say it is too far, not so as pointed out to you.

[Stu from NYC]

So to begin its Fenney.
So if you don't live there , why would you care if there ever was a town square built in that area? You say it is too far, not so as pointed out to you.

I care because if built would take advantage of entertainment/restaurants/shops there.

[dewilson58]

Love all the trolls that are flat out jealous that they will never have what we have in Fenney..


I think "Fenney" is a very cool place. Different. I prefer access to golf, but that's not priority #1 for a lot of retired people. :clap2:

[Debfrommaine]

I knocked Fenney till I tried it, gorgeous area!

[Daddymac]

Wait to you see what there put in the New SQ, Your really going to be disappointed !

[NavyVet]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov
How can they not build another one? What are they waiting for? If you live in Feeney long drive to get to an existing one.

Tried to figure out where this "Feeney" was. Actually, found a Village of Feeny in North Ireland. It is over 4,000 miles from Brownwood as the crow flies.
However, the Village of FENNEY is just a few miles/minutes from Brownwood.
You're welcome. :1rotfl:

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Stuart Zaikov
How can they not build another one? What are they waiting for? If you live in Feeney long drive to get to an existing one.

Tried to figure out where this "Feeney" was. Actually, found a Village of Feeny in North Ireland. It is over 4,000 miles from Brownwood as the crow flies.
However, the Village of FENNEY is just a few miles/minutes from Brownwood.
You're welcome. :1rotfl:

Thank you for the correction

[JoMar]

Not sure where eveyone is from but, Southern Oaks to Brownwood, LSL or almost anywhere isn't a "long" drive IMO. There is no "long" drive to anywhere around The Villages.

[Stu from NYC]

Not sure where eveyone is from but, Southern Oaks to Brownwood, LSL or almost anywhere isn't a "long" drive IMO. There is no "long" drive to anywhere around The Villages.

The one time we drove to Fenney from Billy-s on 27 it took a good 45 minutes, kind of longer than we expected

[bullard]

Well drinks are still available.

There is water behind Cotys.