View Full Version : Why hop into the golf cart lane right in front of a golf cart?
coffeebean
05-29-2020, 11:44 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Stu from NYC
05-29-2020, 12:00 PM
Cant be too careful considering the pedestrians around here.
Due to social distancing have to go into golf cart lane sometimes and one should always look behind you.
Two Bills
05-29-2020, 12:23 PM
Cant be too careful considering the pedestrians around here.
Due to social distancing have to go into golf cart lane sometimes and one should always look behind you.
If the person walking towards the traffic on side walks steps off to allow space when passing another pedestrian, it would make the job a whole lot safer, as they can see oncoming far easier.
Stu from NYC
05-29-2020, 12:40 PM
If the person walking towards the traffic on side walks steps off to allow space when passing another pedestrian, it would make the job a whole lot safer, as they can see oncoming far easier.
Very true but some people think the other person is the one to get out of the way
EdFNJ
05-29-2020, 12:46 PM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
LOL, Must have been the same lady I "ran across" (PUN intended) on O'Dell, was it around 8:30AM? What they are trying to do is keep the 6' "social distancing" spacing as they walk by someone coming the other way and for most of that area there is no grass to step into, just shrubs or the street. I fully understand that but they REALLY need to look for oncoming carts or they will end up with about 6 INCH social distance spacing from the windshield !!
dewilson58
05-29-2020, 12:47 PM
Suicide by golf cart.
golfing eagles
05-29-2020, 01:27 PM
LOL, Must have been the same lady I "ran across" (PUN intended) on O'Dell, was it around 8:30AM? What they are trying to do is keep the 6' "social distancing" spacing as they walk by someone coming the other way and for most of that area there is no grass to step into, just shrubs or the street. I fully understand that but they REALLY need to look for oncoming carts or they will end up with about 6 INCH social distance spacing from the windshield !!
A lady did exactly the same thing to me on Moyer Loop today, EXCEPT there were no other pedestrians on the sidewalk. She then played "chicken" with me and refused to get back on the side walk as I approached. Since I was driving right into the sun, I almost couldn't see her. Suicide by golf cart????? Mental Illness?????
And also, Florida statute 316.130 sec 3 states that no pedestrian can walk in any paved area intended for vehicular traffic when a sidewalk is available. Hope she got where she was going in one piece.
davem4616
05-29-2020, 01:41 PM
amazing how some folks just live in their own little world and are totally clueless about what is going on around them at times
maybe there should be a class in 'defensive walking' along with 'defensive golf cart driving' classes lol
timinthevillages
05-29-2020, 01:46 PM
Good thing you were monitoring your speed and only going 19.9. Because you know what people would say if it was 20.1. Any chance or possibly you were monitoring to closely and should have been watching the road? Just saying.
Stu from NYC
05-29-2020, 01:48 PM
amazing how some folks just live in their own little world and are totally clueless about what is going on around them at times
maybe there should be a class in 'defensive walking' along with 'defensive golf cart driving' classes lol
very true
Chatbrat
05-29-2020, 03:42 PM
The other morning approx. 7 AM, I'm pulling into a parking space @ my local mail box, a golf cart pulls into a parking space and continues to his right parallel to the curb & stops 6" from my fender, several other people , including myself kept our mouths shut at the absolute arrogance of a personal with his own self importance , little did he know what a front fender on a MB would have cost him, guess his cart doesn't have reverse
njbchbum
05-29-2020, 05:20 PM
Maybe the woman noticed one of those black racer/darter snakes in the lawn and sought to get away from it?
capecoralbill
05-29-2020, 05:31 PM
A lady did exactly the same thing to me on Moyer Loop today, EXCEPT there were no other pedestrians on the sidewalk. She then played "chicken" with me and refused to get back on the side walk as I approached. Since I was driving right into the sun, I almost couldn't see her. Suicide by golf cart????? Mental Illness?????
And also, Florida statute 316.130 sec 3 states that no pedestrian can walk in any paved area intended for vehicular traffic when a sidewalk is available. Hope she got where she was going in one piece.
Isn't a MMP, equivalent to a sidewalk, an MMP is not " a roadway paved for vehicular traffic'''
And, there are special local rules for counties that allow golf carts, and they trump FL St 316.
coffeebean
05-29-2020, 05:56 PM
Cant be too careful considering the pedestrians around here.
Due to social distancing have to go into golf cart lane sometimes and one should always look behind you.
Even if someone is walking towards you out in the open air, please don't jump into a golf cart lane when a golf cart is traveling nearly 20 MPH and is close enough to kill you.
To be honest, I have no idea if this pedestrian had someone walking in the opposite direction on the side walk. It was still a very unsafe move to jump into the MMP in front of an oncoming golf cart.
coffeebean
05-29-2020, 06:00 PM
Good thing you were monitoring your speed and only going 19.9. Because you know what people would say if it was 20.1. Any chance or possibly you were monitoring to closely and should have been watching the road? Just saying.
I wasn't "monitoring" my speed. My electric cart goes a maximum of 19.9 MPH on flat land. I had pedal to the medal so I know I was traveling at 19.9 MPH without the need to check the speedometer.
coffeebean
05-29-2020, 06:04 PM
Maybe the woman noticed one of those black racer/darter snakes in the lawn and sought to get away from it?
Could be but I think I would take my chances against a snake vs a golf cart. Good thing I was watching ahead of me. Drivers can become distracted with other things and the outcome would not have been pretty.
600th Photo Sq
05-29-2020, 06:05 PM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Obviously an Insurance scam. Knocked down by a golf cart, few scrapes, traumatized etc. $$$ . Sue crazy USA, and Florida ? Lawyers paradise.
Check out the TV ads, plus the Billboards on I75 and the Turnpike.
Like hitting the lottery. :ohdear:
fishon
05-29-2020, 06:06 PM
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coffeebean
05-29-2020, 06:10 PM
Isn't a MMP, equivalent to a sidewalk, an MMP is not " a roadway paved for vehicular traffic'''
And, there are special local rules for counties that allow golf carts, and they trump FL St 316.
As far as I know, here in The Villages MMP are for golf carts, pedestrians when there is not a side walk within a certain amount of footage, skaters and bicycles.
golfing eagles
05-29-2020, 06:14 PM
Isn't a MMP, equivalent to a sidewalk, an MMP is not " a roadway paved for vehicular traffic'''
And, there are special local rules for counties that allow golf carts, and they trump FL St 316.
The CART and BIKE lanes along the roads are NOT MMPs. They are for CARTS and BIKES only, NO PEDESTRIANS. The MMPs are for all three.
patfla06
05-29-2020, 06:30 PM
:ohdear:
Death wish or completely oblivious to everything around her.
600th Photo Sq
05-29-2020, 07:50 PM
The CART and BIKE lanes along the roads are NOT MMPs. They are for CARTS and BIKES only, NO PEDESTRIANS. The MMPs are for all three.
As I mentioned Florida in particular is an Attorney's Paradise.
Slang term Ambulance Chasers. So many TV adds mainly in the morning, and of course on the Florida Turnpike and I75 .
They have every angle covered. When given the case or go ahead. Bingo. Lottery Time.
Ahhh yes crack open another bottle of Dom Perignon.
One thing everyone can count on Covid-19 crises ? They have every angle covered with the upcoming lawsuits .
Meanwhile hey sweetheart next year New Zealand or The South Pacific. Your choice 1st class of course.
Hey liven the American Dream :doggie:
coffeebean
05-29-2020, 10:44 PM
The CART and BIKE lanes along the roads are NOT MMPs. They are for CARTS and BIKES only, NO PEDESTRIANS. The MMPs are for all three.
Is that what those lanes are called along the roads.....cart and bike lanes? I used the incorrect term in my original post. Thanks for clearing that up. :)
jedalton
05-30-2020, 04:51 AM
The other morning approx. 7 AM, I'm pulling into a parking space @ my local mail box, a golf cart pulls into a parking space and continues to his right parallel to the curb & stops 6" from my fender, several other people , including myself kept our mouths shut at the absolute arrogance of a personal with his own self importance , little did he know what a front fender on a MB would have cost him, guess his cart doesn't have reverse
happens all the time. The entitled are here
Skunky1
05-30-2020, 05:59 AM
19.9 mph??? How come your first response was not to hit the break?
photo1902
05-30-2020, 06:03 AM
The CART and BIKE lanes along the roads are NOT MMPs. They are for CARTS and BIKES only, NO PEDESTRIANS. The MMPs are for all three.
Plenty of roads in the north part of The Villages that don’t have sidewalks, so pedestrians legally use these “cart and bike” lanes
greenflash245
05-30-2020, 06:20 AM
attempted suicide then had second thoughts after the long toot
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-30-2020, 06:35 AM
I'm thinking that at some point a pedestrian is going to get killed on a golf cart path and The Villages will be sued for insisting that these are Multi Modal Paths thereby encouraging people to walk on them.
As it now stands we have every right to walk or bicycle on these paths, but IMHO to do so is risking life and limb.
My father had a saying, "They'll put on your tombstone, "I was right"".
As golf cart drivers, we obviously have the responsibility to be careful of pedestrians and if a walker is hit, it will be the fault of the driver. But why The Villages encourages people to walk on the paths, when there are so many other places to walk in TV is beyond me. And why people would risk their lives by walking on the paths also is beyond me.
These paths are narrow and sometimes barely wide enough for two golf carts to pass each other. A pedestrian is much safer walking on a street especially within neighborhoods.
staylor81651@yahoo.com
05-30-2020, 06:50 AM
LOL, Must have been the same lady I "ran across" (PUN intended) on O'Dell, was it around 8:30AM? What they are trying to do is keep the 6' "social distancing" spacing as they walk by someone coming the other way and for most of that area there is no grass to step into, just shrubs or the street. I fully understand that but they REALLY need to look for oncoming carts or they will end up with about 6 INCH social distance spacing from the windshield !!
My wife and I were going golfing and came upon a couple walking towards us in the lane. A car was approaching us from behind so we could not swerve into the road to go around the couple. They clearly saw this. We had to come to a complete stop as the couple would not step up onto the grass to allow us to continue. Then the idiot husband yelled "we have the right of way". This is dangerous as some would have veered into the path of the car to avoid these walkers.
Dgizzi
05-30-2020, 06:55 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Guess it happens everywhere. Inconsiderate people. Don’t care about anyone else and it’s their world you have to watch for them. Just thought people here act like adults..
stan the man
05-30-2020, 07:00 AM
suicide by golf cart.
wow.
Leadbone1
05-30-2020, 07:02 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Unfortunately there is just a certain percentage of the population that are blatantly stupid. It’s always been the case and it will always be the case. I guess the best we can do is help protect them from themselves. They’re never going to go away!
rrlavigne
05-30-2020, 07:14 AM
I see people walking on Fenney way in the street on the GOLF CART LANE quite often. Issue is, it's NOT a MMP, it's a golf cart lane. Fenney way has a very wide, very safe walking and biking sidewalk spanning the full length of the street that golf carts are not allowed on. Some places in TV do not have separate lanes for walkers and golf carts, Fenney way does. Blows my mind that some people walk where it's dangerous rather than where it's safe. And unfortunately, no doubt one day a driver won't be paying attention and someone will get hit.
stadry
05-30-2020, 07:17 AM
looks as if we'll have cams front & rear on the golf cart now
golfing eagles
05-30-2020, 07:17 AM
Plenty of roads in the north part of The Villages that don’t have sidewalks, so pedestrians legally use these “cart and bike” lanes
That is true----again, for the 100th time, I refer to FL statute 316.130 sec 3. Pedestrians may use a paved roadway IF no sidewalk is available. Both Odell and Moyer Loop have sidewalks, so these pedestrians were breaking the law.
kcrazorbackfan
05-30-2020, 07:23 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Last Wednesday I was driving on the MMP through Turtle Mound next to the chipping/putting green and as I met a bicycle in the blind curve, here come the first idiot encounter of the day when a male numnuts in a cart passed the cycle on the curve and I had to drive up on the hillside to keep from getting hit.
5 minutes later, second idiot encounter; driving on the MMP alongside Buena Vista a female numnuts walking on the correct side facing opposite traffic, decides to wander over in front of me when I’m about 30’ feet away; I locked the brakes up and yelled for her to get out of the way. Her and her friend had this blank stare like they had no clue of what was going on.
dewilson58
05-30-2020, 07:34 AM
Her and her friend had this blank stare like they had no clue of what was going on.
:1rotfl:
I've seen that face a couple of times.
:1rotfl:
Parker614
05-30-2020, 07:49 AM
If there is a sidewalk available, pedestrians should not be walking/running in the golf cart path! Period!! If the concern is being 6' apart then walk in a neighborhood and not on a main road.
photo1902
05-30-2020, 07:55 AM
That is true----again, for the 100th time, I refer to FL statute 316.130 sec 3. Pedestrians may use a paved roadway IF no sidewalk is available. Both Odell and Moyer Loop have sidewalks, so these pedestrians were breaking the law.
It’ll be ok. Take a deep breath. I never said they weren’t. I was addressing the fact that there are areas in The Villages where It is perfectly legal for a pedestrian to use the so called “Bike and Cart lane”
Bethwill
05-30-2020, 07:59 AM
Be nice. Person walking in road is WRONG.
VApeople
05-30-2020, 08:04 AM
We do not own a golf cart and we never walk on the sidewalks or MMPs, so I guess we don't have a dog in this fight.
Well, we did walk on a sidewalk once along Moyer, but it was not enjoyable because the golf carts were driving by so close. Never again.
My wife and I walk a LOT, but we do it at Lake Okahumpka or at some of the nice walking/biking trails in the new southern areas of The Villages. We try to do things that are safe.
mgkw1
05-30-2020, 08:05 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Didn't anyone tell you that golf cars are invisible ? Only you can see it an people that you know. Cars, trucks, bikes, construction vehicles of any kind and walkers. No one sees you. Not even other golf cars unless you know the people in them. Your head must be on a swivel at all times.
Rosie1950
05-30-2020, 08:51 AM
Here’s a thought to ponder. When a newbie 12 years ago I was traveling by car on Bailey Trail. The car in front of me was making a left hand turn. I waited and waited, lots of on coming traffic. I looked to my right behind me and cart path was clear, SO I pulled around the car. There was a cruiser behind me and pulled me over. Asked how long I have been here, he explained that u can NEVER cross the white line into the cart path to pass someone. He only gave me a verbal because he saw me turn and look.
Question if a car can’t cross the white line, is it illegal for a cart to cross the line to pass. Obviously not making a left turn.
72lions
05-30-2020, 09:01 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Of course what the woman did was foolish but perhaps we all should be a little more careful driving golf carts and treat them as if we were driving a car. If you were in a car, and there was a pedestrian close by you would take action to ensure that there was no issue. I’m wondering would’ve been that hard to substantially slow down or maybe even stop until you know it was clear? I’m certain for one thing, hitting your horn was probably the last thing you should’ve done.
OhioBuckeye
05-30-2020, 09:15 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
The sad part is the cart person probably would of been charge if she hit this person. The person driving the cart probably would been charge for not having control of their cart. Well at least nobody got hit. Interesting comment!
kendi
05-30-2020, 09:42 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
If you would have just moved on and forgot about it you’d have a better day. Don’t sweat the small stuff.
kendi
05-30-2020, 09:48 AM
I see people walking on Fenney way in the street on the GOLF CART LANE quite often. Issue is, it's NOT a MMP, it's a golf cart lane. Fenney way has a very wide, very safe walking and biking sidewalk spanning the full length of the street that golf carts are not allowed on. Some places in TV do not have separate lanes for walkers and golf carts, Fenney way does. Blows my mind that some people walk where it's dangerous rather than where it's safe. And unfortunately, no doubt one day a driver won't be paying attention and someone will get hit.
That may have been me, just a short distance. I thought I saw someone go by one day with their mind blown off.
Topspinmo
05-30-2020, 09:55 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Some people have brain disconnect problem.:icon_wink:
Topspinmo
05-30-2020, 09:58 AM
Unfortunately there is just a certain percentage of the population that are blatantly stupid. It’s always been the case and it will always be the case. I guess the best we can do is help protect them from themselves. They’re never going to go away!
I was going to say stooopid in my post, but I thought I would get crucified for not being politically correct :duck:
coffeebean
05-30-2020, 10:09 AM
19.9 mph??? How come your first response was not to hit the break?
Nope. I had it under control. She needed the horn.......BIG TIME.
coffeebean
05-30-2020, 10:13 AM
My wife and I were going golfing and came upon a couple walking towards us in the lane. A car was approaching us from behind so we could not swerve into the road to go around the couple. They clearly saw this. We had to come to a complete stop as the couple would not step up onto the grass to allow us to continue. Then the idiot husband yelled "we have the right of way". This is dangerous as some would have veered into the path of the car to avoid these walkers.
Not if they look before they "leap". Weren't we taught to look both ways before crossing the street? This is a very similar scenario......look before you enter a roadway.
coffeebean
05-30-2020, 10:22 AM
Of course what the woman did was foolish but perhaps we all should be a little more careful driving golf carts and treat them as if we were driving a car. If you were in a car, and there was a pedestrian close by you would take action to ensure that there was no issue. I’m wondering would’ve been that hard to substantially slow down or maybe even stop until you know it was clear? I’m certain for one thing, hitting your horn was probably the last thing you should’ve done.
I was sending her a message by laying on my horn. I'm originally from NY. That is how we communicate on the roads. She GOT the message. My voice was heard.
nututv
05-30-2020, 10:28 AM
I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman.
Not the greatest at math but isn't that like 150 feet away? If you nearly clobbered her doing 19.9 mph, you may want to check your reaction time. Now if it was 20.0 mph I could understand. lol
coffeebean
05-30-2020, 10:30 AM
The sad part is the cart person probably would of been charge if she hit this person. The person driving the cart probably would been charge for not having control of their cart. Well at least nobody got hit. Interesting comment!
The person driving the cart was me. I honestly do not think this woman looked to see if there was any traffic coming in the cart lane. If she did, she would have stepped to the other side of the sidewalk onto the grass. I drove that section a half hour ago and made note that there is grass along the entire length of the sidewalk where this woman could have jumped on if, in fact, she was attempting to social distance from on coming pedestrians.
Re: the highlighted text above.......what if a person hops in front of a golf cart 5 feet in front of the cart as it is motoring along at 19.9 MPH? Is the golf cart driver STILL responsible for injuring or killing that person because they did not control their cart? At what point is it NOT the fault of the golf cart driver if a pedestrian decides to hop on the cart path in front of a golf cart which is in motion?
coffeebean
05-30-2020, 10:32 AM
If you would have just moved on and forgot about it you’d have a better day. Don’t sweat the small stuff.
Sorry, but this is NOT small stuff. It is small stuff because I reacted to prevent hitting her. Any other driver may have shifted their gaze to something else and she would have been flattened.
remarks006
05-30-2020, 10:56 AM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Not everyone out of their Village homes should be, if you are if sound mind, be the bigger person , drive defensive , and expect the unexpected.
Think of all the many physical and mental issues Village folks have, be careful👍
zuidemab
05-30-2020, 11:38 AM
If the person walking towards the traffic on side walks steps off to allow space when passing another pedestrian, it would make the job a whole lot safer, as they can see oncoming far easier.
YUP! This is the Moyer Loop Practice! :coolsmiley:
CFrance
05-30-2020, 11:50 AM
Suicide by golf cart.
It has happened.
vermonster
05-30-2020, 12:02 PM
The CART and BIKE lanes along the roads are NOT MMPs. They are for CARTS and BIKES only, NO PEDESTRIANS. The MMPs are for all three.
I believe you are incorrect. In most of The Villages, north of 466 at least, there are no sidewalks, so pedestrians must share the lane with golf carts and bicycles. This is even on some very heavily trafficked roads, such as Morse Boulevard, Rio Grande, and Del Mar. Lake County even paints pictures of pedestrians, bicycles, and dog walkers in the lane to warn golf cart drivers they must share the lane and yield to the non-motorized users. Admittedly, if there is a line of car traffic paralleling the lane, the other users should make an effort to jump up on the grass or verge, even if it is uncomfortable to do so, which it often is because of heavy dew on the grass, uneven surfaces, shrubs, branches, etc. Still it is the moral and legal duty of the golf cart to yield to these other users by moving into the car lane (all the way in, not just a few inches) when it is safe to do so. I have seen many polite car drivers anticipate this and slow down to allow all users to proceed safely. Let's face it, good as the design of The Villages is, this is one of the most egregious flaws in its initial layout, at least in my opinion. Perhaps 20-30 years ago, they didn't expect seniors to walk or bike. How mistaken this assumption turned out to be. My mantra is give others the benefit of the doubt, reduce stress, and live longer.
Indydealmaker
05-30-2020, 12:08 PM
No.
NanciO
05-30-2020, 01:38 PM
I was traveling (in my golf cart) down Belvedere around 10:30 AM Friday. 2 pedestrians were passing each other. The woman walked off the sidewalk into the grass. The man jumped in front of me into the golf cart lane. Since there was a car approaching, I had no where to go, so I stopped. He yelled and clapped his hands saying, "Come on, lady! MOVE OVER!" Where? into the path of the car? JERK!
golfing eagles
05-30-2020, 02:05 PM
I believe you are incorrect. In most of The Villages, north of 466 at least, there are no sidewalks, so pedestrians must share the lane with golf carts and bicycles. This is even on some very heavily trafficked roads, such as Morse Boulevard, Rio Grande, and Del Mar. Lake County even paints pictures of pedestrians, bicycles, and dog walkers in the lane to warn golf cart drivers they must share the lane and yield to the non-motorized users. Admittedly, if there is a line of car traffic paralleling the lane, the other users should make an effort to jump up on the grass or verge, even if it is uncomfortable to do so, which it often is because of heavy dew on the grass, uneven surfaces, shrubs, branches, etc. Still it is the moral and legal duty of the golf cart to yield to these other users by moving into the car lane (all the way in, not just a few inches) when it is safe to do so. I have seen many polite car drivers anticipate this and slow down to allow all users to proceed safely. Let's face it, good as the design of The Villages is, this is one of the most egregious flaws in its initial layout, at least in my opinion. Perhaps 20-30 years ago, they didn't expect seniors to walk or bike. How mistaken this assumption turned out to be. My mantra is give others the benefit of the doubt, reduce stress, and live longer.
You may BELIEVE I'm incorrect, but you are wrong. Please don't make me cite FL statute 316.130 sec 3 for the 101st time. It is quoted earlier in this thread. I also mentioned that the situation is different north of 466 or anywhere that doesn't have a sidewalk. The incidents described at the beginning of this thread occurred within 5 feet of a sidewalk
Indydealmaker
05-30-2020, 02:11 PM
I was traveling (in my golf cart) down Belvedere around 10:30 AM Friday. 2 pedestrians were passing each other. The woman walked off the sidewalk into the grass. The man jumped in front of me into the golf cart lane. Since there was a car approaching, I had no where to go, so I stopped. He yelled and clapped his hands saying, "Come on, lady! MOVE OVER!" Where? into the path of the car? JERK!
There is virtually no reason for this kind of ignorance. Any possibility of transmission of Corona Virus is a function of proximity and time. You are not going to be infected in the few seconds that it takes to pass someone on the street!
mtlee024
05-30-2020, 03:02 PM
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Florida law requires pedestrians to walk on a sidewalk when one is available.
coffeebean
05-30-2020, 03:52 PM
There is virtually no reason for this kind of ignorance. Any possibility of transmission of Corona Virus is a function of proximity and time. You are not going to be infected in the few seconds that it takes to pass someone on the street!
Very true. I also think there is no chance of being infected as you pass someone in the aisle of a grocery store as it takes all of one second to get past them. Who's idea was it anyway for one way aisles?
capecoralbill
05-30-2020, 04:16 PM
I . I'm originally from NY. That is how we communicate on the roads. She GOT the message. My voice was heard.
I'll try not to hold that against you. Just kidding.
Are you driving an ELECTRIC cart, they can sneak up on you.
I 'm surprised there isn't a law that they should have to emit some kind of constant sound.
600th Photo Sq
05-30-2020, 04:52 PM
I'll try not to hold that against you. Just kidding.
Are you driving an ELECTRIC cart, they can sneak up on you.
I 'm surprised there isn't a law that they should have to emit some kind of constant sound.
What sound would you suggest ? Music, Laughter, Beep, Beep, Waterfall, Rainfall, Screeching, Moving Train, Snoring, etc.
Low enough to be heard but yet " Soothing " enough not to be annoying. :ohdear:
VApeople
05-30-2020, 05:35 PM
What sound would you suggest
Since your cart is about the size of an old Nash Rambler, here is your answer:
While riding in my Cadillac, what, to my surprise,
A little Nash Rambler was following me, about one-third my size.
The guy must have wanted it to pass me up
As he kept on tooting his horn. Beep! Beep!
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn.
Beep, beep. (Beep, beep.)
Beep, beep. (Beep, beep.)
His horn went, beep, beep, beep. (Beep! Beep!)
That is what happened to me today. A woman, walking along Odell Circle on the sidewalk, jumped smack dab into the center of the golf cart lane right in front of me in my golf cart and continued to walk. I was motoring along at 19.9 MPH and I was no more than 10 seconds away from slamming into this woman. I gave her a quick toot on the horn and she ignored the warning. I then LAID on the horn and slowed down my cart so I would not hit her. That is when she hopped right back on the side walk which is where she should have stayed in the first place.
Death wish? Shaking my head!
Why not be “friendly” and just go around her? If you are retired and live in The Villages you should dial back the “me first”, “ don’t get in my way” attitude.
coffeebean
05-30-2020, 05:57 PM
I'll try not to hold that against you. Just kidding.
Are you driving an ELECTRIC cart, they can sneak up on you.
I 'm surprised there isn't a law that they should have to emit some kind of constant sound.
Thanks for not holding that against me. LOL.
NOOOOOOO. I love my quiet electric golf cart. How about we do away with people who don't look for traffic before they walk into a roadway. She didn't look. She just hopped onto the cart path and never looked back to see if there was traffic coming.
coffeebean
05-30-2020, 06:00 PM
Since your cart is about the size of an old Nash Rambler, here is your answer:
While riding in my Cadillac, what, to my surprise,
A little Nash Rambler was following me, about one-third my size.
The guy must have wanted it to pass me up
As he kept on tooting his horn. Beep! Beep!
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn.
Beep, beep. (Beep, beep.)
Beep, beep. (Beep, beep.)
His horn went, beep, beep, beep. (Beep! Beep!)
Playmates - Beep Beep (The Little Nash Rambler) - YouTube (https://youtu.be/L7hch0wQD1w)
banjobob
05-31-2020, 08:09 AM
Probably had Dan Newlin on speed dial.
600th Photo Sq
05-31-2020, 12:45 PM
Since your cart is about the size of an old Nash Rambler, here is your answer:
While riding in my Cadillac, what, to my surprise,
A little Nash Rambler was following me, about one-third my size.
The guy must have wanted it to pass me up
As he kept on tooting his horn. Beep! Beep!
I'll show him that a Cadillac is not a car to scorn.
Beep, beep. (Beep, beep.)
Beep, beep. (Beep, beep.)
His horn went, beep, beep, beep. (Beep! Beep!)
Soooooooooooo Beep, Beep takes the lead. Jury is still in session. :doggie:
coffeebean
05-31-2020, 02:57 PM
Why not be “friendly” and just go around her? If you are retired and live in The Villages you should dial back the “me first”, “ don’t get in my way” attitude.
She was wrong walking in the cart path when there is a sidewalk right next the the cart path. She needed to be given a message. I was NOT going to go around her. I would come to a complete stop first with my cart flashers on and let her really hear my voice!!!
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