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caberkner
05-29-2020, 07:52 PM
We are beginning our plans to build down in The Villages and all the forums have been extremely helpful. Thank you all for the great advice. This has helped us think about things that we didn't even know we had to think about! One thing we are very certain of is that we want to have our own pool. We would love to have a shower in the lanai to rinse off before getting in and after getting out of the water. Does anyone have a shower in their lanai (if this is even allowed) and if so, anything we should consider before moving forward with this? Thanks in advance for any advice!!
Toymeister
05-29-2020, 08:17 PM
For the shower you have two options, having the lines plumbed in like an outdoor kitchen, or one of the "big pipe" models they sell on amazon. You run a garden hose to them, the pipe, which is also holds the shower head, fills with water. They are black, they also have cold water adjustment. Enough for two showers. They are bolted to the concrete deck and cost 250.00. Obviously they heat the water by the sun. Low tech, takes up little space.
My recommendation, if the lot allows, is a back door to the garage with a screen door. A hideaway retracting screen door is fine. Some pool lots can accommodate this, especially if the lot is narrow in front and wide in the back. You will appreciate the cool(er) garage
caberkner
05-29-2020, 08:24 PM
Thanks for the info!!
John_W
05-29-2020, 08:34 PM
Besides the outdoor shower, which is great to have. Something people overlook until the home has been built, is a door to an inside bathroom. Nothing better than to have a door straight to a bathroom and avoiding running through the air conditioned home in a wet swimsuit when a door is all you need. It can be even a half bath with just a toilet and sink.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c2/b1/f9/c2b1f93ffc82011ef4f879885a716b9f.jpg
caberkner
05-29-2020, 08:46 PM
Wow, never even thought about that. Thanks for the idea!
Toymeister
05-29-2020, 08:50 PM
Question for the poster: you will probably install a salt water pool, so there will be no chlorine to rinse off. Consider this before you invest in an outside shower.
Mleeja
05-29-2020, 08:55 PM
The original owners of our house had a hot tub on the patio. They had an outdoor shower installed. The hot tub is long gone, but we still have the shower. We have used it a few times to cool off on hot days, water to wash off the patio, or to get water for plants. Also, a conversation topic when we have guest.
caberkner
05-29-2020, 09:08 PM
We are leaning towards the salt water pool. From what I have read showering off before entering will help with the maintenance cost of the pool...haven't talked to any experts on that yet but would like to have about 95% of this figured out before our design meetings!
photo1902
05-29-2020, 09:11 PM
A complete waste of money in my opinion. As someone who owns and uses a salt water pool nearly all year (as well as friends and family who use it) an outdoor shower is absolutely not necessary. I cannot even begin to fathom why anyone would say it is a benefit. An even bigger waste of money would be having a bathroom located directly next to the pool. Complete nonsense. Please feel free to send me a private message if you would like more information.
John_W
05-29-2020, 10:19 PM
///An even bigger waste of money would be having a bathroom located directly next to the pool. Complete nonsense. Please feel free to send me a private message if you would like more information.
What do you do, go in the pool? I've had two pools in two different Florida homes. It's a great idea to have access from the outside to a bathroom. To say differently is complete nonsense. You don't have the bathroom next to the pool. Many homes if properly designed will have a half bath somewhere near the living area, it only requires the addition of a second door. Sort of a Jack-n-Jill situation. Many homes built in Spring Hill where I lived a few years ago, all came with this feature.
I'm going back aways, here's my very first pool, a 16 x 32 installed in 1979 in a home I built in Pensacola Florida. This photo is 41 years old.
https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66832660_1342399202591275_4335892768053264384_o.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=lOZkOjlQRdkAX_W_JNQ&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=586fd6e1fe7e9294a570390254b9f429&oe=5EF5BF4F
eeroger
05-30-2020, 04:47 AM
A lanai shower is not necessary. Put your pennies toward a pool bath. This is a must, if you are building a pool. Ever try to walk dripping wet on tile through the house? This is an accident waiting to happen!
Juniper
05-30-2020, 04:50 AM
We have a villa w/o a pool. Remodel included an outdoor shower w/ wood enclosure.
(outside kitchen window) Rarely do we wash inside. Rarely do we clean indoor showers.
photo1902
05-30-2020, 05:32 AM
What do you do, go in the pool? I've had two pools in two different Florida homes. It's a great idea to have access from the outside to a bathroom. To say differently is complete nonsense. You don't have the bathroom next to the pool. Many homes if properly designed will have a half bath somewhere near the living area, it only requires the addition of a second door. Sort of a Jack-n-Jill situation. Many homes built in Spring Hill where I lived a few years ago, all came with this feature.
I'm going back aways, here's my very first pool, a 16 x 32 installed in 1979 in a home I built in Pensacola Florida. This photo is 41 years old.
https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66832660_1342399202591275_4335892768053264384_o.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=lOZkOjlQRdkAX_W_JNQ&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=586fd6e1fe7e9294a570390254b9f429&oe=5EF5BF4F
We get out, pat dry with a towel, then go inside to the bathroom. I can’t believe I had to explain it to you, it’s a a pretty simple concept, and has worked well for years. Geesh.
Dlbonivich
05-30-2020, 05:42 AM
In Florida it is called a pool bath, a salt water converter will help immensely with the expense of pool chemicals and really keeps your skin, hair and suits nice.
bmit16
05-30-2020, 06:37 AM
Don't let anyone tell you a salt pool is cheaper. It is nice in that it makes the chlorine for you, but rain constantly changes ph and calcium levels, thus you buy chemicals. Plus everytime you backwash you send salt out of your pool, thus, replace salt. In the 10 years I have owned a salt pool, I have replaced 3 salt cells, $275.00 a piece, 1 computer board, $600.00, 3 pool pumps, $360.00 a piece. I have done the work myself so I did not have to pay a pool company to do it which would have cost an additional 2- 300.00 bucks each time. The salt is corrosive and destroys things. Lightening takes out computer boards,, etc. Salt is great, but it does not cut your overall cost.
jkmonahan
05-30-2020, 06:39 AM
Built a pool a year ago. Also put a hot water shower in a semi-enclosed area at the end of the pool. Connected water line to house hot water heater. Best thing ever. I swim an hour every day. After the swim I shower and dry off and change into new clothes. No tracking in the house. Best thing I ever did.
fdpaq0580
05-30-2020, 06:44 AM
We are beginning our plans to build down in The Villages and all the forums have been extremely helpful. Thank you all for the great advice. This has helped us think about things that we didn't even know we had to think about! One thing we are very certain of is that we want to have our own pool. We would love to have a shower in the lanai to rinse off before getting in and after getting out of the water. Does anyone have a shower in their lanai (if this is even allowed) and if so, anything we should consider before moving forward with this? Thanks in advance for any advice!!
We put a pool in and now I wish we had the foresight to put a shower near by to rinse off and, (don't laugh) sometimes would even like a toilet handy so you don't have to drip your way through the house to get to one. There are days I could be happy to spend 12 hours in the pool if I had those two facilities close to hand.
coconutmama
05-30-2020, 06:53 AM
A lanai shower is not necessary. Put your pennies toward a pool bath. This is a must, if you are building a pool. Ever try to walk dripping wet on tile through the house? This is an accident waiting to happen!
We wish we had put in at least a half bath off of our pool, with an outdoor shower. We have a salt water pool which is great, but it still leaves a slight pool odor on my skin that I like to wash off. Tile floors inside the house are truly slippery when wet if you need to use the bathroom. Enjoy your build!!
Villages Kahuna
05-30-2020, 06:54 AM
That’s the one thing we failed to put in our pool, spa, kitchen that we added. We have one at our Sumer home on Lake Michigan and it get used more than the bathroom showers. They’ll try to talk you into a salt water pool here, in which case you will really need one. We resisted the salt water pool and stuck with the fresh water. If you’re going to have the project designed and built after you buy your house make only one call, to T&D Spa and Pool. They’re be far the best. I didn’t even call anyone for another bid. Good luck!
Chi-Town
05-30-2020, 07:22 AM
A pool bath is not only a good idea for its convenience when using the pool. It is also very handy when sitting outside on your lanai.
dewilson58
05-30-2020, 07:23 AM
A lanai shower is not necessary. Put your pennies toward a pool bath. This is a must, if you are building a pool.
Agree...........outdoor accessible bathroom is great. With shower, yes you might rinse off.....but unless to strip down (& use soap), you ain't getting all the pool water (or dried pool water) off.
Barbara Jacks
05-30-2020, 07:39 AM
Hang a water hose
Jazzcat
05-30-2020, 07:56 AM
You might want to look for an Elm designer home. The guest bath has a door directly to the lanai so you wouldn’t have to walk through the house to use the bathroom or shower.
erojohn
05-30-2020, 08:05 AM
With close to 100 pools With shower with toilet in the villages, I cant see the need for a home pool. I fussed with a pool for 35 years up north so I know all of the plagues that come with them.
Bogie Shooter
05-30-2020, 08:38 AM
Question for the poster: you will probably install a salt water pool, so there will be no chlorine to rinse off. Consider this before you invest in an outside shower.
A salt water pool generates cholorine.
Henryfrakl
05-30-2020, 08:46 AM
my only response is to the folks who think a salt water filter actually makes their pool salt water. It does not the system uses the salt to create chlorine cheaper than buying it to use. So your pool still uses chlorine for cleanliness.
Villagesgal
05-30-2020, 08:48 AM
If you live south of 466 do not use a garden hose type outdoor shower. Outside water is reuse and not potable. Call City of Wildwood water dept if you're in Fenny area and Brownwood area and they will explain what your outdoor water is, otherwise call the Villages Utility dept and ask for the water dept phone number and call them and ask about your outdoor hose water. It is all reuse, clean but not drinkable and legally can hold some bacteria so you definitely don't want to shower with this water. You get 2 separate charges on your monthly bill, potable which is inside, and nonpotable which is outside.
John_W
05-30-2020, 08:50 AM
We get out, pat dry with a towel, then go inside to the bathroom. I can’t believe I had to explain it to you, it’s a a pretty simple concept, and has worked well for years. Geesh.
Even simpler is a half bath on an exterior wall, instead of a small window, you add a second door. I can't believe someone cannot grasp such a simple idea that is used 100's of times in Florida home construction. This is what is looks like, the photo taken from the doorway near the kitchen, instead of a small frosted window, you add a door, like a Jack-N-Jill layout.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c2/b1/f9/c2b1f93ffc82011ef4f879885a716b9f.jpg
John_W
05-30-2020, 08:52 AM
If you live south of 466 do not use a garden hose type outdoor shower. Outside water is reuse and not potable...
That's not true, that means I've been washing my car with reused water. The outside water spickets are potable water, only the reused water goes to your irrigation system.
caberkner
05-30-2020, 09:00 AM
Appreciate the info.
Villagesgal
05-30-2020, 09:11 AM
That's not true, that means I've been washing my car with reused water. The outside water spickets are potable water, only the reused water goes to your irrigation system.
You should call and check. Yes you have been washing your car with reuse. Nothing wrong with reuse, just not potable. Call. You might be surprised by what you hear.
RedChariot
05-30-2020, 09:33 AM
What do you do, go in the pool? I've had two pools in two different Florida homes. It's a great idea to have access from the outside to a bathroom. To say differently is complete nonsense. You don't have the bathroom next to the pool. Many homes if properly designed will have a half bath somewhere near the living area, it only requires the addition of a second door. Sort of a Jack-n-Jill situation. Many homes built in Spring Hill where I lived a few years ago, all came with this feature.
I'm going back aways, here's my very first pool, a 16 x 32 installed in 1979 in a home I built in Pensacola Florida. This photo is 41 years old.
https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66832660_1342399202591275_4335892768053264384_o.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=lOZkOjlQRdkAX_W_JNQ&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=586fd6e1fe7e9294a570390254b9f429&oe=5EF5BF4F
Our home is 8 years old here in the villages. We have a small pool. Wish we had access to a bathroom. Drying off before going into the air conditioned house is a pain!
John_W
05-30-2020, 09:38 AM
You should call and check. Yes you have been washing your car with reuse. Nothing wrong with reuse, just not potable. Call. You might be surprised by what you hear.
I already did call, the reclaimed water is used for irrigation. That's why on your monthly statement the potable water and irrigation water have two different amounts. It doesn't say reclaimed water, it's irrigation use.
Amenity Fee $0.00
Irrigation Use $0.00
IRRIGATION BASE $0.00
Sewer Use $0.00
Sewer Base $0.00
Sanitation Collection $0.00
Water Use $0.00
Water Base
mulligan
05-30-2020, 10:09 AM
If you live south of 466 do not use a garden hose type outdoor shower. Outside water is reuse and not potable. Call City of Wildwood water dept if you're in Fenny area and Brownwood area and they will explain what your outdoor water is, otherwise call the Villages Utility dept and ask for the water dept phone number and call them and ask about your outdoor hose water. It is all reuse, clean but not drinkable and legally can hold some bacteria so you definitely don't want to shower with this water. You get 2 separate charges on your monthly bill, potable which is inside, and nonpotable which is outside.
Absolutely not true !! The hose bibs on the outside walls of your home are connected to the potable water system inside. The Non potable water is for irrigation only and is NOT connected to the house building in any way.
sunglow
05-30-2020, 10:11 AM
We have a salt water pool and have to rinse off when getting out. We have an outdoor shower and love it. We use it all the time.
airstreamingypsy
05-30-2020, 10:41 AM
If I wanted a pool, to me the obvious choice is a bathroom I can access directly from the pool. IOW a door from the lanai directly into the bathroom. That way I have a toilet and a shower. Perfect for swim days, and entertaining.
PugMom
05-30-2020, 10:53 AM
That's not true, that means I've been washing my car with reused water. The outside water spickets are potable water, only the reused water goes to your irrigation system.
i was told the opposite! thx for info :coolsmiley:
Alana33
05-30-2020, 10:56 AM
Hang a water hose
That's what I use to rinse off after swimming. I have an outdoor faucet with a hose.
Water is always very warm.
I guess I could attach a pipe with a shower 🚿 head to the faucet but really see no need.
Topspinmo
05-30-2020, 12:39 PM
We are beginning our plans to build down in The Villages and all the forums have been extremely helpful. Thank you all for the great advice. This has helped us think about things that we didn't even know we had to think about! One thing we are very certain of is that we want to have our own pool. We would love to have a shower in the lanai to rinse off before getting in and after getting out of the water. Does anyone have a shower in their lanai (if this is even allowed) and if so, anything we should consider before moving forward with this? Thanks in advance for any advice!!
I got one, called outdoor faucet with garden hose on it. :icon_wink:
vonbork
05-30-2020, 02:03 PM
We have a sink and toilet accessible off the pool area. Very handy to towel off and change clothes without going through the house. Haven’t seen need for a shower.
caberkner
05-30-2020, 02:38 PM
Huge thank you to everyone sharing comments!! Has given us some great ideas. We only want to do this once so are going to do our best to nail every detail! :icon_wink:
chrisinva
05-30-2020, 03:34 PM
And remember...there is no "p" in swimming. Someone had to say it. :1rotfl:
fitnessrs@aol.com
05-30-2020, 04:14 PM
I can only tell you that we love our outdoor shower. I had it built so it is private and you can take a real shower there. We take about 80% of our showers there from April through November and about 20% from December through March. In addition access to a bathroom from the outside is great. I would definitely recommend both if you can. That said we love the pool and spa. I was told unless you are really dirty it isn't necessary to rinse off before you get into the pool. Be happy to discuss with you any questions you might have.
Rich
KMS1946
05-30-2020, 04:58 PM
I had a home in Wesley Chapel and it seemed that the builder put cabanna baths in most of the homes. We had a large screen enclosure installed over a paver patio. We decided against a pool. It was nice not to have to walk through the house when we were out entertaining guests. 😎
Carla B
05-30-2020, 05:11 PM
Absolutely not true !! The hose bibs on the outside walls of your home are connected to the potable water system inside. The Non potable water is for irrigation only and is NOT connected to the house building in any way.
Mulligan and John are correct. The hose-bib water is potable. It'd be nice to have a pool with access to an inside bath, but few floor plans in The Villages would allow that because the bathrooms are located in the interior.
Prism1
05-30-2020, 06:35 PM
We've moved a lot and for the first time have a pool. Solar panels help a LOT with temps and also extending the weeks the pool is comfortable. The one thing that makes it especially nice was having a hot/cold shower plumbed with regular house water to one of the posts when we extended our back area to include the pool. We use it a LOT ... even after working in the yard, doing sports, in the winter, etc. It's easy to dry off out there and having the hot as well as cold water makes a big difference. We're more than happy we had it installed.
gemini5001
05-30-2020, 10:43 PM
I disagree !
We had a "non salted water" pool and it was a royal pain in the butt to keep the water clear. It was constantly getting green with algae.
Kept spending countless $$$ on chemicals.
I was at a point where I just wanted to fill in.
We switched to a salt pool and it was like night and day. No more constant cleaning and spending my hard earned money on chemicals.
We have since moved and our pool at the second home is salt water and besides vacuuming it from time to time, we barely have to do anything to it, the water is always crystal clear.
John_W
05-31-2020, 09:08 AM
Mulligan and John are correct. The hose-bib water is potable. It'd be nice to have a pool with access to an inside bath, but few floor plans in The Villages would allow that because the bathrooms are located in the interior.
You're right about floorplans, TV is behind the times on that one. Another poster did mention the 'ELM' model. I looked and apparently it's no longer being built. I guess, looking for an ELM resale would be the only option for a Cabana Bath.
https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ab119/lylegant_2009/TV%20Mobile%20Floor%20Plans/ElmMOBILE.jpg
dahrens1
05-31-2020, 09:20 AM
The Elm looks like a nice floor plan, thanks for posting John. If someone bought a building lot would TV build this still or do they not allow retired floorplans from being built anymore?
Thanks
Dave
ditka41
05-31-2020, 12:25 PM
We have been in our uniquely expanded ELM for over a year and love it. Had a standard Elm before, which is a very nice floor plan, but wanted more room and a pool so they customized the file drawings. Yes, the ELM is no longer a standard offering, but The Villages was happy to build our stretched version to include a beautiful lanai and pool, along with added garage and interior space. Of course, having direct lanai access to the guest bathroom is a huge convenience and makes complete sense, especially for entertaining. If you discuss it with the Design Center personnel, I believe they can still build it exactly as you wish.
BS Beef
05-31-2020, 04:58 PM
We are beginning our plans to build down in The Villages and all the forums have been extremely helpful. Thank you all for the great advice. This has helped us think about things that we didn't even know we had to think about! One thing we are very certain of is that we want to have our own pool. We would love to have a shower in the lanai to rinse off before getting in and after getting out of the water. Does anyone have a shower in their lanai (if this is even allowed) and if so, anything we should consider before moving forward with this? Thanks in advance for any advice!!
:shocked: I’m amazed how many posts were critical of even putting in an outdoor shower. An outdoor shower (even better for us would be private) is very high on our priority list when it comes to building our pool.
spd2918
06-01-2020, 10:23 AM
I'm not planning on having a pool but I sure would like access to a bathroom from the lanai. We will probably have a hot tub and we will want to rinse off the sweat before getting in. Plus it would be nice to have guests access a bathroom from the lanai instead of walking through the house.
Curtisbwp
06-01-2020, 11:09 AM
We are beginning our plans to build down in The Villages and all the forums have been extremely helpful. Thank you all for the great advice. This has helped us think about things that we didn't even know we had to think about! One thing we are very certain of is that we want to have our own pool. We would love to have a shower in the lanai to rinse off before getting in and after getting out of the water. Does anyone have a shower in their lanai (if this is even allowed) and if so, anything we should consider before moving forward with this? Thanks in advance for any advice!!
Prior to moveing to the villages i had a pool behind my home. It was constant work. Now i have no pool and i do not miss the work.
Kennybmd
06-24-2020, 12:45 PM
who did your outdoor shower?
queasy27
06-26-2020, 08:47 AM
What type of maintenance/cleaning is required for outdoor showers? I assume a lot depends on the type of flooring and enclosure, but mildew and corrosion come to mind.
tophcfa
06-26-2020, 10:18 AM
We are leaning towards the salt water pool. From what I have read showering off before entering will help with the maintenance cost of the pool...haven't talked to any experts on that yet but would like to have about 95% of this figured out before our design meetings!
Very good idea to shower, without soap, before entering the pool. Total dissolved solids in the water make it difficult to balance the pools water. Total dissolved solids come from stuff like suntan lotion, deodorant, soap, hair conditioner, and make up. If swimmers wash all that stuff off both their Bodies and bathing suits before entering the pool the Pool maintenance will be simplified.
tophcfa
06-27-2020, 08:33 PM
For the shower you have two options, having the lines plumbed in like an outdoor kitchen, or one of the "big pipe" models they sell on amazon. You run a garden hose to them, the pipe, which is also holds the shower head, fills with water. They are black, they also have cold water adjustment. Enough for two showers. They are bolted to the concrete deck and cost 250.00. Obviously they heat the water by the sun. Low tech, takes up little space.
My recommendation, if the lot allows, is a back door to the garage with a screen door. A hideaway retracting screen door is fine. Some pool lots can accommodate this, especially if the lot is narrow in front and wide in the back. You will appreciate the cool(er) garage
Toymeister, thanks for the idea of the big pipe outdoor solar type shower. I am putting one in by our pool. Great idea.
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