Looters and Rioter's in Polk County.........

[anothersteve]

..............take warning

Sheriff encourages citizens to shoot at rioters | George Floyd - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1i7GPDbW8)

Steve

[dewilson58]

wow

[Tennisbum]

Past practice shows that if you shoot the first few through the door, the rest disappear quickly!!!

[Shbullet]

wow

Why would that video shock you? What would you suggest a law abiding home owner do? or maybe I miss interpreted your "wow" comment

[Marvic 1]

Hehehe! .... I like that :coolsmiley:, ... So what is he saying::popcorn:

[dewilson58]

Why would that video shock you? What would you suggest a law abiding home owner do? or maybe I miss interpreted your "wow" comment


a sheriff saying, "i highly recommending they blow you back out of the house......."

[New Englander]

I agree with the Sheriff.

[eyc234]

Agree 100%, if you come into my home uninvited you will not like the greeting you receive!! Not looking to hurt anyone but I refuse to allow someone else hurt my family or my property. All the "rights" that seem to be brandished about, the ability to protect oneself and family is a real right.

[Stu from NYC]

Agree 100%, if you come into my home uninvited you will not like the greeting you receive!! Not looking to hurt anyone but I refuse to allow someone else hurt my family or my property. All the "rights" that seem to be brandished about, the ability to protect oneself and family is a real right.

Well said

[Shbullet]

a sheriff saying, "i highly recommending they blow you back out of the house......."


Maybe the more civil way would be to invite the intruder him/her in for apple pie....Common toughen up just a little bit...you seem very sheltered.

[600th Photo Sq]

Maybe the more civil way would be to invite the intruder him/her in for apple pie....Common toughen up just a little bit...you seem very sheltered.

In my experience anyone who goes looking for trouble finds it, usually with a negative result.

I have 357 reasons why I am more than ready Sheriff !

[Stu from NYC]

In my experience anyone who goes looking for trouble finds it, usually with a negative result.

I have 357 reasons why I am more than ready Sheriff !

Anyone who does a home invasion or damages someones property deserves to get what is coming to him/her

[600th Photo Sq]

Anyone who does a home invasion or damages someone's property deserves to get what is coming to him/her

For backup I have 44 reasons why I agree with the Sheriff, I love apple pie, but right now I'm on a diet. So I don't have any apple pie.

[Marvic 1]

And they want to take our guns away....
- Maybe that Apple Pie might come in handy -

[kcrazorbackfan]

..............take warning

Sheriff encourages citizens to shoot at rioters | George Floyd - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1i7GPDbW8)

Steve

Looters and Rioters should take warning in every Florida county.

[anothersteve]

Agree 100%, if you come into my home uninvited you will not like the greeting you receive!! Not looking to hurt anyone but I refuse to allow someone else hurt my family or my property. All the "rights" that seem to be brandished about, the ability to protect oneself and family is a real right.

Some would not understand that this is one of the many facets of "prepping"

Steve

[kcrazorbackfan]

Seriously, all you people that think that Sheriff Judd was over the top with his statement, what are you going to do if someone (or several people) tries to break into your house and cause harm to you and your loved one(s)? Find some safe place to cower down and whimper?

Not at my house......

[anothersteve]

Seriously, all you people that think that Sheriff Judd was over the top with his statement, what are you going to do if someone (or several people) tries to break into your house and cause harm to you and your loved one(s)? Find some safe place to cower down and whimper?

Not at my house......

Looks like everyone has the same feelings to me. I understand what you are saying for sure.
Steve

[manaboutown]

It appears that you do not need to warn them. You can also shoot them if they are attempting to get into your vehicle while you are in it, perhaps to carjack it. Can I Shoot An Intruder In Florida (https://www.hutchhufflaw.com/2016/09/24/can-shoot-intruder-florida/)

[dewilson58]

Seriously, all you people that think that Sheriff Judd was over the top with his statement, .


There is not one post saying or thinking the statement was over the top. Re-read the posts.
:ohdear:

[dewilson58]

It appears that you do not need to warn them. You can also shoot them if they are attempting to get into your vehicle while you are in it, perhaps to carjack it. Can I Shoot An Intruder In Florida (https://www.hutchhufflaw.com/2016/09/24/can-shoot-intruder-florida/)


True. Just hope they don't turn quickly and you shoot them in the back.

[dewilson58]

Looks like everyone has the same feelings to me. I understand what you are saying for sure.
Steve


Agree.

[Stu from NYC]

One would hope that the DA of his county feels the same way

[Professor]

I totally agree. None of us has to tolerate this poor and dangerous behavior.

[oneclickplus]

..............take warning

Sheriff encourages citizens to shoot at rioters | George Floyd - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1i7GPDbW8)

Steve

He specifically said if someone is attempting break in or harm your property or your person, shoot them!! I don't see the problem with that. If they are pouring gasoline on your property, are you going to wait until they light match before acting? Hell no.

I also think some more dead (shot) looters would turn things around quickly.

[Stu from NYC]

He specifically said if someone is attempting break in or harm your property or your person, shoot them!! I don't see the problem with that. If they are pouring gasoline on your property, are you going to wait until they light match before acting? Hell no.

I also think some more dead (shot) looters would turn things around quickly.

When you know you can get free stuff with no consequences does bring out the worst in people

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Another amazingly misleading headline. Some of the fake news is blatant and some is subtle like this.

Listen to this sheriff. He says that if these so called protestors try to enter your house, you should shoot them as is legal under Florida law.

The headline implies that the sheriff is encouraging people to go out on the streets and mow these people down.

By making this statement what this sheriff has done is discourage protestors from trying to enter private residences.

Does anyone know if the castle doctrine applies to businesses as well?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

There was a video posted somewhere of two shop owners (in New jersey I think) who met rioters that were about to enter their shop with a show of guns. On the video one of the rioters can be overheard saying, "They've got guns in there. That's crazy"

THAT'S CRAZY???? Defending your property against people who are rioting for the sake of rioting is crazy, but the rioters and looters are not crazy.

[Travelingal702]

..............take warning

Sheriff encourages citizens to shoot at rioters | George Floyd - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1i7GPDbW8)

Steve
Now, THAT'S my kind of sheriff!!!!

[DIver0258]

I would not want to take a life over a material piece of property! But rest assured of my family is in harms way their will be no doubt about my response!

[noslices1]

..............take warning

Sheriff encourages citizens to shoot at rioters | George Floyd - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1i7GPDbW8)

Steve

If you break into my house, please stay on the hardwood floor. It’s much easier to clean the blood off of than on the carpet.

[greenflash245]

oh boy, the Wild West!

[JimJohnson]

I have no problem with killing someone to protect your property. I would like for the sheriff to show support for the non violent protesters, as they are the vast majority.

[JimJohnson]

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[Dgizzi]

Hehehe! .... I like that :coolsmiley:, ... So what is he saying::popcorn:
LOVE IT...I NEED THIS SIGN ON MY DOOR AS WELL. Cause I will protect my family and home and neighbors as well. I work hard for what I have. I follow the laws, pay my taxes, follow the rules. It isn’t hard being a honest good citizen. But some people don’t want to work at it....easier to steal

[tenorgirl]

Another amazingly misleading headline. Some of the fake news is blatant and some is subtle like this.

Listen to this sheriff. He says that if these so called protestors try to enter your house, you should shoot them as is legal under Florida law.

The headline implies that the sheriff is encouraging people to go out on the streets and mow these people down.

By making this statement what this sheriff has done is discourage protestors from trying to enter private residences.

Does anyone know if the castle doctrine applies to businesses as well?

And headlines are the very reason people say and do stupid things. People do not read the article and jump to conclusions

[Dgizzi]

..............take warning

Sheriff encourages citizens to shoot at rioters | George Floyd - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1i7GPDbW8)

Steve
That’s what I’m talking about. We need to stand up to the criminals and not let them get away with this. They have no right to come to my home or local stores and destroy them. Businesses have just started opening up hoping to survive and these no good low life’s have to destroy their livelihood! For what?

[Windguy]

Anyone who does a home invasion or damages someones property deserves to get what is coming to him/her
The last I heard, non invasive vandalism is not a capital crime that would deserve the death penalty. If you replaced the “or” in your statement with an “and” then I would not have felt compelled to point this out.

So, tell me. Could you sleep easily at night knowing you killed someone? I sure couldn’t.

[Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com]

..............take warning

Sheriff encourages citizens to shoot at rioters | George Floyd - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1i7GPDbW8)

Steve
He is a tough sheriff, but if someone would come to loot near me and I felt threatened, he would get a load of buckshot!!!!!!! sorry, I worked too hard to be able to enjoy what I have for some low life to steal it!!!!!!!

[Bay Kid]

My home is protected by "Smith and Wesson"

[Windguy]

We need to stand up to the criminals and not let them get away with this.

How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem?

[Windguy]

I can’t believe some of what I have read here.

If you are more concerned about property damage than murder, it tells a lot about you.

[GoodLife]

How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem?

Take it up with the Mayor of Minneapolis since he is in charge of Police there.

[HeyGeorge]

???

[billethkid]

Having a plan to address those who would harm your family or destroy your property is no more aggressive than having fire departments nearby to "BE PREPARED" to fight a fire.....that could threaten your life or destroy your property.

All too easy for those who have nothing invested in a possible event to intellectualize from a pulpit/keyboard.

[Don5154]

I can’t believe some of what I have read here.

If you are more concerned about property damage than murder, it tells a lot about you.

How about you invite them to your house 🤔....sit them down and talk about their concerns. Perhaps you can hand out free TV’s.

[regas56]

oh boy, the Wild West!Which by the way was far FAR safer then places like Chicago, Baltimore or St Louis are today..

[Two Bills]

Public Health Warning

It is advised that knocking on house doors after dark in The Villages, could seriously endanger your Health!

[bobnyce]

I was wondering what would happen if anyone caught looting, rioting or involved in arson would lose their $600/week unemployment bonus? Just a thought.

[theruizs]

Hehehe! .... I like that :coolsmiley:, ... So what is he saying::popcorn:

God and a gun? Remember, you’re going to meet him some day too, the same God that said “thou shall not kill.”

[theruizs]

Just in case anyone brings it up based on my comment - Yes, I would rather loose everything I own, including my life, to avoid taking a life.

[New Englander]

How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem?

We did. He's in Jail.

[billethkid]

Just in case anyone brings it up based on my comment - Yes, I would rather loose everything I own, including my life, to avoid taking a life.

And then they would move on to your wife and children!!!!!

[theruizs]

And then they would move on to your wife and children!!!!!

Perhaps, and we would be standing clean before the Creator. Life does not end with the death of the body, that’s when your real life actually begins. Don’t let your attachment to things (including your body) mess that up later.

[manaboutown]

Just in case anyone brings it up based on my comment - Yes, I would rather loose everything I own, including my life, to avoid taking a life.

Would you mind losing the lives of your wife and children to avoid taking a life?

[billethkid]

And then they would move on to your wife and children!!!!!

Nothing to stop you from hurting them or scaring them off or making them think twice about coming after you and family!!!

[Stu from NYC]

Would you mind losing the lives of your wife and children to avoid taking a life?

Very good point

[Stu from NYC]

I was wondering what would happen if anyone caught looting, rioting or involved in arson would lose their $600/week unemployment bonus? Just a thought.

Very good

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I worry very little about bring the victim of a home invasion or a looter , I worry a lot about the many gun owners here heading into the years where memory issues may cloud there judgement

[Rodneysblue]

Perhaps, and we would be standing clean before the Creator. Life does not end with the death of the body, that’s when your real life actually begins. Don’t let your attachment to things (including your body) mess that up later.
So what your saying is, just lay down and die?

[mflasch]

That same attitude should be in place in every city in the country where the rabid animals are killing, rioting, burning and destroying everything. I cannot understand why authorities are allowing these mobs to continue to assemble.

[Stu from NYC]

I worry very little about bring the victim of a home invasion or a looter , I worry a lot about the many gun owners here heading into the years where memory issues may cloud there judgement

Lots of people here with guns and when was the last time you saw a local commit a crime with a handgun?

[theruizs]

So what your saying is, just lay down and die?

If that’s how you want to look at it. I do what is reasonable to protect myself and my family, but it will not involve taking a life to save one.

[Curtisbwp]

..............take warning
ge
Sheriff encourages citizens to shoot at rioters | George Floyd - YouTube (https://onverge.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1i7GPDbW8)

Steve

Steve what is your current plan if Wildwood, leesberg and ocala converege upon the villages.

[anothersteve]

Steve what is your current plan if Wildwood, leesberg and ocala converege upon the villages.

Stand my ground and do as the Sheriff suggested if it came down to that.
If you think I'm going to go out looking for trouble, I am not, and will not. I am well prepared.
What would you do?
Steve

[Number 10 GI]

God and a gun? Remember, you’re going to meet him some day too, the same God that said “thou shall not kill.”

From my reading of studies on this statement, it was originally "thou shall not murder". I guess all the military veterans who have killed the enemy in war violated the shall not kill commandment. Jesus said sell your cloak for a sword.

[Number 10 GI]

I think this post should have been removed by the administrator as were several other posts. Everyone who posted here is, in my opinion, an insensitive clod who has no understanding of what is happening in America this past week.

"Rioting is the language of the unheard." MLK

Most people with a thinking mind know what is happening in America. Looter and rioters causing damage to personal and public property, people have been murdered in some of these riots, where is the outrage over this? Hard working small businessmen have had their life's work destroyed because a bunch of low life animal scum who think it is their right to steel and destroy. The supporters of this behavior who try to justify the unjustifiable show their true values and morals and are no better than the low life scum. I can guarantee if your property was destroyed you'd be singing a different song.

[Number 10 GI]

I worry very little about bring the victim of a home invasion or a looter , I worry a lot about the many gun owners here heading into the years where memory issues may cloud there judgement

How many instances of that have happened in TV?

[billethkid]

If that’s how you want to look at it. I do what is reasonable to protect myself and my family, but it will not involve taking a life to save one.

YOU do not know that!!
You are saying when all else fails you are prepared to be killed or let members of your family be killed.

Hence my comment....until you are actually confronted with that reality....you do not know.

Hypothetically one can profess all day long!!

[Stu from NYC]

YOU do not know that!!
You are saying when all else fails you are prepared to be killed or let members of your family be killed.

Hence my comment....until you are actually confronted with that reality....you do not know.

Hypothetically one can profess all day long!!

very true

[theruizs]

From my reading of studies on this statement, it was originally "thou shall not murder". I guess all the military veterans who have killed the enemy in war violated the shall not kill commandment. Jesus said sell your cloak for a sword.

That’s what those who want to justify killing for “the right reason” want you to believe. I believe it was thou shall not kill, period. The young men who are trained to be able to kill by those who should know better have less culpability, IMHO, but yes, that is what I believe. So the same Jesus that said to turn the other cheek said to sell your cloak for a sword? Something’s wrong with that picture, or interpretation, or translation. And I am not claiming it would be easy, what’s easy is lashing out violently in return, it’s hard to keep control and put your trust in the Creator who has your eternal life in his hands.

[theruizs]

YOU do not know that!!
You are saying when all else fails you are prepared to be killed or let members of your family be killed.

Hence my comment....until you are actually confronted with that reality....you do not know.

Hypothetically one can profess all day long!!

Perhaps. But I know it at least to the extent that those do who profess their faith in guns when faced with that situation.

[John_W]

That’s what those who want to justify killing for “the right reason” want you to believe. I believe it was thou shall not kill, period. The young men who are trained to be able to kill by those who should know better have less culpability, IMHO, but yes, that is what I believe. So the same Jesus that said to turn the other cheek said to sell your cloak for a sword? Something’s wrong with that picture, or interpretation, or translation. And I am not claiming it would be easy, what’s easy is lashing out violently in return, it’s hard to keep control and put your trust in the Creator who has your eternal life in his hands.

All that is fine and well, but doesn't that same bible say, though shall not steal, how about looting, violence against others? Religion and war never go very well together, that's why the government allows conscious objectors.

Essentially these so called protesters have declared war against our local governments. If they had towels on their hands and names like Muhammand, they would be called terrorist. I really don't see the difference. Besides, what if you're an atheist?

You know there are 20,000 military veterans living in TV, and with the popularity of 'Shooters World' it seems many here don't share your philosophy, religious or not. This is my philosophy.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61AdcNK75nL._AC_SL1116_.jpg

[theruizs]

[QUOTE=John_W;1776728]This is my philosophy.

Of course, and I was just sharing mine.

[anothersteve]

God and a gun? Remember, you’re going to meet him some day too, the same God that said “thou shall not kill.”

I'm not knocking anyone's faith, and I'm saying that right from the start before anyone gets their panties hot.
I was actually curious because I didn't know.

What Does the Bible Say About Killing? (https://www.openbible.info/topics/killing)

Steve

[Windguy]

people have been murdered in some of these riots
So, tell me. Were you this upset when some white supremacist drove his car into a peaceful counter protest and killed a woman and injured 19 others?

[anothersteve]

I can’t believe some of what I have read here.

If you are more concerned about property damage than murder, it tells a lot about you.

It's not murder if you are defending yourself, your family, or your property. So you think the Sheriff was justifying murder?

Steve

[Byte1]

The last I heard, non invasive vandalism is not a capital crime that would deserve the death penalty. If you replaced the “or” in your statement with an “and” then I would not have felt compelled to point this out.

So, tell me. Could you sleep easily at night knowing you killed someone? I sure couldn’t.

The answer to your question, is; I could sleep BETTER if I knew that person was not out there attempting to perpetrate his crimes on anyone. If you do not have the courage or determination to keep your property and family safe, then you do not deserve it.

[Byte1]

I think this post should have been removed by the administrator as were several other posts. Everyone who posted here is, in my opinion, an insensitive clod who has no understanding of what is happening in America this past week.

"Rioting is the language of the unheard." MLK

Isn't it great that you are able to have your opinion in this free country? What has been happening in this country this past week is that anarchists and criminals have been paid to infiltrate demonstrators and create chaos, in order to further someone's nefarious agenda. The lawful demonstrators have already succeeded in gaining attention and success in getting justice, therefore they should disperse, separate themselves from the criminal element so that they can be dealt with severely.

[Byte1]

That’s what those who want to justify killing for “the right reason” want you to believe. I believe it was thou shall not kill, period. The young men who are trained to be able to kill by those who should know better have less culpability, IMHO, but yes, that is what I believe. So the same Jesus that said to turn the other cheek said to sell your cloak for a sword? Something’s wrong with that picture, or interpretation, or translation. And I am not claiming it would be easy, what’s easy is lashing out violently in return, it’s hard to keep control and put your trust in the Creator who has your eternal life in his hands.

GOD gave every creature the instinct for survival. The whole Bible is full of wars and killing, including persons killed by GOD HIMself. I am a peaceful person myself, with several weapons created to kill. My survival is not up to law enforcement or the Government, just me. If a man will not take up a gun or weapon to protect his family or property, then I am sure that his wife will. Some might say that a man does not deserve to KEEP his property or family if he is not willing to protect it. This is a dangerous world and always has been. A person not willing to defend himself will become someone else's slave.

[Byte1]

I can’t believe some of what I have read here.

If you are more concerned about property damage than murder, it tells a lot about you.

So, you feel that "property damage" is justified based on someone killed in another state? The demonstrators got the attention and justice they demanded. Property damage was done by scum and should not be coddled based on ANY supposed reason. Anyone looting or assaulting those attempting to protect their property, should received the absolute maximum penalty, including lethal defense from the property owner.

[Byte1]

Perhaps, and we would be standing clean before the Creator. Life does not end with the death of the body, that’s when your real life actually begins. Don’t let your attachment to things (including your body) mess that up later.

Perhaps when one is standing "before the Creator" HE would ask them a couple simple questions. "I gave you a body with the instinct for self preservation and you ignored it. I gave you a family to protect, and you failed to protect them. Why do you feel you deserve a place in my house?"
Friend, you are ONLY alive today because someone else sacrificed for YOU.

[Byte1]

Most people with a thinking mind know what is happening in America. Looter and rioters causing damage to personal and public property, people have been murdered in some of these riots, where is the outrage over this? Hard working small businessmen have had their life's work destroyed because a bunch of low life animal scum who think it is their right to steel and destroy. The supporters of this behavior who try to justify the unjustifiable show their true values and morals and are no better than the low life scum. I can guarantee if your property was destroyed you'd be singing a different song.

No, he would just expect the gov. to reimburse him for his loss.

[Byte1]

If that’s how you want to look at it. I do what is reasonable to protect myself and my family, but it will not involve taking a life to save one.

Your view of "reasonable" is not the same as most. The law gives us the right to defend ourselves to include using lethal force. That means the law is reasonable, therefore we are being reasonable if we abide by the law. The law does not mandate that you defend your family to include using lethal force, but gives one that option. You have the right to turn the other cheek, but does that also morally include giving up your second child or your wife after one of them is murdered? I guess that is something that you would have to "reason" out on your own.

[jacksonbrown]

So, tell me. Were you this upset when some white supremacist drove his car into a peaceful counter protest and killed a woman and injured 19 others?

Once again, you are making inferences based on your obvious political persuasion.

Also, your previous statement

"How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem? "

Not only have those officers not yet been convicted but also, you don't know that they are racists.

If only you should experience in one day of your safe and sheltered life what our finest experience in a week, maybe you would change your tune.

[Windguy]

It's not murder if you are defending yourself, your family, or your property. So you think the Sheriff was justifying murder?
I'm sorry, Steve. We seem to have had a disconnect. I was referring to the murder of George Floyd by the cop. People on this forum seem much more upset about property damage, than a man being murdered by a cop and by the systemic racism in our society.

[Windguy]

Once again, you are making inferences based on your obvious political persuasion.

And, you're not?

"How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem? "

Not only have those officers not yet been convicted but also, you don't know that they are racists.

Yeah, but the evidence is pretty clear and the attorney general wouldn't have raised the charge to 2nd-degree murder unless he had a really good case. And, picking that nit is just a way of redirecting away from the issue at hand. Do you think that there are no racist and murderous cops? If so, you are naive. If not, does it not bother you?

If only you should experience in one day of your safe and sheltered life what our finest experience in a week, maybe you would change your tune.

Well, first, I would have to disagree with your assessment that the police are "our finest." Some of them are good people. Some are not. Some of them take the job for a power trip. I would put many other professions way ahead of cops for being thought of as "our finest." I have first-hand experience with racist cops.

Secondly, no one put a gun to their heads and forced them to take that job. If they can't face a difficult situation without losing their cool as is clearly evident in the videos, then they need to find another job.

[billethkid]

I'm sorry, Steve. We seem to have had a disconnect. I was referring to the murder of George Floyd by the cop. People on this forum seem much more upset about property damage, than a man being murdered by a cop and by the systemic racism in our society.

Why does the existence not get any attention or coverage or rage until or unless there is a killing?
Why is there no sound coming from the 95% of blacks who are happy and content?

Once again the isolated case is being used to demonstrate a general condition. Which is not true.

Is there injustice and wrong doing? Of course there is.
But why is it ok on a day to day basis until an episode occurs???

As has been said more than once......NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE!!

Hypocrites all!

[Number 10 GI]

So, tell me. Were you this upset when some white supremacist drove his car into a peaceful counter protest and killed a woman and injured 19 others?

I am quite upset when anyone murders another person, what a STUPID question!

[ColdNoMore]

Why does the existence not get any attention or coverage or rage until or unless there is a killing?
Why is there no sound coming from the 95% of blacks who are happy and content?

Once again the isolated case is being used to demonstrate a general condition. Which is not true.

Is there injustice and wrong doing? Of course there is.
But why is it ok on a day to day basis until an episode occurs???

As has been said more than once......NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE!!

Hypocrites all!
Unbelievable! :oops:

While I should be shocked by purposeful naivete and outright lies...I'm not.

Ignorance, turning away and sticking heads in the sand when it comes to what is undeniable...IS at the root of the problem.

While a few years old, it's only become worse since this poll.

Views on inequality (click here) (http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/06/27/on-views-of-race-and-inequality-blacks-and-whites-are-worlds-apart/)

A new Pew Research Center survey finds profound differences between black and white adults in their views on racial discrimination, barriers to black progress and the prospects for change. Blacks, far more than whites, say black people are treated unfairly across different realms of life, from dealing with the police to applying for a loan or mortgage. And, for many blacks, racial equality remains an elusive goal.

[billethkid]

Unbelievable! :oops:

While I should be shocked by purposeful naivete and outright lies...I'm not.

Ignorance, turning away and sticking heads in the sand when it comes to what is undeniable...IS at the root of the problem.

While a few years old, it's only become worse since this poll.

Views on inequality (click here) (http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/06/27/on-views-of-race-and-inequality-blacks-and-whites-are-worlds-apart/)

The point being missed, totally, is why is there not an ongoing outcry? Instead of episode based.

The other point being missed is hearing from the blacks who are in fact satisfied with their lot in life.

Whatever you measure with that concludes "...purposeful naivete and outright lies..." it is not appropriate commentary for my post.
Yes you are entitled to your opinion.....however wrong it may be.

Like the rest of us your responses are a reflection of personal optics. And isn't it great we are not all alike.

[Byte1]

Interesting that many of you ASSUME that this is a racist incident. Just because the cop was white does not mean that the whole incident was based on race. Funny how many wish, need, MUST make this about race. When is the last time you heard it called a racial act when a black COP killed a white man? Why? Is it because no one looks at it that way? Are you going to tell me that black COPs are not racists? I've known a whole lot of COPs in my life and have seen very few bad COPs. Yes, I have seen some that seemed to get into more altercations than others. I have seen some handle domestic disputes very badly, but I have never seen any of them do so with nefarious intent. If someone is drunk and runs over a black child riding a bicycle, it does not make him or her a racist, as much as some would like to. I think that many just wish to explain many unfortunate incidents by labeling them racially biased. I am not say that this incident is or not related to bias or race. I am just saying that many start rioting and demonstrating, with the theme being racism, not based on the real intent or lack of. Call it what you will, but at least be honest about it. My understanding is that the COP in question knew Floyd. There was a personal connection there somewhere. Maybe (or maybe not) some wish to make this racial when it is really something else. Just because a bad COP kills a black man or woman, does not necessarily mean it was based on skin color.
Kind of like, just because a person tests positive for COVID-19 and dies of a heart attack or alcohol poisoning, does not mean that COVID-19 was the cause of the death. And if you want to ask me what the virus has to do with this, and can't figure it out, maybe you should not admit it in public.

[Byte1]

How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem?

Did the COPs say something that indicated that this was racially motivated? I haven't heard that part yet. Or, do you just assume that since the man was black and a COP killed him, he had to be a racist? Seems to me that the other COPs were not all white, or am I mistaken?

[ColdNoMore]

SNIP...>The other point being missed is hearing from the blacks who are in fact satisfied with their lot in life.<...SNIP

Please expand on what you personally mean here.

Because until you do, it could easily be taken as "they know they're constantly discriminated against...but have just accepted it."

[billethkid]

Please expand on what you personally mean here.

Because until you do, it could easily be taken as "they know they're constantly discriminated against...but have just accepted it."

I suppose it could, but not even a distant consideration in the thinking....

Arbitrary "...until you do..." qualifier does not change the status of the original intent!

Pretty basic actually.....we all know non white individuals or families that are and have been content with their state of progress in life and accomplishment.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by theruizs
If that’s how you want to look at it. I do what is reasonable to protect myself and my family, but it will not involve taking a life to save one.

Well then, you're family's dead Pal!!!

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[anothersteve]

Well then, you're family's dead Pal!!!

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One needs only look to youtube, and look for home invasions caught on camera. They are some of the most violent crimes imaginable. Everyone needs to watch them.
Steve

[rjm1cc]

a sheriff saying, "i highly recommending they blow you back out of the house......."

IF THEY ARE BREAKING INTO YOUR HOME. Unfortunately lots of statements do not get fully reported and lead you to the wrong conclusion.

[anothersteve]

I'm curious though, exactly how do you know that these families of color..."are content with their lot in life?"


First off he didn't say "these families of color"

He said:


we all know non white individuals or families that are and have been content.......

And back to this:


I'm curious though, exactly how do you know that these families of color..."are content with their lot in life?"


Maybe ...just maybe... he knows them personally, deals with them on a daily basis, as, contrary to popular belief, some of us do.

Again, twisting words to suite

Steve

[amexsbow]

How about also standing up to the murderous and racists cops who started this problem?

The cops started the looting problem? Where did you learn about logical thought and reason?