We are sheep

[Swoop]

The news media decides what we see & what we should be outraged about and it’s all about their ratings. If the cop who killed George Floyd was black, would it still have made the national news? Probably, because they could still tout it as police brutality against blacks and that makes for a salacious story. But if he was white, his story wouldn’t even have been picked up by the national news.

[Bay Kid]

Nope.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

It's surprising to me that whenever a black person is attacked, assaulted or killed by a white person so many jump to the conclusion that it was racially motivated.
Not all crimes against blacks are racially motivated.

[oldtimes]

Perception Management is a Propaganda technique that involves carefully altering the perceptions of a target audience to suit the objectives of the sponsor, and is an essential part of modern Information Warfare

[Stu from NYC]

It's surprising to me that whenever a black person is attacked, assaulted or killed by a white person so many jump to the conclusion that it was racially motivated.
Not all crimes against blacks are racially motivated.

agreed but to some people why waste the opportunity to promote racial hatred.

[billethkid]

Perception Management is a Propaganda technique that involves carefully altering the perceptions of a target audience to suit the objectives of the sponsor, and is an essential part of modern Information Warfare

Which is done quite often here on TOTV by a select few.

[ColdNoMore]

It's interesting to watch so many members here post 1 or 2 times about how they don't agree with what happened to George Floyd, then spend their next 10-20 posts...pushing all of their 'BUTS.' :ohdear:

[jacksonbrown]

Not all crimes against blacks are racially motivated.

In fact, FBI statistics show that the lowest percentage of crimes agaist blacks are racially motivated.

Search on "crimes against blacks" and you will find numerous articles, most with adequate citations, like this one

What New Research Says About Race and Police Shootings (https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/)

[Swoop]

It's interesting to watch so many members here post 1 or 2 times about how they don't agree with what happened to George Floyd, then spend their next 10-20 posts...pushing all of their 'BUTS.' :ohdear:
You must be on the wrong thread. This is about how the media is using Floyd’s death for their own ratings. The national networks wouldn’t even have reported his death if he was white. However they did sensationalize his death because perpetuates their false narrative that blacks are subject to more police brutality than whites.

[Stu from NYC]

:1rotfl:

You just proved my point...AGAIN! :oops:

Thanks. :thumbup:


you have a point that you express again and again and again. Do you really think anyone will change their minds?

[Swoop]

Interesting how some posters who don’t like the subject matter of the original post, but can’t refute it, try to change the subject instead...

[Stu from NYC]

Control the media!

Unfortunately the media has reached the point where only a few corporations control almost all of the content of newspapers and tv and radio.

In Roanoke where we lived for 29 years the local paper was owned by a very liberal corporation. As a result only liberals were ever endorsed for public office and the widespread opinion was the Roanoke Times never heard of a tax they didnt endorse..

Some years ago our conservative congressman was endorsed. The joke was how long before the endorsement was cancelled. Took 48 hours and shortly there after a new publisher was named to run the paper.

[Swoop]

You mean like the quote...above yours? :oops:

It’s actually a perfect example of control of what we get to see, albeit on a small scale.

If the same thing that happened to Floyd happened to a white man, the national news would have ignored it. They want to fan the flames of hatred, because those stories are good for ratings.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

It's interesting to watch so many members here post 1 or 2 times about how they don't agree with what happened to George Floyd, then spend their next 10-20 posts...pushing all of their 'BUTS.' :ohdear:

It's because there are a lot of legitimate "BUTS".

What happened to George Floyd was horrendous. But we don't know the whole story. But, we don't know that it was racially motivated. But it doesn't mean that all cops are bad cops or racists. But it doesn't mean that every we still institutional racism in this country. But it doesn't justify people rioting, looting and burning down businesses. But it doesn't mean that every one of us should have to apologize for being white.There are probably a lot more legitimate BUTS but the most important is that we should wait for our justice system to work. I'm sure that this cop is going to be convicted or something and do some time in prison.

I'm sure that there are a lot more legitimate BUTS so what is wrong with pointing them out.

I'm sure that you wouldn't be happy if a group of these so called protestors set your house on fire because of the actions of one bad cop in Minneapolis.

[Stu from NYC]

It's because there are a lot of legitimate "BUTS".

What happened to George Floyd was horrendous. But we don't know the whole story. But, we don't know that it was racially motivated. But it doesn't mean that all cops are bad cops or racists. But it doesn't mean that every we still institutional racism in this country. But it doesn't justify people rioting, looting and burning down businesses. But it doesn't mean that every one of us should have to apologize for being white.There are probably a lot more legitimate BUTS but the most important is that we should wait for our justice system to work. I'm sure that this cop is going to be convicted or something and do some time in prison.

I'm sure that there are a lot more legitimate BUTS so what is wrong with pointing them out.

I'm sure that you wouldn't be happy if a group of these so called protestors set your house on fire because of the actions of one bad cop in Minneapolis.

Well said. A lot of these people who are protesting what happened would change their mind real quick if they were a victim of the looting or destruction

[Stu from NYC]

It’s actually a perfect example of control of what we get to see, albeit on a small scale.

If the same thing that happened to Floyd happened to a white man, the national news would have ignored it. They want to fan the flames of hatred, because those stories are good for ratings.

Good for ratings and the political motivation of the media.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by John_W
I've had at 50% of my posts deleted in the past week. First nine years on this board I never had one post deleted. What Happened? Did they sell the Board? Suddenly old people in a Florida retirement community cannot stand to read comments they disagree with?? This use to a fun place and for all the garbage they had the Political Board. Worse thing ever, was to take that board away. The two posters with the opposite view of 95% of the Villagers could go on there and post all day and leave this real board to us residents. Instead, we've got moderators who pick and choose what we can read and write!!!
Quote:

You mean like the quote...above yours? :oops:

That was bait, and the moderators did good, they didn't fall for it, like you did - HOOK, LINE AND SINKER!!!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/34/7b/54/347b54bcb7af4c140fe0eadd2a3f383c.jpg

[ColdNoMore]

It's because there are a lot of legitimate "BUTS".

What happened to George Floyd was horrendous. But we don't know the whole story. But, we don't know that it was racially motivated. But it doesn't mean that all cops are bad cops or racists. But it doesn't mean that every we still institutional racism in this country. But it doesn't justify people rioting, looting and burning down businesses. But it doesn't mean that every one of us should have to apologize for being white.There are probably a lot more legitimate BUTS but the most important is that we should wait for our justice system to work. I'm sure that this cop is going to be convicted or something and do some time in prison.

I'm sure that there are a lot more legitimate BUTS so what is wrong with pointing them out.

I'm sure that you wouldn't be happy if a group of these so called protestors set your house on fire because of the actions of one bad cop in Minneapolis.

First of all, thank you for so perfectly pointing out my comment...about all of the "buts." :thumbup:

Secondly, of course, I wouldn't be happy...having ANY criminal burn my house.

Unlike so many we see here though, I certainly wouldn't blame and defect to the vast majority...who are peacefully protesting. :ho:

[Topspinmo]

Not exactly non-political or even on-topic though, right? From the top of this, all other pages: "NO POLITICAL REFERENCES ARE ALLOWED ON THE WEBSITE. USERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECT COMMENTS TOWARD ANOTHER USER. DIRECT THEM TO THE TOPIC."

That’s opinion when about everything has political overtone or agenda now?

[Viperguy]

Hum? I wonder when this race baiting by the media started? I wonder.........

[ColdNoMore]

Hum? I wonder when this race baiting by the media started? I wonder.........

The reporting of the truth, intensified during the peaceful marches of the 60's for civil rights and the end to Jim Crow laws...and when that brave lady refused to give up her bus seat.

[Swoop]

The reporting of the truth, intensified during the peaceful marches of the 60's for civil rights and the end to Jim Crow laws...and when that brave lady refused to give up her bus seat.
And over time the media has deviated from reporting the truth to promoting their agenda...

[Stu from NYC]

And over time the media has deviated from reporting the truth to promoting their agenda...

Sad but very true, once upon a time editorial pages where they gave us their opinion, now they slant and report the news based on their agenda.

[vilger]

Sad but very true, once upon a time editorial pages where they gave us their opinion, now they slant and report the news based on their agenda.

Are you referring to the state-run propagandists at Fox "News"?

[Aloha1]

And over time the media has deviated from reporting the truth to promoting their agenda...

The resignation of the NYT Opinion editor and his assistant due to the childish temper tantrum of some millennial "reporters" over the Tom Cotton OP Ed should stand as definitive proof that the MSM has an agenda. The Old Gray Lady has truly lost her way.

[Aloha1]

Are you referring to the state-run propagandists at Fox "News"?

????? Please provide proof of this accusation that Congress is in control of Fox?

[Stu from NYC]

Are you referring to the state-run propagandists at Fox "News"?

I am referring to the media at large.

[Aloha1]

The reporting of the truth, intensified during the peaceful marches of the 60's for civil rights and the end to Jim Crow laws...and when that brave lady refused to give up her bus seat.

The reporting of the truth stopped beginning in the '70's with the rise of so called "Identity Politics" and the subtle indoctrination of college students with Marxist propaganda. I first noticed this on the old "main stream" networks. The subtle use of certain words to convey an opinion instead of reporting the facts. It continues to this day, without the subtlety.

[Bay Kid]

Walter where are you? CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX? I can't even trust what the weather man says much less these guys.

Media is just bad tv.

[graciegirl]

Are you referring to the state-run propagandists at Fox "News"?

Read your older posts on TOTV. All the same slant. That's fine. I don't like posts just made to stir anger and slam people. We all know what you mean about today's post and "the boys". There are people on both sides who are useless and ugly. Stay to the middle. Man.

It was an ugly night on TV. No one won. We as a country looked like a bunch of losers.

[Topspinmo]

The reporting of the truth, intensified during the peaceful marches of the 60's for civil rights and the end to Jim Crow laws...and when that brave lady refused to give up her bus seat.


Let’s see? Who in acted those jimmy crow laws? WW far far left of center.

[John41]

What happened to George Floyd was horrendous. But we don't know the whole story. But, we don't know that it was racially motivated. But it doesn't mean that all cops are bad cops or racists.

I'm sure that you wouldn't be happy if a group of these so called protestors set your house on fire because of the actions of one bad cop in Minneapolis.

Floyd was a violent thug who had a lethal dose of meth in his system plus a heart condition and essentially killed himself by fighting the police. The police followed procedure and a supreme court decision years ago prevents the police from either criminal or civil successful prosecution. Hope the cops sue Floyd’s family of miscreants for civil damages.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Floyd was a violent thug who had a lethal dose of meth in his system plus a heart condition and essentially killed himself by fighting the police. The police followed procedure and a supreme court decision years ago prevents the police from either criminal or civil successful prosecution. Hope the cops sue Floyd’s family of miscreants for civil damages.

The officer in question has been charged, indicted, and bail set for the crimes of second-degree manslaughter and second-degree murder. That would be a criminal charge. Those charges have not been dropped and attempts to plea bargain were rejected.

He is ALSO facing charges for unrelated tax evasion on multiple counts, including changing his legal place of residence to Florida because it was cheaper to register his Mercedes there - even though he doesn't actually live in Florida.

Chauvin (the cop that murdered Floyd) is also a thug. He's just a wealthier, paler-skinned thug. And it doesn't make what he did to Floyd right.

Floyd was not in danger of dying at the time the police arrived. He died because he was in a medical stress situation exacerbated by being held face down, handcuffed behind his back, with someone sitting on his legs, another kneeling on his back, and a third kneeling on his head.

And even after they saw that he had no pulse..and was totally limp..and lifeless..Chauvin continued to keep his knee planted firmly on Floyd's neck. For several minutes.

Chauvin wanted him dead, and then when he was dead, wanted to make SURE he was dead.

Chauvin is a thug.

Floyd might be a thug also. But he wasn't a thug trying to kill another thug at the time. Chauvin was.

[John41]

The officer in question has been charged, indicted, and bail set for the crimes of second-degree manslaughter and second-degree murder. That would be a criminal charge. Those charges have not been dropped and attempts to plea bargain were rejected.

He is ALSO facing charges for unrelated tax evasion on multiple counts, including changing his legal place of residence to Florida because it was cheaper to register his Mercedes there - even though he doesn't actually live in Florida.

Chauvin (the cop that murdered Floyd) is also a thug. He's just a wealthier, paler-skinned thug. And it doesn't make what he did to Floyd right.

Floyd was not in danger of dying at the time the police arrived. He died because he was in a medical stress situation exacerbated by being held face down, handcuffed behind his back, with someone sitting on his legs, another kneeling on his back, and a third kneeling on his head.

And even after they saw that he had no pulse..and was totally limp..and lifeless..Chauvin continued to keep his knee planted firmly on Floyd's neck. For several minutes.

Chauvin wanted him dead, and then when he was dead, wanted to make SURE he was dead.

Chauvin is a thug.

Floyd might be a thug also. But he wasn't a thug trying to kill another thug at the time. Chauvin was.

There is a saying, a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indite a cheese sandwich. The law is clear if you choose to read it. Like the other shootings all the cops in the Floyd case will be exonerated. Chauvin is out on bail. Doesn’t matter who is on the jury because a guilty verdict would be overturned on appeal if the judge didn’t already set it aside. Chauvin and those cops are heroes protecting us from thugs like Floyd who stick a gun in a pregnant woman’s stomach.

[Stu from NYC]

There is a saying, a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indite a cheese sandwich. The law is clear if you choose to read it. Like the other shootings all the cops in the Floyd case will be exonerated. Chauvin is out on bail. Doesn’t matter who is on the jury because a guilty verdict would be overturned on appeal if the judge didn’t already set it aside. Chauvin and those cops are heroes protecting us from thugs like Floyd who stick a gun in a pregnant woman’s stomach.

Agreed but Chauvin does have some degree of guilt for his actions.

Some day one of these protests will be about a model citizens but so far a bunch of thugs.

BTW a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

[John41]

Agreed but Chauvin does have some degree of guilt for his actions.

Some day one of these protests will be about a model citizens but so far a bunch of thugs.

BTW a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

What actions are you talking about? Kneeling on perps neck? That allowable procedure was revoked AFTER the Floyd incident. Kneeling too long? No time limit is specified. You might FEEL Chauvin is guilty of something but the law must be followed not people’s feelings.

[Lindsyburnsy]

If George Floyd had been white man, he wouldn't have been killed. That's why it was on national TV

[Joe V.]

If George Floyd had been white man, he wouldn't have been killed. That's why it was on national TV


That is insane.

[Funkman]

Interesting how some posters who don’t like the subject matter of the original post, but can’t refute it, try to change the subject instead...

But if he was white, his story wouldn’t even have been picked up by the national news.

How exactly would one refute something that you are simply guessing about?

Unless, of course, you have a working crystal ball.

[carlanddiane]

The officer in question has been charged, indicted, and bail set for the crimes of second-degree manslaughter and second-degree murder. That would be a criminal charge. Those charges have not been dropped and attempts to plea bargain were rejected.

He is ALSO facing charges for unrelated tax evasion on multiple counts, including changing his legal place of residence to Florida because it was cheaper to register his Mercedes there - even though he doesn't actually live in Florida.

Chauvin (the cop that murdered Floyd) is also a thug. He's just a wealthier, paler-skinned thug. And it doesn't make what he did to Floyd right.

Floyd was not in danger of dying at the time the police arrived. He died because he was in a medical stress situation exacerbated by being held face down, handcuffed behind his back, with someone sitting on his legs, another kneeling on his back, and a third kneeling on his head.

And even after they saw that he had no pulse..and was totally limp..and lifeless..Chauvin continued to keep his knee planted firmly on Floyd's neck. For several minutes.

Chauvin wanted him dead, and then when he was dead, wanted to make SURE he was dead.

Chauvin is a thug.

Floyd might be a thug also. But he wasn't a thug trying to kill another thug at the time. Chauvin was.

Thanks, really does say it all

[GoPacers]

If George Floyd had been white man, he wouldn't have been killed. That's why it was on national TV

Absolutely NOT TRUE. There are multiple instances of a white male being subdued and dying as a result of a knee to the neck, back, etc. In every case there are extenuating circumstances but that doesn't excuse the behaviours of poorly trained law enforcement officers.

Google Tony Timpa. Called 911 on himself and instead of getting the help he requested he died as a result. Neither George Floyd or Tony Timpa was a threat to anyone but themselves until the police arrived.

[Bay Kid]

If druggy Floyd hadn't been so drugged out, passing out counterfeit money and resisting arrest, we wouldn't be talking about this today.

[jimbomaybe]

The reporting of the truth, intensified during the peaceful marches of the 60's for civil rights and the end to Jim Crow laws...and when that brave lady refused to give up her bus seat.Do you have all the "truth" ? , all evidence, medical, pathology, drug screens, past medical history? all available video? detailed explanation of that evidence that is highly technical?

[John41]

Absolutely NOT TRUE. There are multiple instances of a white male being subdued and dying as a result of a knee to the neck, back, etc. In every case there are extenuating circumstances but that doesn't excuse the behaviours of poorly trained law enforcement officers.

Google Tony Timpa. Called 911 on himself and instead of getting the help he requested he died as a result. Neither George Floyd or Tony Timpa was a threat to anyone but themselves until the police arrived.

So you correctly say other perps have died resisting arrest by the same police techniques Chauvin used. But only Chauvin and associates were poorly trained because Floyd also died? Reread what you said. And how do you know Floyd was no threat when he was high on meth? The ME report says otherwise. And no credible expert would say a meth head is only dangerous to himself.
SOURCE The Meth Project
Methamphetamine has been known to cause extreme aggression, erratic behavior, and spark violence. Meth use can cause a host of changes to the brain that result in users doing things they would normally never do. Meth’s effect on the brain begins to make users paranoid of their surround

[Bay Kid]

So you correctly say other perps have died resisting arrest by the same police techniques Chauvin used. But only Chauvin and associates were poorly trained because Floyd also died? Reread what you said. And how do you know Floyd was no threat when he was high on meth? The ME report says otherwise. And no credible expert would say a meth head is only dangerous to himself.
SOURCE The Meth Project
Methamphetamine has been known to cause extreme aggression, erratic behavior, and spark violence. Meth use can cause a host of changes to the brain that result in users doing things they would normally never do. Meth’s effect on the brain begins to make users paranoid of their surround

There is a video of Floyd not wanting to get into the police car. Even then he kept saying he couldn't breath. He was out of control at that time and the police were being very nice to him. Floyd caused that problem and media made it our problem.

[MorTech]

CIA "Operation Mockingbird", yo.

They own your mind and body.

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