Roger Goodell Says the NFL Was Wrong

[Spikearoni]

Are the recent weeks of protest making a difference? Roger Goodell has now apologized and said the league was "wrong for not listening" to players who knelt during the national anthem in protest of police brutality" and in his address, he encouraged all
athletes to speak out and peacefully protest.

Although Goodell did not directly apologize to Colin Kaeperick who was previously ostracized for kneeling, Goodell's statement is significant as the focus of the NFL seems to be moving toward social justice and policing issues.

Once the games resume, it will be interesting to note which players and how many of them will be kneeling. If there is a significant number, will there be less people watching their favorite teams? Apparently, the league doesn't think so or doesn't care very much.

[Topspinmo]

I quit watching pro football 20 years ago. Could care less what NFL does.

[John_W]

I'll save $200 by not my renewing my NFL Sunday Ticket with Directv for the tenth year in a row. In which case, good-bye Directv. I'll have Sundays free to do other things!!

[Marvic 1]

Watch them for free, everybody and their Mother are doing it...

[John_W]

Watch them for free, everybody and their Mother are doing it...

Besides a jail-break Firestick, which is illegal, what other ways besides NFL Sunday Ticket can you watch all 13 games every Sunday?

[photo1902]

Cannot wait for the season to start!

[npwalters]

If NFL players start kneeling again I will do the same as I did 2 years ago.....turn it off.

[davem4616]

Roger is just playing the political card....he doesn't really give a damn about anything but his own personal power and his salary

When he didn't show up in Foxboro for the opening game the following year, like he always had the year after the Patriots won the Super Bowl that said it all

IMHO, he's nothing but a power drunk jerk...that is allowed to stay in his job because he sucks up to the owners and they don't really care what he does, because they are making a ton of $$$$ anyway you slice it

[Stu from NYC]

Let the ones he refuse to stand for our national anthem stay in the locker room.

No interest in players opinions on anything other than the game they play.

[Marvic 1]

Besides a jail-break Firestick, which is illegal, what other ways besides NFL Sunday Ticket can you watch all 13 games every Sunday?

That is the only way I know of: Firestick.... :angel:
I also was paying AT&T for the special Football sports bundle....

[Fredman]

Good old Roger blows with the wind

[photo1902]

Besides a jail-break Firestick, which is illegal, what other ways besides NFL Sunday Ticket can you watch all 13 games every Sunday?

There’s nothing illegal about “jail-breaking” a Firestick. Please cite your source where you claim it is.

[tophcfa]

Roger Goodell lost 100% of all respect a long time ago, at least with anyone who can differentiate clear and obvious right from wrong. After the way he fabricated deflate gate, in his efforts of defamation of the character of Tom Brady, nothing Goodell does holds any legitimacy whatsoever.

[John_W]

That is the only way I know of: Firestick.... :angel:
I also was paying AT&T for the special Football sports bundle....

Since AT&T bought Directv four years ago, it has lost 5 millions subscribers. Service is still good, I guess that Special Sports Bundle is a computer type deal. With NFL Sunday I also have the computer access included, although I never use it. I let my neighbor watch his Eagles games on his computer and then he got a Fire Stick at Market of Marion and he gets the local Philly channels.

[John_W]

There’s nothing illegal about “jail-breaking” a Firestick. Please cite your source where you claim it is.

Hacking or Jailbreaking Amazon Fire Stick is not illegal. No one is going to sue you for jailbreaking your Fire Stick. Installing Kodi or any other such FireStick apps are also not illegal. However, if you access copyright content (HBO, NFL Network, Golf Channel, Local channels in another market, etc) without paying a copyright or access fee is illegal, and then you can be very much in trouble with your government or your ISP. It is very much like torrenting. While torrents are itself not illegal but copyrighted content is.

[Steve9930]

Money, Money, Money, Its the Money, its a rich mans world.......
I quit watching the NFL long ago. They are spoiled brats and over paid. That protest game works both ways, no fans, no money. no players salaries. Works for me. If the NFL was disbanded the world would still turn on its axis.

[sam&rog]

Keep the cameras off the players during the National Anthem. End of story.

[stadry]

maybe 20 yrs ago, was listening to imus on the drive-in to the shop - warner wolf was reporting on sports back then,,, imus asked about the cowboy's upcoming season,,, wolf's reply was probably '10 & 6 !'
back then, cowboys were in a slump - imus was surprised & ask'd ' 10 & 6 ?'
wolf's answer - '10 arrests, 6 convictions !'
i turned off pro sports & haven't missed them !

[Chloe Girl]

Roger is such a wimp!!

[coalminer]

Kneeling has always been a show of respect and admiration until this instance when Colin wanted to bring attention to police brutality. If his cause was to bring attention to abortion or going to church, I wonder how many of these ultra patriotic would have surfaced.

[iht2209]

Hmmmm your description sounds similar to another person. Hmmm I can’t put my finger on who it is.
Hmmmm 🤔

[alan5676]

Support your local business. Watch at City Fire or World of Beer.

[ColdNoMore]

Kneeling has always been a show of respect and admiration until this instance when Colin wanted to bring attention to police brutality.

If his cause was to bring attention to abortion or going to church, I wonder how many of these ultra patriotic would have surfaced.

A very interesting question.

While no one can say for sure, since it will never happen...I have my own opinion as to the answer.

[fastboat]

So the NFL is bowing once again to the BLM group. Watch, all the networks will no longer start coverage 'til after the National Anthem has been played and the players have a chance to get up off they knee.

[sipops]

I will never know the answer to that, I stopped watching the day Kaeppernak took the knee and have not seen one play since. No not even the Superbowls, and I don't miss it at all.

[Scorpyo]

Roger is just playing the political card....he doesn't really give a damn about anything but his own personal power and his salary

When he didn't show up in Foxboro for the opening game the following year, like he always had the year after the Patriots won the Super Bowl that said it all

IMHO, he's nothing but a power drunk jerk...that is allowed to stay in his job because he sucks up to the owners and they don't really care what he does, because they are making a ton of $$$$ anyway you slice it
If I’m not mistaken I believe you’re calling him a capitalist. Ethics are in the eye of the beholders bank account.

[Paporter]

Are the recent weeks of protest making a difference? Roger Goodell has now apologized and said the league was "wrong for not listening" to players who knelt during the national anthem in protest of police brutality" and in his address, he encouraged all
athletes to speak out and peacefully protest.

Although Goodell did not directly apologize to Colin Kaeperick who was previously ostracized for kneeling, Goodell's statement is significant as the focus of the NFL seems to be moving toward social justice and policing issues.

Once the games resume, it will be interesting to note which players and how many of them will be kneeling. If there is a significant number, will there be less people watching their favorite teams? Apparently, the league doesn't think so or doesn't care very much.

Goodell, NFL Owners and Players need to stay out of politics and be bipartisan, if they want fans to support their teams. Our Country is over wrought with politics from those living in the DC, Hollywood bubble.

[JP]

Ridiculous. What a wimp.

[John_W]

Roger is such a wimp!!

For $40 million a year with bonus, he wants the games to proceed.

As ESPN's Adam Schefter reported, Goodell made a base salary of $4 million in 2019 in what is part of the five-year contract that could be worth as much as $200 million if a number of incentives are met.

[merrymini]

This guy is a spineless idiot. Hit them in the wallet.

[kkeennyy]

Goodell is a White Sissy, Sissy, Sissy Bowing down to the Blacks. What about the Men who died defending our Freedom and the American way of life {FREEDOM} and the FLAG of The USE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The NFL has always been a big booster of the US Military, all during the complaints about kneeling they kept up that honor and military personal were still coming to games . From the very beginning it was made clear that this was no disrespect for flag, but a plea for social justice . Many people took the message to heart by donating time and money to causes that were helping young men and woman .who knows maybe more will carry on the he message of peaceful demonstrators who are marching now. This multi tour airborne combat vet will keep his NFL ticket and if people don’t understand about peaceful protest, try reading up on Martin Luther King

[ColdNoMore]

The NFL has always been a big booster of the US Military, all during the complaints about kneeling they kept up that honor and military personal were still coming to games . From the very beginning it was made clear that this was no disrespect for flag, but a plea for social justice . Many people took the message to heart by donating time and money to causes that were helping young men and woman .who knows maybe more will carry on the he message of peaceful demonstrators who are marching now. This multi tour airborne combat vet will keep his NFL ticket and if people don’t understand about peaceful protest, try reading up on Martin Luther King

:bigbow:...:bigbow:

[lwmilo]

Are the recent weeks of protest making a difference? Roger Goodell has now apologized and said the league was "wrong for not listening" to players who knelt during the national anthem in protest of police brutality" and in his address, he encouraged all
athletes to speak out and peacefully protest.

Although Goodell did not directly apologize to Colin Kaeperick who was previously ostracized for kneeling, Goodell's statement is significant as the focus of the NFL seems to be moving toward social justice and policing issues.

Once the games resume, it will be interesting to note which players and how many of them will be kneeling. If there is a significant number, will there be less people watching their favorite teams? Apparently, the league doesn't think so or doesn't care very much.

Protesting for rights and kneeling while the National Anthem is played are two different subjects. Roger made yet another cow towing remark in apologizing

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

You bring attention to an important issue peacefully by any means necessary

[elenG]

When are people going to get it? This is a football game! Do your protesting somewhere else! For those who didn’t know this looks like disrespecting the American flag! Wrong place buddy. There’s a time and place and it’s not at a game!!

[kenoc7]

If NFL players start kneeling again I will do the same as I did 2 years ago.....turn it off.

That is your right and it will be your loss. Kneeling is a respectful activity (think church) and was never about the flag or the military.

[Hogfan55]

If the NFL or NBA were playing in my front yard I would pull the curtains. I’m tired of sports being hijacked by politics. It used to be one of the few things I could do to avoid the controversies of the world and just enjoy the spirit of competition but those days are over I guess.

[Bellavita]

taking a knee was not to disgrace the flag it was a protest. I always found it odd that taking a knee was dishonoring the flag, when we kneel to pray. To me it is the most honoring thing, in any case it was about Police injustice. White people just haven't felt it, like people of color do. They are profiled it is a proven fact. I will be watching NFL with glee as I have never stopped, I understood what the protest was about. Why don't you educate yourself and read , DEVIL IN THE GROVE, about Lake County Sherriff Willis V. McCall who was in office from 1944-1972 and he killed 2 young black men in cold murder in 1951. Can you imagine if we had cell phones back then? WE watched George Floyd die and now you should be awoke, if your not... your not paying attention or you are a psychopath.

[Rosebud1949]

Anthem time is NOT THE TIME TO PROTEST.. whatever the reason. Stay in the locker room if you cannot behave during its playing. You are an American Citizen, , you are being PAID to play.. that is why you are there.... NOT TO PROTEST.. do that after the game or outside the stadium. The OWNERS MUST take some of the blame here.. but yet again it is about the ALMIGHTY $$$$$$$$$$$ and not common decency SHAME ON THEM

[nikonuser1]

Well, looks like another year of my not watching the NFL. I miss it, but I just can't take the attitude of a bunch of millionaires acting out their feelings like this. Why can't they wait until the National anthem is over?

[colls57]

thank you

[bilcon]

You can go to Gators Dockside and watch it free, but you have to buy something to drink and eat, which you would do at home. In the long run, it is much cheaper and you get to hang out with normal people. When some loser kneels for the pledge you can all boo together. GO GIANTS! Oh well, I can dream.

[Annie66]

Roger is just playing the political card....he doesn't really give a damn about anything but his own personal power and his salary

When he didn't show up in Foxboro for the opening game the following year, like he always had the year after the Patriots won the Super Bowl that said it all

IMHO, he's nothing but a power drunk jerk...that is allowed to stay in his job because he sucks up to the owners and they don't really care what he does, because they are making a ton of $$$$ anyway you slice it

Don't sugar-coat the issue. Tell us how you really feel.

[Nodonuts@me.com]

Get politics out of (un)professional sports. We are REQUIRED to stand for our National Anthem because it is in the US Code;

36 U.S. Code § 301. National Anthem
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(a) Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
(Pub. L. 105–225, Aug. 12, 1998, 112 Stat. 1263; Pub. L. 110–417, [div. A], title V, § 595, Oct. 14, 2008, 122 Stat. 4475.)

[Scorpyo]

Anthem time is NOT THE TIME TO PROTEST.. whatever the reason. Stay in the locker room if you cannot behave during its playing. You are an American Citizen, , you are being PAID to play.. that is why you are there.... NOT TO PROTEST.. do that after the game or outside the stadium. The OWNERS MUST take some of the blame here.. but yet again it is about the ALMIGHTY $$$$$$$$$$$ and not common decency SHAME ON THEM
How dare you use logic, reason and intelligence in your opinion. Shame on you. Don't you know that all cops are evil racist pigs (I guess that includes my son). Even the black cops are racists (even though I don't know how that works). Can't wait for the Colins' of the world to get rid of the wicked police. I'll put a social worker on my speed dial in case I get robbed, assaulted or worse. I'm sure they'll make me feel so much better. But let's look put all seriousness aside for a moment. If your $4 million to $40 million job was on the line would you say the opposite of what you feel. I believe we would all follow in his footsteps. Lawyers, politicians and even car salesmen do it daily and for a lot less money.

[Spikearoni]

Protesting for rights and kneeling while the National Anthem is played are two different subjects. Roger made yet another cow towing remark in apologizing

Kneeling was the form taken by Colin K to protest for rights. How are they "two different subjects"?

[John_W]

The code states that persons present are expected to stand and face the flag, if there is one. Civilians should stand to attention with right hand over heart, while military personnel in uniform and veterans should salute throughout. I always wondered why do they play the anthem before an NFL game? They don't play it before a PGA Golf Tournament.

Civilian correct way

https://media.defense.gov/2010/May/07/2000365712/-1/-1/0/100507-F-4094W-006.JPG

Military and veterans correct way

https://m.citizensvoice.com/polopoly_fs/1.2558396!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_700/image.jpg

Incorrect and disrespectul ways

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[Sabella]

The past few months have showed we can live without sports. Any sport that stays out of politics we should support. By the way- have you ever tried to buy any Super Bowl Ticket( even the worst seat) unless your rich forget it.

[Bikeracer2009]

I don't watch football anymore but if the players want to take a knee during the national anthem I don't have problem with it. I will still be the same person and enjoy my life regardless. If they're not allowed to take a knee it will not change the person's beliefs so the person will still harbor the same feelings.
Basically, nothing happens either way unless you choose to make it an issue.
At least that's how I see it.

[stan the man]

The code states that persons present are expected to stand and face the flag, if there is one. Civilians should stand to attention with right hand over heart, while military personnel in uniform and veterans should salute throughout. I always wondered why do they play the anthem before an NFL game? They don't play it before a PGA Golf Tournament.

Civilian correct way

https://media.defense.gov/2010/May/07/2000365712/-1/-1/0/100507-F-4094W-006.JPG

Military and veterans correct way

https://m.citizensvoice.com/polopoly_fs/1.2558396!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_700/image.jpg

Incorrect and disrespectul ways

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M_GYKzlxv20/maxresdefault.jpg
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Stop play National Anthem at sporting events. Exception is the winner of gold metal in the olympics.

[Klatu]

Everyone must bend the knee -- to pressure groups. The Woke movement is a religion and repenting, confessing, getting on your knees -- physically or in words -- is required for repentance of sin. Ongoing repentance is required, which includes repeating words of faith, supporting each proposal from the Woke prophets and condemning the pagans who do not believe the way you do. Roger G. has repented and bowed the knee; so he is ok......for a while. Now, it is up to the viewing public and season ticket holders to vote with their money and their eyeballs. What will they do? Tune in, listeners, to tomorrow's episode of BLM.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Does anyone here go to professional games people are still buying beers and texting and whatever during the playing .snd especially before 911 people were slumped in there chairs , hats on talking to each other did any of you who complain about Colin kneeling say anything . Oh sure let’s all boycott our local papa Johns and cost kids money I’m sure that will make everyone feel better. As for the NFL they will continue to put out a great product

[JP]

How could it be possible that as the commissioner of the NFL, he makes $40,000,000. How ridiculous. That job should pay about $200,000 tops. Most players are so overpaid too. Reduce all the salaries, reduce the sport box fees and make it more affordable for everyone.

[ColdNoMore]

How could it be possible that as the commissioner of the NFL, he makes $40,000,000. How ridiculous. That job should pay about $200,000 tops. Most players are so overpaid too. Reduce all the salaries, reduce the sport box fees and make it more affordable for everyone.
OK.

What, if anything then, do you think should happen with the NFL's overwhelmingly white (only two of color, neither African-American) billionaire owners...who are the ones making the real money off of the "hired help?"

The last I checked, not a single NFL owner has ever suffered from CTE (in fact, they went to great lengths trying to deny it existed/was caused by the game)...so at least they have that going for them. :oops:

[JP]

OK.

What, if anything then, do you think should happen with the NFL's overwhelmingly white (only two of color, neither African-American) billionaire owners...who are the ones making the real money off of the "hired help?"

The last I checked, not a single NFL owner has ever suffered from CTE (in fact, they went to great lengths trying to deny it existed/was caused by the game)...so at least they have that going for them. :oops:

Why are the overwhelming players on the NFL teams black? Shouldn't their roster represent the proportion of blacks in the country-- currently 14%?

[tophcfa]

Dam, when I read the title to this thread I thought Goodell was referring to deflate gate : )

[manaboutown]

Let the ones he refuse to stand for our national anthem stay in the locker room.

No interest in players opinions on anything other than the game they play.

Here is some background on CK who's started the kneeling. How the Radicalization of Colin Kaepernick Explains the Current American Crisis | The American Spectator (https://spectator.org/radicalization-colin-kaepernick-american-crisis-protests-riots/?fbclid=IwAR2Dr70Qv0avU7ceiL8AMHCtDT1ifUY9hhFLaJ32 NIFhwxam_x1mmNQ2LWY)

[ColdNoMore]

Why are the overwhelming players on the NFL teams black? Shouldn't their roster represent the proportion of blacks in the country-- currently 14%?

Because at that level, they all have had the opportunity...to prove themselves by then.

Let's start at Kindergarten, totally level that same playing field for the next 13 years...and then compare and watch what happens. ;)

[ColdNoMore]

Goodell apologized...and did the right thing. :thumbup:


Good for him! :boom:

[anothersteve]

Goodell apologized...and did the right thing. :thumbup:


Good for him! :boom:

That's your opinion, I differ.

Steve

[ColdNoMore]

NASCAR banned the confederate flag...and did the right thing. :thumbup:


Good for them! :boom:

[anothersteve]

NASCAR banned the confederate flag...and did the right thing. :thumbup:


Good for them! :boom:

Again...opinion..

In my opinion............
Nascar is history



Steve

[transplanted]

Yep - that's what they get paid all those millions for - to criticize others. How about play ball - get check. The end. If they want to change things - put on a REAL uniform and do something about it. Quit talking about it and BE about it!
Don't care what their politics are.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

How could it be possible that as the commissioner of the NFL, he makes $40,000,000. How ridiculous. That job should pay about $200,000 tops. Most players are so overpaid too. Reduce all the salaries, reduce the sport box fees and make it more affordable for everyone. people should get paid what ever someone thinks there worth , the owners think he is worth it , just like all our bosses thought what we were worth . Or should we have the dreaded socialism that seems to be so hated on here, or maybe it’s good socialism if we can get something that we want cheaper