George Floyd

[michtofla]

Look up George Floyd’s police record. He was a career criminal and a thug. It was terrible the way he died but he was going to get it one way or another sooner or later!

[blueash]

Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

[John_W]

Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

Your statement makes no sense. Use the language you use with your friends. If I was talking to my friends about George Floyd, I would say he's was thug. You live in gutter, you die in the gutter. He should of got 20 years for armed home invasion, he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while 5 others ransacked the house. He was lucky they offered a plea bargain and served five years. How many friends, people, others do you know that have served five years in prison for armed robbery?

https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/George-Floyd-aggravated-assault-2009.jpg

[Rango]

He was murdered by a police officer. His record does not matter

[anothersteve]

And away we go..............again
Steve

[Stu from NYC]

Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

It is a tragedy that he was murdered but he was not exactly a good citizen that we would be proud to have as our neighbor. And yes would characterize him as a thug.

[manaboutown]

Well, he certainly was not an upstanding citizen walking down the street minding his own business who was hassled because he was black. That's for sure. I seriously doubt these cops were arresting him because he was black. He was under the influence and had an amazingly long record of drug convictions as well as the aggravated robbery conviction where he had held a gun to a (black) woman's stomach.

Is anyone else wondering why he left Texas where he had lived much of his life? Do they have something like a three strikes and you're out rule meaning life imprisonment with no parole for another conviction?

Looks like they do.

"The Three Strikes Law in Texas and Other States
Texas’ three strikes law was first enacted in 1952. California’s law was passed in 1994. After three separate felony convictions, an individual is subject to a life sentence in prison. The law and others like it in other states was enacted to cut down on recidivism – offenders who go on to commit future crimes. Lawmakers believe that career criminals can’t be rehabilitated. To stop them from continuously committing crimes and tying up the justice system, they impose harsh penalties after a third offense.

In most states with repeat offender laws, the law only applies to felony convictions. About half the states in the country have some form of a three-strike law."

From: Does Texas Have a Three Strikes Law? - Mark Diaz (https://texascriminaljustice.com/does-texas-have-a-three-strikes-law/)

[600th Photo Sq]

He was murdered by a police officer. His record does not matter

John W points out and shows what type of person this person was. And people like you choose to ignore it.

This man was a born again hoodlum, rotten to the core and yet thousands ignore it.

[Jayhawk]

Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

Dictionary:

thug

/THəɡ/

Learn to pronounce

noun


a violent person, especially a criminal.
"he was attacked by a gang of thugs"


What do you mean when you say it?

[Gpsma]

John W points out and shows what type of person this person was. And people like you choose to ignore it.

This man was a born again hoodlum, rotten to the core and yet thousands ignore it.

And #WhiteMuffins who never lived in black communities or worked with black workers will never understand.

And I have....

[manaboutown]

And #WhiteMuffins who never lived in black communities or worked with black workers will never understand.

And I have....

Understand what?

In the army I played in the band and was the only white guy in the RA barracks for a couple of months. Too, I was a jazz drummer, and played in bands where color did not matter as no one paid any attention to it. I have been the only white man in a black (unlicensed) night club where I had the pleasure of seeing and listening to Lionel Hampton play.

Perhaps we musicians are different...

[vintageogauge]

No man, good or bad, deserves to be killed they way he was. This is going to be like every other episode of protest and riot due to police brutality, nothing will be accomplished, a few crumbs will be tossed out to quiet those protesting and that's where it will end. Anyone that believes disbanding police departments is a good thing is an idiot, the cities that do that will end up like Deadwood, the wild, wild, west over again.

[billethkid]

Yes his record does matter.

[retiredguy123]

I find it disturbing that the OP and most posters on this thread are just stating facts and logical conclusions. But, they are immediately labeled as racists.

I also find it interesting that it is okay for Obama to use the term "thugs" but not other people. Obama is not even black. He's half black.

[Velvet]

Whatever language we use to describe Floyd, he was a person and as a person he had rights and one of them was not to be suffocated.

[Stu from NYC]

Whatever language we use to describe Floyd, he was a person and as a person he had rights and one of them was not to be suffocated.

Nobody is saying that he was not murdered, it was a tragedy and the murderer should be punished.

Sad that his death was used as an excuse to loot and destroy

[DeanFL]

...Not to minimize GF's death at the hands of police but>>>

wonder if any of the lberal Press has mentioned THIS?>>>>>>


By Robert Gearty | Fox News

CHICAGO'S CRIME WAVEPublished 6 hours ago
Chicago sees its deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours: report

Bloody Chicago recorded 18 murders on May 31, making it the city’s deadliest day in 60 years.

The dubious milestone was reached on a day Chicago was roiled by another round of protests and looting following the Memorial Day death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis.

The 18 deaths tallied by the University of Chicago Crime Lab made May 31, 2020 the single-most violent day in six decades, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Monday. The Crime Lab numbers go back only to 1961.

Chicago sees its deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours: report | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-saw-its-deadliest-day-in-60-years-with-18-murders-in-24-hours-report)

[Steve9930]

George Floyd died because of a heart attack brought on by the stress of the confrontation and the drugs in his system. He's no martyr for me. He chose his life style. The police on the scene were off the rails and have been charged with their crimes. The real martyrs were the innocent shop owners who lost their business and the people who were killed by the thugs in the protest. The data does not support all this outrage. The incident was used by ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter to forward their agendas. Both of those organizations are terrorist in nature. This whole ordeal has made it virtually impossible to get justice for anybody involved. I'm pretty much done with it and had enough.

[riley2011]

What’s wrong with thug? If the shoe fits.......

[bowlingal]

yes, it was a terrible act by the police, and should be punished accordingly. However, everyone is making him out to be a saint and he was not.

[Chloe Girl]

I totally agree that Floyd's death was a tragedy and am glad that the cops that were involved will be punished for killing him. But I hate the fact that Floyd is being held in such high esteem because a Martin Luther King he wasn't and his rap sheet proves it. So, some folks want to abolish the law and order of the police. Let's see how they like living in anarchy!!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Whatever language we use to describe Floyd, he was a person and as a person he had rights and one of them was not to be suffocated.

I haven't heard anyone that disagrees with that.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Is police brutality justified by the criminal's record? What about civil society? The president wanted to call in the military last week ... the generals stood in his way ... if they had not would that have been called "martial law"? If he had declared martial law would the conservatives have objected? Or would they blame the liberals?

Who is saying that police brutality is justified? The officers have been charged with a crime and will stand trial.

What else would you like to see happen?

The actions of a few bad apples in our police force are not a reason to change and entire system.

Incidents of police brutality are few and far between. Incidents of the police killing someone while arresting them are ever more rare. Yet there are some that want to use this for political purposes and benefit from all of the publicity, protests and demonstrations.

The thing is that in six months this will all have blown over, the protests, riots and demonstrations will end and it will be a footnote in history.

[martynpat]

His record and character aren't in question. The question here is police use of excessive force. When a man is handcuffed and not breathing he is subdued. Force beyond that is murder. What happened to protect and serve?

[Mrodmh]

Google Tony Timpa. How much did his life matter?

[DeeCee Dubya]

Well, he certainly was not an upstanding citizen walking down the street minding his own business who was hassled because he was black. That's for sure. I seriously doubt these cops were arresting him because he was black. He was under the influence and had an amazingly long record of drug convictions as well as the aggravated robbery conviction where he had held a gun to a (black) woman's stomach.

Is anyone else wondering why he left Texas where he had lived much of his life? Do they have something like a three strikes and you're out rule meaning life imprisonment with no parole for another conviction?

Looks like they do.

"The Three Strikes Law in Texas and Other States
Texas’ three strikes law was first enacted in 1952. California’s law was passed in 1994. After three separate felony convictions, an individual is subject to a life sentence in prison. The law and others like it in other states was enacted to cut down on recidivism – offenders who go on to commit future crimes. Lawmakers believe that career criminals can’t be rehabilitated. To stop them from continuously committing crimes and tying up the justice system, they impose harsh penalties after a third offense.

In most states with repeat offender laws, the law only applies to felony convictions. About half the states in the country have some form of a three-strike law."

From: Does Texas Have a Three Strikes Law? - Mark Diaz (https://texascriminaljustice.com/does-texas-have-a-three-strikes-law/)

Gotta love Texas justice. I spent almost 8 years in the Lone Star State and had to deal with violent young black males all the time.

[Mardarlowe]

I know the language I use to describe him is spot on.

[Skunky1]

Innocent until proven guilty. Protect and serve.

[WesMan]

Your statement makes no sense. Use the language you use with your friends. If I was talking to my friends about George Floyd, I would say he's was thug. You live in gutter, you die in the gutter. He should of got 20 years for armed home invasion, he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while 5 others ransacked the house. He was lucky they offered a plea bargain and served five years. How many friends, people, others do you know that have served five years in prison for armed robbery?

https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/George-Floyd-aggravated-assault-2009.jpg

The truth comes out!!!!!

[npmcnmom]

Absolutely correct

[melcirullo@sbcglobal.net]

Look up George Floyd’s police record. He was a career criminal and a thug. It was terrible the way he died but he was going to get it one way or another sooner or later!
Maybe your not aware that this isn't about GEORGE FLOYD!

[jeffy]

Quote........ That's how they justify and hide their racism/bigotry/prejudice. :bigbow:

[Dust Bunny]

After seeing his photo and learning both he and the cop worked the same club as security red flags started popping up for me. No Iam not surprised he was a career criminal.

[MOMOH]

I think that if someone knelt on your neck for 9 minutes while others held you down, you might see things clearly and understand what this is about.

[nututv]

I'm glad that all you folks that take offense to the correct description of this guy being called a Thug won't be on my side when the poo hits the fan. lol
:popcorn:

[JulieER]

He did NOT deserve to be slowly MURDERED by a POLICE OFFICER, thug or no thug!!!! The bad cops are killing good black people as well. They need to GO!!!

[jweber555@gmail.com]

Yes, he had a criminal history but he WAS Murdered.

[Bmacs]

So was the cop!

[JulieER]

Characterize the MURDERER.

[JulieER]

The oppression that the black people live under, the fear they have every day. The moms and dads that have to raise their children coaching them constantly how to respond and act around a white cop or they could end up dead.

[Bay Kid]

Racism? The cop was white, Floyd is black. So this makes it racism? What if the cop was black and Floyd White? Did the cop call him names? Who decided this was racism?

Sorry his death was wrong but there was a lot more to this than the media wants us to know.

[JulieER]

His record matters only in a trial and sentencing. Not when being murdered by a cop when being taken in for questioning over a $20 bill. The officers are holding him down and grinding a knee into his windpipe didn’t even know his record at the time - but they did know he was black.

[Bay Kid]

The oppression that the black people live under, the fear they have every day. The moms and dads that have to raise their children coaching them constantly how to respond and act around a white cop or they could end up dead.

All cops live under the fear of thugs. How do you control a drugged out thug that is a threat to your life? We wouldn't have this problem if families taught respect not fear.

[wsachs]

Didn't think police were the judge AND the jury.

[dewilson58]

The moms and dads that have to raise their children coaching them constantly how to respond and act around a white cop or they could end up dead.


This is true for any and all parents, it's just a question of what the child does with the coaching. More whites are killed by police than any other race even though whites do not cause the majority of the crimes.

[Dilligas]

He was murdered by a police officer. His record does not matter
Yes, but he is being held up as a martyr, someone to look up to. Prosecute the killer, but do not make the victim out to be a hero.

[hrenner]

So...murdering black criminals seems to be ok to most of you.
Sad

[Cranford61]

No man, good or bad, deserves to be killed they way he was. This is going to be like every other episode of protest and riot due to police brutality, nothing will be accomplished, a few crumbs will be tossed out to quiet those protesting and that's where it will end. Anyone that believes disbanding police departments is a good thing is an idiot, the cities that do that will end up like Deadwood, the wild, wild, west over again.
Seven people shot in 3 shootings in Brooklyn last night! And in Breaking News, it will be hot and humid in Florida today.

[Stu from NYC]

So...murdering black criminals seems to be ok to most of you.
Sad

That is what you get out of all the posting going on here?

Who is saying let the cop go free?

[Cranford61]

The oppression that the black people live under, the fear they have every day. The moms and dads that have to raise their children coaching them constantly how to respond and act around a white cop or they could end up dead.

Non-black parents also coach there children how to respond to police interactions.

[graciegirl]

Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

I don't think that is fair. What George Floyd was, was a person who had chosen at some time in his life to start taking intoxicants . He was arrested and convicted and incarcerated for several years, actually four different times. He then died as a result of police brutality.

I am interested in hearing how we as a community of people could have changed what happened to him early on? Could we have seen to a better education? Could we somehow influenced his family life? Could we have given over more money in taxes for a nicer neighborhood? Could we have gotten to know him better? Could we have voted to see that he got higher wages? Could we have built community centers so that their was a good place for him to hang out? Could we have paid more money for social services to be sure that he was always kindly and fairly treated? Could we have marched? Could we have taken courses to truly understand what bigotry is? Could we have shared our earnings with him directly so that he would not have any reason to join a group that forced entry into a pregnant woman's home and took money? Could we see that all guns are confiscated? Could we pass gun control laws so that people have a very, very, difficult time buying a gun?

How exactly could we, more particularly I have changed this outcome for him. In my long lifetime, I have not heard anyone including my grandfather who was a police officer for 35 years use that word that we are not saying. My mother died when I was eight days old, and my grandparents raised me, my father remarried when I was two and my stepmother didn't want me so I was not raised in their fine house. My grandmother died when I was twelve. In fact it was only when I was eighteen after my grandfather died that I stayed there for awhile until I got my first apartment. . But fortunately I was white and a good student, I guess. I don't know. I have only been this person.

There are so many of us who grew up with bigotry and racism in a world long ago who are trying to not deserve that label. I really do hate labels. They are often used unfairly. They are often used unfairly.

[Guitarman1951]

Defund the police, yeah that's the ticket!! I've never heard a more absurd concept in my life. Cities that are actually considering something this stupid better talk to business owners cause they'll be packing up and getting out of Dodge City before the anarchy begins. Next you'll hear whining about out of control mayhem, fires and emergencies for which no one responds anymore. And this, after our guns are also taken away. Criminals are just giddy about this prospect. We need law and order leaders who can come up with realistic options to problems of police brutality, like better training, not run away from it and putting law abiding citizens at risk.

[Paporter]

Well said.

[Paporter]

Well, he certainly was not an upstanding citizen walking down the street minding his own business who was hassled because he was black. That's for sure. I seriously doubt these cops were arresting him because he was black. He was under the influence and had an amazingly long record of drug convictions as well as the aggravated robbery conviction where he had held a gun to a (black) woman's stomach.

Is anyone else wondering why he left Texas where he had lived much of his life? Do they have something like a three strikes and you're out rule meaning life imprisonment with no parole for another conviction?

Looks like they do.

"The Three Strikes Law in Texas and Other States
Texas’ three strikes law was first enacted in 1952. California’s law was passed in 1994. After three separate felony convictions, an individual is subject to a life sentence in prison. The law and others like it in other states was enacted to cut down on recidivism – offenders who go on to commit future crimes. Lawmakers believe that career criminals can’t be rehabilitated. To stop them from continuously committing crimes and tying up the justice system, they impose harsh penalties after a third offense.

In most states with repeat offender laws, the law only applies to felony convictions. About half the states in the country have some form of a three-strike law."

From: Does Texas Have a Three Strikes Law? - Mark Diaz (https://texascriminaljustice.com/does-texas-have-a-three-strikes-law/)
Well said.

[Saluce]

I don’t know of anyone who thinks his death was anything but horrific, law enforcement included!!! The officer(s) involved have been fired, charged and will go through the judicial system like anyone else!! I also don’t know of anyone who supports these officers again also including law enforcement!!!
I’m just not understanding why the protests/rioting s are continuing?!?!? The supposed reason was justice!! Well it’s happening, but apparently they aren’t happy with that and now along with the support of certain politicians, are calling for the defunding of police! All the while they continue to destroy Towns & assaulting innocent officers that had absolutely nothing to do with the original incident. But somehow there are people out there who believe this is acceptable!!!!

[speedo8357]

The only problem is I do not think this will blow over in a few months. Special interest groups will use this to expand social welfare programs. Programs that have miserably failed the black community. I went to elementary school in Bedford Stuy Brooklyn back in the 60s. The class was racially mixed — but what we all had in common was a family. Almost everyone in my class had a mother and father. And we started the day with the pledge of allegiance and a prayer. Social programs over the last 50 years has all but incentivized poor families to rely on the state, and fathers are no longer a presence in the home. Also while I do not have the stats on this, I would hazard a guess and say that God is not present in a lot of homes either. In the words of Alexander Solzhenitsyn lamenting the demise of his homeland Russia. . .”men have forgotten God, that is why this has happened . . .”

[jerseyjoy]

Fact: Floyd was arrested because he tried to buy cigarettes with a counterfeit $20 bill. The store clerk caught it, asked for the cigarettes, and Floyd ran out the door with the unpaid cigarettes. He was not arrested because of his race.
Fact: Floyd’s autopsy revealed meth, fentanyl, heart disease and COVID. Allegedly body cam video shows the 6’6” man was resisting arrest. He was not restrained because of his race.
Fact: The official autopsy shows he did not die of strangulation. Yet the press and majority of public call it murder and have convicted the officer without a trial, on the basis of a video from a bystander without the police body cam showing the entire arrest or dialogue.
Yes, it is more than sad that his cries for air went unheeded; however, people in that state use any ploy to be unrestrained. I am aware of the lies and deceptions of alcoholics and drug addicts, first-hand.
Yes, it is sad that he died. It is sad when anyone dies. But to call it murder, without a trial, shows the self-righteous are the truly judgmental ones. Hard to believe there will be a fair trial, but hope so.

[leolabrecque]

No man, good or bad, deserves to be killed they way he was. This is going to be like every other episode of protest and riot due to police brutality, nothing will be accomplished, a few crumbs will be tossed out to quiet those protesting and that's where it will end. Anyone that believes disbanding police departments is a good thing is an idiot, the cities that do that will end up like Deadwood, the wild, wild, west over again.

what happened to him between the time he was handcuffed standing up to the time he was laying on the ground next to police car with knee on his neck. Did he argue, punch, fought, or spit on the officer. He was a felon trying to pass a $ 100 counterfeit bill. Something happened but will never know, will we.

[GoodLife]

Fact: Floyd was arrested because he tried to buy cigarettes with a counterfeit $20 bill. The store clerk caught it, asked for the cigarettes, and Floyd ran out the door with the unpaid cigarettes. He was not arrested because of his race.
Fact: Floyd’s autopsy revealed meth, fentanyl, heart disease and COVID. Allegedly body cam video shows the 6’6” man was resisting arrest. He was not restrained because of his race.
Fact: The official autopsy shows he did not die of strangulation. Yet the press and majority of public call it murder and have convicted the officer without a trial, on the basis of a video from a bystander without the police body cam showing the entire arrest or dialogue.
Yes, it is more than sad that his cries for air went unheeded; however, people in that state use any ploy to be unrestrained. I am aware of the lies and deceptions of alcoholics and drug addicts, first-hand.
Yes, it is sad that he died. It is sad when anyone dies. But to call it murder, without a trial, shows the self-righteous are the truly judgmental ones. Hard to believe there will be a fair trial, but hope so.

All factual thanks

[Tsmart]

GF was murdered. But he was NOT a martyr, nor was his life a good example for anyone. His long criminal record is available to everyone.

[Kerlampert]

I find it curious that they both worked at the same club. Suggesting that they might have known each other prior to the "fatal" night.

[GoodLife]

Obama stands by the term 'thugs,' White House saysObama stands by the term 'thugs,' White House says (https://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2015/04/29/obama-white-house-baltimore-stephanie-rawlings-blake/26585143/)

Use of the word THUG was okay in 2015, it became racist code language in early 2017

[mflasch]

He was murdered by a police officer. His record does not matter
Had he complied with what the police officers were telling him to do he would be back at his life of crime. He was high on dope and passing counterfeit money at the time of the encounter. The police officer was wrong and is being prosecuted, but don't make this criminal look like he had no accountability in the situation.

[roscoguy]

Some really interesting questions here! I'm not going to answer them all, but I'd like to pick and choose among them, if that's OK.
I am interested in hearing how we as a community of people could have changed what happened to him early on? Could we have seen to a better education?
Very possibly, but that would have probably required admitting long ago that inner city and/or historically black school districts needed help & would have been difficult to actually do for many reasons. Difficult, but not impossible.
Could we have gotten to know him better?
Another decent idea. Maybe "we" personally could not have known George himself, but in a general sense, communication between members of the community couldn't have hurt.
Could we have built community centers so that their was a good place for him to hang out?
That seems like a very good idea! It's pretty well established that kids living in poverty, without anything constructive to occupy their time are more prone to turn to crime.
Could we have marched?
I'm sure that many more white people showing active support for African-American issues would have been very welcome!
Could we have taken courses to truly understand what bigotry is?
Possibly the best idea of the bunch. I doubt that most white people (myself included) have any real idea what people of color encounter in their lifetimes. Much food for thought here. Thanks for that, Gracie!

[PHILLY RICHARD]

He is being made into some kind of hero. It is all exploitation by some very bad people.

[Luvs21putt]

I’m sorry no matter his record a cop should not have kneeled on his neck and made him slowly and excruciatingly die a horrible death. NO. Please hold your breath for a minute and imagine someone on your neck and back so you can’t take another and then tell me this was ok. I dare you but you won’t do it.

[Lindsyburnsy]

The police had no idea what his record was when they murdered him. George Floyd was executed, without a fair trial, for what is reported as a counterfeit $20 bill.

[Stu from NYC]

I don't think that is fair. What George Floyd was, was a person who had chosen at some time in his life to start taking intoxicants . He was arrested and convicted and incarcerated for several years, actually four different times. He then died as a result of police brutality.

I am interested in hearing how we as a community of people could have changed what happened to him early on? Could we have seen to a better education? Could we somehow influenced his family life? Could we have given over more money in taxes for a nicer neighborhood? Could we have gotten to know him better? Could we have voted to see that he got higher wages? Could we have built community centers so that their was a good place for him to hang out? Could we have paid more money for social services to be sure that he was always kindly and fairly treated? Could we have marched? Could we have taken courses to truly understand what bigotry is? Could we have shared our earnings with him directly so that he would not have any reason to join a group that forced entry into a pregnant woman's home and took money? Could we see that all guns are confiscated? Could we pass gun control laws so that people have a very, very, difficult time buying a gun?

How exactly could we, more particularly I have changed this outcome for him. In my long lifetime, I have not heard anyone including my grandfather who was a police officer for 35 years use that word that we are not saying. My mother died when I was eight days old, and my grandparents raised me, my father remarried when I was two and my stepmother didn't want me so I was not raised in their fine house. My grandmother died when I was twelve. In fact it was only when I was eighteen after my grandfather died that I stayed there for awhile until I got my first apartment. . But fortunately I was white and a good student, I guess. I don't know. I have only been this person.

There are so many of us who grew up with bigotry and racism in a world long ago who are trying to not deserve that label. I really do hate labels. They are often used unfairly. They are often used unfairly.

Obviously you have grown to be a good human being despite the hardship you were put thru and I commend you.

There is racism in the world and that is a fact. I believe by my words and action I am not a racist. Do not see how the racism in the world is my fault but do my best to do my small part and leave the world a better place than I found it.

I do think that personal responsibility plays a good part in all this and horrified to see all the destruction that came about as a result of the Floyd murder.

Protest is fine and in my younger days did my share but would never ever destroy or hurt another person or his property in my protests.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Jeffrey Epstein ruined hundreds of lives, but he was rich and could pay off, one way or another, everybody who could have held him accountable. He then continued to commit the same crime over and over. He was a life long conman in an expensive suit with a slew of luxury properties, including an island.

[ldivens]

It is sad this man is being honored in a manner most veterans are not

[ColdNoMore]

Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

Absolutely dead on! :thumbup:

I can't count the times, while being around other white men who thought they were surrounded by 'like-thinkers,' revealed their TRUE nature...by making outrageous racist comments or casually used the 'N' word. :ohdear:

[NEW BEGINNINGS]

Murder is still illegal. It's even worse when done by Law Enforcement

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Here's a very balanced view of the situation.

Candace Owens: "I DO NOT support George Floyd!" & Here's Why! | Durtty Daily - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtPfoEvNJ74)

[Cybersprings]

Innocent until proven guilty. Protect and serve.

Just want to make sure that you are using the term innocent when referring to the police in the incident.

[youngerday]

And now he is being made to look like a hero. Was really criminal

[camaguey48]

What happened to him was so wrong and the four officers will be held accountable and locked up for life. Everyone is screaming for justice and it will be served through the courts, not on the streets. Stop the madness.

[Joe V.]

The police had no idea what his record was when they murdered him. George Floyd was executed, without a fair trial, for what is reported as a counterfeit $20 bill.


You know this how? His record indicates he is well known by Police. Esp. the guy kneeling on his neck.

[DeafDeaf]

All of us carry around implicit biases and unconscious stereotypes in our heads. It’s part of being human. But when those biases go uninterrupted, they can cause real harm, like police officers hurting people of color who pose no threat or prosecutors seeking stiffer sentences for people of color charged with a crime than white defendants accused of the same conduct. Ensuring that people in law enforcement are trained to recognize and overcome their biases is essential to a system that upholds equal justice and keeps all communities safe.

[Joe C.]

George Floyd's death was NOT A TRAGEDY !!!
If a tornado wipes out an orphanage, a school full of children, or a hospital, etc., that's a tragedy.
When someone murders another, that is an ATROCITY.
When the Jews were put in concentration camps, that was an ATROCITY.

IMHO...a tragedy is when something bad happens that humans cannot control.
An atrocity is something bad that is done by an out of control human.

[kkeennyy]

Cop did not mean 2 kill him, But his continued criminal actions helped to get him in the mess he ended up in, Passing Countrfit Checks at the time of his arrest..............

[dlb8159@yahoo.com]

This is true....why is everyone making a martyr out of this man and burning and looting their own neighborhoods. Look in the past, most, not all are “thugs”. And they are not the great person they are portrayed to be.

[kkeennyy]

Well TUFF ??? His Record and his current wrong doings is why he is DEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PugMom]

After seeing his photo and learning both he and the cop worked the same club as security red flags started popping up for me. No Iam not surprised he was a career criminal.
thats the part i cant figure out! george worked for a security co., & the cop did too. i'm sitting very quietly watching & waiting. i would not be surprised the cop knew it was george, yet continued the restraint on a cuffed suspect. maybe this can get a 1st degree murder charge if there's proof of a possible beef or conflict of interest

[jagdl]

No one deserves to lay in the street in handcuffs and be slowly deprived of blood and oxygen until you die while people stand around and watch. NO ONE. And it should not be condoned by anyone regardless of their personal circumstances.

[PugMom]

thank you. many define george with labels to deflect, i can say he was an EXAMPLE of extreme brutality.

[OhioBuckeye]

Look up George Floyd’s police record. He was a career criminal and a thug. It was terrible the way he died but he was going to get it one way or another sooner or later!

It was terrible how he died. We were always told, don’t take the law in your hands & kill someone, I guess this peace maker thought he was ammuned to this. I better not say any more or TOTV will banned me from this website again. Have a great day!

[Twitchard]

This is not about George Floyd’s past. Similar to those like you upset about Colin K. Kneeling in peaceful protest for police brutality you’re completely missing the point.

[kathy1516]

He was murdered by a police officer. His record does not matter
Floyd’s record might not matter but it’s disgusting how the media circus and the black civil rights leaders are front and center using his death to further divide the country. He was no hero and I find it offensive that he is being depicted as such.

[bobcat75]

I dont think anybody could help the Black person, I was incarcerated for a year and I was one of the 10% white. I talked to these people and had a 26 year old brag to me he was a gangster with 28 pages of criminal record starting at 6. Yes 6, he would go into the nearest 7/11 and steal a candy bar for himself. He would go home eating it when his MOM yelled at him for spending his money. He told his mom he stole it and it was free. She yelled at him for being selfish and not getting enough for the rest of the family. Next time he stole all he could and ran, This happned over 100 times. One kid was 5 when he was charged with murder, he told me he watched a guy kill another guy for a drug problem and when the murderer ran gave him the gun to hold for police. He was a minor and was released to a juvenule court with one year probation. I asked him if his family ever just leave the bad area and he told me, The Government offed new housing to any one wishing to leave. Noway the drug money was there easy money.Can we help NO WAY they like that life

[Jayhawk]

i can say he was an EXAMPLE of extreme brutality.

You are correct. It was brutal and uncalled for.

But also correct are those who point out George was a 4-time loser. He should not have been killed (I'd say manslaughter, not murder), and the cop needs to do some serious time.

Bottom line, the prisons are full of innocent good guys, at least if you ask them. I imagine the funny money story is true since no one has rebutted it and we are 2 weeks into this nightmare.

[Hogfan55]

The oppression that the black people live under, the fear they have every day. The moms and dads that have to raise their children coaching them constantly how to respond and act around a white cop or they could end up dead.

FBI/DOJ Statistics: 2018
2925 Blacks Killed
2600 Killed by blacks
234 by whites

2019
Killed by cops
235 Blacks
370 Whites
Only 19 unarmed blacks killed by police and half of those were by black officers.
Why is Black Lives Matter more concerned with the 19 than the 2925? It doesn’t fit their narrative. I think the black parents you refer to should teach their kids to be wary of their own if they want to make it home safe, not the cops.

[GoodLife]

The love of criminality has been on full display with this administration for the past 3 plus years we have watched an elected leader of this nation engage in Lies, dirty money, refusal to take responsibility, tax fraud, using prostitutes, denigrating women, school yard name calling, mocking disabled people, abusing power, misusing public funds, refusing to pay bills....and on and on....

I'll take all those over using the FBI to spy on an incoming administration based on a fraudulent Russian sourced dossier.

[Stu from NYC]

FBI/DOJ Statistics: 2018
2925 Blacks Killed
2600 Killed by blacks
234 by whites

2019
Killed by cops
235 Blacks
370 Whites
Only 19 unarmed blacks killed by police and half of those were by black officers.
Why is Black Lives Matter more concerned with the 19 than the 2925? It doesn’t fit their narrative. I think the black parents you refer to should teach their kids to be wary of their own if they want to make it home safe, not the cops.

My parents taught when stopped by a police officer to stay respectful and follow their orders even when you do not think you are wrong.

I learned to argue with them but always in a respectful manner.

[PugMom]

You are correct. It was brutal and uncalled for.

But also correct are those who point out George was a 4-time loser. He should not have been killed (I'd say manslaughter, not murder), and the cop needs to do some serious time.

Bottom line, the prisons are full of innocent good guys, at least if you ask them. I imagine the funny money story is true since no one has rebutted it and we are 2 weeks into this nightmare.
yes, but there's that 1 fact i cant get out of my mind-he worked for a security company. how did he manage to get that job with a record? i'm not excusing crime, just posing the questions. to me there are missing pieces about this entire thing

[NoMoSno]

yes, but there's that 1 fact i cant get out of my mind-he worked for a security company. how did he manage to get that job with a record? i'm not excusing crime, just posing the questions. to me there are missing pieces about this entire thing
It's not that hard to get a job as a bouncer in a bar with his physical size.
He was also a porn star.
George Floyd Porn Star!!!This is Why He May Have Been Killed By Cop (https://iharare.com/george-floyd-was-a-porn-star/)

[The Mountaineer]

He moved to Minnesota to start a new life. There is NO evidence that I have seen that he was "a thug" in Minnesota. He complied with police requests, the video shows, but he was killed anyway. Previous criminal record is irrelevant. Being killed by a police officer while on the ground and while other officers watched IS relevant. Stop victimizing the victim! Stop treating people of color different than others. Actions, not skin pigmentation, should determine proper responses. This is still America, isn't it?

[jebartle]

George Floyd died because of a heart attack brought on by the stress of the confrontation and the drugs in his system. He's no martyr for me. He chose his life style. The police on the scene were off the rails and have been charged with their crimes. The real martyrs were the innocent shop owners who lost their business and the people who were killed by the thugs in the protest. The data does not support all this outrage. The incident was used by ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter to forward their agendas. Both of those organizations are terrorist in nature. This whole ordeal has made it virtually impossible to get justice for anybody involved. I'm pretty much done with it and had enough.

:popcorn: hmmmmm!!

[jebartle]

It is sad this man is being honored in a manner most veterans are not

Apples and Oranges, I could not possibly honor Veterans MORE!

[Bellavita]

Your profound ignorance is glowing. George Floyd was a human being, going to "get it" what planet do you live on? What back alley mentality do you reside in. 4 policemen killed this man and he did not "deserve to die" Shame on you, shame on you. I certainly hope you don't call yourself a Christian. It makes no difference if he had a criminal background or a speeding ticket are you some sort of fortune teller that it would happen one way or the other. Shame on you.

[Bellavita]

OMG really? you have no idea the amount of felons that are cooking your food or serving you. Are we putting people in prison to rehabilitate or be left out forever? This post is outrageous

[manaboutown]

It's not that hard to get a job as a bouncer in a bar with his physical size.
He was also a porn star.
George Floyd Porn Star!!!This is Why He May Have Been Killed By Cop (https://iharare.com/george-floyd-was-a-porn-star/)

I found a few clips with him in them on youtube, G to R (for language, no above the waist frontal nudity) rated, everybody dressed and just chatting prior to any clothing removal or physical activity.

So "Big Floyd the Landlord" was a multifaceted man of many talents. Who would have guessed he was an actor. Thank you for your post!

[manaboutown]

yes, but there's that 1 fact i cant get out of my mind-he worked for a security company. how did he manage to get that job with a record? i'm not excusing crime, just posing the questions. to me there are missing pieces about this entire thing

It is amazing but airlines hire former felons as baggage handlers and for other jobs - ever wonder why things of value might be missing from your checked luggage? Even some Sheriffs' and Police departments hire them as they are under pressure and have quotas and is very difficult to find people without criminal records among the minority groups they must hire.

[michtofla]

All. any black kid has to to stay out of trouble is obey the law. George Floyd wouldn’t be dead if he obeyed the law!

[Curtisbwp]

Look up George Floyd’s police record. He was a career criminal and a thug. It was terrible the way he died but he was going to get it one way or another sooner or later!

I urge you to look up Candice Owens, i have been following her for a few years.

[TOTV Team]

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