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ColdNoMore
06-09-2020, 01:53 PM
I totally agree that recognition of all the good LEO's... is absolutely warranted. :thumbup:

They perform a needed and hazardous job...often with not enough recognition.

While we're on that subject though, let's not also forget to appreciate all of those others who have hazardous jobs...that make/made our lives better. :cool:

So this thread is for all of those retiree's here in The Villages, that worked in dangerous occupations...and made it safely to retirement here in TV.

My hat is off to you. :ho:


Most Dangerous Jobs In America (click here) (http://www.ajc.com/business/employment/these-are-the-most-dangerous-jobs-america/x2MOTeEYCgkt2zYCLfqfJJ/)

Here are the 25 most dangerous jobs in America...IN ORDER of danger:


1- Logging workers- Those that provide the wood for our homes, businesses and so many other things.
2- Fishers and related fishing workers- I love my fish/crab/lobster, so my hats off to these folks too.
3- Aircraft pilots and flight engineers- Kinda self-explanatory.
4- Roofers- A group that we see every day here in TV and which I want no part of...especially in the middle of summer.
5- Refuse and recyclable material collectors- Can't imagine what we would do, without these people.
6- Driver/sales workers and truck drivers- Since most of our "stuff" comes by truck...
7- Farmers, ranchers and other agricultural managers- And for those of us who like to eat, well...
8- Structural iron and steel workers- No thanks. I like 'terra-firma.' "The more firma, the less terra." :D
9-First-line supervisors of construction trades and extraction workers- More people we see every day around here.
10-First-line supervisors of landscaping, lawn service and groundskeeping workers- Ditto to the above.
11-Electrical power-line installers and repairers- Ditto.
12-Grounds maintenance workers- Ditto.
13-Miscellaneous agricultural workers-Ditto.
14-Helpers, construction trades- Ditto.
15-First-line supervisors of mechanics, installers and repairers-Ditto.
16-Police and sheriff’s patrol officers
Construction laborers
Maintenance and repair workers, general
Mining machine operators
Operation engineers and other construction equipment operators
Bus and truck mechanics and diesel engine specialists
Electricians
Heating, air conditioning, and refrigeration mechanics and installers
Athletes, coaches, umpires and related workers
Industrial truck and tractor operators

GoodLife
06-09-2020, 02:06 PM
I totally agree that recognition of all the good LEO's... is absolutely warranted. :thumbup:

They perform a needed and hazardous job...often with not enough recognition.

While we're on that subject though, let's not also forget to appreciate all of those others who have hazardous jobs...that make/made our lives better. :cool:

So this thread is for all of those retiree's here in The Villages, that worked in dangerous occupations...and made it safely to retirement here in TV.

My hat is off to you. :ho:


Most Dangerous Jobs In America (click here) (http://www.ajc.com/business/employment/these-are-the-most-dangerous-jobs-america/x2MOTeEYCgkt2zYCLfqfJJ/)

LOL show your list to a cop that worked the inner city.

Bay Kid
06-10-2020, 07:42 AM
I believe the order of this list will be changing.

Topspinmo
06-10-2020, 08:28 AM
Don't forget Forums? how would we express our views and stamp out others opinions without them!:icon_wink:

ffresh
06-10-2020, 09:05 AM
LOL show your list to a cop that worked the inner city.

The "point" of your post is pointless. First, it's not his list; it's a list compiled by the Dept of Labor, i.e. bureau of labor statistics, concerning the ranking of lethality in certain occupations. Second, It really has NO bearing what any particular member feels about the ranking - the ranking is statistically correct and easily verified.

Fred

GoodLife
06-10-2020, 11:45 AM
The "point" of your post is pointless. First, it's not his list; it's a list compiled by the Dept of Labor, i.e. bureau of labor statistics, concerning the ranking of lethality in certain occupations. Second, It really has NO bearing what any particular member feels about the ranking - the ranking is statistically correct and easily verified.

Fred

There's only one category of job in the list where most of the deaths are caused by people shooting at you. The rest are accidents, crashes, falls etc.

It's a big difference if to wonder every day if someone is going to pull a gun on you are if you are in the sights of a rifle. I'll bet Police are moving up on this list as we speak.

TexaninVA
06-10-2020, 12:42 PM
I totally agree that recognition of all the good LEO's... is absolutely warranted. :thumbup:

They perform a needed and hazardous job...often with not enough recognition.

While we're on that subject though, let's not also forget to appreciate all of those others who have hazardous jobs...that make/made our lives better. :cool:

So this thread is for all of those retiree's here in The Villages, that worked in dangerous occupations...and made it safely to retirement here in TV.

My hat is off to you. :ho:


Most Dangerous Jobs In America (click here) (http://www.ajc.com/business/employment/these-are-the-most-dangerous-jobs-america/x2MOTeEYCgkt2zYCLfqfJJ/)

You forgot to include ballet dancers and yoga devotees.

stadry
06-27-2020, 05:42 AM
if life-threatening danger is a criterium, cab drivers ought to be towards the top of the list

Topspinmo
06-27-2020, 05:32 PM
Athletes, coaches, umpires and related workers

:1rotfl:

tophcfa
06-27-2020, 08:37 PM
I totally agree that recognition of all the good LEO's... is absolutely warranted. :thumbup:

They perform a needed and hazardous job...often with not enough recognition.

While we're on that subject though, let's not also forget to appreciate all of those others who have hazardous jobs...that make/made our lives better. :cool:

So this thread is for all of those retiree's here in The Villages, that worked in dangerous occupations...and made it safely to retirement here in TV.

My hat is off to you. :ho:


Most Dangerous Jobs In America (click here) (http://www.ajc.com/business/employment/these-are-the-most-dangerous-jobs-america/x2MOTeEYCgkt2zYCLfqfJJ/)

Here is hoping all those employees listed above get the appropriate hazard pay to compensate them for the risk inherit in their jobs. Post edited because the list of hazardous jobs did not come through when the quote was posted??? Go back to the OP to see the job list.

OrangeBlossomBaby
06-27-2020, 09:24 PM
There's only one category of job in the list where most of the deaths are caused by people shooting at you. The rest are accidents, crashes, falls etc.

It's a big difference if to wonder every day if someone is going to pull a gun on you are if you are in the sights of a rifle. I'll bet Police are moving up on this list as we speak.

But this isn't a thread about "list of most likely to be shot at."

You could post a new thread about that though, if you can find such a list.

anothersteve
06-27-2020, 09:38 PM
But this isn't a thread about "list of most likely to be shot at."

You could post a new thread about that though, if you can find such a list.

But the post IS..."Recognizing the most dangerous jobs in America" ....right now the Police are right up there.

Steve

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 09:57 PM
You forgot to include ballet dancers and yoga devotees.

Why would you even say or imply...that it's a list I made?

It really helps to educate...if folks would actually read the link. :oops:


To determine the 25 most dangerous jobs in America, website 24/7 Wall St. reviewed fatal injury rates for 71 occupations from the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries program.

These occupations are ranked based on the number of fatal accidents in 2018 per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers.

perrjojo
06-27-2020, 10:05 PM
I think FireFighters are right up there with police.

anothersteve
06-27-2020, 10:12 PM
I think FireFighters are right up there with police.

Agreed!


Steve

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 10:39 PM
Let me throw out this "crazy" (but proved)...observation and thought.

"It's those who "think" instead of relying on actual facts...that area big part of a LOT of the problems we're seeing."

Some folks are extremely gullible, too lazy to do their own research with legitimate sites and simply prefer to take the lazy way out...by being sucked in by 'confirmation bias.'

Any wonder or question, why it's been so pathetically easy for our enemies around the world (think Russia/China/North Korea)...to so easily manipulate a lot of American citizens?

They KNOW the inherit prejudice of so many in this country, it's not even work...it's more like 'child play manipulation' for them. :ohdear:

It's also perfectly analogous to the current 'use/don't use' argument...regarding masks for Covid-19. :thumbup:

anothersteve
06-27-2020, 10:43 PM
Let me throw out this "crazy" (but proved)...observation and thought.

"It's those who "think" instead of relying on actual facts...that area big part of a LOT of the problems we're seeing."

Some folks are extremely gullible, too lazy to do their own research with legitimate sites and simply prefer to take the lazy way out...by being sucked in by 'confirmation bias.'

Any wonder or question, why it's been so pathetically easy for our enemies around the world (think Russia/China/North Korea)...to so easily manipulate a lot of American citizens?

They KNOW the inherit prejudice of so many in this country, it's not even work...it's more like 'child play manipulation' for them. :ohdear:

It's also perfectly analogous to the current 'use/don't use' argument...regarding masks for Covid-19. :thumbup:

What does that have to do with recognizing the most dangerous jobs in America, the subject of the thread?

Steve

Kenswing
06-27-2020, 10:46 PM
Let me throw out this "crazy" (but proved)...observation and thought.

"It's those who "think" instead of relying on actual facts...that area big part of a LOT of the problems we're seeing."

Some folks are extremely gullible, too lazy to do their own research with legitimate sites and simply prefer to take the lazy way out...by being sucked in by 'confirmation bias.'

Any wonder or question, why it's been so pathetically easy for our enemies around the world (think Russia/China/North Korea)...to so easily manipulate a lot of American citizens?

They KNOW the inherit prejudice of so many in this country, it's not even work...it's more like 'child play manipulation' for them. :ohdear:

It's also perfectly analogous to the current 'use/don't use' argument...regarding masks for Covid-19. :thumbup:

Yep.. Look at all the American citizens that have been manipulated into violence, looting and tearing down 100+ year old statues because they are all of a sudden offensive. Look at the businesses that have been manipulated because the name of their products are all of a sudden offensive.

Yep. There are a lot of gullible people out there.

Robert11
06-27-2020, 11:11 PM
[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1780779][SIZE="3"]I totally agree that recognition of all the good LEO's... is absolutely warranted. :thumbup:

They perform a needed and hazardous job...often with not enough recognition.

While we're on that subject though, let's not also forget to appreciate all of those others who have hazardous jobs...that make/made our lives better. :cool:

So this thread is for all of those retiree's here in The Villages, that worked in dangerous occupations...and made it safely to retirement here in TV.

My hat is off to you.

Why do you people give this person the satisfaction of a reply. It doesn't matter what the topic is your opinion is wrong. Stop answering and maybe it won't be fun anymore. By the way keep your hat.

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 11:15 PM
What does that have to do with recognizing the most dangerous jobs in America, the subject of the thread?

Steve

LOL

Ya think maybe that's due to all of those who don't like the facts of the actual job data and are trying to inject their own...non-factual "opinions?":oops:

One only has to read a number of preceding posts, to determine something that basic, simple...and easily answered. :ho:

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 11:21 PM
Why do you people give this person the satisfaction of a reply. It doesn't matter what the topic is your opinion is wrong. Stop answering and maybe it won't be fun anymore. By the way keep your hat.
Everyone is entitled to their own "opinions"...just not to their own "facts." :ho:


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ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 11:27 PM
Yep.. Look at all the American citizens that have been manipulated into violence, looting and tearing down 100+ year old statues because they are all of a sudden offensive. Look at the businesses that have been manipulated because the name of their products are all of a sudden offensive.

Yep. There are a lot of gullible people out there.

That's simply an obfuscating lie. :oops:

These issues are FAR from being..."SUDDENLY offensive."

They've been going on...for a VERY long time. :ohdear:

I encourage everyone to educate themselves...which will quickly bear this fact out. :ho:

anothersteve
06-27-2020, 11:27 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own "opinions"...just not to their own "facts." :ho:


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Exactly. Stop and think about that for a while.

Steve

anothersteve
06-27-2020, 11:31 PM
Yep. There are a lot of gullible people out there.

You ain't just whistling Dixie!

Steve

Nucky
06-27-2020, 11:34 PM
Put the job of Moderator near the Top 'O The List! On TOTV'S of course. Rough Gig.

Kenswing
06-27-2020, 11:37 PM
That's simply an obfuscating lie. :oops:

These issues are FAR from being..."SUDDENLY offensive."

They've been going on...for a VERY long time. :ohdear:

I encourage everyone to educate themselves...which will quickly bear this fact out. :ho:
There you go running off the rails again.. You brought up manipulation. And yes, people are being manipulated.

And yes, this "being offended" or "woke" is sudden. People are just waiting to be told what they should be mad about next. I've never heard anyone complain about any of the product names that are being tossed out now. You are right though, it is manipulation.

Get them riled up about police brutality. Check.. Get them riled up about perceived social injustice. Check.. Now tell them that rioting and looting and chaos is acceptable. Check. It's ALL manipulation.

And calling me a liar will do you no good if we ever meet in person.. :ho: Then again that's not likely since you never leave your keyboard.

blueash
06-28-2020, 12:03 AM
Data is available. In 2019 there were 7 firefighter deaths (https://www.firefighternation.com/2020/01/02/2019-lodds-not-really-a-low-year/#gref) in the country that involved deaths from flame, gas, explosion. There were over 50 additional deaths mostly from heart attacks. Details of each reported death are HERE (https://apps.usfa.fema.gov/firefighter-fatalities/fatalityData/list?deathYear=2019)

Police death data (https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2019-statistics-on-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty)is also available for 2019. There were 89 LEO deaths. Of the 89, 48 were felonious thus happened during encounters with civilians. The other 41 were accidental mostly traffic accidents. Interestingly the felonious deaths were extremely associated with the South.

27 officers were feloniously killed in the South
9 in the Midwest
9 in the West
1 in the Northeast
2 in Puerto Rico

and so were the accidental deaths

22 of the accidental deaths occurred in the South
8 in the Midwest
8 in the West
3 in the Northeast

as for all the postings about how different 2020 will be, the data thru June 27 is online (https://nleomf.org/preliminary-fatalities)

Preliminary 2020 Fallen Officer Fatalities
JAN 1 THROUGH JUNE 27, 2020 VS. JAN 1 THROUGH JUNE 27, 2019
2020 2019 % Change
Total Fatalities 58 74 -22%
Firearms-related 26 28 -7%
Traffic-related 25 23 +9%
Other Causes 7 23 -70%

This is so far one of the least lethal years for LEO's. From 1919 to 1936 every year there were over 200 LEO deaths, and of course a much smaller population both of citizens and LEO's. The last year there were over 200 was 2007. There are nearly 700,000 LEO's in the US. There are over one million firefighters of which about 70% are volunteer and 30% career.