Scumbag who ambushed police caught!

[ColdNoMore]

Boogaloo Member charged (click here) (http://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-deputy-ambush-scrawled-010424408.html)

Steven Carrillo, a California man who was charged with murder after he ambushed two Santa Cruz County deputies, scrawled phrases tied to an online far-right extremist movement in blood on a car shortly before he was detained.

Carrillo killed Sgt. Damon Gutzwiller, critically injured another deputy and threw pipe bombs at police on June 6th, Santa Cruz District Attorney Jeffrey S. Rosell alleged on Thursday.

Before he was apprehended, Carrillo scrawled the word “boog” and “I became unreasonable” in blood on the hood of a car. “Boog” is short for boogaloo, a far-right anti-government movement that began on the extremist site 4chan and aims to start a second American civil war.

Heemeyer is known by the nickname Killdozer in extremist groups online and is frequently quoted in Boogaloo Discord chats and Facebook groups.

“Heemeyer is revered in Boogaloo groups,” said Megan Squire, a computer science professor at Elon University who tracks online extremism and is monitoring several private Boogaloo groups online.


How many of these type scumbags are using the cover of peaceful protests, to foment their racism through violence, so that some folks...will blame ALL peaceful protestors?

Here's hoping that the police can discover and apprehend ALL of those who are doing the looting and violence...including these types. :ho:

[graciegirl]

Boogaloo Member charged (click here) (http://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-deputy-ambush-scrawled-010424408.html)



How many of these type scumbags are using the cover of peaceful protests, to foment their racism through violence, so that some folks...will blame ALL peaceful protestors?

Here's hoping that the police can discover and apprehend ALL of those who are doing the looting and violence...including these types. :ho:

I am not a marcher. I think it is a waste of time. Peaceful marchers are almost an oxymoron. Most people get self righteous-er and more angry and that doesn't help anything. What usually divides us? Is it color? Or is it something else? Now people are getting all mean and judgmental toward people who are white and accuse them of "systemic racism." I bet you a dollar a lot of hands would go up behind computers reading this, if I asked if you went to see just WHAT "systemic racism" is. Most of us want to be good people. Most people are not haters of other races. Most of us who are older are trying to keep our hearts and minds open. Most of us consider all arguments. One of the worst things that can happen to humans is to think they know better than others what is right.

I haven't ever in my life heard of a Boogaloo. Has anyone else reading this? I know not one soul in my eighty years who would ever consider KKK people anything but criminals.

[ColdNoMore]

I am not a marcher. I think it is a waste of time. Peaceful marchers are almost an oxymoron. Most people get self righteous-er and more angry and that doesn't help anything. What usually divides us? Is it color? Or is it something else? Now people are getting all mean and judgmental toward people who are white and accuse them of "systemic racism." I bet you a dollar a lot of hands would go up behind computers reading this, if I asked if you went to see just WHAT "systemic racism" is. Most of us want to be good people. Most people are not haters of other races. Most of us who are older are trying to keep our hearts and minds open. Most of us consider all arguments. One of the worst things that can happen to humans is to think they know better than others what is right.

I haven't ever in my life heard of a Boogaloo. Has anyone else reading this? I know not one soul in my eighty years who would ever consider KKK people anything but criminals.

Those who did it so that you, as a female, could have the right to vote...would totally disagree. :oops:




One of the worst things that can happen to humans is to think they know better than others what is right.
:agree:

There's WAAAAY too much of that going around.

Particularly if there's a concerted effort, to gang up, bash and attack...those that don't think exactly as we do. :ho:

[Bucco]

I am not a marcher. I think it is a waste of time. Peaceful marchers are almost an oxymoron. Most people get self righteous-er and more angry and that doesn't help anything. What usually divides us? Is it color? Or is it something else? Now people are getting all mean and judgmental toward people who are white and accuse them of "systemic racism." I bet you a dollar a lot of hands would go up behind computers reading this, if I asked if you went to see just WHAT "systemic racism" is. Most of us want to be good people. Most people are not haters of other races. Most of us who are older are trying to keep our hearts and minds open. Most of us consider all arguments. One of the worst things that can happen to humans is to think they know better than others what is right.

I haven't ever in my life heard of a Boogaloo. Has anyone else reading this? I know not one soul in my eighty years who would ever consider KKK people anything but criminals.

Just an FYI, and research will relate their incitements

This particular article relates to efforts to incite in Las Vegas
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"3 self-proclaimed members of the far-right 'boogaloo' movement were arrested on domestic terrorism charges for trying to spark violence during protests"
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Right-wing '''Boogaloo''' men arrested on terror charges, conspiracy to incite violence - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/3-boogaloo-men-terror-charges-george-floyd-protest-riot-conspiracy-2020-6)

[graciegirl]

Those who did it so that you, as a female, could have the right to vote...would totally disagree. :oops:




:agree:

There's WAAAAY too much of that going around.

Particularly if there's a concerted effort, to gang up, bash and attack...those that don't think exactly as we do. :ho:

There is not one of us who are innocent. Some have larger groups of friends. Maybe that is the reason for "tribes". I am just trying to think...........Maybe what our parents taught us as little children is what guides us in some way forever, or didn't teach us. Maybe it is a genetic thing that makes us choose certain things and people and distance ourselves from others. Every woman in our family is a strong woman and none of them have married men who didn't like strong women. The men are strong themselves and kind. This goes back to our great grandmother. If voting for women hadn't been made a law, our granddaughter would have been working on it, just like those other gals before her. She is a brilliant woman with the gift of words.....and patience. I think she has found a good partner. That makes it all the nicer.

[ColdNoMore]

Just an FYI, and research will relate their incitements

This particular article relates to efforts to incite in Las Vegas

"3 self-proclaimed members of the far-right 'boogaloo' movement were arrested on domestic terrorism charges for trying to spark violence during protests"


Right-wing '''Boogaloo''' men arrested on terror charges, conspiracy to incite violence - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/3-boogaloo-men-terror-charges-george-floyd-protest-riot-conspiracy-2020-6)

Ignoring those people who think they already know it all and refuse to do any meaningful research, others will instead want to keep learning/increasing their knowledge...by constantly seeking (through a variety of legitimate sources) to keep up with what is really happening.

Those are the folks who are not surprised...these groups exist.

I have to admit though, even I was shocked...at this part of your link.

The three men previously served in the US Navy, Army, and Air Force, according to the filing.

THAT...is very concerning. :ohdear:

[graciegirl]

Ignoring those people who think they already know it all and refuse to do any meaningful research, others will instead want to keep learning/increasing their knowledge...by constantly seeking (through a variety of legitimate sources) to keep up with what is really happening.

Those are the folks who are not surprised...these groups exist.

I have to admit though, even I was shocked...at this part of your link.



THAT...is very concerning. :ohdear:

That is surprising. To me. But things have changed in all sorts of ways. Younger people have not as much respect for the military as older people. We lived/live in different times and have different criteria for what is considered a hero.

I think for some the absence of a bad record is an honorable thing, and for others to achieve something mankind was lacking or needed brings honor. For others raising children who are responsible and kind and do not burden anyone unnecessarily are heroes and heroines. I have not met many heroes, but I knew they were real heroes when I met them. Some have had disabilities and some have had superior abilities. Some are unknown to the big world but only known and cherished by a select few. Some of my heroes have died. (way too many and too often anymore) I look forward to meeting more heroes before I leave.

[tophcfa]

Boogaloo Member charged (click here) (http://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-deputy-ambush-scrawled-010424408.html)



How many of these type scumbags are using the cover of peaceful protests, to foment their racism through violence, so that some folks...will blame ALL peaceful protestors?

Here's hoping that the police can discover and apprehend ALL of those who are doing the looting and violence...including these types. :ho:

That will be difficult for the defunded police to do. Perhaps a social worker can have a talk with the scumbags?

[Bucco]

That will be difficult for the defunded police to do. Perhaps a social worker can have a talk with the scumbags?

Guess it depends on how you wish to define "defund". Most understand,,,,some find it convenient to be literal on this subject, but general and non specific on others.

[roscoguy]

Boogaloo Member charged (click here) (http://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-deputy-ambush-scrawled-010424408.html)



How many of these type scumbags are using the cover of peaceful protests, to foment their racism through violence, so that some folks...will blame ALL peaceful protestors?

Here's hoping that the police can discover and apprehend ALL of those who are doing the looting and violence...including these types. :ho:

Can you please stop reducing the font sizes in your posts? Sometimes they are ridiculously difficult to read! Pretty please?? The weird color combos don't exactly help either...

[ColdNoMore]

Can you please stop reducing the font sizes in your posts? Sometimes they are ridiculously difficult to read! Pretty please?? The weird color combos don't exactly help either...

I don't reduce ANY fonts.

I'm not even sure how you could go below the default size (1).

I either leave them as they are set up under the default of TOTV (1) for me...or I make them larger (2-5). :ho:

[Fredman]

Agree with Roscoe

[roscoguy]

I don't reduce ANY fonts.

I'm not even sure how you could go below the default size (1).

I either leave them as they are set up under the default of TOTV (1) for me...or I make them larger (2-5). :ho:

It doesn't appear that the default size is (1) for anyone else. This is (4) - my & most others' apparent default. This is (3) This is (2) and this is (1) which much of you posts appear in. Not trying to argue, just asking if you could make what you post more readable for many of us! Thanks!

[ColdNoMore]

It doesn't appear that the default size is (1) for anyone else. This is (4) - my & most others' apparent default. This is (3) This is (2) and this is (1) which much of you posts appear in. Not trying to argue, just asking if you could make what you post more readable for many of us! Thanks!

I wrote the TOTV Team to ask them to look into the settings on my account, because there have been a few people that have said the same thing.

This is 1 for me. (same as the above sentence)

This is 2 for me.

This is 3 for me.

This is 4 for me.

This is 5 for me.

This is 6 for me.

If you quote my post, you should be able to see what I'm saying.

If you're showing a different size, would love to hear how (and what) you're seeing that's different.

BTW - Your standard default, shows as 1 to me...NOT 4.

Thank you. :ho:

[Northwoods]

I don't reduce ANY fonts.

I'm not even sure how you could go below the default size (1).

I either leave them as they are set up under the default of TOTV (1) for me...or I make them larger (2-5). :ho:

See below. Not sure why I'm helping. Sometimes not being able to read responses is preferred...

[ColdNoMore]

See below. Not sure why I'm helping. Sometimes not being able to read responses is preferred...

That one was purposely colored green to blend in and be hard to read...other than the larger dark orange. :D

That way, it identifies the portion I was responding to...without deleting/modifying the original post.

Since it was a quote, one could easily scroll up...and read the entire original post. :shrug:

[Northwoods]

That one was purposely colored green to blend in and be hard to read...other than the larger dark orange. :D

That way, it identifies the portion I was responding to...without deleting/modifying the original post.

Since it was a quote, one could easily scroll up...and read the entire original post. :shrug:

Many people just make the portion of the quote they want to address a larger font. It seems to work well for everyone else. They seem to get it.
The colored font and small font is really annoying.

[Annie66]

I have to admit though, even I was shocked...at this part of your link.

THAT...is very concerning. :ohdear:

Why would you be surprised. Having served for 26 years in the military, our soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen are just a cross section of the American public. They are no more noble or saintly than most.

[MandoMan]

I am not a marcher. I think it is a waste of time. Peaceful marchers are almost an oxymoron. Most people get self righteous-er and more angry and that doesn't help anything. What usually divides us? Is it color? Or is it something else? Now people are getting all mean and judgmental toward people who are white and accuse them of "systemic racism." I bet you a dollar a lot of hands would go up behind computers reading this, if I asked if you went to see just WHAT "systemic racism" is. Most of us want to be good people. Most people are not haters of other races. Most of us who are older are trying to keep our hearts and minds open. Most of us consider all arguments. One of the worst things that can happen to humans is to think they know better than others what is right.

I haven't ever in my life heard of a Boogaloo. Has anyone else reading this? I know not one soul in my eighty years who would ever consider KKK people anything but criminals.

I agree with your post. In the late sixties and early seventies hippy types and African-American kids used to say, “Well, I got to boogaloo,” meaning “leave.” There was a very popular dance called “the boogaloo,” especially seen on “Soul Train.” Some people would say “You wanna boogaloo?” Meaning “You wanna get it on?” or “Do you want to have sex?” I believe that “boogaloo” was an African-American euphemism for sex (which is itself a euphemism, of course) way back in the thirties and forties. The term became a slang term, sometimes pejorative, for young African-American men, sometimes used by cops. I believe that back in Vietnam, and in wars since then, “Time to boogaloo” meant time to go into the fight and shoot people. I think “boogaloo” is also the source of the musical term “Boogie,” as in “Let’s boogie” or “Boogie-Woogie Bugle Boy” or “Cow-Cow Boogie.”

[transplanted]

There's WAAAAY too much of that going around.

Particularly if there's a concerted effort, to gang up, bash and attack...those that don't think exactly as we do. :ho:[/QUOTE]

Adult bullying seems to come out whenever there is something big in the news. It was rampant against companies who supported Trump before the election, it was ramped way up for the 'Me Too' movement, and now for anyone who says anything controversial in the slightest about the current rage. I see it criticized in the news all the time when it's children, but it seems to be the thing to do as an adult.

[Bay Kid]

GREAT. A new cop killing hero.

[Sherrilee]

Yes boogaloos - their members wear Hawaiian shirts so you really can pick them out of a crowd.

[LoisR]

Those people you "never heard of or saw" are out there. All one needs to do is open ones heart and mind.

[OhioBuckeye]

I am not a marcher. I think it is a waste of time. Peaceful marchers are almost an oxymoron. Most people get self righteous-er and more angry and that doesn't help anything. What usually divides us? Is it color? Or is it something else? Now people are getting all mean and judgmental toward people who are white and accuse them of "systemic racism." I bet you a dollar a lot of hands would go up behind computers reading this, if I asked if you went to see just WHAT "systemic racism" is. Most of us want to be good people. Most people are not haters of other races. Most of us who are older are trying to keep our hearts and minds open. Most of us consider all arguments. One of the worst things that can happen to humans is to think they know better than others what is right.

I haven't ever in my life heard of a Boogaloo. Has anyone else reading this? I know not one soul in my eighty years who would ever consider KKK people anything but criminals.

I agree with everything you said Graciegirl but I think we could really ease the tension if we could get the big trouble makers out of there. The trouble makers are the one throwing objects, standing face to face with police, starting fires & looting. The peaceful one as you see on TV are standing way back & trying to keep from getting their heads busted open. Get the trouble makers out of there & put them in jail & the peaceful ones will go home or make peace. I know everyone here are just making opinions because if we had all the answers we wouldn’t be here making comments they would be calling us for help. Also we wouldn’t be having other comments putting us down. You did make a lot of sense in your comment, thank you! Don’t be to hard on me about my opinion!

[jimjamuser]

I am not a marcher. I think it is a waste of time. Peaceful marchers are almost an oxymoron. Most people get self righteous-er and more angry and that doesn't help anything. What usually divides us? Is it color? Or is it something else? Now people are getting all mean and judgmental toward people who are white and accuse them of "systemic racism." I bet you a dollar a lot of hands would go up behind computers reading this, if I asked if you went to see just WHAT "systemic racism" is. Most of us want to be good people. Most people are not haters of other races. Most of us who are older are trying to keep our hearts and minds open. Most of us consider all arguments. One of the worst things that can happen to humans is to think they know better than others what is right.

I haven't ever in my life heard of a Boogaloo. Has anyone else reading this? I know not one soul in my eighty years who would ever consider KKK people anything but criminals.
I have heard of Boogaloo. Also Antifa. They have been in all of the news that I see on TV.

[Byte1]

Is it me or did anyone else notice someone (liberal media, etc?) jumping up and down in excitement over discovering a big bad "white" boy accused of killing a COP?
My opinion is that anyone that kills a COP is scum, white, black or alien from outer space. What is ironic is that IF this White Nationalist was attempting to give BLM a bad name, his action was moot and redundant. Too bad the knee technique was banned before they arrested him.
"Carrillo’s presence on Facebook mostly featured support for a libertarian presidential candidate, anti-police sentiment and pro-gun causes." ---- Definitely NOT a conservative. Funny how he is associated with "white nationalists." Anyone else look at his photo and see his name? Oh well, I guess it takes all types. More than likely, he will dwell well in prison and do a small sentence and get out to do more harm.

[Bucco]

Is it me or did anyone else notice someone (liberal media, etc?) jumping up and down in excitement over discovering a big bad "white" boy accused of killing a COP?
My opinion is that anyone that kills a COP is scum, white, black or alien from outer space. What is ironic is that IF this White Nationalist was attempting to give BLM a bad name, his action was moot and redundant. Too bad the knee technique was banned before they arrested him.
"Carrillo’s presence on Facebook mostly featured support for a libertarian presidential candidate, anti-police sentiment and pro-gun causes." ---- Definitely NOT a conservative. Funny how he is associated with "white nationalists." Anyone else look at his photo and see his name? Oh well, I guess it takes all types. More than likely, he will dwell well in prison and do a small sentence and get out to do more harm.

From Sen Marco Rubio......

"Fact is the legitimate organizers have gone to great lengths to stop agitators from hijacking protest"

[jimjamuser]

Ignoring those people who think they already know it all and refuse to do any meaningful research, others will instead want to keep learning/increasing their knowledge...by constantly seeking (through a variety of legitimate sources) to keep up with what is really happening.

Those are the folks who are not surprised...these groups exist.

I have to admit though, even I was shocked...at this part of your link.



THAT...is very concerning. :ohdear:
It is concerning to me. the WHOLE idea of an ALL-volunteer military is like a 3rd world mercenary army or one set up by Saudi Arabia. Bring back some kind of draft to increase real civilian input. In my opinion.

[jimjamuser]

I agree with your post. In the late sixties and early seventies hippy types and African-American kids used to say, “Well, I got to boogaloo,” meaning “leave.” There was a very popular dance called “the boogaloo,” especially seen on “Soul Train.” Some people would say “You wanna boogaloo?” Meaning “You wanna get it on?” or “Do you want to have sex?” I believe that “boogaloo” was an African-American euphemism for sex (which is itself a euphemism, of course) way back in the thirties and forties. The term became a slang term, sometimes pejorative, for young African-American men, sometimes used by cops. I believe that back in Vietnam, and in wars since then, “Time to boogaloo” meant time to go into the fight and shoot people. I think “boogaloo” is also the source of the musical term “Boogie,” as in “Let’s boogie” or “Boogie-Woogie Bugle Boy” or “Cow-Cow Boogie.”
Nice post. Nice derivation of the term. Who says TOTV is not educational?

[Nucky]

TOP DEFINITION FROM URBAN DICTIONARY
boogaloo
Civil war. Does not only pertain to war with the government but also to political sides.
Me: I just got doxxed and fired. I'm sick of these pinko commies with their authoritarian social justice GARBAGE.

Friend: I just doxxed the guy who doxxed you. Let's get this boogaloo started.
Me: Cowabunga it is.
#boogaloo#civil war#antifa#patriots#blm#3%
by PBBROOF June 05, 2019

I like jimjamusers definition better.
NO POLITICAL REFERENCES ARE ALLOWED ON THE WEBSITE. USERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECT COMMENTS TOWARD ANOTHER USER. DIRECT THEM TO THE TOPIC. VIOLATION OF THESE RULES CAN LEAD TO ACCOUNT TERMINATION AND BAN.

Passing judgment on what another poster knows or believes breaks the rules. Post #26.

An interim great post about the ease of reading someone's post because of color and size are slammed dunked with and in your face with a no way. Instead of being cooperative and easy-going and nice. Its never gonna happen as this request has been asked for several years.

Referencing Boogaloo in a post is clearly Political and not allowed under the properly fonted and re-reminded most broken rule on the Forum. I never heard of the word either. I am shocked that the rules of the Forum are again not followed by certain posters.

[Bucco]

TOP DEFINITION FROM URBAN DICTIONARY
boogaloo
Civil war. Does not only pertain to war with the government but also to political sides.
Me: I just got doxxed and fired. I'm sick of these pinko commies with their authoritarian social justice GARBAGE.

Friend: I just doxxed the guy who doxxed you. Let's get this boogaloo started.
Me: Cowabunga it is.
#boogaloo#civil war#antifa#patriots#blm#3%
by PBBROOF June 05, 2019

I like jimjamusers definition better.
NO POLITICAL REFERENCES ARE ALLOWED ON THE WEBSITE. USERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECT COMMENTS TOWARD ANOTHER USER. DIRECT THEM TO THE TOPIC. VIOLATION OF THESE RULES CAN LEAD TO ACCOUNT TERMINATION AND BAN.

Passing judgement on what another poster knows or believes breaks the rules.

An interim great post about the ease of reading someone's post because of color and size are slammed dunked with and in your face with a no way. Instead of being cooperative and easy-going and nice. Its never gonna happen as this request has been asked for several years.

Referencing Boogaloo in a post is clearly Political and not allowed under the properly fonted and re-reminded most broken rule on the Forum. I never heard of the word either. I am shocked that the rules of the Forum are again not followed by certain posters.

That will do it for ANTIFA references, and a few others used often. Wondering why ANTIFA did not catch your attention ?

Boogaloo has been in the news (ptint version) for months (actually about a year). The coalition they represent has appeared at many gun rallies. They also support the spreading of conspiracy theories

If you read the beliefs, and they are scattered, you will find the same kind of "tear it down and rebuild it" in a few influential comments a few years ago.

Oh, and to your shock...I join you....the direct references to parties, movements, etc is stunning, and you referenced passing judgement on posters....another thing that goes on relative not only to posters but groups (skin colors,etc)

[Nucky]

That will do it for ANTIFA references, and a few others used often. Wondering why ANTIFA did not catch your attention ?

Sounds like this could turn Political. I'll leave breaking the rules to others.

NO POLITICAL REFERENCES ARE ALLOWED ON THE WEBSITE. USERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECT COMMENTS TOWARD ANOTHER USER. DIRECT THEM TO THE TOPIC. VIOLATION OF THESE RULES CAN LEAD TO ACCOUNT TERMINATION AND BAN.

[Byte1]

Why would you be surprised. Having served for 26 years in the military, our soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen are just a cross section of the American public. They are no more noble or saintly than most.

Exactly, and law enforcement is also. Although, many Dept's now require college education or at least college courses pertinent the career. But, folks seem to think they can pay security guard wages for men and women that spend long hours on the road and must practically be experts in statute law. They want our officers to be social services, EMTs and lawyers all in one and pay them a pitiful wage for it. Now, they want to defund any tools that might make it a safer job for them, and even limit new hiring.
But, when you say they are no more noble or saintly than most, I have to disagree. These men and women, usually starting out as very young adults ARE "noble and saintly" for taking on a public service where many folks are saved and freedom is protected. They do so, knowing that they might forfeit their lives doing so. But, they do not hesitate. I have the greatest of respect for these people and am honored to have worked along with them for many years, both military and law enforcement. Public service is a thankless job. You can be a hero for 20 years, but make a mistake or have just one bad day and your mistake will dishonor all the good. Thank goodness that only happens to a very few. "Blessed are the Peacemakers.......... "

[coffeebean]

Can you please stop reducing the font sizes in your posts? Sometimes they are ridiculously difficult to read! Pretty please?? The weird color combos don't exactly help either...

I've been wondering why posters reduce the text size too. Makes it difficult to read most of the time so I just skip it and go on to the next post.

[wisbad1]

I am not a marcher. I think it is a waste of time. Peaceful marchers are almost an oxymoron. Most people get self righteous-er and more angry and that doesn't help anything. What usually divides us? Is it color? Or is it something else? Now people are getting all mean and judgmental toward people who are white and accuse them of "systemic racism." I bet you a dollar a lot of hands would go up behind computers reading this, if I asked if you went to see just WHAT "systemic racism" is. Most of us want to be good people. Most people are not haters of other races. Most of us who are older are trying to keep our hearts and minds open. Most of us consider all arguments. One of the worst things that can happen to humans is to think they know better than others what is right.

I haven't ever in my life heard of a Boogaloo. Has anyone else reading this? I know not one soul in my eighty years who would ever consider KKK people anything but criminals.
I worked with a guy nickname boogaloo, and a dance.

[coffeebean]

Many people just make the portion of the quote they want to address a larger font. It seems to work well for everyone else. They seem to get it.
The colored font and small font is really annoying.

I don't bother using a different color anymore to highlight certain text that I'm quoting. I have found that because there are two versions of this TOTV site, one color is good for one of the versions but not good for the other version of the site. The quote boxes are a different color on each version so it is not a good idea to change text color in the quote box. By not changing the color of the text, the text in the quote box is readable in both versions of this forum.

Sorry for being a part of hijacking this thread. Now back to the original topic...............

[ColdNoMore]

I've been wondering why posters reduce the text size too. Makes it difficult to read most of the time so I just skip it and go on to the next post.

Like right now, I'm posting in TOTV's default setting (I haven't done anything to it)...it's lowest. It shows up as '1' to me.

Here is when I make an effort to resize to '3.'

It is impossible to reduce below 1, so I believe it is a problem on TOTV's end when they screwed up my account and I had to make another one (ColdNoMore2).

And yes, I told them ahead of time what I was doing. :D

Once they got the original account (this one) squared away and blended both accounts...is when the text issue size seemed to come up. :shrug: