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GoodLife
06-21-2020, 06:21 PM
Headline from Newsweek

Multiple Florida Hospitals Run Out of ICU Beds as Coronavirus Cases Spike

You have been blocked (https://www.newsweek.com/multiple-florida-hospitals-run-out-icu-beds-coronavirus-cases-spike-1511934) This links to Newsweek article, not sure why it did this.

Excerpt:

Numerous Florida medical facilities reported dwindling ICU bed availability on Thursday, with several reporting no availability at all, according to the latest report published by Florida's Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA). Palm Beach County was among those statewide regions where the availability of beds was most scarce. An accompanying report from AHCA shows about 75 percent of available hospital beds statewide are currently occupied.

"several reporting no availability" means actually 2 hospitals out of 17 in Palm Beach County, and they are small ones with 6 and 10 ICU beds

"about 75% occupied" actually means 71% if you use actual math. Normal average ICU occupancy rates in hospitals nationally is 65% to 75% when there's no global pandemic going on. Does Newsweek think they build costly ICU rooms to stay empty?

29% of florida hospital beds are currently open.

it's 71% full, not 75.

palm beach is 31% open.

there is just nothing at all in the real data to support these hysterical claims.

Want to know why our hospitals are not overflowing even though we have record surges in new cases?

The median age of new cases in Florida has dropped from 55 to 35. A recent study in Italy determined that 70% of covid 19 positives under 60 years old are asymptomatic. Numerous other studies in UK etc confirm this. Google it

So this surge is mostly younger people, the ones who feel pretty invulnerable to covid 19 (they are) and they don't like masks, like to go to bars and protests and if they catch coronavirus, most of them don't even have symptoms or need hospitals.

Another reason for this surge may be workplace testing. As we open up more and more businesses have their employees tested, this is not only to protect customers but also themselves, they don't want a mini epidemic and have to close again. Average age of workers in USA is 42.

Stu from NYC
06-21-2020, 06:24 PM
Another reason I no longer read Newsweek even if in a DR office.

I do wonder if percentage of case ending in death is trending downward?

GoodLife
06-21-2020, 06:30 PM
Another reason I no longer read Newsweek even if in a DR office.

I do wonder if percentage of case ending in death is trending downward?

Deaths lag new cases by an average of 28 days, but since we know these new surges are a much younger demographic and they rarely die from covid, the death rate should continue downward trend. (unless they infect a bunch of us old fogies)

84720

JoelJohnson
06-22-2020, 08:57 AM
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karostay
06-22-2020, 09:10 AM
The man is deploying medical ship to Port Canaveral

graciegirl
06-22-2020, 11:58 AM
The man is deploying medical ship to Port Canaveral

You know, in all honesty, I thought deploying those hospital ships was a good idea, because at that time I thought, as many did, that we would run out of hospital rooms.

NOW I am getting suspicious of the safety of systems on any ship to keep the inhabitants safe from viruses. I have personal knowledge of several neighbors and friends who have returned from cruises with rather nasty stomach flu. And of course the major fiasco with Covid-19 on cruise lines. I don't know whether it is the close proximity or some faulty system like water or air, or all of the above. You couldn't pay me to board any large sailing vessel at them time. I think of all of them as HMS Petri Dish.

Number 10 GI
06-22-2020, 12:26 PM
You know, in all honesty, I thought deploying those hospital ships was a good idea, because at that time I thought, as many did, that we would run out of hospital rooms.

NOW I am getting suspicious of the safety of systems on any ship to keep the inhabitants safe from viruses. I have personal knowledge of several neighbors and friends who have returned from cruises with rather nasty stomach flu. And of course the major fiasco with Covid-19 on cruise lines. I don't know whether it is the close proximity or some faulty system like water or air, or all of the above. You couldn't pay me to board any large sailing vessel at them time. I think of all of them as HMS Petri Dish.

Gracie, these are purpose built hospital ships, they are as well equipped as a land based hospital. Nothing like a cruise ship.

Aloha1
06-23-2020, 03:27 PM
The man is deploying medical ship to Port Canaveral

Source please?