Yeah, climate change is a hoax,

[44Apple]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)

[Polar Bear]

The only thing constant about climate is change.

How much man contributes to it or can control it are the questions.

[Stu from NYC]

The only thing constant about climate is change.

How much man contributes to it or can control it are the questions.

Agreed. Over the centuries planets cools and warms and now we are apparently in a warming cycle.

How much is man made is a question. We should do our best to use resources as efficiently as possible in any case.

[GoodLife]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature - Electroverse (https://electroverse.net/greenland-just-set-a-new-all-time-record-low-temperature/)

[retiredguy123]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)
Why should the U.S. be leading the charge? We only represent about 4 percent of the world population.

Has anyone ever presented a viable plan of action for the world that would solve the "problem" and has any chance to be accepted and implemented globally?

[mydavid]

You got to ask yourselves, what's the down side of taking better care of the planet.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Man has zero control over climate! Period end of story!

[manaboutown]

China is the main source of pollutants and carbon dioxide. Unless and until the Chi-Coms clean up their act whatever the rest of the world does or does not do will sadly have little impact.

Countries rated for carbon dioxide emissions. China is #1; US is #2. China, US: These countries produce the most CO2 emissions (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/14/china-us-countries-that-produce-the-most-co-2-emissions/39548763/)

[blueash]

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature - Electroverse (https://electroverse.net/greenland-just-set-a-new-all-time-record-low-temperature/)

I clicked on your link and learned that the website explained how the sunspot cycle was low and that this is why it was so cold in Greenland that one day. It further explained that this low sunspot activity would last for a few years and this is how ice ages begin. We were to expect a really significant cooling that would be lasting several weeks and be dangerous especially in North America

"This could be big.

Prepare.

The cold times are returning, in line with historically low solar activity.

The jet stream is weakening, diverting brutal polar cold to the lower-latitudes: "

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

Monthly Temperature: January 2020
The global land and ocean surface temperature for January 2020 was the highest in the 141-year record, with a temperature departure from average of 1.14°C (2.05°F) above the 20th century average. The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature departure from average was also highest on record at 1.50°C (2.70°F) above average.

Now to be fair, there was a brief period of cold air in a small area of North America. This is called "weather" not climate change. To look at climate you look at the globe. When it is cold in a few Canadian provinces or one day in Greenland that is not evidence to refute climate change. But one hot day above the Arctic Circle is similarly not evidence to prove that the globe is warming.

It is a bit tiring that the denialists continue to parade sunspot data to "prove" their point because it doesn't support the claim that solar activity is a driving factor. Solar cycles are about 11 years, it goes up then down then begins again. But somehow the global temperatures have only gone in one direction through those 11 years, up.

You know what actually measurable quantity parallels the increase in global temperature. It is not solar activity, it is of course CO2 (https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change). Man-made CO2 is the major factor in the recent change in CO2 levels. (https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide)

With the hot temperatures in the formerly frozen tundra there is a very real concern that the methane which has been locked in the frozen soil (https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2785/unexpected-future-boost-of-methane-possible-from-arctic-permafrost/)will now be liberated. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Additionally with the decrease in snow/ice cover, the globe will absorb more solar radiation which used to be reflected back into space.

Why should the US lead in solving this problem? Because despite what you hear from some sources, the US leads the world by far in production of greenhouse gases per person. Each American, even with all our high mileage cars and pollution controls produces more climate damaging gas than the citizens of any other country. We are befouling the planet. We have been doing it for decades. We are supposed to be world leaders, "American exceptionalism", a beacon for the world.

[fdpaq0580]

I clicked on your link and learned that the website explained how the sunspot cycle was low and that this is why it was so cold in Greenland that one day. It further explained that this low sunspot activity would last for a few years and this is how ice ages begin. We were to expect a really significant cooling that would be lasting several weeks and be dangerous especially in North America

"This could be big.

Prepare.

The cold times are returning, in line with historically low solar activity.

The jet stream is weakening, diverting brutal polar cold to the lower-latitudes: "

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

Monthly Temperature: January 2020
The global land and ocean surface temperature for January 2020 was the highest in the 141-year record, with a temperature departure from average of 1.14°C (2.05°F) above the 20th century average. The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature departure from average was also highest on record at 1.50°C (2.70°F) above average.

Now to be fair, there was a brief period of cold air in a small area of North America. This is called "weather" not climate change. To look at climate you look at the globe. When it is cold in a few Canadian provinces or one day in Greenland that is not evidence to refute climate change. But one hot day above the Arctic Circle is similarly not evidence to prove that the globe is warming.

It is a bit tiring that the denialists continue to parade sunspot data to "prove" their point because it doesn't support the claim that solar activity is a driving factor. Solar cycles are about 11 years, it goes up then down then begins again. But somehow the global temperatures have only gone in one direction through those 11 years, up.

You know what actually measurable quantity parallels the increase in global temperature. It is not solar activity, it is of course CO2 (https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change). Man-made CO2 is the major factor in the recent change in CO2 levels. (https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide)

With the hot temperatures in the formerly frozen tundra there is a very real concern that the methane which has been locked in the frozen soil (https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2785/unexpected-future-boost-of-methane-possible-from-arctic-permafrost/)will now be liberated. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Additionally with the decrease in snow/ice cover, the globe will absorb more solar radiation which used to be reflected back into space.

Why should the US lead in solving this problem? Because despite what you hear from some sources, the US leads the world by far in production of greenhouse gases per person. Each American, even with all our high mileage cars and pollution controls produces more climate damaging gas than the citizens of any other country. We are befouling the planet. We have been doing it for decades. We are supposed to be world leaders, "American exceptionalism", a beacon for the world.

Very good information and explanation. Sadly, many just don't want to hear it. Most don't seem to know the difference between climate and weather, and the "nay-sayers" use that confusion to support their rhetoric. There is so much we (humans) could and should due, but with our species being so fragmented, unwilling or incapable of uniting to do what is in the best interest of the planet or our species, it is good that there is such a push to get into space.

[Strongel]

Every person who has been in the far north or viewed the ice disappearing at alarming rate knows we are in a warming cycle. Ice thousands of years old has melted. Some want to place blame, some want to deny it’s happening. It may have drastic consequences if it continues, so we watch carefully. Personally I think it is a cycle of warming and cooling period. With that said, I don’t down play it and I do think as the health of earth suffers, so will we. It’s just a measure of being good stewards of that which we are a part. We are the earth, we are the eyes and ears and most of the time intelligence. Shame/blame talk doesn’t solve what’s happening if we can solve it.

[GoodLife]

I clicked on your link and learned that the website explained how the sunspot cycle was low and that this is why it was so cold in Greenland that one day. It further explained that this low sunspot activity would last for a few years and this is how ice ages begin. We were to expect a really significant cooling that would be lasting several weeks and be dangerous especially in North America

"This could be big.

Prepare.

The cold times are returning, in line with historically low solar activity.

The jet stream is weakening, diverting brutal polar cold to the lower-latitudes: "

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

Monthly Temperature: January 2020
The global land and ocean surface temperature for January 2020 was the highest in the 141-year record, with a temperature departure from average of 1.14°C (2.05°F) above the 20th century average. The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature departure from average was also highest on record at 1.50°C (2.70°F) above average.

Now to be fair, there was a brief period of cold air in a small area of North America. This is called "weather" not climate change. To look at climate you look at the globe. When it is cold in a few Canadian provinces or one day in Greenland that is not evidence to refute climate change. But one hot day above the Arctic Circle is similarly not evidence to prove that the globe is warming.

It is a bit tiring that the denialists continue to parade sunspot data to "prove" their point because it doesn't support the claim that solar activity is a driving factor. Solar cycles are about 11 years, it goes up then down then begins again. But somehow the global temperatures have only gone in one direction through those 11 years, up.

You know what actually measurable quantity parallels the increase in global temperature. It is not solar activity, it is of course CO2 (https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change). Man-made CO2 is the major factor in the recent change in CO2 levels. (https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide)

With the hot temperatures in the formerly frozen tundra there is a very real concern that the methane which has been locked in the frozen soil (https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2785/unexpected-future-boost-of-methane-possible-from-arctic-permafrost/)will now be liberated. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Additionally with the decrease in snow/ice cover, the globe will absorb more solar radiation which used to be reflected back into space.

Why should the US lead in solving this problem? Because despite what you hear from some sources, the US leads the world by far in production of greenhouse gases per person. Each American, even with all our high mileage cars and pollution controls produces more climate damaging gas than the citizens of any other country. We are befouling the planet. We have been doing it for decades. We are supposed to be world leaders, "American exceptionalism", a beacon for the world.

I posted the record Greenland low this year to show the OP that anecdotal climate data means nothing.

China’s Emissions: More Than U.S. Plus Europe, and Still Rising

China’s Emissions: More Than U.S. Plus Europe, and Still Rising - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/business/china-davos-climate-change.html)

Check out Climate Audit (https://climateaudit.org/) This is the guy who debunked Mann's hockey stick paper. Lots of scientists and mathematicians comment there. He dissects almost every climate paper that comes out.

[ColdNoMore]

I clicked on your link and learned that the website explained how the sunspot cycle was low and that this is why it was so cold in Greenland that one day. It further explained that this low sunspot activity would last for a few years and this is how ice ages begin. We were to expect a really significant cooling that would be lasting several weeks and be dangerous especially in North America

"This could be big.

Prepare.

The cold times are returning, in line with historically low solar activity.

The jet stream is weakening, diverting brutal polar cold to the lower-latitudes: "

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

Monthly Temperature: January 2020
The global land and ocean surface temperature for January 2020 was the highest in the 141-year record, with a temperature departure from average of 1.14°C (2.05°F) above the 20th century average. The Northern Hemisphere land and ocean surface temperature departure from average was also highest on record at 1.50°C (2.70°F) above average.

Now to be fair, there was a brief period of cold air in a small area of North America. This is called "weather" not climate change. To look at climate you look at the globe. When it is cold in a few Canadian provinces or one day in Greenland that is not evidence to refute climate change. But one hot day above the Arctic Circle is similarly not evidence to prove that the globe is warming.

It is a bit tiring that the denialists continue to parade sunspot data to "prove" their point because it doesn't support the claim that solar activity is a driving factor. Solar cycles are about 11 years, it goes up then down then begins again. But somehow the global temperatures have only gone in one direction through those 11 years, up.

You know what actually measurable quantity parallels the increase in global temperature. It is not solar activity, it is of course CO2 (https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change). Man-made CO2 is the major factor in the recent change in CO2 levels. (https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide)

With the hot temperatures in the formerly frozen tundra there is a very real concern that the methane which has been locked in the frozen soil (https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2785/unexpected-future-boost-of-methane-possible-from-arctic-permafrost/)will now be liberated. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. Additionally with the decrease in snow/ice cover, the globe will absorb more solar radiation which used to be reflected back into space.

Why should the US lead in solving this problem? Because despite what you hear from some sources, the US leads the world by far in production of greenhouse gases per person. Each American, even with all our high mileage cars and pollution controls produces more climate damaging gas than the citizens of any other country. We are befouling the planet. We have been doing it for decades. We are supposed to be world leaders, "American exceptionalism", a beacon for the world.

Attempting to explain the difference between temporary "weather" and long-term "climate," while laudable...doesn't fit the agenda of the 'Climate Deniers.'

It's very analogous to the 'Flat Earthers,' that can be found...all around the globe. :D

Don't you understand, that making any personal sacrifice or inconvenience now, for the benefit of our children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren...is simply unacceptable? :ohdear: (insert facetious emoji here)

[nututv]

Oh boy, our next, ex thread. Won't take long for this one to get locked down I don't imagine,

[GoodLife]

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

It's very easy for me to find myriad instances where global warming theories have been wrong as well. I wonder why they changed the name from global warming to climate change?

[Stu from NYC]

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

It's very easy for me to find myriad instances where global warming theories have been wrong as well. I wonder why they changed the name from global warming to climate change?

We all know the reason for the name change.

[John41]

unfortunately climate change has been politicized. one of the most famous physicists, Freeman Dyson, stated the climate change models are too inaccurate to make accurate long range predictions. and as with covid19 the cure could be worse than the disease.

[ALadysMom]

Did you report this to the woke environmental-activist crowd?

You’ll find them out filling our landfills with their destruction.

[ALadysMom]

Do you know how long accurate climate records have been kept? In many US locations they date WAY back to about 1800.

As we all have recently learned the hard way, statistical modeling is dependent on the accuracy and sufficiency of data input.
Garbage (data) In = Garbage (Conclusions) Out

[Number 10 GI]

The weather data we have only goes back for a couple hundred years at most. In the life of the Earth that is like a blink of the eye of in the life of a May Fly which only live about a day. Would you base your investment strategy on one minute of stock trading?
There is a place called Greenland but it is covered by snow! Theory is the Vikings settled that area and gave it the name of Greenland because of the verdant vegetation growing there. This theory has been fairly well documented based on artifacts found there by archaeologists. If the climate has been getting warmer what happened to Greenland? Scientists estimate there have been something like 5 ice ages in the life of the Earth and it warmed up after each one. It got warm enough for cold blooded animals called dinosaurs to live in large areas of the world where they wouldn't be able to live now. I don't think there were any SUV's or humans in the millions living then.

P.T. Barnum said "you can fool most of the people most of the time". There have been numerous news stories of so-called climate scientists fudging, manipulating and completely ignoring findings that don't support their narrative. Computer modules being changed to support their claims when they didn't get what they wanted from the original program.
P.T. Barnum also said "there is a fool born every minute".

[Topspinmo]

Mean temperature calculation’s are at 58 degree presently. Now where near the calculated 75 degrees when The dinosaurs Roamed the earth. Look at charts. They go up and the go down. Some say it has to do with the elliptic cycle of the earth around the sun, basic it get farther away and earth enters ice age. There NOTHING human’s can do to control it. So they say, but I sure a carbon tax will fix it. :popcorn:

[ColdNoMore]

Here's one pretty important group (along with +-90% of climate scientists :oops:)...that doesn't believe climate change is just a hoax or hype.

DOD On Climate Change/National Security (click here) (http://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/612710/)

The report finds that climate change is a security risk, Pentagon officials said, because it degrades living conditions, human security and the ability of governments to meet the basic needs of their populations.

Communities and states that already are fragile and have limited resources are significantly more vulnerable to disruption and far less likely to respond effectively and be resilient to new challenges, they added.

“The Department of Defense's primary responsibility is to protect national security interests around the world,” officials said in a news release announcing the report’s submission. “This involves considering all aspects of the global security environment and planning appropriately for potential contingencies and the possibility of unexpected developments both in the near and the longer terms.

“It is in this context,” they continued, “that the department must consider the effects of climate change -- such as sea level rise, shifting climate zones and more frequent and intense severe weather events -- and how these effects could impact national security.”


:ho:

[ColdNoMore]

Mean temperature calculation’s are at 58 degree presently. Now where near the calculated 75 degrees when The dinosaurs Roamed the earth. Look at charts. They go up and the go down. Some say it has to do with the elliptic cycle of the earth around the sun, basic it get farther away and earth enters ice age. There NOTHING human’s can do to control it. So they say, but I sure a carbon tax will fix it. :popcorn:

Dinosaurs are a hoax and fake news, since the earth...is only 10,000 years old.

Just ask... :oops:

[nututv]

It's been hashed over too many times and people still ignore it. I don't think people dispute the climate is changing. The dispute is what the cause is.
There isn't any more (or less) water on this planet than there really ever was regarding this argument.
Sea levels have risen and fallen over the millennia. Florida had salt water beaches further inland than Gainesville at one time. It happened before, it'll probably happen again.

[GoodLife]

Here's one pretty important group (along with +-90% of climate scientists :oops:)...that doesn't believe climate change is just a hoax or hype.

Only 90% agree there's climate change? Ask any person on the street if the climate changes they will say yes, they know what weather is. :1rotfl:

[Polar Bear]

...Here's one pretty important group (along with +-90% of climate scientists :oops:)...that doesn't believe climate change is just a hoax or hype...
Wow. So +-10% of climate scientists believe the climate is not changing at all?!? That's even higher than I would have predicted! :D

[Number 10 GI]

That 90% claim is bogus, do you really believe you will get 90% of any group to agree on anything?

[ColdNoMore]

From NASA.


Climate Scientists (poke here) (http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/)


Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities.

In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.

The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.


Note that ONLY "ACTIVELY PUBLISHING, PEER-REVIEWED CLIMATE SCIENTISTS" (NOT...politicians/scientists in other fields/non peer-reviewed/Etc.) are included.

That sure eliminates a lot of the Riffraff. :D



:ho:

[Stu from NYC]

That 90% claim is bogus, do you really believe you will get 90% of any group to agree on anything?

It is a known fact that if you get 10 economists in a room you will get 11 opinions.

[Stu from NYC]

The weather data we have only goes back for a couple hundred years at most. In the life of the Earth that is like a blink of the eye of in the life of a May Fly which only live about a day. Would you base your investment strategy on one minute of stock trading?
There is a place called Greenland but it is covered by snow! Theory is the Vikings settled that area and gave it the name of Greenland because of the verdant vegetation growing there. This theory has been fairly well documented based on artifacts found there by archaeologists. If the climate has been getting warmer what happened to Greenland? Scientists estimate there have been something like 5 ice ages in the life of the Earth and it warmed up after each one. It got warm enough for cold blooded animals called dinosaurs to live in large areas of the world where they wouldn't be able to live now. I don't think there were any SUV's or humans in the millions living then.

P.T. Barnum said "you can fool most of the people most of the time". There have been numerous news stories of so-called climate scientists fudging, manipulating and completely ignoring findings that don't support their narrative. Computer modules being changed to support their claims when they didn't get what they wanted from the original program.
P.T. Barnum also said "there is a fool born every minute".

We were planning on a cruise to Greenland in August but the virus put the kibosh on that. Could have taken instruments and investigated to prove whether big foot was ever there.

[GoodLife]

From NASA. Note that ONLY "ACTIVELY PUBLISHING, PEER-REVIEWED CLIMATE SCIENTISTS" (NOT...politicians/scientists in other fields/non peer-reviewed/Etc.) are included.

That sure eliminates a lot of the Riffraff. :D



:ho:

These are from peer reviewed scientists also, and show climate fluctuations over longer periods of time. Look like man did not invent climate change :MOJE_whot:

84741

84739

84740

[xNYer]

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature

Greenland just set a new all-time Record-Low Temperature - Electroverse (https://electroverse.net/greenland-just-set-a-new-all-time-record-low-temperature/)

Climate change means climate change 😚
A new record indicates climate change.

[ColdNoMore]

These are from peer reviewed scientists also, and show climate fluctuations over longer periods of time. Look like man did not invent climate change :MOJE_whot:

84741

84739

84740

:1rotfl:


Scale baby...scale.

So, I forget, which one of those graphs show a consistent rise over a 100 year period...versus MILLIONS of years? :boom:

...97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities.

:wave:

[jnafix]

Man has zero control over climate! Period end of story!

wow and the Earth is flat right?

[Dayeight99]

And it’s never happened before in the entire history of the world. Wake up.

[nututv]

wow and the Earth is flat right?

It's flat where I am, it begins to curve a little beyond my yard.

[ColdNoMore]

Wow and the Earth is flat right?

There's folks who say exactly that...all around the globe. :1rotfl:

[Dayeight99]

Guess what, Al? The sky is not falling. The only constant is change. Been happening since the beginning of time.

[nututv]

So, I forget, which one of those graphs show a consistent rise over a 100 year period...versus MILLIONS of years?

The earth is 4.543 billion years according to the all wise Google search. If you're super religious it's a little younger. Somewhere between 6,000 and 10,000 years. I'll go with the first figure of 4.543 billion for arguments sake.

I forget where the graph from 2.176321 to 2.177322 billion years ago went. It showed a pretty big change. I swear it did. lol

[Two Bills]

Why should the U.S. be leading the charge? We only represent about 4 percent of the world population.

Has anyone ever presented a viable plan of action for the world that would solve the "problem" and has any chance to be accepted and implemented globally?

Yet that 4% produce the second largest amount of world polution after China!

[donassaid]

Fake News. The Covid 19 "Plannedemic" will go down as the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the World, second only to global warming. Both have cost the country trillions of dollars needlessly.

[coalminer]

We live in a world where people refuse to sacrifice for the good of mankind. They will tell you it's natural. No it's not. Maybe over a million years it is, but not like the last 60 years.

[Fairtoall]

Ditto; of course.

[shelley77]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)
There is no real science behind climate change, just models. And we should always believe the models.

[ldovermiller]

Well, we now have eliminated ONE garbage truck per week on our streets, this should help. BUT WAIT, since we are becoming a
mail order society, UPS & FEDX have increased their DAILY trips to our streets, the 3 WASTED trips by our COMMUNITY WATCH
that is ok. We are just a bunch of sheep being herded around by our local, state and federal leaders. WHAT A SHAME! BAAAA

[Edmond]

The planet has been cooling for the last 10 years not warming. Go th Tony Heller’s site and learn the true facts. As far as Arctic ice there is as much ice there now as in the year 1981. I agree the global warming now changed to climate change is a hoax

[Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com]

China is the main source of pollutants and carbon dioxide. Unless and until the Chi-Coms clean up their act whatever the rest of the world does or does not do will sadly have little impact.

Countries rated for carbon dioxide emissions. China is #1; US is #2. China, US: These countries produce the most CO2 emissions (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/14/china-us-countries-that-produce-the-most-co-2-emissions/39548763/)

India is #2, Indonesia is #3

[GoodLife]

:1rotfl:


Scale baby...scale.

So, I forget, which one of those graphs show a consistent rise over a 100 year period...versus MILLIONS of years? :boom:



:wave:

That's the point, 100 years is just a blip in earth's history. The climate has changed drastically up and down long before humans were on the scene. We are in a relative cooler period right now and a .5 C rise over 100 years is nothing to be alarmed about.

There have been periods where no ice existed at the poles and periods where ice covered most of the USA. Well before anyone know what fossil fuels were.

Remember when global warmists predicted 20 foot rise in sea levels? In the last 25 years as measured by NASA it's gone up 93 mm, about 3.6 inches.

[Heyitsrick]

The TOTV forums are continuing their reign of being the American guilt pages.

Ok, where to start?

Let's start at the beginning - the OP's thread equating a high temperature with climate change. It's so demonstrably incorrect, but that's how things work here, apparently.

What do we know about Verkhoyansk? Oh, that it has the distinction of being the Guinness World Record holder for the the world's widest temperature range:

Verkhoyansk currently holds the Guinness World Record for the greatest temperature range on earth - fluctuating from minus 68C to a high of 37.3C.

Note: that Guinness designation didn't happen this week.

So, what was the previous record at Verkhoyansk? And when?

On 20 June 2020, it set a record for the highest temperature above the Arctic Circle, at 100.4°F (38°C),[12] beating the previous record of 99.1 °F (37.3°C) set on July 25, 1988.

Yep, 99.1 degrees F in 1988.

[noslices1]

To fix the CO2 problem, just stop cutting down trees. They take CO2 and turn it to Oxygen. Oxygen is good.

[ColdNoMore]

That's the point, 100 years is just a blip in earth's history. The climate has changed drastically up and down long before humans were on the scene. We are in a relative cooler period right now and a .5 C rise over 100 years is nothing to be alarmed about.

There have been periods where no ice existed at the poles and periods where ice covered most of the USA. Well before anyone know what fossil fuels were.

Remember when global warmists predicted 20 foot rise in sea levels? In the last 25 years as measured by NASA it's gone up 93 mm, about 3.6 inches.

You know darned well, that the importance of the 100 years is the correspondence...with human industrialism. :oops:

But go ahead and try to confuse with a scale of MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years...as a comparison.


Certain folks will certainly buy it. :ohdear:


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[GoodLife]

You know darned well, that the importance of the 100 years is the correspondence...with human industrialism. :oops:

But go ahead and try to confuse with a scale of MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years...as a comparison.


Certain folks will certainly buy it. :ohdear:


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LOL I thought correspondence (correlation) does not mean causation?

Besides, CO2 levels do not correlate very well with temperatures anyway.

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[Windguy]

Man has zero control over climate! Period end of story!

Oh, really? So, if we put a giant sun shield in orbit between the Earth and the Sun it wouldn’t affect our climate? If we set off a dozen nuclear weapons every year so that there was constantly a lot of dust and soot high in the atmosphere it would not affect the climate?

I’ve noticed that little kids don’t realize it hurts adults when they hit them or pull their hair. They don’t think they have the power to affect grownups. Most learn that’s not true by the time they are six or so. It’s apparent some never learn the lesson.

[bp243]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)
Thanks for this post! Leadership is about acknowledging a problem followed up by finding the experts to provide possible solutions. A few countries have succeeded in showing results In these areas based on their leadership. It is possible.

[Windguy]

I see there’s a lot of YouTube University School of Climate Science graduates here in The Villages. I hope y’all display your diplomas proudly.

[Number 10 GI]

wow and the Earth is flat right?

Such a profound answer. Really had to work for that one.

[toeser]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)

Here's some actual science for you.

A Light In Siberia (http://notrickszone.com/2010/09/21/a-light-in-siberia/)

[forebubba]

Why should the U.S. be leading the charge? We only represent about 4 percent of the world population.

Has anyone ever presented a viable plan of action for the world that would solve the "problem" and has any chance to be accepted and implemented globally?

Check the stats for the last 15 years. Co2 levels are off the charts due to mostly burning fossil fuels. Look at pictures of artic ice and glaciers now and 15 years ago.
The ice age temperature on earth was only 4 degrees lower than today. Weather is day to day. Climate is a long period of time. As 4% of the population...we contribute more pollution per person than any country.
On Covid-19, if we have 4% of population, why do we have 25% of the deaths?

[Bikeracer2009]

Whenever someone talks about climate change I quietly ask myself "what do they expect me to do about it?"

Al Gore flew in a private jet to give his speeches on climate change and lived in a house that cost 100 times more in co2 release than the average American home. I read about this long ago and don't have facts to back this up.

I have very limited knowledge on this subject but from what I have heard is that the changes needed are going to exceed the financial abilities of every country? That forcing the pace of technology beyond reasonable investment expectations could result in accelerating debt that gets out of control?

I'm all for reducing pollution and co2 emissions but I doubt whatever steps I take will make a difference. I feel I've already maxed out what I can do, within reason.

[GoodLife]

Check the stats for the last 15 years. Co2 levels are off the charts due to mostly burning fossil fuels. Look at pictures of artic ice and glaciers now and 15 years ago.
The ice age temperature on earth was only 4 degrees lower than today. Weather is day to day. Climate is a long period of time. As 4% of the population...we contribute more pollution per person than any country.
On Covid-19, if we have 4% of population, why do we have 25% of the deaths?

No, CO2 levels are currently at their lowest levels in over 500 million years

Correct, climate is over a long period of time, not just last 100 years.

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[ColdNoMore]

Here's some actual science for you.

A Light In Siberia (http://notrickszone.com/2010/09/21/a-light-in-siberia/)

The author in that link. :ho:


Denier For Hire - It's Still a Thing (click here) (http://climatecrocks.com/2015/12/12/denier-for-hire-its-still-a-thing/)

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[nututv]

Oh, really? So, if we put a giant sun shield in orbit between the Earth and the Sun it wouldn’t affect our climate? If we set off a dozen nuclear weapons every year so that there was constantly a lot of dust and soot high in the atmosphere it would not affect the climate?

Where is this giant sun shield, when did the dozen nukes go off. How do you know this? Our climate will remain safe because there is a teapot out there specifically designed to keep us all safe. It's circling somewhere between the big soot cloud and the sun visor.
Russell's teapot - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot)

[aallbrand]

not true man has control over the earth and climate change but has zero control over misinformed people that ignore science

[GoodLife]

The author in that link. :ho:


Denier For Hire - It's Still a Thing (click here) (http://climatecrocks.com/2015/12/12/denier-for-hire-its-still-a-thing/)

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All global warming scientists are unpaid noble servants seeking truth for the betterment of mankind. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[nututv]

not true man has control over the earth and climate change
hahaha Oh he does? Lets see this 'man' you speak of stop the next flood, tornado, earthquake, hurricane etc. Hell, we can't even predict them with any precision. You give the human race far too much credit.
btw, care to elaborate on who the misinformed people are? lol

[nututv]

All global warming scientists are unpaid noble servants seeking truth for the betterment of mankind. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You bet they are. Wait until you see the sun shield they're putting together. Windguy told me about it. Should be awesome.

[TomPerrett]

What’s the reason to deny the globe is warming ?
The glaciers are melting.
Who stands to profit from Denying what we see Happening in front of our eyes

[nututv]

What’s the reason to deny the globe is warming?
Never met anyone that did deny it. The cause of it is sure up to debate though. No worries though, Windguy says a big sun visor is in the works.

The glaciers are melting.
So what! Greenland use to be green, The Villages at one time had sharks. I personally remember when it was filled with beautiful swamps as a kid. Kilimanjaro was to have lost it's snow 20 years ago now?

Who stands to profit from Denying what we see Happening in front of our eyes.
There's not a dime to be made pushing global cooling... I mean global warming... I mean climate change. Ask the guy that invented the internet.

[Leadbone1]

[QUOTE=44Apple;1789318]just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)[/QUOTE

Seriously? The climate has been changing since the beginning of time. Many continents have undergone drastic changes during that time! So in that sense I do believe in climate change. But what I do not believe is that we in anyway have anything to do with it or that we can in any way control it! And no one has ever been able to prove different nor will they ever! Lose the paranoia!

[nututv]

America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

When Gore predicted an ice free arctic would likely occur 10 years ago, he was using data from a lot of 'Scientists' at NASA, NOAA etc. Question is, who's behind the scientists?

[GoodLife]

What’s the reason to deny the globe is warming ?
The glaciers are melting.
Who stands to profit from Denying what we see Happening in front of our eyes

Nobody denies the fact that the globe has warmed a miniscule .5 C in recent years. It's nothing to be alarmed about. Glaciers and ice caps have melted and grown for millions of years.

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We are just now reaching the same global temp rise seen during the medieval warm period (well before the industrial revolution, fossil fuels etc)

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[JoMar]

[QUOTE=44Apple;1789318]just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)[/QUOTE

Seriously? The climate has been changing since the beginning of time. Many continents have undergone drastic changes during that time! So in that sense I do believe in climate change. But what I do not believe is that we in anyway have anything to do with it or that we can in any way control it! And no one has ever been able to prove different nor will they ever! Lose the paranoia!

You are correct, it has always undergone drastic changes which was contributed to nature dispensing gasses into the atmosphere, volcano'e for one, the natural expansion of the planet environment for another. What has changed is the speed in which it is changing. For us, the debate is meaningless since we will all be dead. What isn't meaningless is how our kids and grandkids feel about it. As with most things, it's in their hands and they could care less about what we think since they blame us for the state of stuff they are saddled with. They think and believe differently then we do, have more than a casual interest in different causes and seem more interested in consultive solutions rather than rhetoric. I wish them the best.

[Alana33]

Attempting to explain the difference between temporary "weather" and long-term "climate," while laudable...doesn't fit the agenda of the 'Climate Deniers.'

It's very analogous to the 'Flat Earthers,' that can be found...all around the globe. :D

Don't you understand, that making any personal sacrifice or inconvenience now, for the benefit of our children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren...is simply unacceptable? :ohdear: (insert facetious emoji here)

One can educate the ignorant but not the willfully stupid.

[Number 10 GI]

When Gore predicted an ice free arctic would likely occur 10 years ago, he was using data from a lot of 'Scientists' at NASA, NOAA etc. Question is, who's behind the scientists?

Good ole Al. Flying all over the place expelling copious amounts of C02 to tell everyone we should scale back on activities that create excess greenhouse gasses. I lived in Tennessee for 34 years before moving here and our greatest embarrassment was Al. He has quite the home in Nashville and there was report in the news about how much electrical energy that palace used. His electric usage was equal to about 20 average homes in the area. Just like all the celebrities that fly around in private jets lecturing us to conserve more and stop polluting the air.

[Topspinmo]

From NASA.


Climate Scientists (poke here) (http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/)





Note that ONLY "ACTIVELY PUBLISHING, PEER-REVIEWED CLIMATE SCIENTISTS" (NOT...politicians/scientists in other fields/non peer-reviewed/Etc.) are included.

That sure eliminates a lot of the Riffraff. :D



:ho:

Key word ——— wait for it————-LIKELY:boom:

[nututv]

Good ole Al. Flying all over the place expelling copious amounts of C02 to tell everyone we should scale back on activities that create excess greenhouse gasses. I lived in Tennessee for 34 years before moving here and our greatest embarrassment was Al. He has quite the home in Nashville and there was report in the news about how much electrical energy that palace used. His electric usage was equal to about 20 average homes in the area. Just like all the celebrities that fly around in private jets lecturing us to conserve more and stop polluting the air.
haha. And now the expert is some 14 year old Swedish chick. :1rotfl:

[rsibole]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)


The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from the Consulate at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard of temperatures in the Arctic zone.

Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.


Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.

Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.


Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.


Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coast cities uninhabitable.

I must apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2 , 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post 98 years ago. And, don’t forget to wash your hands too.

[Edmond]

You know back in the 70s they were predicting an ice age. They then switched to global warming. Now they call it climate change. So tell me one thing they have predicted that came through!! Remember it is hard for a meteroligist to get the weather right just a few days out and these so called climatologists are predicting our weather 10,20,or50 years out!! I don’t think so!! Go to Tony Heller’s web site to get correct info

[OhioBuckeye]

just like Covid is. America should be leading the charge against both problems, not ignoring them or denying the science behind them.

Temperature surpasses 100 degrees Fahrenheit in Arctic Russian town - Europe - Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/temperature-surpasses-100-degrees-fahrenheit-in-arctic-russian-town-1.634623)
I agree it is a hoax, it's just another way for them to get more tax money to support it. Just like the one that was getting millions for GlobalWarming, now you don't even hear about him or see him.

[ColdNoMore]

Rhetorical question only.


Why is it, that so many things requiring an acknowledgement of personal responsibility, actions and/or possible personal sacrifice for the good of future generations...instantly labeled as a "hoax?" :oops:


Purely selfish attitudes?


I'm sure it's just a coincidence though. :ohdear:

[nututv]

Why is it, that so many things requiring an acknowledgement of personal responsibility, actions and/or possible personal sacrifice for the good of future generations...instantly labeled as a hoax?"

Purely selfish attitudes?


I'm sure it's just a coincidence though.


I was told by someone here just last week that picking up discarded covid masks and gloves was not their job and that someone else should be responsible. Sound familiar? I guess that would be me though as I have to do it all the time.
When is the last time you purposely went into the woods to clean it up? Myself, last night (usually 3 trips a week for me) for 3 hours and I picked up a ton of crap from bottles, to diapers, a hat, pair of socks. Plastics, garbage etc is just as much a danger to humans than anything else IMO and it can be proven! It's killing wildlife and humans by the millions annually.
Everyone wants a fix but no one holds themselves responsible. The hypocrisy is sickening!
Concerned about the melting ice? When is the last time you took a bicycle or walked to the store instead of your car or cart. What's your a/c set at? When is the last time you turned it up a few degrees and your hot water temp is set at??? When is the last time you walked to one of the squares?
Did you buy a new car or home? Should have bought used, they've already been built and are less impact on the environment.
Want grand kids? Sure, we need more people also.

[ColdNoMore]

I was told by someone here just last week that picking up discarded covid masks and gloves was not their job and that someone else should be responsible. Sound familiar? I guess that would be me though as I have to do it all the time.
When is the last time you purposely went into the woods to clean it up? Myself, last night (usually 3 trips a week for me) for 3 hours and I picked up a ton of crap from bottles, to diapers, a hat, pair of socks. Plastics, garbage etc is just as much a danger to humans than anything else IMO and it can be proven! It's killing wildlife and humans by the millions annually.
Everyone wants a fix but no one holds themselves responsible. The hypocrisy is sickening!
Concerned about the melting ice? When is the last time you took a bicycle or walked to the store instead of your car or cart. What's your a/c set at? When is the last time you turned it up a few degrees and your hot water temp is set at??? When is the last time you walked to one of the squares?
Did you buy a new car or home? Should have bought used, they've already been built and are less impact on the environment.
Want grand kids? Sure, we need more people also.

Well then, obviously some of my points didn't apply to you...so you shouldn't take any umbrage. :confused:

While I'm not going to publicly list what I do/have done/am doing, in the quest for a pat on the back...good for you. :thumbup:

I think you deserve...a statue. :D

[nututv]

Never asked for anything, don't deserve anything, never thought I did. Thank you for trying to think for me again though. Wrong once again. lol

[Boston1945]

Dinosaurs are a hoax and fake news, since the earth...is only 10,000 years old.

Just ask... :oops:

I hope you are joking here.

[ColdNoMore]

I hope you are joking here.


Not Joking...In The Least (click here) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism)

Young Earth creationism (YEC) is a form of creationism which holds as a central tenet that the Earth and its lifeforms were created in their present forms by supernatural acts of a deity between approximately 6,000 and 10,000 years ago.[1][2]

In its most widespread version, YEC is based on the religious belief in the inerrancy of certain literal interpretations of the Book of Genesis.[3][4]

Its primary adherents are Christians who believe that God created the Earth in six days,[5][6] in contrast with old Earth creationism (OEC), which holds literal interpretations of Genesis that are compatible with the scientifically determined ages of the Earth and universe.

[nututv]

Heard it straight from a guy once. I asked him about fossils. His reply was what fossils? All I've seen are a bunch of rocks that are shaped like bones. I remember leaving quickly.

[Indydealmaker]

Manmade climate change IS a hoax. Everything else is cyclical normality.

[GoodLife]

Rhetorical question only.


Why is it, that so many things requiring an acknowledgement of personal responsibility, actions and/or possible personal sacrifice for the good of future generations...instantly labeled as a "hoax?" :oops:


Purely selfish attitudes?


I'm sure it's just a coincidence though. :ohdear:

It wasn't "instantly labeled a hoax" It started when Michael Mann's hockey stick was found to be based on fraudulent data and when the hacked emails of several prominent climate scientists were leaked showing them talking about things like "we have to get rid of the medieval warming period" Other studies have shown that temperature records have been "adjusted" to make the graphs look more alarming.

[Bucco]

So what was the actual data for the first quarter of 2020? Did this climate chabge denial website get it right? Of course not.

It's very easy for me to find myriad instances where global warming theories have been wrong as well. I wonder why they changed the name from global warming to climate change?


From NASA


“Global warming” refers to the long-term warming of the planet. Global temperature shows a well-documented rise since the early 20th century and most notably since the late 1970s. Worldwide, since 1880 the average surface temperature has risen about 1 °C (about 2 °F), relative to the mid-20th-century baseline (of 1951-1980). This is on top of about an additional 0.15 °C of warming from between 1750 and 1880.

“Climate change” encompasses global warming, but refers to the broader range of changes that are happening to our planet. These include rising sea levels; shrinking mountain glaciers; accelerating ice melt in Greenland, Antarctica and the Arctic; and shifts in flower/plant blooming times. These are all consequences of the warming, which is caused mainly by people burning fossil fuels and putting out heat-trapping gases into the air. The terms “global warming” and “climate change” are sometimes used interchangeably, but strictly they refer to slightly different things.“

What’s the difference between climate change and global warming? – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet (https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/12/whats-the-difference-between-climate-change-and-global-warming/)

[Aloha1]

As perhaps the only commenter on this thread with an actual Minor in Earth Science, I'm just gonna make some popcorn and enjoy the show. So many experts, so much lack of knowledge. How many of you were there for previous ice ages? How many of you know that we are still coming out of the last ice age? Did you know that grape growing for wine was common in the British Isles in the 12th century?? Climate change IS real. It's been going on for 4 billion years. Right now the amount of land mass on this planet is at or near the highest percentage of the planetary surface ever ( as far as we can tell). Weren't we all supposed to be underwater by now? And one final comment about "experts". Everyone today accepts the idea of plate tectonics, the fact that the planet's crust consists of moveable plates that shift, separate, and combine over the millennia. Yet that "theory" was roundly rejected by the "experts" of the day. Food for thought. And speaking of food, popcorns ready! :popcorn:

[kendi]

Agreed. Over the centuries planets cools and warms and now we are apparently in a warming cycle.

How much is man made is a question. We should do our best to use resources as efficiently as possible in any case.

I was on a glacier in Canada last year and the tour guide said we are still in the ice age, but at the very end. Meaning the climate is warming. Didn't need him to tell me that its normal for the climate to change though. As you indicate above, its a natural phenomenon.

[GoodLife]

From NASA


“Global warming” refers to the long-term warming of the planet. Global temperature shows a well-documented rise since the early 20th century and most notably since the late 1970s. Worldwide, since 1880 the average surface temperature has risen about 1 °C (about 2 °F), relative to the mid-20th-century baseline (of 1951-1980). This is on top of about an additional 0.15 °C of warming from between 1750 and 1880.

“Climate change” encompasses global warming, but refers to the broader range of changes that are happening to our planet. These include rising sea levels; shrinking mountain glaciers; accelerating ice melt in Greenland, Antarctica and the Arctic; and shifts in flower/plant blooming times. These are all consequences of the warming, which is caused mainly by people burning fossil fuels and putting out heat-trapping gases into the air. The terms “global warming” and “climate change” are sometimes used interchangeably, but strictly they refer to slightly different things.“

What’s the difference between climate change and global warming? – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet (https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/12/whats-the-difference-between-climate-change-and-global-warming/)

No cherry picking allowed in real climate science. If you look at the past 2000 years of temp data, you see that picking a start point in the middle of the little ice age (1400 to 1800) you get only rising temperatures. We're are almost as warm now as we were in the medieval warming period. They had a lot of V8 engines in medieval times, called them horses.

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[golf4dns]

And what percent of consumption?

[Incoblack1]

Arctic ice is melting! Mountain ice caps are decreasing! Seasonal temperatures are increasing! Ocean temperatures and water levels are increasing!The scientists of every other single country in the world except this one has accepted these facts. Are we really the smartest nation of all or are we led by science deniers??

[44Apple]

We have leadership that ignores climate change to the detriment of earth's future, and covid-19 which, among other things, might be halting travel to Europe from America which would make us look like world pariahs. Fun times.

[Neils]

Do you do YOUR part that would reduce the CO2??

Is your house AC turned on?
Do you drive a car or golf cart?
Is your lawn mowed by a hand push mower?
Do you use your BBQ grill?

Unless YOU are doing something about it, then please stop telling us that it an emergency or expecting the government to solve the problem.

[44Apple]

Not solve but at least address it, work on it. Hard to understand?

[Strongel]

Arctic ice is melting! Mountain ice caps are decreasing! Seasonal temperatures are increasing! Ocean temperatures and water levels are increasing!The scientists of every other single country in the world except this one has accepted these facts. Are we really the smartest nation of all or are we led by science deniers??

I think many of these people don’t deny it, just what is causing the phenomenon.

[Strongel]

It's been hashed over too many times and people still ignore it. I don't think people dispute the climate is changing. The dispute is what the cause is.
There isn't any more (or less) water on this planet than there really ever was regarding this argument.
Sea levels have risen and fallen over the millennia. Florida had salt water beaches further inland than Gainesville at one time. It happened before, it'll probably happen again.

Common sense won’t be tolerated.

[Polar Bear]

...The scientists of every other single country in the world except this one has accepted these facts...
I would doubt that claim regardless of what the topic might be.