View Full Version : First Black Billionaire Mocks Cancel Culture and the Anarchists Toppling Statues
GoodLife
06-25-2020, 10:34 AM
I have noticed that most of the groups currently defacing and tearing down statues are mostly white. What started with confederate generals has now expanded to former Presidents including Lincoln, former Union Generals like Grant, even Miguel de Cervantes, himself a former slave.
So I found these comments by Robert Johnson, founder of BET and America's first black billionaire interesting.
“Look, the people who are basically tearing down statues, trying to make a statement are basically borderline anarchists, the way I look at it,” Johnson told Fox News on Wednesday. “They really have no agenda other than the idea we’re going to topple a statue.”
“It’s not going to give a kid whose parents can’t afford college money to go to college. It’s not going to close the labor gap between what white workers are paid and what black workers are paid. And it’s not going to take people off welfare or food stamps,” Johnson insisted.
He insisted that the rioters tearing down statues “have the mistaken assumption that black people are sitting around cheering for them saying, ‘Oh, my God, look at these white people. They’re doing something so important to us. They’re taking down the statue of a Civil War general who fought for the South.'”
“You know, black people, in my opinion, black people laugh at white people who do this the same way we laugh at white people who say we got to take off the TV shows."
Robert Johnson also supports trillions in reparations for slavery, something I don't agree with. But there's no law that says I have to agree with everything someone thinks or says. There's only one person I agree with 100% of the time. :)
I have also seen numerous reports that the families/descendants of many of the former women who portrayed Aunt Jemima are furious about the rebranding. They feel their family history is being erased and say these women were not slaves and enjoyed their nicely paying jobs. Google it if you care to read the reports. I also searched for families of former Aunt Jemimas support rebranding efforts, couldn't find any. If you search that, all you get are reports of them mad about the rebranding.
retiredguy123
06-25-2020, 11:03 AM
I think most of his points are pretty obvious. But, does being a billionarie make your opinion more valuable?
GoodLife
06-25-2020, 11:59 AM
I think most of his points are pretty obvious. But, does being a billionarie make your opinion more valuable?
No it doesn't make it more valuable. Johnson parents were a school teacher mother and a farmer father and they had 10 children. The fact that he went on to graduate from Princeton and became a billionaire by creating the first cable network aimed at African Americans certainly makes him worth listening to on what blacks are thinking.
I think his opinions on cancel culture and statue toppling are correct in that it is driven by white's mostly.
Stu from NYC
06-25-2020, 12:07 PM
Bottom line is the people doing the destruction should fined themselves in a jail cell very quickly
GoodLife
06-25-2020, 12:18 PM
I also think the voices of various descendants of the Aunt Jemimas speak louder than all the wokeologists in the world.
New Englander
06-25-2020, 02:45 PM
Why is this destruction being allowed? When will it stop? These hooligans need to be arrested and severely punished. I'm dam well sick of this crap being allowed to continue. Of course the media keeps feeding the flames.
jacksonbrown
06-25-2020, 04:36 PM
Which poses a bigger threat to black communities: Racism? Or the absence of fathers? (https://www.prageru.com/video/black-fathers-matter/)
ColdNoMore
06-25-2020, 05:44 PM
Which poses a bigger threat to black communities: Racism? Or the absence of fathers? (https://www.prageru.com/video/black-fathers-matter/)
Prager U...AGAIN? :oops:
OK, I'll post this again then too, which goes a long ways in explaining the low #'s of black father's, since so many are in prison for much longer periods...than whites for the exact same offenses. :ohdear:
13TH (educate yourself here) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_(film))
:ho:
Lindsyburnsy
06-25-2020, 06:44 PM
I don't understand rebranding either. There have been updates through the years and I would feel the same way as the family that I would rather they keep her picture on the label. We have come a long way from the bandana wrapped around Mammy's head and the updated labelling, in my humble opinion, was lovely.
kcrazorbackfan
06-25-2020, 07:36 PM
Bottom line is the people doing the destruction should fined themselves in a jail cell very quickly
But because of "certain people" that hate Police Officers and are trying to pass bills aimed against Police Officers, this will never happen.
And to hear that these bills are being created in memory of a convicted felon; a person, that among many other criminal acts, once held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant woman - VERY DISGUSTING THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
Girlcopper
06-26-2020, 05:37 AM
I have noticed that most of the groups currently defacing and tearing down statues are mostly white. What started with confederate generals has now expanded to former Presidents including Lincoln, former Union Generals like Grant, even Miguel de Cervantes, himself a former slave.
So I found these comments by Robert Johnson, founder of BET and America's first black billionaire interesting.
“Look, the people who are basically tearing down statues, trying to make a statement are basically borderline anarchists, the way I look at it,” Johnson told Fox News on Wednesday. “They really have no agenda other than the idea we’re going to topple a statue.”
“It’s not going to give a kid whose parents can’t afford college money to go to college. It’s not going to close the labor gap between what white workers are paid and what black workers are paid. And it’s not going to take people off welfare or food stamps,” Johnson insisted.
He insisted that the rioters tearing down statues “have the mistaken assumption that black people are sitting around cheering for them saying, ‘Oh, my God, look at these white people. They’re doing something so important to us. They’re taking down the statue of a Civil War general who fought for the South.'”
“You know, black people, in my opinion, black people laugh at white people who do this the same way we laugh at white people who say we got to take off the TV shows."
Robert Johnson also supports trillions in reparations for slavery, something I don't agree with. But there's no law that says I have to agree with everything someone thinks or says. There's only one person I agree with 100% of the time. :)
I have also seen numerous reports that the families/descendants of many of the former women who portrayed Aunt Jemima are furious about the rebranding. They feel their family history is being erased and say these women were not slaves and enjoyed their nicely paying jobs. Google it if you care to read the reports. I also searched for families of former Aunt Jemimas support rebranding efforts, couldn't find any. If you search that, all you get are reports of them mad about the rebranding.
Finally. An opinion that makes sense. Of course, all this rioting isnt for anything but thugs wanting to loot n destroy. And theyre trying to use the “poor blacks need to be freed” stance. Well, I didnt own slaves, i dont think there is anyone alive today who was a slave. Its history!! They need to stop this garbage, get a job and stop acting like animals in a zoo
mamamia54
06-26-2020, 05:42 AM
Is his opinion more valuable because he is a billionaire, no. His opinion is valuable because he sounds like he has a mind and brain that works. Which some people today seem to lack.
gregcharlesnelson@gmail
06-26-2020, 05:45 AM
In North Dakota they made the University (UND) drop its 'Fighting Sioux' name but the tribe still wanted it....let's move on to important issues
Bay Kid
06-26-2020, 06:45 AM
Bottom line is the people doing the destruction should fined themselves in a jail cell very quickly
You could end this destruction. If arrested for this destruction you lose your free government money.
Bay Kid
06-26-2020, 06:46 AM
I don't understand rebranding either. There have been updates through the years and I would feel the same way as the family that I would rather they keep her picture on the label. We have come a long way from the bandana wrapped around Mammy's head and the updated labelling, in my humble opinion, was lovely.
Everything bothers them. Just the beginning.
MandoMan
06-26-2020, 06:47 AM
I have a friend who told me yesterday that there is going to be a BLM protest march in her town in the northern Lehigh Valley of Pennsylvania today (30 minutes from Allentown). She was excited about it and planning to march, but worried because people opposed to the march have promised to be there, armed. Why a march? Her town has under 3,000 people. There are no African-Americans living there. She hasn’t heard of any police brutality there. The town votes 95% red. That suggests that the BLM marchers are doing this in hope of starting a confrontation that will turn violent and make the news and cause a lot of bad publicity for those opposed. I begged her to stay home, and maybe she will. This is so sad to see.
lwmilo
06-26-2020, 07:02 AM
I have noticed that most of the groups currently defacing and tearing down statues are mostly white. What started with confederate generals has now expanded to former Presidents including Lincoln, former Union Generals like Grant, even Miguel de Cervantes, himself a former slave.
So I found these comments by Robert Johnson, founder of BET and America's first black billionaire interesting.
“Look, the people who are basically tearing down statues, trying to make a statement are basically borderline anarchists, the way I look at it,” Johnson told Fox News on Wednesday. “They really have no agenda other than the idea we’re going to topple a statue.”
“It’s not going to give a kid whose parents can’t afford college money to go to college. It’s not going to close the labor gap between what white workers are paid and what black workers are paid. And it’s not going to take people off welfare or food stamps,” Johnson insisted.
He insisted that the rioters tearing down statues “have the mistaken assumption that black people are sitting around cheering for them saying, ‘Oh, my God, look at these white people. They’re doing something so important to us. They’re taking down the statue of a Civil War general who fought for the South.'”
“You know, black people, in my opinion, black people laugh at white people who do this the same way we laugh at white people who say we got to take off the TV shows."
Robert Johnson also supports trillions in reparations for slavery, something I don't agree with. But there's no law that says I have to agree with everything someone thinks or says. There's only one person I agree with 100% of the time. :)
I have also seen numerous reports that the families/descendants of many of the former women who portrayed Aunt Jemima are furious about the rebranding. They feel their family history is being erased and say these women were not slaves and enjoyed their nicely paying jobs. Google it if you care to read the reports. I also searched for families of former Aunt Jemimas support rebranding efforts, couldn't find any. If you search that, all you get are reports of them mad about the rebranding.
Make Aunt Jemima, White and see the PROTEST!!!
kenoc7
06-26-2020, 07:07 AM
Why is this destruction being allowed? When will it stop? These hooligans need to be arrested and severely punished. I'm dam well sick of this crap being allowed to continue. Of course the media keeps feeding the flames.
Because they are statues of people who attacked the USA. Are there statues of Hitler in Germany?
KRM0614
06-26-2020, 07:10 AM
Crazy it’s not white people it’s whichever network you’re watching ...who has been destroying businesses all over this country burning businesses, attacking owners shooting killing destroying lives but their lives didn’t matter. They were black and white. All of them should pay to repair all of the carnage
Lady Catherine
06-26-2020, 09:53 AM
Those T-shirts should read “Fathers Matter”!!! (Look at the facts folks! )
jimjamuser
06-26-2020, 10:50 AM
No it doesn't make it more valuable. Johnson parents were a school teacher mother and a farmer father and they had 10 children. The fact that he went on to graduate from Princeton and became a billionaire by creating the first cable network aimed at African Americans certainly makes him worth listening to on what blacks are thinking.
I think his opinions on cancel culture and statue toppling are correct in that it is driven by white's mostly.
He personifies the American dream. That takes smarts, hard work, and LUCK. He has credibility!
jimjamuser
06-26-2020, 11:08 AM
Because they are statues of people who attacked the USA. Are there statues of Hitler in Germany?
Civil war deaths were about 700,000. Population then was 31,443,322. That's 2.2%.
2.2% of today's population would be 7.7 million people. That's a lot!
Aloha1
06-26-2020, 12:13 PM
I have mixed feelings about Johnson. He has also said he wants reparations payments. My ancestors all came here AFTER the Civil War, none ever owned or condoned slaves or slavery. There was such abhorrence of slavery in this country 160 years ago that those who opposed it banded together and took the reins of power in America from those who supported slavery. And when those same supporters seceded from the Union we fought a bloody war to end slavery and did so.We have provided program after program to raise up the downtrodden since then and still do.
A hand up most certainly. But never a hand out.
Byte1
06-26-2020, 01:44 PM
Because they are statues of people who attacked the USA. Are there statues of Hitler in Germany?
What does Hitler have to do with America? Did Columbus attack the U.S.A?
ColdNoMore
06-26-2020, 01:47 PM
What does Hitler have to do with America? Did Columbus attack the U.S.A?
1. The "USA" didn't exist in Columbus' time.
2. Even if it did, Columbus never set foot...on what is now US soil. :oops:
coffeebean
06-26-2020, 03:00 PM
I think most of his points are pretty obvious. But, does being a billionarie make your opinion more valuable?
He is black. Does that help?
coffeebean
06-26-2020, 03:07 PM
But because of "certain people" that hate Police Officers and are trying to pass bills aimed against Police Officers, this will never happen.
And to hear that these bills are being created in memory of a convicted felon; a person, that among many other criminal acts, once held a gun to the stomach of a pregnant woman - VERY DISGUSTING THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
This is the guy who had a funeral fitting for a dignitary or Royalty. How absolutely ludicrous.
GoodLife
06-26-2020, 03:15 PM
Because they are statues of people who attacked the USA. Are there statues of Hitler in Germany?
Lincoln and Grant attacked the USA? Wow
GoodLife
06-26-2020, 03:19 PM
Civil war deaths were about 700,000. Population then was 31,443,322. That's 2.2%.
2.2% of today's population would be 7.7 million people. That's a lot!
And over 300,000 were Union soldiers, who gave their lives to defeat the confederates and free the slaves.
geofitz13
06-26-2020, 04:10 PM
Because they are statues of people who attacked the USA. Are there statues of Hitler in Germany?
Let's see. The leadership of the Confederacy, including the senior military officers, all served the Union prior to the Civil War. Could it be that they read the Declaration of Independence, and read that our forefathers said it was right for the people to change what they perceived as a bad government? Okay, they lost the war. They seem to have exercised their rights, and after the war, apparently were good citizens. So erase them from history because of a four year period?
The people who are taking down these statues are anarchists who only act on their own narrow beliefs. Who knows what those beliefs will be next week? What's next?
ColdNoMore
06-26-2020, 04:46 PM
Let's see. The leadership of the Confederacy, including the senior military officers, all served the Union prior to the Civil War. Could it be that they read the Declaration of Independence, and read that our forefathers said it was right for the people to change what they perceived as a bad government? Okay, they lost the war. They seem to have exercised their rights, and after the war, apparently were good citizens. So erase them from history because of a four year period?
The people who are taking down these statues are anarchists who only act on their own narrow beliefs. Who knows what those beliefs will be next week? What's next?
Don't "erase" traitors and those who saw nothing wrong with owning other human beings...from our history.
In fact, let's ensure that every school kid...knows ALL about them.
Just don't idolize them...on public property.
Especially since most of these statues/monuments were erected decades after the end of the Civil War and were primarily meant as a means of continuing Jim Crow laws...and intimidating black AMERICAN CITIZENS.
http://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/98d323ApcFHpSL_9QW9_f_1xVeo=/0x0:2000x821/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:2000x821):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9082387/timeline_whoseheritage.png
roscoguy
06-26-2020, 04:46 PM
Let's see. The leadership of the Confederacy, including the senior military officers, all served the Union prior to the Civil War. Could it be that they read the Declaration of Independence, and read that our forefathers said it was right for the people to change what they perceived as a bad government? Okay, they lost the war. They seem to have exercised their rights, and after the war, apparently were good citizens. So erase them from history because of a four year period?
The people who are taking down these statues are anarchists who only act on their own narrow beliefs. Who knows what those beliefs will be next week? What's next?
I'm afraid I can't follow your logic. So what if the Confederate officers served in the U.S. Army first? They declared cessation and then war to continue slavery, not really a "bad government" thing. Some former Confederate officers were very good citizens, others such as Forrest, not so much. Once again, as far as I'm aware, nobody here has justified what so many insist on calling 'erasing history'.
Further, if you see the Confederates as trying to change a bad government, aren't the protesters (NOT LOOTERS OR RIOTERS) doing pretty much the same?
ColdNoMore
06-26-2020, 04:59 PM
I'm afraid I can't follow your logic. So what if the Confederate officers served in the U.S. Army first? They declared cessation and then war to continue slavery, not really a "bad government" thing. Some former Confederate officers were very good citizens, others such as Forrest, not so much. Once again, as far as I'm aware, nobody here has justified what so many insist on calling 'erasing history'.
Further, if you see the Confederates as trying to change a bad government, aren't the protesters (NOT LOOTERS OR RIOTERS) doing pretty much the same?
You are correct, with just an itty-bitty, almost insignificant and hardly even worth mentioning difference...between the confederacy and the current protestors.
That being, one group is protesting for equal treatment and justice for black American Citizens and the other group not only didn't want blacks as American citizens (or even thought of as human beings)...but also wanted the right to own them like any other chattel.
Other than that...they are exactly the same. :ohdear:
roscoguy
06-27-2020, 07:57 AM
You are correct, with just an itty-bitty, almost insignificant and hardly even worth mentioning difference...between the confederacy and the current protestors.
That being, one group is protesting for equal treatment and justice for black American Citizens and the other group not only didn't want blacks as American citizens (or even thought of as human beings)...but also wanted the right to own them like any other chattel.
Other than that...they are exactly the same. :ohdear:
:agree: Very true! It could even be called one of the ultimate ironies. :shocked:
Dennys37Packard
06-27-2020, 10:28 AM
[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1792017][SIZE="3"]Prager U...AGAIN? :oops:
Not sure point you’re trying to make regarding fatherless homes, but according to NAACP website, blacks ARE 5 times more likely incarcerated, yes. But average total backs incarcerated yearly is 2 million + while black Fatherless homes average 6 million + . SO, one can understand what the claim Fatherless homes are Possibly the number one cause Of black kids getting into trouble because taking out the 2 million in jail, where are the OTHER 4 million men?
It doesn’t make it any easier, but I think Prager U makes a valid point. I know my Dad set me on a straighter path more than once in my life. More like .... more than a hundred😇.
I pray every day for racism to go away and let this country heal and move onwards, but just like a few bad cops need to be weeded out and let all the good ones do their jobs, we need to call out the race baiters and Those that profit off the continuing of this horrible divide. We are all people. Racism is learned. Put a bunch of babies or toddlers in a room at a daycare and they see friends, not color. Why can’t we all.
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 11:55 AM
Not sure point you’re trying to make regarding fatherless homes, but according to NAACP website, blacks ARE 5 times more likely incarcerated, yes. But average total backs incarcerated yearly is 2 million + while black Fatherless homes average 6 million + . SO, one can understand what the claim Fatherless homes are Possibly the number one cause Of black kids getting into trouble because taking out the 2 million in jail, where are the OTHER 4 million men?
It doesn’t make it any easier, but I think Prager U makes a valid point. I know my Dad set me on a straighter path more than once in my life. More like .... more than a hundred.
I pray every day for racism to go away and let this country heal and move onwards, but just like a few bad cops need to be weeded out and let all the good ones do their jobs, we need to call out the race baiters and Those that profit off the continuing of this horrible divide.
We are all people. Racism is learned. Put a bunch of babies or toddlers in a room at a daycare and they see friends, not color. Why can’t we all.
:agree: completely.
So why do we see so many, particularly here in TV...who don't think the same way? :ohdear:
DeanFL
06-27-2020, 12:13 PM
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coffeebean
06-27-2020, 03:13 PM
[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1792017]Prager U...AGAIN? :oops:
Not sure point you’re trying to make regarding fatherless homes, but according to NAACP website, blacks ARE 5 times more likely incarcerated, yes. But average total backs incarcerated yearly is 2 million + while black Fatherless homes average 6 million + . SO, one can understand what the claim Fatherless homes are Possibly the number one cause Of black kids getting into trouble because taking out the 2 million in jail, where are the OTHER 4 million men?
It doesn’t make it any easier, but I think Prager U makes a valid point. I know my Dad set me on a straighter path more than once in my life. More like .... more than a hundred😇.
I pray every day for racism to go away and let this country heal and move onwards, but just like a few bad cops need to be weeded out and let all the good ones do their jobs, we need to call out the race baiters and Those that profit off the continuing of this horrible divide. We are all people. Racism is learned. [SIZE="5"]Put a bunch of babies or toddlers in a room at a daycare and they see friends, not color. Why can’t we all.
This is the way it used to be for me but not now. I didn't see skin color; I saw the person. My entire outlook has changed now because of this BLM movement. I will never unsee what they are doing to our government and LEO. This crap has to stop NOW!!!
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 09:15 PM
This is the way it used to be for me but not now. I didn't see skin color; I saw the person. My entire outlook has changed now because of this BLM movement. I will never unsee what they are doing to our government and LEO. This crap has to stop NOW!!!
Serious question, what made you decide to judge the vast overall majority of protestors (who are doing so peacefully)...by the abhorrent actions of just a few?
Were you outraged at all young white men and lump them all together, when Dylan Roof slaughtered black parishioners...in their own church?
Do you judge all Baptist's and/or christians, by the disgusting actions and writings...of the Westboro Baptist Church?
Etc., etc., etc.
I'm just curious as to why you're now doing it...with Black Lives Matter? :confused:
coffeebean
07-01-2020, 06:30 AM
Serious question, what made you decide to judge the vast overall majority of protestors (who are doing so peacefully)...by the abhorrent actions of just a few?
Were you outraged at all young white men and lump them all together, when Dylan Roof slaughtered black parishioners...in their own church?
Do you judge all Baptist's and/or christians, by the disgusting actions and writings...of the Westboro Baptist Church?
Etc., etc., etc.
I'm just curious as to why you're now doing it...with Black Lives Matter? :confused:
I don't have to explain my personal feelings but I will give just a bit of insight......
Mass killings, in many instances, are a result of an individual who is mentally unstable. I'm sad but not outraged when killings happen to innocent people.
This BLM movement has left a very bad taste in my mouth and I can't get rid of it. "ALL LIVES MATTER" is criticized the BLM movement. Really? I'm disheartened it has come to this where all lives don't matter.
Luisa
07-01-2020, 08:10 AM
Those T-shirts should read “Fathers Matter”!!! (Look at the facts folks! )
Excellent point!
Bay Kid
07-01-2020, 08:23 AM
Who gave the children paint?
Gulfcoast
07-01-2020, 12:00 PM
I'm afraid I can't follow your logic. So what if the Confederate officers served in the U.S. Army first? They declared cessation and then war to continue slavery, not really a "bad government" thing. Some former Confederate officers were very good citizens, others such as Forrest, not so much. Once again, as far as I'm aware, nobody here has justified what so many insist on calling 'erasing history'.
Further, if you see the Confederates as trying to change a bad government, aren't the protesters (NOT LOOTERS OR RIOTERS) doing pretty much the same?
When the idea of a "peaceful protest" happening in your community strikes terror in your heart because you are afraid that something horrible is going to happen to your town that is no longer a peaceful thing.
Gulfcoast
07-01-2020, 12:09 PM
Crazy it’s not white people it’s whichever network you’re watching ...who has been destroying businesses all over this country burning businesses, attacking owners shooting killing destroying lives but their lives didn’t matter. They were black and white. All of them should pay to repair all of the carnage
Yep. The rioters are a pretty diverse crowd. So are their victims.
This is not about race although some folks sure love to play that card. It makes them untouchable.
Heaven Bound
07-01-2020, 02:29 PM
more like animals in the wild
Northwoods
07-01-2020, 10:13 PM
Serious question, what made you decide to judge the vast overall majority of protestors (who are doing so peacefully)...by the abhorrent actions of just a few?
:confused:
Serious question, what made you decide to judge the vast overall majority of police officers (who are doing their job correctly) by the abhorrent actions of just a few? :shocked::ohdear:
coffeebean
07-02-2020, 04:32 AM
Serious question, what made you decide to judge the vast overall majority of police officers (who are doing their job correctly) by the abhorrent actions of just a few? :shocked::ohdear:
Very good point. Thank you!
roscoguy
07-03-2020, 06:04 AM
When the idea of a "peaceful protest" happening in your community strikes terror in your heart because you are afraid that something horrible is going to happen to your town that is no longer a peaceful thing.
Your fear & the "terror in your heart" have nothing to do with what occurs during a peaceful protest. Stop trying to equate actual peaceful protests with rioting & looting.
roscoguy
07-03-2020, 06:10 AM
Serious question, what made you decide to judge the vast overall majority of police officers (who are doing their job correctly) by the abhorrent actions of just a few? :shocked::ohdear:
Did I miss something? Who made that claim?
Aloha1
07-03-2020, 03:46 PM
Did I miss something? Who made that claim?
You know who.
roscoguy
07-04-2020, 05:04 AM
You know who.
No, I really don't & I reviewed the entire thread... Show me.
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