View Full Version : WHAT? Now "DIXIE" is a BAD/RACIST WORD?
DeanFL
06-26-2020, 07:08 AM
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Really? When will this stuff end? What would this solve? Who would pay for re-branding etc? Are you as tired of this as I am???
WINN-DIXIE SUPERMARKETS
CONSIDER CHANGING 95-YEAR-OLD NAME ...
After George Floyd's Death
One of the largest supermarket chains based in the Southeast is considering dropping its name after nearly 100 years ... a move triggered by the death of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement.
Sources at Winn-Dixie tell TMZ ... the supermarket chain -- billed as a southern heritage brand serving Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana and Mississippi -- is considering changing its name because, just like The Chicks, it deems the term "Dixie" as problematic due to ties to the old south and its way of thinking.
The Dixie Chicks Changed Their Name Because The Word 'Dixie' Is Problematic
They're now simply "The Chicks."
Access Denied (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article243803312.html)
TMZ report: Winn-Dixie considering new name | Jax Daily Record | Jacksonville Daily Record - Jacksonville, Florida (https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/tmz-report-winn-dixie-considering-new-name)
dewilson58
06-26-2020, 07:09 AM
:ohdear:
davem4616
06-26-2020, 07:10 AM
ya had to know that this was coming....
billethkid
06-26-2020, 07:27 AM
Unfortunately not a new "thing".
Last year, Dolly Parton's theme park called Dixie Stampede was changed to Dolly Parton's Stampeded because it was supposedly insensitive to some.
I would have never ever have guessed she would succumb to such minority and special interest complaining.
The majority loses another one....and will be ongoing as long as we continue to allow it!!!!
Stu from NYC
06-26-2020, 07:56 AM
This is getting more absurd by the day
Just downright ridiculous. Stop the madness!!!
coffeebean
06-26-2020, 08:12 AM
I said this in another thread but I have no idea which thread it was.......
What about Dixie Land music? Is that name going to be changed? This is getting beyond ridiculous!
JoelJohnson
06-26-2020, 08:17 AM
250 years of oppression, I can't imagine why it's offensive. (since people can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!)
OrangeBlossomBaby
06-26-2020, 09:03 AM
Well to the surprise of almost no one, the TMZ article was incorrect (aka fake news). According to the chain's spokesman Joe Caldwell, they have no plans to change their name and hadn't been considering it. He did say his company is supported of BLM, and against racism, and would always serve the needs of its communities. So it seems that he's left it open to possibility even though right now it's not on the table for consideration.
Also he reminded everyone that the name of the company is Southeastern Groceries. So that sort of leaves it open for the possibility that they'll just drop the Winn-Dixie part completely and go with SE Groceries, since everyone who shops there already is familiar with that as their label for all their store-brand products anyway.
LuckyS
06-26-2020, 10:07 AM
Guess plantation and master will be next
brianherlihy
06-26-2020, 10:10 AM
i think we all stop it now
wisbad1
06-26-2020, 10:10 AM
I said this in another thread but I have no idea which thread it was.......
What about Dixie Land music? Is that name going to be changed? This is getting beyond ridiculous!
Dixie cup?
fdpaq0580
06-26-2020, 10:15 AM
250 years of oppression, I can't imagine why it's offensive. (since people can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!)
Dear Guest,
First, I do understand your sarcasm.
Second, I do understand that some individuals could find "Dixie" offensive.
Third, taking both first and second responses into consideration, I do still believe that, in some cases, the removal of certain words because someone finds them offensive could eventually, if taken to excess, limit discourse that is necessary.
I have known girls/women who were named "Dixie". Think of how greatly demanding they change their names, names given by loving parents, might offend them, their family's and friends. How does this add positively to the much needed conversation. And, this is only one of the many examples that could be shown.
As for the "250 years of oppression", there is no denying that injustice is a sad stain on the fabric of our nation's history. It has left a scar on us all. But it is time to look up from that scar and focus on the future and acknowledge the positive advancements since those times and look forward to a better and brighter future.
Living with hate, dwelling on the past and continually picking at the scar of past injustices will only reopen old wounds and aggravate all sides.
Are things not better today than in those old days? Have things not changed? I think so, but I also believe there is much left to do.
So, do you want to work together to improve things for all? Or do you want to continue living with anger because you can't let go othe ugly past and squabble over details like the name "Dixie"?
I choose a peaceful future together.
mamamia54
06-26-2020, 10:22 AM
Oh no, please not Dixie Cups. What will I tell my husband. Honey, would you like me to get you more Dixie Cups. Oh wait, I mean that no name cup with vanilla and chocolate, oh wait, not chocolate. The cup with the vanilla and darker vanilla ice cream next to it. Oh wait, darker is not politically correct either. Honey, I think you better switch to creamsicles!
Stu from NYC
06-26-2020, 10:27 AM
Oh no, please not Dixie Cups. What will I tell my husband. Honey, would you like me to get you more Dixie Cups. Oh wait, I mean that no name cup with vanilla and chocolate, oh wait, not chocolate. The cup with the vanilla and darker vanilla ice cream next to it. Oh wait, darker is not politically correct either. Honey, I think you better switch to creamsicles!
I do not remember why but think creamsicles are inherently racist.
daddymac1127
06-26-2020, 10:36 AM
I am of Irish descent and proud of it. Imagine if we didn't have drunk Irish jokes. There would be no laughter.
I completely realize that the Black Lives Matter movement is very important.
Many things need to change but we do all need to be able to laugh at ourselves.
Hopefully we will not be losing our right to free speech.
DeanFL
06-26-2020, 10:58 AM
I am of Irish descent and proud of it. Imagine if we didn't have drunk Irish jokes. There would be no laughter.
I completely realize that the Black Lives Matter movement is very important.
Many things need to change but we do all need to be able to laugh at ourselves.
Hopefully we will not be losing our right to free speech.
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Yes - I'm originally from Chicago - POLISH jokes galore. Italian jokes, same, I'd guess you name a 'descent' and jokes abound. Same for religion. Those comments/jokes etc are still fine, BUT...
It's sad we seem to now need an "OFFENSIVE FILTER" for everything we say, joke, link to on the Net, comment, etc etc. One main reason we DO NOT have Alexa in our home...who knows...
Stu from NYC
06-26-2020, 11:15 AM
I am of Irish descent and proud of it. Imagine if we didn't have drunk Irish jokes. There would be no laughter.
I completely realize that the Black Lives Matter movement is very important.
Many things need to change but we do all need to be able to laugh at ourselves.
Hopefully we will not be losing our right to free speech.
Scary times we do need to stop taking "everything" so seriously.
Aloha1
06-26-2020, 12:07 PM
635,000 Civil War casualities weren't enough?? As to BLM, read their Manifesto. It is a self proclaimed Marxist organization. Many companies are doing what Lenin
proclaimed, "They will sell us the rope we will use to hang them". No money to BLM but all money to help School Choice, internships, improving neighborhoods. And while we're at it, end the ridiculous requirement that if you're on welfare, you can't have a male in the house. That alone was the major cause of breaking up families and the rise in out of wedlock births.
Velvet
06-26-2020, 12:26 PM
Where is there a list of words and phrases that are considered offensive? It seems to be changing rapidly and I would like to know if I happen to use one by accident.
DeanFL
06-26-2020, 12:54 PM
Where is there a list of words and phrases that are considered offensive? It seems to be changing rapidly and I would like to know if I happen to use one by accident.
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Offensive words for people according to nationality or ethnicity
RELATED WORDS
black NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black person. This word is sometimes considered offensive, so you should be very careful about using it.
Canuck NOUN
AMERICANINFORMAL someone who is Canadian, especially French Canadian. This word is sometimes used as an insult.
colored NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black person
coloured
the British spelling of colored
Coloured NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE someone who has one parent or grandparent who is white and one who is not
coolie NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word used in the past for a worker with no special skills in China, India, and other parts of Asia
coon NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black person
cracker NOUN
AMERICAN an insulting word for a poor white person who lives in the southeastern U.S.
dago NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a person from Italy, Spain, Portugal, or South America
Eskimo NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a member of the Inuit people. This word is now sometimes considered offensive.
frog NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a French person
gipsy
a British spelling of gypsy
gook NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE a very offensive word for someone from Asia
goy NOUN
OFFENSIVE someone who is not Jewish
gringo NOUN
an insulting word used by some people from South America for someone from another country who speaks English, especially someone from the U.S.
gypsy NOUN
OFFENSIVE a Romany
half-breed NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a person who has parents of two different races, especially someone with one white parent and one Native American parent. A more polite expression is person of mixed race.
half-caste NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone who has parents of two different races. A more polite expression is person of mixed race.
haole NOUN
in Hawaiian English, a white person
honky NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a white person
Indian NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a Native American
Injun NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a Native American. You may see or hear this word, but do not use it.
Jerry NOUN
MAINLY BRITISHOFFENSIVEINFORMAL an insulting word for a German
jock NOUN
BRITISHOFFENSIVE an insulting word for someone from Scotland
kaffir NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE a black person
kafir NOUN
OFFENSIVE a word meaning “non-believer,” used by some Muslims to describe someone who is not a Muslim
Kraut NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a German
makwerekwere NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE a term used in South Africa for foreigners from the rest of Africa
mammy NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word sometimes used in the past for a black woman who took care of other people’s children, mainly in the southern U.S.
mick NOUN
BRITISHOFFENSIVE an insulting word for an Irish person
mulatto NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone who has one black parent and one white parent
native NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone belonging to a group who lived in a place before Europeans arrived there
negress NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black woman
negro NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black person. This word is now considered offensive but until the second half of the 20th century it was an accepted word, used by black people as well as white.
****** NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a black person
nonwhite ADJECTIVE
belonging to a race of people that does not have pale skin. This word is considered offensive when it is used to separate white from nonwhite people for political or economic reasons.
oriental NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED someone from eastern Asia, especially China or Japan. This word is now considered offensive.
Paddy NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for an Irish person
pakeha NOUN
NEW ZEALAND a white person in New Zealand, especially someone whose family originally came from Europe
paleface NOUN
OFFENSIVE a white person. This word is sometimes used as an insult by Native Americans.
pickaninny NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black child. This word is sometimes used by older white people but most people consider it offensive.
Polack NOUN
AMERICAN an insulting word for someone from Poland. The usual word is Pole.
pommy NOUN
AUSTRALIANINFORMAL a slightly insulting word for someone from the U.K., especially someone from England
primitive NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED someone from a primitive society. This word is now considered offensive.
Pygmy NOUN
a member of a people who are of less than average height. Most Pygmies live in Central Africa or Southeast Asia. This word is now sometimes considered offensive.
Red Indian NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a Native American. This word is now considered to be offensive.
redskin NOUN
OFFENSIVE a word used in the past to refer to a Native American, now regarded as very offensive
savage ADJECTIVE
OLD-FASHIONED an insulting way of describing someone or something from a culture that is not considered to be advanced. This is now considered offensive.
savage NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED an insulting word for someone from a culture that is not considered to be advanced. This is now considered offensive.
spade NOUN
OFFENSIVE a very offensive word for a black person
squaw NOUN
OFFENSIVE an old word for a Native American woman. This is now considered offensive.
Taffy NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for someone from Wales
Uncle Tom NOUN
an insulting word for a black person who the speaker thinks shows too much respect for white people. This word is used especially by other black people.
WASP NOUN
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant: a word for people who are white and have money, power, and opportunities that other people do not have
wetback NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone from Mexico who goes to live in the U.S.
whitey NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word for a white person
wog NOUN
OFFENSIVEBRITISH an extremely offensive word for a black person
wog NOUN
OFFENSIVEAUSTRALIAN an extremely offensive word for a person from a Mediterranean country
wop NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for an Italian person
Yank NOUN
IMPOLITE an insulting word for someone from the U.S.
Yankee NOUN
someone from the U.S.. This word is often used as an insulting word for referring to an American by people who are not from the U.S.
yid NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a Jewish person
English version of thesaurus of offensive words for people according to nationality or ethnicity
Velvet
06-26-2020, 12:58 PM
Thank you! English is my 3rd language and I have been known to use some of these words in their literary meaning. I am surprised about Taffy. My in-laws were from Wales and called their golden retriever Taffy.
Stu from NYC
06-26-2020, 01:02 PM
Since the whites in this company seem to have become irrelevant can they call us honkies?
DeanFL
06-26-2020, 01:34 PM
Since the whites in this company seem to have become irrelevant can they call us honkies?
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I'm an 'older' white guy - German/English to the best of my knowledge.
If I was referred to as "cracker, goy, gringo, honky, Jerry, Kraut, paleface, pommy, whitey, Yank, Yankee I'd laugh out loud. really. and wait for a punch line...NOT give a punch.
THIS I DO find offensive>
"Uncle Tom NOUN
an insulting word for a black person who the speaker thinks shows too much respect for white people. This word is used especially by other black people."
WHAT???
graciegirl
06-26-2020, 01:39 PM
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I'm an 'older' white guy - German/English to the best of my knowledge.
If I was referred to as "cracker, goy, gringo, honky, Jerry, Kraut, paleface, pommy, whitey, Yank, Yankee I'd laugh out loud. really. and wait for a punch line...NOT give a punch.
THIS I DO find offensive>
"Uncle Tom NOUN
an insulting word for a black person who the speaker thinks shows too much respect for white people. This word is used especially by other black people."
WHAT???
I dated a fella for awhile whose mother told him Shicksa's were for practice. I was really surprised to hear what it meant.. I never did like his mother.
mamamia54
06-26-2020, 02:30 PM
I do not remember why but think creamsicles are inherently racist.
Oh no, now no Dixie cups or creamsicles. What next. This is just becoming a joke. How can you take any of this seriously with all this nonsense going on. Removing all history, good or bad, isn’t the answer.
manaboutown
06-26-2020, 02:35 PM
Guess plantation and master will be next
I heard some RE sales outfit is no longer going to refer to master bedrooms and master bathrooms as such, taking "master" out of their inventory of descriptors.
DeanFL
06-26-2020, 02:37 PM
I dated a fella for awhile whose mother told him Shicksa's were for practice. I was really surprised to hear what it meant.. I never did like his mother.
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so GG - during 'practice' - did you let him round 3rd to home?
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Velvet
06-26-2020, 02:41 PM
It feels so nice not to have a clue as to what you might be talking about.... ;)
Stu from NYC
06-26-2020, 02:54 PM
It feels so nice not to have a clue as to what you might be talking about.... ;)
I do:):)
manaboutown
06-26-2020, 06:21 PM
Master Lock may have to change its name and rename its products as their names contain offensive words. Here is an ad for one from Target "Master" Lock 40mm "Shackle" Key Lock "Black". Thank you for noting this Larry Elder.
https://www.target.com/p/master-lock-40mm-shackle-key-lock-black/-/A-14440015?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&fndsrc=tgtao&CPNG=PLA_Home%2BImprovement%2BShopping_Local&adgroup=SC_Home%2BImprovement&LID=700000001170770pgs&network=g&device=c&location=9031579&ds_rl=1246978&ds_rl=1247068&ds_rl=1248099&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItP3J6s6g6gIVkIbACh0L5weWEAYYASAB EgKmp_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Stu from NYC
06-26-2020, 08:49 PM
Oh no, now no Dixie cups or creamsicles. What next. This is just becoming a joke. How can you take any of this seriously with all this nonsense going on. Removing all history, good or bad, isn’t the answer.
I do not take any of this seriously hopefully this is just a stupid phase we are going thru.
Cannot believe a very small part of our country is taking over.
DrBrutyle109
06-27-2020, 05:15 AM
Nothing is perfect and these and as long as there are stupid people, we will have problems. It’s better than it was 300 YEARS AGO......and of course we still need to improve. What will they call the golf tournament.....
We can’t call it “The Masters”....that’s offensive. How about working on things that would help move things forward. Changing names ain’t gonna do it.
Warren
06-27-2020, 05:30 AM
She doesn't own the park. She may have some minority interest. She is being paid for the use of her name. I would guess she has some say in what goes on there according to contract.
Birdwatch
06-27-2020, 05:34 AM
I guess this means Dixie Cups are gone.
Jeanette.U
06-27-2020, 05:40 AM
Guess plantation and master will be next
You are right about “master”. I read that Houston Association of Realtors is changing master bedroom/bathroom to “primary” bedroom/bathroom
camaguey48
06-27-2020, 05:46 AM
How cowardly of these companies succumbing to pressure from the pc mob. We are allowing to be led by the nose by a group of people whose sole aim is to destroy our history and our nation. When is corporate America gonna have the gonads to say "enough!"
We are also complicit by allowing this to happen. Totalitarianism and the loss of freedom of expression is next. Welcome to the new Amerika. No longer as free nation. The silent majority can be silent no more!
camaguey48
06-27-2020, 05:48 AM
I have a friend whose company name begins with Dixie. I wonder when he will capitulate.
camaguey48
06-27-2020, 05:50 AM
Totalitarianism is here.
Girlcopper
06-27-2020, 05:54 AM
Well to the surprise of almost no one, the TMZ article was incorrect (aka fake news). According to the chain's spokesman Joe Caldwell, they have no plans to change their name and hadn't been considering it. He did say his company is supported of BLM, and against racism, and would always serve the needs of its communities. So it seems that he's left it open to possibility even though right now it's not on the table for consideration.
Also he reminded everyone that the name of the company is Southeastern Groceries. So that sort of leaves it open for the possibility that they'll just drop the Winn-Dixie part completely and go with SE Groceries, since everyone who shops there already is familiar with that as their label for all their store-brand products anyway.
Fake news? No, that would never happen. :-). People need to fact check their sources before posting
Mardarlowe
06-27-2020, 05:58 AM
I know. We could call it Malcolm X market. Fill it with Oprah pancake syrup. Then declare racism to be over and history never happened.
Bikeracer2009
06-27-2020, 06:13 AM
I didn't look up the meaning of Dixie so I'm just going by my memory of an old song. I think the term "Dixie" refers to Confederate land or states.
dbmachine
06-27-2020, 06:22 AM
Like mentioned above, master lock company is under the gun. Also realtors are changing listings from Master bedroom to just primary bedroom. Master card I’m sure will put out a statement soon. Any of you car mechanics that know what a slave cyclinder is, guess what it’s being changed in schematic diagrams and other auto parts stores.
Judy n Ron
06-27-2020, 06:35 AM
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Really? When will this stuff end? What would this solve? Who would pay for re-branding etc? Are you as tired of this as I am???
WINN-DIXIE SUPERMARKETS
CONSIDER CHANGING 95-YEAR-OLD NAME ...
After George Floyd's Death
One of the largest supermarket chains based in the Southeast is considering dropping its name after nearly 100 years ... a move triggered by the death of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement.
Sources at Winn-Dixie tell TMZ ... the supermarket chain -- billed as a southern heritage brand serving Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana and Mississippi -- is considering changing its name because, just like The Chicks, it deems the term "Dixie" as problematic due to ties to the old south and its way of thinking.
The Dixie Chicks Changed Their Name Because The Word 'Dixie' Is Problematic
They're now simply "The Chicks."
Access Denied (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article243803312.html)
TMZ report: Winn-Dixie considering new name | Jax Daily Record | Jacksonville Daily Record - Jacksonville, Florida (https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/tmz-report-winn-dixie-considering-new-name)
Years ago WDW changed the name of their Dixie Landings resort to Port Orleans Riverside because of backlash. Now WDW is "re-imagining" the Splash Mountain Ride from Song of the South theme to The Princess and the Frog which portrays a princess "of color". No more Zippity Doo Dah. Judy and I were saying last week that Wynn-Dixie will be next. Congress is suggesting that Washington D.C. should be a state and renamed "Washington-Douglass" after Frederick Douglass who was born 2 decades AFTER Washingon D.C. was founded and had nothing to do with it. The history rewriting has just begun. Where is George Orwell?
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lwmilo
06-27-2020, 06:36 AM
How about southern song with a line " I wish I was in Dixie", should that be banned. Give an inch y'all lose a yard. Just saying.
Namvet.
Judy n Ron
06-27-2020, 06:39 AM
Guess plantation and master will be next
Hadn't thought about that. They need to change "The Masters" golf tournament. After all it IS held in Georgia, a former Confederate State right?:popcorn:
Neils
06-27-2020, 06:42 AM
Dear Guest,
First, I do understand your sarcasm.
Second, I do understand that some individuals could find "Dixie" offensive.
Third, taking both first and second responses into consideration, I do still believe that, in some cases, the removal of certain words because someone finds them offensive could eventually, if taken to excess, limit discourse that is necessary.
I have known girls/women who were named "Dixie". Think of how greatly demanding they change their names, names given by loving parents, might offend them, their family's and friends. How does this add positively to the much needed conversation. And, this is only one of the many examples that could be shown.
As for the "250 years of oppression", there is no denying that injustice is a sad stain on the fabric of our nation's history. It has left a scar on us all. But it is time to look up from that scar and focus on the future and acknowledge the positive advancements since those times and look forward to a better and brighter future.
Living with hate, dwelling on the past and continually picking at the scar of past injustices will only reopen old wounds and aggravate all sides.
Are things not better today than in those old days? Have things not changed? I think so, but I also believe there is much left to do.
So, do you want to work together to improve things for all? Or do you want to continue living with anger because you can't let go othe ugly past and squabble over details like the name "Dixie"?
I choose a peaceful future together.
Please explain “there is much left to do” Such as what exactly?
mambeg
06-27-2020, 06:45 AM
Should we ask Japan and Germany to change their names. They might be offensive to some people.
rnhoops1
06-27-2020, 06:57 AM
What are we going to call white bread???
davem4616
06-27-2020, 06:58 AM
This name changing is madness...and the brakes need to be put on this
if not our world will become pure vanilla (oops...that may have to change too)
I wonder how much it will cost to change all the street signs when "Dixie Hwy" gets renamed to something else... not to mention the cost of reprinting the stationary for all those businesses on that road
how many school districts will decide to change the names of schools
how many more communities will be asked to vote on changing the names of their city/town
how many people with the last names, Lee, Jefferson, Davis, Grant, Lincoln will change their names....we're going to have a lot more "Smiths" and "Jones" in the phone book (if we even continue to have phone books)
will the US paper and coin currency be recalled and reissued with different faces on them
will certain books be banned from the traditional summer reading list
Paporter
06-27-2020, 07:00 AM
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Really? When will this stuff end? What would this solve? Who would pay for re-branding etc? Are you as tired of this as I am???
WINN-DIXIE SUPERMARKETS
CONSIDER CHANGING 95-YEAR-OLD NAME ...
After George Floyd's Death
One of the largest supermarket chains based in the Southeast is considering dropping its name after nearly 100 years ... a move triggered by the death of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement.
Sources at Winn-Dixie tell TMZ ... the supermarket chain -- billed as a southern heritage brand serving Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana and Mississippi -- is considering changing its name because, just like The Chicks, it deems the term "Dixie" as problematic due to ties to the old south and its way of thinking.
The Dixie Chicks Changed Their Name Because The Word 'Dixie' Is Problematic
They're now simply "The Chicks."
Access Denied (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article243803312.html)
TMZ report: Winn-Dixie considering new name | Jax Daily Record | Jacksonville Daily Record - Jacksonville, Florida (https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/tmz-report-winn-dixie-considering-new-name)
The “cancel culture” is targeting the South, it’s history and people. Folks of the South are some of the most patriotic and God loving people in the Country. The cancel culture is set on division of Americans and wiping out our History. Enough is enough. God Bless America and her citizens!
noslices1
06-27-2020, 07:10 AM
Maybe they should change it to “Winn-Dicks”
DIver0258
06-27-2020, 07:38 AM
If you research BLM the organization does little for the black community. Too much fake news spreading hate and racial tension. There are issues with many forms of racism and prejudice in our nation. Slavery was world wide not just here in the United States. No one today had anything to do with slavery or the indentured servants from Europe. Time to move forward and stop race baiting and fake news to upset the masses! A name is just that a name, history is history, & we are whom we chose to be. I was raised as an army brat & served in the Navy, I have learned much about different cultures. Cultural diversity is a wonderful thing, to learn about others beliefs, customs, & heritage! Wake up folks this isn’t about racism it is about divide and conquer!
Beyond The Wall
06-27-2020, 07:42 AM
Another Woke Corporate ! Dixie Chicks haven’t had a song worth listing to in 10 years. Just shut up and sing.
Careyjan
06-27-2020, 07:43 AM
Realtors in some states can’t refer to ‘master’ bedrooms.
DecaturFargo
06-27-2020, 07:45 AM
And the problem is?
Stu from NYC
06-27-2020, 07:57 AM
What are we going to call white bread???
Even worse pumpernickel bread is often called black bread. Woe is all of us
Stu from NYC
06-27-2020, 07:58 AM
If you research BLM the organization does little for the black community. Too much fake news spreading hate and racial tension. There are issues with many forms of racism and prejudice in our nation. Slavery was world wide not just here in the United States. No one today had anything to do with slavery or the indentured servants from Europe. Time to move forward and stop race baiting and fake news to upset the masses! A name is just that a name, history is history, & we are whom we chose to be. I was raised as an army brat & served in the Navy, I have learned much about different cultures. Cultural diversity is a wonderful thing, to learn about others beliefs, customs, & heritage! Wake up folks this isn’t about racism it is about divide and conquer!
Your right and our media is leading the charge to destroying America as we know it.
allsport
06-27-2020, 07:59 AM
Here is just a little food for thought. No where in Germany are there statues to Hitler, schools named after him, stores with Nazi themes, theme parks called the Nazi experience. The confederacy was made up of traitors to the American government who wanted to keep people enslaved. I cannot imagine why any human being thinks that is a great thing to memorialize. The insensitivity to our brothers and sisters whose skin color is darker than ours is disgusting. Read history and be ashamed of what the south did.
Villages Kahuna
06-27-2020, 08:07 AM
One thing is for sure...if the management of Winn-Dixie didn’t think their continued use of the name wouldn’t have negative effects on their business, they wouldn’t be considering the change.
YOU may not like it, but business is business.
I’ll be interested whether my beloved Chicago Blackhawks bend to the pressure of some native Americans and a lot more liberals to change their classic logo. So far, the owner won’t even consider it. I think he could lose lots of fan support from longtime fans like me, and even hockey fans across Canada as well. Like I said, business is business.
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 08:18 AM
Here is just a little food for thought.
No where in Germany are there statues to Hitler, schools named after him, stores with Nazi themes, theme parks called the Nazi experience.
The confederacy was made up of traitors to the American government who wanted to keep people enslaved.
I cannot imagine why any human being thinks that is a great thing to memorialize.
The insensitivity to our brothers and sisters whose skin color is darker than ours is disgusting.
Read history and be ashamed of what the south did.
:agree: ...completely.
If nothing else though, the continued threads denigrating blacks and the tone deafness to what racism/bigotry/prejudice is and does and those who support it...is very illuminating.
Nothing like folks speaking up and removing all doubt...as to what they are and how they feel. :thumbup:
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 08:23 AM
One thing is for sure...if the management of Winn-Dixie didn’t think their continued use of the name wouldn’t have negative effects on their business, they wouldn’t be considering the change.
YOU may not like it, but business is business.
:thumbup:
So many people seem to forget, that businesses are the only ones who have the right...to name themselves.
People always have the "right"...to vote with their wallets. :shrug:
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Rich42
06-27-2020, 08:26 AM
This is all so ridiculous and such a shame. The black community has set back their cause 50 years!
Luisa
06-27-2020, 08:36 AM
Bashing the South makes me sick. The South and names like Dixie have a certain charm. We live in a sick society that takes that away from us. People like to tour the South for its charm, uniqueness, and history. Taking that away hurts businesses and Americans. We are being treated the way the Nazis treated the Jews: constant ridicule; taking away possessions, culture, religion, history, monuments, names; and called racial slurs like white supremacists on a daily basis. Businesses that support this racism make me want to vomit.
Luisa
06-27-2020, 08:43 AM
Plenty of Black people work and shop at Winn Dixie and have for a hundred years, so changing the name is racist bull sh—.
Luisa
06-27-2020, 08:46 AM
Take a dose of your own racism and bigotry.
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 08:53 AM
This is all so ridiculous and such a shame. The black community has set back their cause 50 years!
Do tell, what do you think is..."their cause?"
:popcorn:
fdpaq0580
06-27-2020, 08:54 AM
Please explain “there is much left to do” Such as what exactly?
Me thinks thou lacks imagination, vision, empathy or the ability to even begin to try to comprehend. I could write volumes of minutiae detailing what I think needs to be done and how to implement it. I am not the one to do that. I am only one person, one voice and one mind. But I have lived with, worked with and served with people of many different backgrounds, colors, faiths, so, although I don' t have and can't have all the answers, I can say that I have seen discrimination and reverse discrimination and witnessed the effects of unequal opportunity. I'm pretty sure you have too, but did you recognize it?
In my humble opinion, some things have changed for the better. Still, there exists bias based on race, religion, gender, culture. Again, I have seen it and felt it. Perhaps you never have.
The leaders of our country, elected, appointed, of various faiths that can understand the many problems in our nation need to sit down calmly and peacefully begin to address this issue of bias that, deep down, affects us all, whether we know it or not.
When you ask questions like, "such as what exactly", I ask myself if you really want an answer, or is that an attempt at a put down.
We all have opinions based on our teaching, at home, in church or synagogue, in school, the work place, etc. Everyone's opinion is valid based on their life experience. That said, we cannot actually walk in another's shoes, but we can at least try to imagine what it might be like before we just brush off other opinions.
Keep talking. Keep searching. Keep learning. Keep an open mind.
Stay safe. Stay healthy. Peace!
Luisa
06-27-2020, 09:03 AM
More needs to be said about Blacks taking members of other Black tribes as slaves in Africa and their participation in the slave trade. Is this true, has it been swept under the carpet?
Joe C.
06-27-2020, 09:29 AM
Wait till they get around to "White Christmas". :MOJE_whot: :MOJE_whot:
John_W
06-27-2020, 09:38 AM
I haven't heard of any plans to change the name of Dixie Hollins High School in St. Petersburg. It opened in '59 and was named after a person, the superintendent of schools at the time. They removed the confederate flag a few years ago from the football team's helmets, but they're still called the Rebels. I was suppose to go there after my parents moved in '66, but I had already attended the 10th grade at St. Petersburg High, so they let me finish there, although many of friends and neighbors were going there. It was kind of weird having friends at two high schools.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Front_of_Dixie_Hollins_High_School%2C_Nov_2019.jpg/1920px-Front_of_Dixie_Hollins_High_School%2C_Nov_2019.jpg
The girls basketball team doesn't have a problem with the name.
https://static.hudl.com/users/temp/3777098_32f9486017564eccb5eda1d45af0b51e.JPG
davem4616
06-27-2020, 09:41 AM
these mobs have totally lost their way and all those that are 'bending' to this craziness by renaming companies, or products are allowing themselves to be bullied. Renaming something, or taking down a statue isn't going to help a black family educate their kids, pay their mortgage, buy a decent car, put food on their table. But it will continue to polarize our country...and that is what this
is now about
I read that someone is calling for the destruction 'white' statues of Jesus...if that happens, these nut jobs will have completely gone off the rail... pull down just one religious statue and those of us that have been standing on the sidelines with our mouths open in total disbelief will no longer remain on the sidelines
this needs to stop now
KarenD
06-27-2020, 09:44 AM
I'm done with the Dixie Chicks, Lady Antebellum, Aunt Jemima, Uncle Bens rice, Eskimo pies, etc..........
I will not support this insanity.
fdpaq0580
06-27-2020, 09:45 AM
If you research BLM the organization does little for the black community. Too much fake news spreading hate and racial tension. There are issues with many forms of racism and prejudice in our nation. Slavery was world wide not just here in the United States. No one today had anything to do with slavery or the indentured servants from Europe. Time to move forward and stop race baiting and fake news to upset the masses! A name is just that a name, history is history, & we are whom we chose to be. I was raised as an army brat & served in the Navy, I have learned much about different cultures. Cultural diversity is a wonderful thing, to learn about others beliefs, customs, & heritage! Wake up folks this isn’t about racism it is about divide and conquer!
Really good post!
Jolson
06-27-2020, 09:56 AM
Guess plantation and master will be next
I’ve heard they are considering changing ‘The Masters’ golf tournament in Augusta GA. It’s supposed to be about being a ‘master’ at golf and NOTHING more. But in this world now, people will find issues with just about anything
camaguey48
06-27-2020, 09:56 AM
It’s happening now. Totalitarianism is knocking on the door.
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 09:59 AM
these mobs have totally lost their way and all those that are 'bending' to this craziness by renaming companies, or products are allowing themselves to be bullied. Renaming something, or taking down a statue isn't going to help a black family educate their kids, pay their mortgage, buy a decent car, put food on their table. But it will continue to polarize our country...and that is what this
is now about
I read that someone is calling for the destruction 'white' statues of Jesus...if that happens, these nut jobs will have completely gone off the rail... pull down just one religious statue and those of us that have been standing on the sidelines with our mouths open in total disbelief will no longer remain on the sidelines
this needs to stop now
Jesus wasn't white.
The big question being, why are so many white folks with strong religious beliefs "standing on the sidelines"...in the first place? :ohdear:
E Cascade
06-27-2020, 10:29 AM
I'm sick of every group you can imagine claiming they have special rights. In the Bill of Rights we have the right to pursue happiness, .....not have it. I'm tired of hearing whining from the L's, the G's, B's, T's, and now the Q's, under-privileged, blacks, whites, yellows, reds, house bounded, ...... whatevers. Just make the most of what you've got and do your best to be a better person. If you don't like what you've got, who you are, where you are, then change and be glad you can. Everyone is part of some minority group with its own individual problems. There is a great statement from the deceased Robert Schuller, "Turn your stumbling blocks into stepping stones." Try it. It works. ......and have a great day!
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 12:03 PM
I'm sick of every group you can imagine claiming they have special rights. In the Bill of Rights we have the right to pursue happiness, .....not have it. I'm tired of hearing whining from the L's, the G's, B's, T's, and now the Q's, under-privileged, blacks, whites, yellows, reds, house bounded, ...... whatevers. Just make the most of what you've got and do your best to be a better person. If you don't like what you've got, who you are, where you are, then change and be glad you can. Everyone is part of some minority group with its own individual problems. There is a great statement from the deceased Robert Schuller, "Turn your stumbling blocks into stepping stones." Try it. It works. ......and have a great day!
Lest we forget, blacks were NOT included in the COTUS/BOR or in the statement of... "We, the people." :oops:
Which is why their "pursuit", against those who prefer they not succeed...continues. :ohdear:
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jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 12:04 PM
Dear Guest,
First, I do understand your sarcasm.
Second, I do understand that some individuals could find "Dixie" offensive.
Third, taking both first and second responses into consideration, I do still believe that, in some cases, the removal of certain words because someone finds them offensive could eventually, if taken to excess, limit discourse that is necessary.
I have known girls/women who were named "Dixie". Think of how greatly demanding they change their names, names given by loving parents, might offend them, their family's and friends. How does this add positively to the much needed conversation. And, this is only one of the many examples that could be shown.
As for the "250 years of oppression", there is no denying that injustice is a sad stain on the fabric of our nation's history. It has left a scar on us all. But it is time to look up from that scar and focus on the future and acknowledge the positive advancements since those times and look forward to a better and brighter future.
Living with hate, dwelling on the past and continually picking at the scar of past injustices will only reopen old wounds and aggravate all sides.
Are things not better today than in those old days? Have things not changed? I think so, but I also believe there is much left to do.
So, do you want to work together to improve things for all? Or do you want to continue living with anger because you can't let go othe ugly past and squabble over details like the name "Dixie"?
I choose a peaceful future together.
Good post. Ending paragraph was great. Words to live by!
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 12:07 PM
Oh no, please not Dixie Cups. What will I tell my husband. Honey, would you like me to get you more Dixie Cups. Oh wait, I mean that no name cup with vanilla and chocolate, oh wait, not chocolate. The cup with the vanilla and darker vanilla ice cream next to it. Oh wait, darker is not politically correct either. Honey, I think you better switch to creamsicles!
Good humor. Not offensive.
Byte1
06-27-2020, 12:14 PM
I remember a restaurant that was called Sambo's that was forced to change it's name. The name was derived from the parts of the names of the two partners, Samuel and Bo-(something). It had nothing to do with any race or ethnicity, but it was forced to change because of some folks being offended by the name. Amazing how sensitive and weak some folks appear when it comes to perceptions. Or, maybe some just need an excuse to scratch the healing scab?
Byte1
06-27-2020, 12:28 PM
Here is just a little food for thought. No where in Germany are there statues to Hitler, schools named after him, stores with Nazi themes, theme parks called the Nazi experience. The confederacy was made up of traitors to the American government who wanted to keep people enslaved. I cannot imagine why any human being thinks that is a great thing to memorialize. The insensitivity to our brothers and sisters whose skin color is darker than ours is disgusting. Read history and be ashamed of what the south did.
This ain't Germany. This is America and we do things differently. Germany LOST the war and we won. We dictate the rules. Offensive? Not my problem.
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 12:40 PM
The “cancel culture” is targeting the South, it’s history and people. Folks of the South are some of the most patriotic and God loving people in the Country. The cancel culture is set on division of Americans and wiping out our History. Enough is enough. God Bless America and her citizens!
Without judging the right or wrong of "cancel culture", I was thinking about Northern "indentured servants". The North is still proud of its OLD heritage. Why should NOT the South be? Both N and S had historic warts.
I suppose that most of that answer is because-the side that wins controls the history. Suppose that Native Americans won the North American continent, would we be speaking in Iroquois or Apache?
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 12:47 PM
If you research BLM the organization does little for the black community. Too much fake news spreading hate and racial tension. There are issues with many forms of racism and prejudice in our nation. Slavery was world wide not just here in the United States. No one today had anything to do with slavery or the indentured servants from Europe. Time to move forward and stop race baiting and fake news to upset the masses! A name is just that a name, history is history, & we are whom we chose to be. I was raised as an army brat & served in the Navy, I have learned much about different cultures. Cultural diversity is a wonderful thing, to learn about others beliefs, customs, & heritage! Wake up folks this isn’t about racism it is about divide and conquer!
Correct and thank you for your service. I would add to the divide and conquer thought that Russian hackers are hard at work doing that as we type.
MandoMan
06-27-2020, 12:51 PM
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Really? When will this stuff end? What would this solve? Who would pay for re-branding etc? Are you as tired of this as I am???
WINN-DIXIE SUPERMARKETS
CONSIDER CHANGING 95-YEAR-OLD NAME ...
After George Floyd's Death
One of the largest supermarket chains based in the Southeast is considering dropping its name after nearly 100 years ... a move triggered by the death of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement.
Sources at Winn-Dixie tell TMZ ... the supermarket chain -- billed as a southern heritage brand serving Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana and Mississippi -- is considering changing its name because, just like The Chicks, it deems the term "Dixie" as problematic due to ties to the old south and its way of thinking.
The Dixie Chicks Changed Their Name Because The Word 'Dixie' Is Problematic
They're now simply "The Chicks."
Access Denied (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article243803312.html)
TMZ report: Winn-Dixie considering new name | Jax Daily Record | Jacksonville Daily Record - Jacksonville, Florida (https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/tmz-report-winn-dixie-considering-new-name)
Winn-Dixie could just become Winn Supermarkets. But what about Dixie Cups. Could they just become Cups? Could Uncle Ben’s Converted Rice just be Converted Rice, or would that be an unconstitutional establishment of religion?
Eskimo Pies is changing it’s name to something else. Maybe First Nations Pies or Inuit Pies? I hear that the Village of Chitty Chatty gets its name from a swamp named after an Indian Chief. Is that acceptable? Perhaps it should change its name to the Village of Chatty Cathy! Wawa Markets gas station says the name comes from a Native American word for Canadian geese. I think it comes from a one year old’s word for water. Will Pontiac, named after an Indian Chief, change its name to, say, General Motors? Or was General Motors actually a Confederate General?
I hear the U.S. Mint is suing the rapper Fifty Cents over his appropriation of that name. His attorney says the U.S. Mint should rename the Fifty Cents coin Fifty Cents in his honor and put his likeness on it or face a countersuit.
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 12:55 PM
Bashing the South makes me sick. The South and names like Dixie have a certain charm. We live in a sick society that takes that away from us. People like to tour the South for its charm, uniqueness, and history. Taking that away hurts businesses and Americans. We are being treated the way the Nazis treated the Jews: constant ridicule; taking away possessions, culture, religion, history, monuments, names; and called racial slurs like white supremacists on a daily basis. Businesses that support this racism make me want to vomit.
South bashing IS a little rediculous from Villiage People who live in the South-last I looked.
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 12:58 PM
Me thinks thou lacks imagination, vision, empathy or the ability to even begin to try to comprehend. I could write volumes of minutiae detailing what I think needs to be done and how to implement it. I am not the one to do that. I am only one person, one voice and one mind. But I have lived with, worked with and served with people of many different backgrounds, colors, faiths, so, although I don' t have and can't have all the answers, I can say that I have seen discrimination and reverse discrimination and witnessed the effects of unequal opportunity. I'm pretty sure you have too, but did you recognize it?
In my humble opinion, some things have changed for the better. Still, there exists bias based on race, religion, gender, culture. Again, I have seen it and felt it. Perhaps you never have.
The leaders of our country, elected, appointed, of various faiths that can understand the many problems in our nation need to sit down calmly and peacefully begin to address this issue of bias that, deep down, affects us all, whether we know it or not.
When you ask questions like, "such as what exactly", I ask myself if you really want an answer, or is that an attempt at a put down.
We all have opinions based on our teaching, at home, in church or synagogue, in school, the work place, etc. Everyone's opinion is valid based on their life experience. That said, we cannot actually walk in another's shoes, but we can at least try to imagine what it might be like before we just brush off other opinions.
Keep talking. Keep searching. Keep learning. Keep an open mind.
Stay safe. Stay healthy. Peace!
Good last paragraph.
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 01:02 PM
these mobs have totally lost their way and all those that are 'bending' to this craziness by renaming companies, or products are allowing themselves to be bullied. Renaming something, or taking down a statue isn't going to help a black family educate their kids, pay their mortgage, buy a decent car, put food on their table. But it will continue to polarize our country...and that is what this
is now about
I read that someone is calling for the destruction 'white' statues of Jesus...if that happens, these nut jobs will have completely gone off the rail... pull down just one religious statue and those of us that have been standing on the sidelines with our mouths open in total disbelief will no longer remain on the sidelines
this needs to stop now
Well, violence in the name of Jesus would be so constructive. That probably needs further pondering.
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 01:09 PM
I'm sick of every group you can imagine claiming they have special rights. In the Bill of Rights we have the right to pursue happiness, .....not have it. I'm tired of hearing whining from the L's, the G's, B's, T's, and now the Q's, under-privileged, blacks, whites, yellows, reds, house bounded, ...... whatevers. Just make the most of what you've got and do your best to be a better person. If you don't like what you've got, who you are, where you are, then change and be glad you can. Everyone is part of some minority group with its own individual problems. There is a great statement from the deceased Robert Schuller, "Turn your stumbling blocks into stepping stones." Try it. It works. ......and have a great day!
A great locker room halftime speech!
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 01:11 PM
Lest we forget, blacks were NOT included in the COTUS/BOR or in the statement of... "We, the people." :oops:
Which is why their "pursuit", against those who prefer they not succeed...continues. :ohdear:
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That's thought-provoking. Kudos.
jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 01:23 PM
This ain't Germany. This is America and we do things differently. Germany LOST the war and we won. We dictate the rules. Offensive? Not my problem.
Jingoism Is A PROBLEM. A universal problem.
kathy1516
06-27-2020, 02:43 PM
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Really? When will this stuff end? What would this solve? Who would pay for re-branding etc? Are you as tired of this as I am???
WINN-DIXIE SUPERMARKETS
CONSIDER CHANGING 95-YEAR-OLD NAME ...
After George Floyd's Death
One of the largest supermarket chains based in the Southeast is considering dropping its name after nearly 100 years ... a move triggered by the death of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement.
Sources at Winn-Dixie tell TMZ ... the supermarket chain -- billed as a southern heritage brand serving Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana and Mississippi -- is considering changing its name because, just like The Chicks, it deems the term "Dixie" as problematic due to ties to the old south and its way of thinking.
The Dixie Chicks Changed Their Name Because The Word 'Dixie' Is Problematic
They're now simply "The Chicks."
Access Denied (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article243803312.html)
TMZ report: Winn-Dixie considering new name | Jax Daily Record | Jacksonville Daily Record - Jacksonville, Florida (https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/tmz-report-winn-dixie-considering-new-name)
Yeah. Totally agree with you. This is sickening already. What if your name is Dixie? Are you suppose to change it because it may offend some snowflake?
nn0wheremann
06-27-2020, 02:56 PM
Dixie originally referred to $10 bank notes issued by a New Orleans bank. The word Dix was on the back, that being the French word for “ten”. The bank was solvent and strong, and its notes were popular for trade. The area where these circulated, in Louisiana and the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, Alabama, and western Florida was referred to as Dixieland, and the term took on meanings derived from the Francophone culture and music of the region. In 1760, a border dispute among British colonies was settled by a line drawn by a surveyor named Dixon, as the Mason Dixon line. Later this demarcated the slave states to the south from the non-slave states to the north. Then came the Civil War, and the marching song “Dixie” popular among Confederate soldiers. In the backlash against post-war Reconstruction the Lost Cause myth evolved and cooped Dixie as referring to the Confederacy, not just the Francophone counties of coastal Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, once known as Dixieland.
alwann
06-27-2020, 03:08 PM
Dixie originally referred to $10 bank notes issued by a New Orleans bank. The word Dix was on the back, that being the French word for “ten”. The bank was solvent and strong, and its notes were popular for trade. The area where these circulated, in Louisiana and the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, Alabama, and western Florida was referred to as Dixieland, and the term took on meanings derived from the Francophone culture and music of the region. In 1760, a border dispute among British colonies was settled by a line drawn by a surveyor named Dixon, as the Mason Dixon line. Later this demarcated the slave states to the south from the non-slave states to the north. Then came the Civil War, and the marching song “Dixie” popular among Confederate soldiers. In the backlash against post-war Reconstruction the Lost Cause myth evolved and cooped Dixie as referring to the Confederacy, not just the Francophone counties of coastal Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, once known as Dixieland.
And then, of course, we have the Mason-Dixon line, which surveyors Mason and Dixon drew to settle border disputes among Pa., Md. and Va. Everything south of Md. became shorthanded as Dixie. This naming nonsense reminds me of the old joke about Melvin Lipschitz. He was told his name was bad and he must change it. He did. To Herman. Point being, what differences does it make?
Stu from NYC
06-27-2020, 03:24 PM
And then, of course, we have the Mason-Dixon line, which surveyors Mason and Dixon drew to settle border disputes among Pa., Md. and Va. Everything south of Md. became shorthanded as Dixie. This naming nonsense reminds me of the old joke about Melvin Lipschitz. He was told his name was bad and he must change it. He did. To Herman. Point being, what differences does it make?
Can we change Dixon's name to Smith in the history books?
Byte1
06-27-2020, 03:48 PM
Looks like this country is teaching kids that all they have to do is have a tantrum in order to get what they want.
FYI:
"Anthony Johnson was a black Angolan known for achieving wealth in the early 17th-century Colony of Virginia. He was one of the first African American property owners and had his right to legally own a slave recognized by the Virginia courts."
Some believe that Johnson was the FIRST legal slave owner in America, and Snopes (if you can believe them) says that is "possibly true."
Time for some folks to take responsibility for themselves and quit worrying about what the dead did in the past. Erasing history is not going to change the dirty facts. America is still the best in the world, so we need to accept our past and be proud of what we have accomplished and are still working on for improvement. Looking at other countries as examples is looking backward, not forward. Americans improve the world, not copy it.
Barborv
06-27-2020, 04:51 PM
But its ok when blacks call each other the N word. How about all those rap songs that have that word in it.
I'm sorry, but we have come a long way from 250 years ago. Even the 1960's . Not all is perfect, but there are many well educated black people who took advantage of what this country is offering. Doctors, lawyers entertainers, entrepreneurs, politicians, etc. Unfortunately for many, it's a vicious cycle that they just can't come out of. I'm sure for most people, it's not the color of ones skin, but the way a person is in society. Color of ones skin should never define who that person is. ALL LIVES MATTER!!!
coffeebean
06-27-2020, 05:27 PM
Oh no, now no Dixie cups or creamsicles. What next. This is just becoming a joke. How can you take any of this seriously with all this nonsense going on. Removing all history, good or bad, isn’t the answer.
This is the "Cancel Culture" movement. Totally ludicrous!
coffeebean
06-27-2020, 05:27 PM
I heard some RE sales outfit is no longer going to refer to master bedrooms and master bathrooms as such, taking "master" out of their inventory of descriptors.
This is a joke, right?
coffeebean
06-27-2020, 05:36 PM
I didn't look up the meaning of Dixie so I'm just going by my memory of an old song. I think the term "Dixie" refers to Confederate land or states.
"Wish I Was in Dixie"......Elvis' version
YouTube (https://youtu.be/vWVgLLnGaWs)
coffeebean
06-27-2020, 05:52 PM
What are we going to call white bread???
I'd call it white bread because, uh, it's white!
Stu from NYC
06-27-2020, 06:58 PM
This is a joke, right?
This is all a joke just not very funny
Velvet
06-27-2020, 07:31 PM
Cancel culture reminds me:
There was an effort to cancel the animal cartoon character in the children’s show “Paw Patrol”. The character is Chase who is a fictional German Shepherd pup depicted as a young police officer who helps people. Why cancel Chase? Because he depicts police in too positive a light.
tophcfa
06-27-2020, 08:40 PM
Why, because wack jobs say it is! Go figure?
kathy1516
06-27-2020, 08:48 PM
I'd call it white bread because, uh, it's white!
Caucasian bread?
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 10:02 PM
But its ok when blacks call each other the N word. How about all those rap songs that have that word in it.
I'm sorry, but we have come a long way from 250 years ago. Even the 1960's . Not all is perfect, but there are many well educated black people who took advantage of what this country is offering. Doctors, lawyers entertainers, entrepreneurs, politicians, etc. Unfortunately for many, it's a vicious cycle that they just can't come out of. I'm sure for most people, it's not the color of ones skin, but the way a person is in society. Color of ones skin should never define who that person is. ALL LIVES MATTER!!!
:ho:
anothersteve
06-27-2020, 10:06 PM
:ho:
Again?
Steve
ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 11:07 PM
I'd call it white bread because, uh, it's white!
Caucasian bread?
False flag/FAKE news.
No one is trying to change the name...of actual colors.:oops:
It's ONLY when something is meant to "denigrate, demean, negatively stereotype or represents an abhorrent past," when the recipients and victims of that denigration, negative stereotyping and/or disgusting past...are pointing it out and asking that it stop.
I just have to shake my head in wonderment/disgust and ask WHY is there so much rage, vitriol & umbrage of things, that at their core...should be agreed with by decent people?
Most know why that is and are just fine with it and many others, simply refuse to acknowledge...and/or have no interest in simple decency. :ohdear:
anothersteve
06-27-2020, 11:39 PM
False flag/FAKE news.
No one is trying to change the name...of actual colors.:oops:
It's ONLY when something is meant to "denigrate, demean, negatively stereotype or represents an abhorrent past," when the recipients and victims of that denigration, negative stereotyping and/or disgusting past...are pointing it out and asking that it stop.
I just have to shake my head in wonderment/disgust and ask WHY is there so much rage, vitriol & umbrage of things, that at their core...should be agreed with by decent people?
Most know why that is and are just fine with it and many others, simply refuse to acknowledge...and/or have no interest in simple decency. :ohdear:
Good night. Like the last line in that racist novel Gone With The Wind...
"After all...tomorrow is another day"
Steve
Bay Kid
06-28-2020, 06:51 AM
Anybody need a pacifier? Everything barely white bothers them.
DeanFL
06-28-2020, 07:19 AM
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Personally, I'm so truly afraid that in the course of this summer yet another major "incident" will occur. Heaven knows some protesters are continually instigating action across the country and testing LEO, and Law Enforcement is on edge and strained.
Hot weather, unemployment, COVID, desire to vent and loot = huge flareups.
All that will need is another spark, and watch out folks. 2020 could easily become the new '60's and race war.
Unbelievably sad and concerning that a majority of politicians and community leaders are doing little to help issues we are facing - but fan the flames. With so little said by the Media about the ongoing crime, violence, and B on B killings in minority neighborhoods in our cities.
Reminds me of the recent brush fires across Australia. It only takes a few flying embers to start huge engulfing fires.
Glad we have our Villages dome, but....
Oh - BTW, remember THIS from only 6 months ago????>>>
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DeanFL
06-29-2020, 06:34 AM
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False flag/FAKE news.
No one is trying to change the name...of actual colors.:oops:
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I recall when I was young, Crayloa had a crayon named "FLESH". (Of course), it was a "caucasion" color. Even back then in my youth, I thought... hmmm, that's odd.
I had to goggle to ensure my "today memory" on that was clear. yep>
Is there a flesh colored crayon?
The Crayola Crayon color name flesh was changed to peach in 1962. Although flesh was included in the original box of 64 Crayola Crayons, we felt it would be insensitive to include it in the commemorative box.
THAT color name was SO WRONG, and Crayola changed it. Fast forward to 2020, and names, statues, etc etc that are a huge stretch to think they may be "racist"... are??? So IMO - what WAS the absolute CORRECT thing to do, NOW is WHAT???? and discredits the ones that want to right (what they may feel are) wrong.
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