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Number 10 GI
06-26-2020, 06:09 PM
Rich athletes taking a knee claiming racist treatment of blacks. How many of these multi millionaire athletes have used some of their money to back a black entrepreneur to establish a business in a black area? A business that would provide jobs in these areas for the people living there. Besides Oprah Winfrey how many other rich blacks are helping out fellow blacks with their riches? If there are any why isn't the media championing these individuals?

I used to live near Ft. Campbell, KY. As with any area around a military base there are foreign born spouses that married a military person. There is a large group of Koreans in that area and they help each other, a very tight group. If one of them wants to borrow money they do not go to a bank, there are people in the group that will lend the money to them. They help each other when starting a business by patronizing that business or working for the new business owner. When one gets sick someone steps in and helps them out where ever necessary.

Instead of taking a knee put your money where your mouth is and do something that will really help fellow blacks. Just like the Hollywood types that emcee a charity fund raising event. I remember one was asked how much they donated and the response was they were donating their time to emcee the show. Can't part with that money, it's mine.

ColdNoMore
06-26-2020, 06:34 PM
Just A Partial List (click here) (http://www.goldengroomingco.com/blogs/news/10-black-men-that-give-back-to-the-community)


The W.K. Kellogg Foundation released a study in 2012 showing that African-Americans give a larger share of their income to charities than any other group.

This A-List of celebrities, athletes, and superstars have not only entertained us in their various professions, but they also went out of their way to empower and give back to their communities:

Number 10 GI
06-26-2020, 06:46 PM
Just A Partial List (click here) (http://www.goldengroomingco.com/blogs/news/10-black-men-that-give-back-to-the-community)

And not a one of them assisting black entrepreneurs in starting or expanding a business that will go much farther in assisting poor blacks to succeed. People need jobs, not charity that doesn't create any jobs.

Number 10 GI
06-26-2020, 06:54 PM
I'd like to add to my earlier statement. A job makes a person feel good about themselves. Charity handouts insults a person who wants go get ahead on their own. We know you can't do it on your own so take this pittance and thank us. When people feel good about their accomplishments they will take pride in their neighborhood and encourage their family to improve themselves.

Northwoods
06-26-2020, 06:56 PM
I actually believe that there are many black athletes, black people in the entertainment industry (Oprah and Tyler Perry come to mind) and wealthy black businessmen that contribute a lot of money to poor communities. I know there are some great stories...

Number 10 GI
06-26-2020, 07:02 PM
I actually believe that there are many black athletes, black people in the entertainment industry (Oprah and Tyler Perry come to mind) and wealthy black businessmen that contribute a lot of money to poor communities. I know there are some great stories...

You are missing my point. Charities don't create jobs, they create dependence. Plus a donation to a charity is tax deductible, backing an aspiring business person puts your money at risk and no tax deduction.

manaboutown
06-26-2020, 07:10 PM
Well, he cannot help personally anymore but Kobe Bryant did a lot for charities he supported and was well liked by all. Honor Kobe Bryant's legacy through the charities he supported (https://www.cbs58.com/news/honor-kobe-bryants-legacy-through-the-charities-he-supported)

Kanye West does a lot. Kanye West: Charity Work & Causes - Look to the Stars (https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/kanye-west)

Northwoods
06-26-2020, 07:50 PM
You are missing my point. Charities don't create jobs, they create dependence. Plus a donation to a charity is tax deductible, backing an aspiring business person puts your money at risk and no tax deduction.

Here are a few black athletes that are trying to help underprivileged children achieve a better life:

Tiger Woods Foundation provides money for deserving but impoverished students who want to go to college. It awards dozens of grants to improve under-privileged children’s health. Millions of young people have benefitted from his generosity.
The foundation has doled out over $30 million in grants, scholarships and internships. It also provides specialized education on such courses as graphic design, marine biology, and aerospace engineering so that these students have a meaningful career upon graduation.

Derek Jeter launched the Turn 2 Foundation. Its goal is to “create and support signature programs and activities that motivate young people to turn away from drugs and alcohol and ‘TURN 2’ healthy lifestyles”. Over the last 20 years, the foundation has donated approximately $1 million annually to its cause.

The Lebron James Family Foundation gave $2.5 million and 1,000 new computers to the Boys and Girls Club of America, and James himself gave $2.5 million to the Smithsonian National Museum of African-American History and Culture. His foundation has raised $40 million for the After-School All-Stars and his I Promise program provides mentors, supplies, support and programs for 1,400 Akron students — much of which comes from James’ own donations.

Marvic 1
06-26-2020, 08:35 PM
Charity is nothing but a handout to people that are receiving other handouts while the contributor is getting part of their money right back!

John41
06-26-2020, 08:38 PM
lower income blacks and whites give a higher percentage of their discretionary income than the middle class or rich and to charities focused on social services. The rich give a lower percentage and mainly to charities such as the arts and universities although to social services also. However their dollar amount from the rich is 70 percent of total charitable giving. The middle class gives the lowest percentage.

Stu from NYC
06-26-2020, 08:42 PM
One of the guys on shark tank (black fellow cannot think of his name right now) does help entrepreneurs succeed.

retiredguy123
06-26-2020, 08:43 PM
If you want to give your money away, good for you. But, in my opinion, the best thing the Government could do is to eliminate all tax deductions for charities. Most charities are created to gain prestige, or worse yet, to make money for the people who set them up. The IRS rules for charities are so loose that you can create a charity, raise millions of dollars, and spend pennies on the people who you claim to be helping. Most charities are scams, and the taxpayers end up being ripped off.

Marvic 1
06-26-2020, 08:50 PM
One of the guys on shark tank (black fellow cannot think of his name right now) does help entrepreneurs succeed.

Sure, at a whopping 30 - 45% of the NEW Company earnings, your man their is a "Loan Shark"! :yuck:

Northwoods
06-26-2020, 09:03 PM
Charity is nothing but a handout to people that are receiving other handouts while the contributor is getting part of their money right back!

I give people credit if they are trying to do something to help the underprivileged achieve a better life. I don't care if it's charity. I don't care if they get part of their money back. They're doing SOMETHING. They are trying to have a positive impact on underprivileged people.
In a previous post, I listed a number of black leaders who funded programs that provide scholarships and aim to get kids to reject drugs. I have no idea how successful any of these programs are. But at least there's an effort to try to affect change. They're trying to make an impact.
Give them credit for at least making an effort. You don't know how successful these programs have been...

Number 10 GI
06-26-2020, 09:13 PM
I give people credit if they are trying to do something to help the underprivileged achieve a better life. I don't care if it's charity. I don't care if they get part of their money back. They're doing SOMETHING. They are trying to have a positive impact on underprivileged people.
In a previous post, I listed a number of black leaders who funded programs that provide scholarships and aim to get kids to reject drugs. I have no idea how successful any of these programs are. But at least there's an effort to try to affect change. They're trying to make an impact.
Give them credit for at least making an effort. You don't know how successful these programs have been...

So doing something even if it accomplishes nothing is good? As I keep saying, create jobs for people, that requires more effort than just writing a check to a charity to make you feel good because you did "something".

Northwoods
06-26-2020, 09:53 PM
So doing something even if it accomplishes nothing is good? As I keep saying, create jobs for people, that requires more effort than just writing a check to a charity to make you feel good because you did "something".

You don't know if these initiatives did "nothing." In fact, it's possible that some of these programs helped underprivileged children achieve better lives.
I understand that creating jobs and helping create successful businesses is the right thing to do.
But you can't dismiss the effort focused on lifting underprivileged children out of poverty and making them successful, contributing members of society. If there is some success... it's a good thing.

ColdNoMore
06-26-2020, 10:00 PM
You don't know if these initiatives did "nothing." In fact, it's possible that some of these programs helped underprivileged children achieve better lives.

I understand that creating jobs and helping create successful businesses is the right thing to do.

But you can't dismiss the effort focused on lifting underprivileged children out of poverty and making them successful, contributing members of society. If there is some success... it's a good thing.

Excellent points. :thumbup:



Honey. :D

Girlcopper
06-27-2020, 05:20 AM
I actually believe that there are many black athletes, black people in the entertainment industry (Oprah and Tyler Perry come to mind) and wealthy black businessmen that contribute a lot of money to poor communities. I know there are some great stories...
My parents had nothing when they got married. (We are white not black). My dad worked numerous jobs, some of them back breaking work, and supported his family without charity. He managed to also attend a local community college and take courses to get the skills he needed. It was an insult to him if someone tried to offer him money or free things. He was a proud hard working man and he and my mom are reaping the rewards of all his hard work in their later years now. My point? Get out, get a job. Theres plenty out there if youre not too good to get your hands dirty. Charity is meant for the sick n elderly. Not able bodied people who are too lazy and think the world owes them a living.

Miguel 1952
06-27-2020, 05:27 AM
My parents had nothing when they got married. (We are white not black). My dad worked numerous jobs, some of them back breaking work, and supported his family without charity. He managed to also attend a local community college and take courses to get the skills he needed. It was an insult to him if someone tried to offer him money or free things. He was a proud hard working man and he and my mom are reaping the rewards of all his hard work in their later years now. My point? Get out, get a job. Theres plenty out there if youre not too good to get your hands dirty. Charity is meant for the sick n elderly. Not able bodied people who are too lazy and think the world owes them a living.

Very well said! Get out, get a job, save your money!

gregcharlesnelson@gmail
06-27-2020, 05:36 AM
How many blacks in TV? I see a couple in my water classes, but not many...I'm from North Dakota

LoisR
06-27-2020, 05:46 AM
Did your dad "fit in" with the neighbors or did his appearance or name make him stand apart?
Last time I attended, and later taught at a community college, the tuition was significantly less than at a four year college, mainly due to local and state financial support. Many someones helped pay his tuition. Did you forget that? Did he also "fit in" where he worked? Just imagine if he didn't.
Try walking a mile is someone else's shoes. Funny how old proverbs still work. Sad how old biases are still with us.

dunmyer
06-27-2020, 05:48 AM
You could add Magic Johnson to the list. Oprah Winfrey. I think the list is rather large. The main stream. Media just shows the decadent thats why you don’t hear too much about all the good people do.


Just A Partial List (click here) (http://www.goldengroomingco.com/blogs/news/10-black-men-that-give-back-to-the-community)

unclerandy
06-27-2020, 06:04 AM
When we ask "What can I do?", then problems get solved.

La lamy
06-27-2020, 06:14 AM
One of the guys on shark tank (black fellow cannot think of his name right now) does help entrepreneurs succeed.


Daymond Garfield John

Kms1506
06-27-2020, 06:21 AM
How do you know how people donate their money. Why do you point out black people. How about all people.

J1ceasar
06-27-2020, 06:30 AM
There are plenty of Charities that are involved in job training and education so get off your high horse please Goodwill is one of them name atop one

J1ceasar
06-27-2020, 06:31 AM
Also there was a very large initiative her education in Newark New Jersey with a double the money spent for the school system $28,000 child. But honestly I haven't seen the results and I doubt it's really helped

Number 10 GI
06-27-2020, 06:33 AM
Obviously you lack even a modicum of intelligence to understand what I said. Yes I watch Fox, and NBC, CBS, ABC, and read articles from all the other online news sources. Do you watch anything except CNN and MSN? Apparently not.

J1ceasar
06-27-2020, 06:36 AM
For the last 50 years we have spent about 50 billion dollars on welfare . for the last 50 years poverty has not moved one percentage point. I think it's time to rethink all the money spends. My suggestion is if you want to get married or have a family or give birth you have to have 12 months of Education about raising children. Secondly we spend roughly a quarter million dollars per child for education and yet most kids in poor neighborhoods don't graduate I think we need a law that says simply if you don't get at least a b average in school and graduate high school you're not entitled to any welfare or food stamps the rest of your life. Leslie I think the parents of little children must have at least a high school education before giving birth you need to have pregnancy control in the water no matter what religious organizations say this is cool tough love and obviously I'm being extremely ridiculous in my opinions just like Gulliver's Travels was. But the reality is you can't help those that don't want to help themselves you have 50 years of dependency on the government and it has to stop. In the US we have something many countries still can't do pull free education 13 years of it. And then we have community colleges Witcher dirt cheap and you can get loans for if you don't pull yourself up nobody will do it for you

Strongel
06-27-2020, 06:37 AM
There is a line between judgment and discernment, one is much more harsh. Yet, there was a time when communities helped others in their communities much more than today. Churches and other groups raised money to helped those in need. It wasn’t perfect, some were left out but it was more direct, more personal and upfront than today. Now many just say to let “the government” look after them. The government (although us) is impersonal. We used to see need and felt the twinge of compassion and love to reach out and help, Now we see videos of hunger and need and think the money won’t reach them. It will get caught up in red tape, confiscated by the organization and only a pittance get through. Organizations have done much good, government has helped many. They have also distanced us. I’m trying not to judge who does what like blacks helping blacks in the first post but make sense. I do have an opinion. I don’t want to become complacent and ignore need, I also do not want big government handing out money Willy Nilly creating dependence. Once dependent they can just threaten to withhold the check if you don’t obey. In short, we need both, small government for a safety net only and tons of personal compassion for everyone.

diva1
06-27-2020, 06:48 AM
Here's a link for you all to take a read: Billionaire Robert Smith follows through on pledge to pay off Morehouse students' loan debt (https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/09/23/billionaire-robert-smith-follows-through-pledge-pay-morehouse-students-loan-debt#:~:text=A%20Clean%20Loan%20Ledger%20for,owed% 20by%20students%20and%20parents).

coconutmama
06-27-2020, 06:49 AM
There are plenty of Charities that are involved in job training and education so get off your high horse please Goodwill is one of them name atop one

Agreed. They do a great job.

coconutmama
06-27-2020, 06:55 AM
You are missing my point. Charities don't create jobs, they create dependence. Plus a donation to a charity is tax deductible, backing an aspiring business person puts your money at risk and no tax deduction.

Amazing the excuses not to give. Hope you folks volunteer your time, at least, instead. Florida is a poor state overall. Lots of opportunity to help, no matter the color of the recipients skin.

parchiba49
06-27-2020, 06:56 AM
My parents had nothing when they got married. (We are white not black). My dad worked numerous jobs, some of... My point? Get out, get a job. Theres plenty out there if youre not too good to get your hands dirty. Charity is meant for the sick n elderly. Not able bodied people who are too lazy and think the world owes them a living.
Guess one of your best friends is black also!
My dad was a truck driver, local only as they would not hire him for over-the road. "Get out, get a job. There's plenty out there if you're not too lazy...". Something I regularly do, as I drive, is notice how few, if any, blacks you see on road crews. If you do see them, they are the ones holding the flag for stop or slow. Is that because they are too lazy, or the company won't train them for the manual labor jobs higher up on the pay scale? Not easy to work your way up when there are no rungs on the ladder and thorns lining the poles! Some of you could use a course on thinking outside the box to learn how to walk in other people's shoes and get outside of your own narrow head.

mydavid
06-27-2020, 07:03 AM
I give people credit if they are trying to do something to help the underprivileged achieve a better life. I don't care if it's charity. I don't care if they get part of their money back. They're doing SOMETHING. They are trying to have a positive impact on underprivileged people.
In a previous post, I listed a number of black leaders who funded programs that provide scholarships and aim to get kids to reject drugs. I have no idea how successful any of these programs are. But at least there's an effort to try to affect change. They're trying to make an impact.
Give them credit for at least making an effort. You don't know how successful these programs have been...Well all know one person who don't care about poor whites or blacks, his foundation only was used to serve himself.

Adagio43
06-27-2020, 07:14 AM
Rich athletes taking a knee claiming racist treatment of blacks. How many of these multi millionaire athletes have used some of their money to back a black entrepreneur to establish a business in a black area? A business that would provide jobs in these areas for the people living there. Besides Oprah Winfrey how many other rich blacks are helping out fellow blacks with their riches? If there are any why isn't the media championing these individuals?

I used to live near Ft. Campbell, KY. As with any area around a military base there are foreign born spouses that married a military person. There is a large group of Koreans in that area and they help each other, a very tight group. If one of them wants to borrow money they do not go to a bank, there are people in the group that will lend the money to them. They help each other when starting a business by patronizing that business or working for the new business owner. When one gets sick someone steps in and helps them out where ever necessary.

Instead of taking a knee put your money where your mouth is and do something that will really help fellow blacks. Just like the Hollywood types that emcee a charity fund raising event. I remember one was asked how much they donated and the response was they were donating their time to emcee the show. Can't part with that money, it's mine.
That you single out rich African Americans for criticism rather than wealthy people in general pretty much says it all.

edicito
06-27-2020, 07:19 AM
An example of how many people don’t get informed through research, assume facts, unintentionally talk about division (we are all Americans!)
This is getting too political and many Individuals are surfacing showing their true colors!
We are a family!!!!!! And instead of attacking people “ worry about what you can contribute to the betterment of OUR country” and get down on your knees to thank God for what you have and wisdom for what you can do!!
God bless us all!

Michael Charles
06-27-2020, 07:20 AM
That you single out rich African Americans for criticism rather than wealthy people in general pretty much says it all.

Exactly! It's quite shameful.

Manhoopty
06-27-2020, 07:25 AM
Eliminate 501C3 exemptions for ALL Churches. Then the TRUE church of Jesus Christ will emerge....;)

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 07:28 AM
Guess one of your best friends is black also!
My dad was a truck driver, local only as they would not hire him for over-the road. "Get out, get a job. There's plenty out there if you're not too lazy...". Something I regularly do, as I drive, is notice how few, if any, blacks you see on road crews. If you do see them, they are the ones holding the flag for stop or slow. Is that because they are too lazy, or the company won't train them for the manual labor jobs higher up on the pay scale? Not easy to work your way up when there are no rungs on the ladder and thorns lining the poles!

Some of you could use a course on thinking outside the box to learn how to walk in other people's shoes and get outside of your own narrow head.

:bigbow:

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 07:30 AM
That you single out rich African Americans for criticism rather than wealthy people in general pretty much says it all.

YEP, you nailed the reason for the thread. :ohdear:

72lions
06-27-2020, 07:32 AM
You are missing my point. Charities don't create jobs, they create dependence. Plus a donation to a charity is tax deductible, backing an aspiring business person puts your money at risk and no tax deduction.

Your OP never used the word charity. Why now?

Sounds like you just want to not be part of the solution, preferring to maintain segregation as your comments about Koreans in KY suggest.

It is not the responsibility of blacks to help blacks any more than gays helping gays or women helping women.

We all gave a global responsibility to ensure systemic prejudice is minimized. It starts with each if us acknowledging that we all are part of the problem when we allow others to act upon their racism.

Number 10 GI
06-27-2020, 07:33 AM
Amazing the excuses not to give. Hope you folks volunteer your time, at least, instead. Florida is a poor state overall. Lots of opportunity to help, no matter the color of the recipients skin.

I have donated to charities all my life, my wife donated time working in a church that provided a clothes closet and food pantry for needy people. We belonged to a social club that gave out scholarship money to deserving students. Pathetic attempt on your part.

Meboko
06-27-2020, 07:42 AM
One of the guys on shark tank (black fellow cannot think of his name right now) does help entrepreneurs succeed.

Damon Johns

Number 10 GI
06-27-2020, 07:44 AM
There are plenty of Charities that are involved in job training and education so get off your high horse please Goodwill is one of them name atop one

Yeah these charities are really improving things for black Americans.

Jayhawk
06-27-2020, 07:47 AM
How many blacks in TV? I see a couple in my water classes, but not many...I'm from North Dakota

Kind of like North Dakota, right?

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 07:48 AM
Your OP never used the word charity. Why now?

Sounds like you just want to not be part of the solution, preferring to maintain segregation as your comments about Koreans in KY suggest.

It is not the responsibility of blacks to help blacks any more than gays helping gays or women helping women.

We all gave a global responsibility to ensure systemic prejudice is minimized.

It starts with each if us acknowledging that we all are part of the problem when we allow others to act upon their racism.

Well stated! :thumbup:


That is the issue...in a nutshell! :boom:


.

Number 10 GI
06-27-2020, 07:55 AM
Guess one of your best friends is black also!
My dad was a truck driver, local only as they would not hire him for over-the road. "Get out, get a job. There's plenty out there if you're not too lazy...". Something I regularly do, as I drive, is notice how few, if any, blacks you see on road crews. If you do see them, they are the ones holding the flag for stop or slow. Is that because they are too lazy, or the company won't train them for the manual labor jobs higher up on the pay scale? Not easy to work your way up when there are no rungs on the ladder and thorns lining the poles! Some of you could use a course on thinking outside the box to learn how to walk in other people's shoes and get outside of your own narrow head.

If you would get outside the bubble you will see many black and women truck drivers on the interstate highways. I see all kinds of blacks working in construction here in TV. Go into any government office and you will see a greater percentage of black employees than they represent in the total population. I've seen a lot of white guys holding those stop and go signs. Your view is extremely narrow as you never see the successful blacks who overcame far more obstacles. But that ruins the narrative that blacks can't be successful doesn't it.

dewilson58
06-27-2020, 08:08 AM
Not sure if this is the same point as the OP.......but I find it interesting that famous, rich, influential black Hollywood folks are not vocal about racism lately or even in the last few years. ( I classify most Hollywood folks as liberal.....jus my opin)



Why aren't those people who might have the ears of others, the money to spend, the time to invest out fighting racism?? Posting a Instagram is worthless.



There have been may black people of influence posting videos blaming the protested issues on black people themselves. As an example, Morgan Freeman has not hide his opinion.




:shrug:

Number 10 GI
06-27-2020, 08:11 AM
How many blacks in TV? I see a couple in my water classes, but not many...I'm from North Dakota

I believe you will have to ask blacks outside the bubble why they don't want to live here. I've not seen any signs that warn blacks not to be here when the sun goes down. The only way we found out about TV was through friends that moved here and they found out the same as we did, from a friend living here. How does TV advertise living here by only targeting white people and blocking blacks.

rlcooper70
06-27-2020, 08:15 AM
No offense ... but it almost seems that you are placing blame on black america for the issues of today ... the issue is the dog whistle that half cannot hear ... one narrative (yours seemingly) starts in 1964 with attempts at racial justice .. the other narrative starts at 1620. Advocates of one narrative seem unable to hear the other narrative - dog whistle analogy.

Blacks give to charities. Okay. And blacks in the inner city are in deep trouble. We get it. And every time a black kid is brought before a judge and given probation ... does he become unemployable in white society?

We got problems people - and trying to simplify and place blame (as does this email) ... is it a responsible form of communication to pretend the "other" side is irrelevant? Conundrum huh?

Number 10 GI
06-27-2020, 08:32 AM
Your OP never used the word charity. Why now?

Sounds like you just want to not be part of the solution, preferring to maintain segregation as your comments about Koreans in KY suggest.

It is not the responsibility of blacks to help blacks any more than gays helping gays or women helping women.

We all gave a global responsibility to ensure systemic prejudice is minimized. It starts with each if us acknowledging that we all are part of the problem when we allow others to act upon their racism.

I don't know where you got the idea I suggest/support segregation, take a reading comprehension class. I stated that a group of people that face some discrimination help each other and are very successful doing so. I know it's too hard for some people to understand self-reliance. It's easier to mouth platitudes instead of actually doing something.

"We all gave a global responsibility to ensure systemic prejudiced is minimized." :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

aallbrand
06-27-2020, 08:35 AM
Villagers -run your posts by a neutral party, you may mean well but this kind of talk is racist , Unless you are a person of color or a minority you have no idea what its like to be discriminated against . Rich people of color people do as much for people of color as rich white people do for other white people.

Kneeling during the anthem is not disrespectful to America it is done to try to end young blacks being slaughtered by law enforcement .

In my opinion the national anthem has no place in sports to being with .

As a Jewish Villager I can tell you the villages are full of great people but also have lots of racist. I can not count the times I have had other villagers make anti Semitic remarks in conversation with me , not knowing. I was Jewish.

How are you trying to help the world ?

Dust Bunny
06-27-2020, 08:37 AM
Morgan Freeman has done a lot- Check him out

Haggar
06-27-2020, 08:39 AM
Under the tax law passes a few years back couples were given the choice of taking a deduction for itemized deductions or $24,00 which is higher. (Higher for 2019 and even higher for seniors.)

Most couples I do returns for do not come up to the $24,000 but continue to give to charity, whether their own church or temple, American Cancer Society or whatever charity they ordinarily give to. I believe strongly most people give to charity not because they get a tax deduction but because they believe in helping others.

Large corporations also give to charities (such as Covid relief) not because they get a tax deduction but because it's part of their corporate policy. Even though they get a tax deduction and save 40% of their contribution in taxes it's still costing them 60%.

Veiragirl
06-27-2020, 08:41 AM
Rich athletes taking a knee claiming racist treatment of blacks. How many of these multi millionaire athletes have used some of their money to back a black entrepreneur to establish a business in a black area? A business that would provide jobs in these areas for the people living there. Besides Oprah Winfrey how many other rich blacks are helping out fellow blacks with their riches? If there are any why isn't the media championing these individuals?

I used to live near Ft. Campbell, KY. As with any area around a military base there are foreign born spouses that married a military person. There is a large group of Koreans in that area and they help each other, a very tight group. If one of them wants to borrow money they do not go to a bank, there are people in the group that will lend the money to them. They help each other when starting a business by patronizing that business or working for the new business owner. When one gets sick someone steps in and helps them out where ever necessary.

Instead of taking a knee put your money where your mouth is and do something that will really help fellow blacks. Just like the Hollywood types that emcee a charity fund raising event. I remember one was asked how much they donated and the response was they were donating their time to emcee the show. Can't part with that money, it's mine.

How about Kanye West and all the Kardashians among MANY others .:bigbow:

dewilson58
06-27-2020, 08:44 AM
Morgan Freeman has done a lot- Check him out




Oh I have. His quote, making it a bigger issue than it needs to be......


Morgan Freeman on race...and his birthday - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOiQgleiRtU)

parchiba49
06-27-2020, 08:48 AM
If you would get outside the bubble you will see many black and women truck drivers on the interstate highways. I see all kinds of blacks working in construction here in TV. Go into any government office and you will see a greater percentage of black employees than they represent in the total population. I've seen a lot of white guys holding those stop and go signs. Your view is extremely narrow as you never see the successful blacks who overcame far more obstacles. But that ruins the narrative that blacks can't be successful doesn't it.

I was commenting primarily on the 'get a job...too lazy' post. I know we are out there though those government jobs are not the highest on the pay scale either but at least they are working with benefits. Ridiculous comment that you see whites holding the signs, I did not say only blacks held the position. Go back to my idea to get out of your own head. How many blacks do you see working in TV businesses? I believe I heard The Villages had one on their staff of sales agents. Okay, maybe I don't see those who are in the restaurant kitchens, though I do occasionally see them cleaning tables. Sales people in visible positions in stores? Maybe a token to prove diversity. Hmmmm, maybe shouldn't post this idea, because I've not hit all the manned gates in TV, but I've gone through many. Never saw a black face. But wait, the head of Public Safety is black, and a friend of mine works for them - way to go Villages.

I see successful blacks every day here in The Villages, as well as in all the surrounding areas. In The Villages we are about 3-5% of the population. We are teachers, doctors, nurses, attorneys, CEOs, Veterans, IT professionals, homemakers, Realtors, blue collar, entrepreneurs, etc. Who do they see when I go into some stores here? A black that they must pretend to not be following because I may steal a trinket. Walk a day in my shoes.

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 08:56 AM
Villagers -run your posts by a neutral party, you may mean well but this kind of talk is racist , Unless you are a person of color or a minority you have no idea what its like to be discriminated against . Rich people of color people do as much for people of color as rich white people do for other white people.

Kneeling during the anthem is not disrespectful to America it is done to try to end young blacks being slaughtered by law enforcement .

In my opinion the national anthem has no place in sports to being with .

As a Jewish Villager I can tell you the villages are full of great people but also have lots of racist. I can not count the times I have had other villagers make anti Semitic remarks in conversation with me , not knowing. I was Jewish.

How are you trying to help the world ?

Thanks for an excellent post. :thumbup:


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oldtimes
06-27-2020, 08:57 AM
Any good idea when taken to the extreme becomes a bad idea. This has gotten to the point that it is doing more harm than good.

newgirl
06-27-2020, 09:00 AM
All of them, read bio’s

newgirl
06-27-2020, 09:02 AM
Look at the marketing .. all white as snow

ColdNoMore
06-27-2020, 09:03 AM
Morgan Freeman has done a lot- Check him out

Morgan Freeman - Sharing Stories Of Racism (click here) (http://www.nme.com/news/film/morgan-freeman-share-peoples-experiences-racism-social-platforms-2682978)

Morgan Freeman to share people’s experiences of racism on his social platforms

"I'll dedicate my platforms to amplify your voice"

Morgan Freeman has announced plans to share his followers’ experiences with racism on his social media platforms.

The actor shared news of the project on his Instagram page yesterday (June 5), telling his fans to “continue the conversation”.

“Being a storyteller, I believe that is important to champion each other’s unique voices,” he said in the post. “For the next week, if you are willing to share the personal stories you’ve experienced with racism, I’ll dedicate my platforms to amplify your voice.

“The time has come. Remember we all have a part to play in this story of change.”


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dewilson58
06-27-2020, 09:04 AM
Any good idea when taken to the extreme becomes a bad idea. This has gotten to the point that it is doing more harm than good.


Bingo.

Villagerjjm
06-27-2020, 09:04 AM
Rich athletes taking a knee claiming racist treatment of blacks. How many of these multi millionaire athletes have used some of their money to back a black entrepreneur to establish a business in a black area? A business that would provide jobs in these areas for the people living there. Besides Oprah Winfrey how many other rich blacks are helping out fellow blacks with their riches? If there are any why isn't the media championing these individuals?

I used to live near Ft. Campbell, KY. As with any area around a military base there are foreign born spouses that married a military person. There is a large group of Koreans in that area and they help each other, a very tight group. If one of them wants to borrow money they do not go to a bank, there are people in the group that will lend the money to them. They help each other when starting a business by patronizing that business or working for the new business owner. When one gets sick someone steps in and helps them out where ever necessary.

Instead of taking a knee put your money where your mouth is and do something that will really help fellow blacks. Just like the Hollywood types that emcee a charity fund raising event. I remember one was asked how much they donated and the response was they were donating their time to emcee the show. Can't part with that money, it's mine.

I think that if the time was taken to do some real research on this topic that a satisfactory answer to the question posed (beyond the included snarky conversation included in the original post with the question) is obtainable as noted by another response.
Have a great day!

44Apple
06-27-2020, 09:28 AM
What are they doing? Probably the same thing rich white people are doing for the poor whites of the Appalachia strip and for the poor whites of Central Florida.

Luisa
06-27-2020, 09:36 AM
There were 9000 opportunity zones created a short time ago to help Black neighborhoods and businesses. The next thing we see is burning, looting , and violence. Gratitude and taking advantage of opportunity goes a long way toward equality.

kenoc7
06-27-2020, 09:46 AM
If you want to give your money away, good for you. But, in my opinion, the best thing the Government could do is to eliminate all tax deductions for charities. Most charities are created to gain prestige, or worse yet, to make money for the people who set them up. The IRS rules for charities are so loose that you can create a charity, raise millions of dollars, and spend pennies on the people who you claim to be helping. Most charities are scams, and the taxpayers end up being ripped off.
"Most charities are created to gain prestige, or worse yet, to make money for the people who set them up."

This may be true for a small number of charities but most are started/run by people with a genuine concern for the issues they focus on. Also, in response to the original question, many black athletes and entertainers have set up foundations that do great work.

E Cascade
06-27-2020, 09:57 AM
Unfortunately the law of nature goes by the survival of the fittest. It follows in every area of life from humans of every kind, to all animals, to plants, to environment, to those stuck at home due to covid-19, to........ One person can not survive for another. Each must do his/her share or sink into whatever is lesser than he/she could have had. It's just a simple fact of being on this planet. If you enable another's weakness you are actually stealing his/her chance to become stronger. When we row together we accomplish more, but we have to make the decision to get into the boat. ...........so now, what are each of us doing right now to make ourselves better at whatever we do, so the boat can move through the rough waters more easily?

rmd2
06-27-2020, 10:03 AM
Here are a few black athletes that are trying to help underprivileged children achieve a better life:

Tiger Woods Foundation provides money for deserving but impoverished students who want to go to college. It awards dozens of grants to improve under-privileged children’s health. Millions of young people have benefitted from his generosity.
The foundation has doled out over $30 million in grants, scholarships and internships. It also provides specialized education on such courses as graphic design, marine biology, and aerospace engineering so that these students have a meaningful career upon graduation.

Derek Jeter launched the Turn 2 Foundation. Its goal is to “create and support signature programs and activities that motivate young people to turn away from drugs and alcohol and ‘TURN 2’ healthy lifestyles”. Over the last 20 years, the foundation has donated approximately $1 million annually to its cause.

The Lebron James Family Foundation gave $2.5 million and 1,000 new computers to the Boys and Girls Club of America, and James himself gave $2.5 million to the Smithsonian National Museum of African-American History and Culture. His foundation has raised $40 million for the After-School All-Stars and his I Promise program provides mentors, supplies, support and programs for 1,400 Akron students — much of which comes from James’ own donations.

Almost all foundations use "other people's" money. They don't use their own. The lend out their name to collect money from other people.

rmd2
06-27-2020, 10:07 AM
There are plenty of Charities that are involved in job training and education so get off your high horse please Goodwill is one of them name atop one

Goodwill gets freely donated items and charges customers to buy them.

parchiba49
06-27-2020, 10:08 AM
If you would get outside the bubble you will see many black and women truck drivers on the interstate highways. I see all kinds of blacks working in construction here in TV. Go into any government office and you will see a greater percentage of black employees than they represent in the total population. I've seen a lot of white guys holding those stop and go signs. Your view is extremely narrow as you never see the successful blacks who overcame far more obstacles. But that ruins the narrative that blacks can't be successful doesn't it.

My original response was to your "Get a job...too lazy". I am very aware of other blacks in jobs. Not sure how many blacks you see working construction here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Weren't many when I built my first house in 2016. Government offices, yes, clerks in lower paying jobs, but great, at least they have jobs (not lazy) and benefits to boot - hooray! I won't remark on your 'white guys holding signs' as I did not say they didn't, just that the blacks were not on the higher paying scale. My view is narrow? Really? When was the last time you saw a Villages sales agent who was black? I believe I heard they finally hired one. Yay. How many do you see visible in the restaurants you visit. Oh, yep, maybe if you go peep in the kitchen, or wiping down the tables. And, I admit I haven't gone through all the Villages gates, but I've been through most (at least north of 44) and Hmmm, guess the black ones are always off duty when I come through. Wait, the head of Public Safety here is a black guy, and one of my friends also works with them. Wow, we must be getting up in the world of TV.
So, my narrative? Think about yours and walk a day in my shoes.

I know, first hand, about successful blacks. Here in The Villages we are around 2-4% of the population. We are nurses, doctors, attorneys, Veterans, IT specialists, construction workers, CEOs, entrepreneurs, homemakers, teachers, etc. But guess what, when we, successful types, go into some stores, we can pick out those employees who are trying not to let us know that they are following us, just in case we try and lift a trinket.

Michael Charles
06-27-2020, 10:33 AM
Goodwill gets freely donated items and charges customers to buy them.

They make a profit by selling donated items for certain.

The people making those donations get a donation slip for their taxes.

The people who sort through the donated items and the people putting those items on the shelves as well as the people running the registers are all getting paid.

I say kudos the the billionaire owner for giving people entry level jobs to get off of public assistance, giving opportunities to people with no other skills for whatever reasons and people with disabilities. Who cares how much profit he makes. At least he's doing some good for others with your unwanted items. Go ahead and say what you like now.

jebartle
06-27-2020, 10:33 AM
Rich athletes taking a knee claiming racist treatment of blacks. How many of these multi millionaire athletes have used some of their money to back a black entrepreneur to establish a business in a black area? A business that would provide jobs in these areas for the people living there. Besides Oprah Winfrey how many other rich blacks are helping out fellow blacks with their riches? If there are any why isn't the media championing these individuals?

I used to live near Ft. Campbell, KY. As with any area around a military base there are foreign born spouses that married a military person. There is a large group of Koreans in that area and they help each other, a very tight group. If one of them wants to borrow money they do not go to a bank, there are people in the group that will lend the money to them. They help each other when starting a business by patronizing that business or working for the new business owner. When one gets sick someone steps in and helps them out where ever necessary.

Instead of taking a knee put your money where your mouth is and do something that will really help fellow blacks. Just like the Hollywood types that emcee a charity fund raising event. I remember one was asked how much they donated and the response was they were donating their time to emcee the show. Can't part with that money, it's mine.

You couldn't buy the tv coverage Kapernick (sp) got from kneeling during anthem. Awareness of the injustice blacks have been dealt is now in the forefront.

Dreah
06-27-2020, 10:40 AM
It doesn't cost anything to be kind.

Shamp
06-27-2020, 10:48 AM
I had to stop reading after the first sentence. CLAIMING? Do you see the news? Do you see the youth being killed over BS? The other day 3 officers were fired for being overheard talking about how they'd like to slaughter more Blacks. This is a horribly racist nation It feels like we are back in the 60s. We need leaders in this nation, not dividers.

Luisa
06-27-2020, 10:59 AM
In response to Lois, “did your dad fit”. Nobody fits in another culture, race, etc. as well as the members of that group. There are so many Black athletes, entertainers, politicians, etc., to imply that Blacks don’t fit in in this day and time is absurd.
And no my dad didn’t always fit, he was white, from Oklahoma, and lived in California. I heard “Okie”, as well as insulting language towards people from the south for 50 years of my 67 years.
As for community college money ( where I attended and now able to live in the Villages), it comes from the $4,500. a year I pay in property taxes and 13% state taxes in California.

jimjamuser
06-27-2020, 11:12 AM
Rich athletes taking a knee claiming racist treatment of blacks. How many of these multi millionaire athletes have used some of their money to back a black entrepreneur to establish a business in a black area? A business that would provide jobs in these areas for the people living there. Besides Oprah Winfrey how many other rich blacks are helping out fellow blacks with their riches? If there are any why isn't the media championing these individuals?

I used to live near Ft. Campbell, KY. As with any area around a military base there are foreign born spouses that married a military person. There is a large group of Koreans in that area and they help each other, a very tight group. If one of them wants to borrow money they do not go to a bank, there are people in the group that will lend the money to them. They help each other when starting a business by patronizing that business or working for the new business owner. When one gets sick someone steps in and helps them out where ever necessary.

Instead of taking a knee put your money where your mouth is and do something that will really help fellow blacks. Just like the Hollywood types that emcee a charity fund raising event. I remember one was asked how much they donated and the response was they were donating their time to emcee the show. Can't part with that money, it's mine.
Maybe the well off people in America's Friendliest City could start a Telethon to help out BLM

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06-27-2020, 11:17 AM
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