Thousands of stickers at the Tulsa rally removed

[coffeebean]

The stickers that were removed were stickers promoting social distancing. I kid you not. Just saw this on the news. I won't say who ordered those stickers to be removed.

What I want to know is WHY???? Coronavirus numbers are spiking in America and not promoting social distancing is sending the wrong message to Americans. Someone, please explain this rationale to me.

[mtdjed]

And this is an issue? Kind of like removing no parking posters on a street that were placed there for a parade. After the parade, they are removed.

[coffeebean]

And this is an issue? Kind of like removing no parking posters on a street that were placed there for a parade. After the parade, they are removed.

The stickers were removed BEFORE the rally. What does that tell you?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/workers-removed-thousands-of-social-distancing-stickers-before-trumps-tulsa-rally-according-to-video-and-a-person-familiar-with-the-set-up/2020/06/27/f429c3be-b801-11ea-9b0f-c797548c1154_story.html

You can read a detailed (but incomplete) explanation of events here, including a short video capture of someone taking the stickers off the seats prior to the rally.

[Bucco]

The stickers that were removed were stickers promoting social distancing. I kid you not. Just saw this on the news. I won't say who ordered those stickers to be removed.

What I want to know is WHY???? Coronavirus numbers are spiking in America and not promoting social distancing is sending the wrong message to Americans. Someone, please explain this rationale to me.

It simply defines who or what is the priority.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It was done so that the crowds could be encouraged to cluster together (which they did).

[Bucco]

It was done so that the crowds could be encouraged to cluster together (which they did).

Again, it simply defines the priorities.

[anothersteve]

Again, it simply defines the priorities.


Ahhhh.................always speaking in tongues..........

Steve

[coalminer]

Let's just skip the excuses. No rallies should be held during a pandemic. It's completely irresponsible to do so.

[Vette2014]

It’s past time that People take personal responsibility for themselves. They should not need stickers. What is needed is common sense.

[Pamelah]

Perhaps they feared there wouldn’t be as many people as originally thought and attendees smooshed together looks like more than sitting in every third seat? Then again, making rational sense would be unique wouldn’t it?

[greenflash245]

3 guesses, the first 2 don't count.

[Girlcopper]

The stickers were removed BEFORE the rally. What does that tell you?
Who cares? You need a sticker to tell you to social distance?

[Singerlady]

And this is an issue? Kind of like removing no parking posters on a street that were placed there for a parade. After the parade, they are removed.

I believe they were removed BEFORE the rally started. Issue.

[Bernie1]

Life is all about choices, some good, some not so good, but they still remain OUR choice.

Why do so many want to blame someone else for what happens to them? We all know the virus is out there, if your not staying locked down that is YOUR CHOICE and if you get it, your fault. Or should you blame a sticker?

[kanoa1kale2]

Let's just skip the excuses. No rallies should be held during a pandemic. It's completely irresponsible to do so.

That includes protests! Correct?

[boobear51751]

humm another deep thinker and well educated person among those that know the real story.

[Russp]

How about all the protest not social distancing. It’s a problem everywhere. You can’t complain unless you include all areas.

[jbrown132]

Let's just skip the excuses. No rallies should be held during a pandemic. It's completely irresponsible to do so.

Using this rational, then all pools, golf, squares, restaurants, churches etc. and anywhere people gather, should also not be allowed. What really is needed is a dose of common sense.

[Heyitsrick]

Who cares? You need a sticker to tell you to social distance?

+1

I guess people in Tulsa would think that there was some kind of magic pixie dust in the arena if they didn't see stickers. Of course, never mind that they had to sign a release that they wouldn't hold the campaign liable were they to contract the virus. Yeah, no one would have made a connection to risk doing that. They received masks, hand sanitizer and got temperature checks upon arrival.

Here's a guy sitting in the upper deck at the rally. Take a look at the spacing between seats - even with an empty seat next to him. There's no way that's anywhere near 6' of distance between every other seat.

https://i.imgur.com/du62ZI0.jpg

Look, I wouldn't go to a rally like this now, myself. And no, I don't think it's wise nor prudent to hold an indoor rally right now. People made their choices. And obviously, notwithstanding some digital hacking, many people opted not to go.

I also wouldn't be marching around with thousands of other individuals during this time, either. But hey - we all know that's more important, so a pass is given -particularly in the media. Cue the "but they're outside!" mantras. Well, if that's the prevailing point of view, then to be consistent people must necessarily agree that outside political rallies are fine, too.

[boobear51751]

All gatherings need to stop NOW. We are killing our own people. For God sakes the only way you as an individual are going to make any change at all is to get yourself registered to vote in November. Change out all of the leaders who have fought against common sense rulings. The Constitution was NOT written by our forefathers to cover mass killings. It was however written to let its' citizens protect themselves and their families from danger. Danger my folks is here. It is your responsibility to wear the mask so if YOU have the virus you don't give it to someone else. I would love to grab some of these wise mouth people and have them bring their parents, grandparents, aunt, uncles and close friends into a room. Then the unmasked person would be told that they had the virus. At that point that person would need to decide which one of their relatives or good friend they want to give the virus to because there is a very good chance that relative will die from it or get so deathly ill they wished they had died. You may be the next mass killer in our state. PS: I have a friend who died from this virus recently and he died all alone and never heard or saw his family and friends again. How awful is that?

[Vonjor@gmail.com]

Well, it's called "survival of the fittest". Those who don't have enough grey matter to adhere to the recommendation regarding social distancing will eventually be thinned from the herd, leaving a better life for those with enough common sense to follow the guidance.
Let them do as they please, and good riddance. Thank you Mr. Darwin.

[boobear51751]

You are so correct. All of these riots and marches here in the central part of Florida (especially TV) have really done us in. I think that the marches and burning of buildings last night was the worst here yet. How about our government not doing their job and protecting its' people. Cover your darn mouth because you may be a mass killer in disguise.

[Careyjan]

And no protests should be allowed during a pandemic!

[boobear51751]

Viruses don't know distance. It knows how to kill. Work in the science field and learn the facts before you open up your mouth. Should any of you have the virus please by all means keep it in your family and leave the rest of us alone. You decide which of you family member will contract the virus from YOU and you must tell them to their face you are looking to pass it on to them. Smile, you just took down your mother. Are you happy now?

[bmit16]

Let's just skip the excuses. No rallies should be held during a pandemic. It's completely irresponsible to do so.

No protest should be held during a pandemic either. To think a protestor can not get the virus but a rally goer can is about as biased as one can get.

[billethkid]

I wonder if it is a clue that the latest spike in the numbers is from the younger crowd.

Hmmmmnnnn.....beaches/protests.....younger people.....no masks....no social distancing.....younger people.....

Maybe when enough of them bring it home to their Mom or Dad or Grand parents they might wake up.......nah......that obviously does not matter to the radicals.

[huange@verizon.net]

It was done so that the crowds could be encouraged to cluster together (which they did).

Hey look! There’s seat in the nose bleed section, let’s sit there!

[fdpaq0580]

It’s past time that People take personal responsibility for themselves. They should not need stickers. What is needed is common sense.

Sorry, but common sense doesn't exist. If it did, we would all be on the same page on this issue and all others as well.
Stay safe. Stay healthy.

[theruizs]

It’s past time that People take personal responsibility for themselves. They should not need stickers. What is needed is common sense.

Everyone has common sense. The problem is so few use it that we are headed for another lock down, or partial one. Bars are already being hit. Those who won’t wear masks or social distance (the ones who are causing it) will be the loudest complainers about it too. Go figure.

[LG999]

But so many people do not have common sense and also do not know how to think for themselves or figure out how to do something (sheep).

[forebubba]

The stickers that were removed were stickers promoting social distancing. I kid you not. Just saw this on the news. I won't say who ordered those stickers to be removed.

What I want to know is WHY???? Coronavirus numbers are spiking in America and not promoting social distancing is sending the wrong message to Americans. Someone, please explain this rationale to me.

Come on people..it's in the constitution, we have the right to be stupid.
US has 4% of the world population and over 25% of the deaths. We are paying for our greatest economy( lie) with human lives

[coffeebean]

Who cares? You need a sticker to tell you to social distance?

Yes, they did need stickers. What I saw was shoulder to shoulder with no empty seats in most of the lower level.

[coffeebean]

Life is all about choices, some good, some not so good, but they still remain OUR choice.

Why do so many want to blame someone else for what happens to them? We all know the virus is out there, if your not staying locked down that is YOUR CHOICE and if you get it, your fault. Or should you blame a sticker?

I abhor the message that is being sent that social distancing is not necessary. THAT is the issue here.

[Chabill]

This is politics... common sense doesn't apply.

[Byte1]

Wait a second, ......uhh, just a minute.......hmmmm.................WHO CARES?

I don't see anyone complaining about the REAL source of the surge in infected........THE BLACK LIVES MATTER protests. Didn't see any social distancing in any of the news feeds. Yes, mainstream media news feeds.

Like I said.............WHO CARES? Do you need someone to tell you/instruct you to social distance or wear a mask? If you don't wish to participate because you might get infected, ....then DON'T participate. No one is ordering anyone to gather in a group.

Time to get over pointing fingers at others. Some folks are always looking for a little white cross in a front yard to complain about, when others don't even notice them.

[bmit16]

Ironically, I also noticed someone also pulled up the stickers on the streets of American cities telling people to socially distance and stay 6 feet apart. But, that does not fall in line with the OP's point,I guess!

[Cecilebug]

Ok no protests riots first

[GoodLife]

Wait a second, ......uhh, just a minute.......hmmmm.................WHO CARES?

I don't see anyone complaining about the REAL source of the surge in infected........THE BLACK LIVES MATTER protests. Didn't see any social distancing in any of the news feeds. Yes, mainstream media news feeds.

Like I said.............WHO CARES? Do you need someone to tell you/instruct you to social distance or wear a mask? If you don't wish to participate because you might get infected, ....then DON'T participate. No one is ordering anyone to gather in a group.

Time to get over pointing fingers at others. Some folks are always looking for a little white cross in a front yard to complain about, when others don't even notice them.

Exactly.

I'm outraged about stickers and social distancing at a rally with a few thousand people.

Millions walking shoulder to shoulder while chanting and screaming. Crickets

Selective outrage is comical.

[The Caretaker]

Let's just skip the excuses. No rallies should be held during a pandemic. It's completely irresponsible to do so.

But you can have a riot of thousands of people?

[Sherry8bal]

It’s past time that People take personal responsibility for themselves. They should not need stickers. What is needed is common sense.

I totally agree. If people can't be responsible for themselves, what the heck is wrong with us. All these people were checked for fevers before coming in anyway so why is it anyone's business that they used their "right" to assemble. If precautions before entering had not been done then that's a different story.

Some people want to make something out of nothing. Many of these people testing positive now are the "kids" who didn't social distance while protesting, rioting, visiting bars and on the beaches. Many are not "sick" but they are testing positive which shoots the numbers way up and who knows where they go then after being positive? Probably home to mommy and daddy's basement infecting the whole family.

Again, it all comes down to responsibility and anyone who is an adult and still living with mommy and daddy sure isn't responsible!!

[Curtisbwp]

I believe it is very simple....zDestroy america.


The stickers that were removed were stickers promoting social distancing. I kid you not. Just saw this on the news. I won't say who ordered those stickers to be removed.

What I want to know is WHY???? Coronavirus numbers are spiking in America and not promoting social distancing is sending the wrong message to Americans. Someone, please explain this rationale to me.

[NoMoSno]

Thousands of one way stickers have been removed from stores...:eek:...:popcorn:

[Villages Kahuna]

We all know “why”.

[gogond]

I think it’s FAKE NEWS !!

[PugMom]

@ the walgreens in lake deaton plaza they are offering corona tests to ANYONE. i asked specifically if we needed to show symptoms to get the test & i was told we DO NOT. i asked why & was told they are testing for the antibodies. we do not need a referral, just make appt online or show up in person. i'm now wondering if the people who carry the virus & not showing symptoms are the ones being included in the # of new cases?? if so, why aren't those criteria explained when reported in the news?

[sipops]

There should be no demonstrating, looting or rioting either.

[sloanst]

You can't include golf. That sport is a natural for distancing, social or not.

[jackiez45]

I totally agree!

[GoodLife]

You can't include golf. That sport is a natural for distancing, social or not.

Golf is allowed but only if you fix ball marks, divots, rake traps, and are not a slowpoke.

Otherwise you get covid.

[coffeebean]

Exactly.

I'm outraged about stickers and social distancing at a rally with a few thousand people.

Millions walking shoulder to shoulder while chanting and screaming. Crickets

Selective outrage is comical.

I'm outraged about the protests and the rallies with no social distancing. People have lost their livelihoods because of this virus. Bars have closed again and protests are allowed to persist? I do not agree with that.

[Red Rose]

People should take full responsibility for themselves and stop playing the childish blame game.

[Red Rose]

There are no rakes.

[Marvic 1]

This is beyond me, but, why are WHITE people still protesting? :shrug:

[twinklesweep]

I wonder if it is a clue that the latest spike in the numbers is from the younger crowd.

Hmmmmnnnn.....beaches/protests.....younger people.....no masks....no social distancing.....younger people.....

Maybe when enough of them bring it home to their Mom or Dad or Grand parents they might wake up.......nah......that obviously does not matter to the radicals.

Maybe Mom and Dad and even Grandparents are not at home. Maybe they are the ‘radicals’ who are standing cheek by jowl, shoulder to shoulder, at the bars (yes, attached to restaurants) during the brief period they were reopened and had to be closed again because of poor to no planning going into the reopening, coupled with, as pointed out many times in this and other threads, absent common sense.

The virus is far from over. For all the opinions out there, in the end we can ignore all this and evaluate based solely on numbers, dates, and facts.

[petiteone]

And this is an issue? Kind of like removing no parking posters on a street that were placed there for a parade. After the parade, they are removed.
CDC guidelines state we need to be 6 feet away from each other. In addition no one was required to wear a mask. Every other seat was tagged with Do Not Sit Here to insure people were distanced and those signs were removed. We need to protect each other. Look at the virus burning across Florida now that people are being disrespectful of each other.

[Byte1]

The sky is falling!

[GoodLife]

I'm outraged about the protests and the rallies with no social distancing. People have lost their livelihoods because of this virus. Bars have closed again and protests are allowed to persist? I do not agree with that.

Very good, that is logical. There are many who only show outrage at one or the other

[Lindsyburnsy]

Stickers were removed PRIOR to the rally not after.

[Byte1]

If you did not attend the rally, then why does it matter if the signs/stickers were removed? Am I supposed to be outraged if some drivers do not wear seat belts? I admit that I am irritated when I see folks drive through stop signs without stopping. Sorry if I am not very concerned about what some adults do a thousand miles away. I think I will concentrate my focus on what is happening in The Villages. Sumter county, STILL only 17 deaths by the virus. And increase in those that are infected, but I find a bit of comfort knowing that the death rate in my area has not risen much recently.

[ColdNoMore]

This is beyond me, but, why are WHITE people still protesting? :shrug:

Sincere question here...why shouldn't they be? :confused:

[Byte1]

Anyone notice that the same folks complaining about stickers on seats being removed are the same that WANT stickers from the mail boxes removed? Something to ponder.

[roscoguy]

I don't see anyone complaining about the REAL source of the surge in infected........THE BLACK LIVES MATTER protests. Didn't see any social distancing in any of the news feeds. Yes, mainstream media news feeds.

According to whom? While there have been warnings that protests MAY cause transmission, I've heard nothing to back up your claim.

[Byte1]

According to whom? While there have been warnings that protests MAY cause transmission, I've heard nothing to back up your claim.

Have you heard anything other than speculation that the sudden surge was from any other source? Common sense will suggest that those thousands of rubbing bodies in the streets, running, sweating and tearing from gas is more likely going to cause the spread than a few folks in an air conditioned bar, drinking sanitizer (alcohol). You can say rioting did not cause a spread and I will say it did. Politicians won't admit that these protests caused it because they do not want to be labeled "racists" during an election year. Even a blind heifer can see that. Key evidence suggesting that the protests were instrumental in the surge is the sudden multiple accounts of young folks in their teens and early twenties testing positive. I doubt they hang out at the bars.

[Kilmacowen]

Saw on the news yesterday, 3 reporters , one outside Publix Ft Lauderdale , one outside supermarket in Oklahoma and one in California. Taking note of how many people had masks on going into the supermarket. Percent ranged from 20 to 35%. I can not get into any store without a mask in my town up north thanks to our governor and everyone cooperating to get back to normal.

[coffeebean]

If you did not attend the rally, then why does it matter if the signs/stickers were removed? Am I supposed to be outraged if some drivers do not wear seat belts? I admit that I am irritated when I see folks drive through stop signs without stopping. Sorry if I am not very concerned about what some adults do a thousand miles away. I think I will concentrate my focus on what is happening in The Villages. Sumter county, STILL only 17 deaths by the virus. And increase in those that are infected, but I find a bit of comfort knowing that the death rate in my area has not risen much recently.

You have tunnel vision.....thinking only about your own home town. I'm concerned about stimulating our economy as a country. The message our administration sent all Americans is not the message we need to get this economy up and running again. As it is now, we are going backwards with the opening up. Why?.......... Because we, the a population of this great country of ours, have not gotten a grasp on mitigating this virus.

The message they sent at that rally was it is OK not to social distance and it is OK not to wear a mask. REALLY? I would think our current administration would want to make our economy healthier, not weaken it. Oh, and saving a few lives might be nice too!

[Lindsyburnsy]

Well, that’s why there needed to be stickers. Thousands of positive COVID19 cases are proof that common sense Is gone.

[hifred123]

You find it offensive? I find it funny. That's why I am happier than you.

Shouldn't you find the BLM movement funny? Shouldn't you find the consequences of the BLM movement funny?

[Byte1]

You have tunnel vision.....thinking only about your own home town. I'm concerned about stimulating our economy as a country. The message our administration sent all Americans is not the message we need to get this economy up and running again. As it is now, we are going backwards with the opening up. Why?.......... Because we, the a population of this great country of ours, have not gotten a grasp on mitigating this virus.

The message they sent at that rally was it is OK not to social distance and it is OK not to wear a mask. REALLY? I would think our current administration would want to make our economy healthier, not weaken it. Oh, and saving a few lives might be nice too!

Since I am not a subject matter expert on this thing, I can't make sweeping statements as if they are facts, such as what "message" D.C. is sending to Americans. I am not a mind reader. Unlike some on here, I believe that if we keep everything closed down, our economy will tank big time and we will end up in a depression. My opinion. I have not seen our country close down for the flu, even when 61,000 died from it in 2018. I got that figure from the Internet so it might be wrong. I am curious as to how some on here are all upset over sticker removal and a Trump rally, but run right along beside thousands of protesters that are protesting NOTHING. I say "nothing" because they have achieved their goal and they just keep on destroying and killing. Also my opinion.
This whole thing has turned into a political tug of war, in an election year...period.

In my opinion, if we lost half the world's population to this thing, we would still have too many humans wasting good air.

[roscoguy]

Have you heard anything other than speculation that the sudden surge was from any other source? Common sense will suggest that those thousands of rubbing bodies in the streets, running, sweating and tearing from gas is more likely going to cause the spread than a few folks in an air conditioned bar, drinking sanitizer (alcohol). You can say rioting did not cause a spread and I will say it did. Politicians won't admit that these protests caused it because they do not want to be labeled "racists" during an election year. Even a blind heifer can see that. Key evidence suggesting that the protests were instrumental in the surge is the sudden multiple accounts of young folks in their teens and early twenties testing positive. I doubt they hang out at the bars.

Actually, I've only heard by speculation that protests have had anything to do with the surge. The idea that drinking can fend off ANY virus is wishful thinking at best. Also, I didn't say a word about rioting; now you're changing "protests" to rioting?
Don't know any blind heifers; what do they tell you? :1rotfl: Show us this "key evidence" that it wasn't bars and beaches. Do you really doubt that 20-somethings hang around in bars and on beaches???

[Byte1]

You find it offensive? I find it funny. That's why I am happier than you.

Shouldn't you find the BLM movement funny? Shouldn't you find the consequences of the BLM movement funny?

I am sorry if my little signature was not clear. Perhaps you can explain to me what correlation my statement would have to me finding the BLM movement funny? Or the consequences of the BLM movement as being funny? Not sure of what you are insinuating.
In case I was not clear, the statement under the post, below the border is considered a signature. Many folks on here use them. It may or may not have anything at all to do with the subject or the post, or for that matter any posts. It may just mean that if someone says something that offends, I may find it funny. That may be the reason I am a happier person than some others that are easily offended. Hope that clarifies this a little.

If one is seriously asking me if I find the BLM movement funny, I do not. I am not supportive of BLM and right now I am very irritated that they have overstayed their welcome. I believe the who thing has turned into a political stunt in an attempt to influence or manipulate the coming election. It is also my opinion that if this was not an election year, NO ONE would tolerate the mass destruction and killings gone on in the guise of this being a civil rights issue. I have never treated anyone of color, gender or gender bender any different than I would another. When it comes to my association with others, I do not see color. I judge people on their character and honesty. I do not enjoy associating with people that live with a chip on their shoulder, especially a chip that serves no function and has no reason for being there. I have wronged no minority that I know of and do not believe that I owe anyone an apology for something someone else did. I do not apologize for my country for perceived wrongs that may have occurred in the past, and I do not feel that I owe anyone an apology just because I may be a different color, or a male or straight or a Christian.

And I definitely do not owe anyone an apology for not being "offended" by sticker removals at a Trump rally. Perhaps the incident was exaggerated. Perhaps some folks removed the stickers so that their significant other could sit next to them. Or maybe there was another reason. I did not attend so in my opinion, some folks just want to make it a political issue. Since this does not bother me, maybe that's why I am happier than others.

[Byte1]

Actually, I've only heard by speculation that protests have had anything to do with the surge. The idea that drinking can fend off ANY virus is wishful thinking at best. Also, I didn't say a word about rioting; now you're changing "protests" to rioting?
Don't know any blind heifers; what do they tell you? :1rotfl: Show us this "key evidence" that it wasn't bars and beaches. Do you really doubt that 20-somethings hang around in bars and on beaches???

I believe I asked first. Where's the evidence that it was bars and not "protests" and rioting that is causing the surge? Has anyone polled the infected to see if they were associated with bar flies or "protesters?" Now, "beaches" are added to the statement to boost validity of the statement?
Explain to me how protesters rubbing against each other, sweating, weeping from tear gas, etc. is less plausible than someone sitting NEAR someone else in a bar drinking a beer. Other than it being a political issue, with no one wanting find any fault with the so-called "protesters" aka criminals destroying property and injuring people.
I do not frequent bars, so maybe I do not know enough about the environment. It could have changed a bit in the last 45+ years. I do know what I see on news feeds though.
Don't agree with me. That's an American right. I don't believe that bars are the sole source and think they are being closed as an instrument of politics. Throw the bars under the bus, because it is easier and more acceptable to the majority than to be perceived as a racist for suggesting that this particular protest activity might also be a method of transmitting a fatal illness. I also believe that no one wants to admit how much of hypocrites they are for coddling bad behavior, whether it's BLM, White Nationalists, Occupy Wall St, or Antifa. Misbehavior is not to be tolerated, no matter what the excuse.
Like I said, no one has to agree with me. But, I bet there are more like minded than some would like to admit.