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coffeebean
06-28-2020, 09:53 AM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

tophcfa
06-28-2020, 09:57 AM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African Americans" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

Perhaps because the movement is not titled “African American Lives Matter”?

charlieo1126@gmail.com
06-28-2020, 10:23 AM
Hmmmm is that like Irish American, Italian American interesting how some the same words can be used with pride while the same words can be used with disdain

njbchbum
06-28-2020, 10:23 AM
Perhaps because in our world of cultural diversity all blacks are not African nor American?

Stu from NYC
06-28-2020, 10:44 AM
Hmmmm is that like Irish American, Italian American interesting how some the same words can be used with pride while the same words can be used with disdain

Interesting for sure

dewilson58
06-28-2020, 10:58 AM
NAACP


:shrug:

Kahuna32162
06-28-2020, 11:15 AM
Why do we need terms to distinguish any group of people by ethnicity?

Velvet
06-28-2020, 11:24 AM
I was always a little surprised by the term African American because there was no use of European American. But, I think people should be allowed to chose whatever term they like to refer to themselves. My problem is with propaganda, if BLM is using Marxism or Communism as a model, then I have a real problem with that.

JoMar
06-28-2020, 12:52 PM
It's still in use

coffeebean
06-28-2020, 01:22 PM
It's still in use

Really? I have not heard or read that term at all with the uprising of this BLM movement.

blueash
06-28-2020, 01:30 PM
I called my grandfather "Grandpa" and he liked that term. It worked for both of us. But now that I am of that age I want my grandchildren to use a different term for me. My grandchildren may use grandpa with their other grandfather but they have learned that my preferred term differs. It is a sign of respect for my feelings that they use my preferred name. If at one time Black Americans wanted to be called colored because at least it was better than "n..r" then colored it is. If later they went to Negro as it made them more comfortable, then Negro it should be. If later this becomes African American then it behooves any reasonable person to switch to African American. If now it is Black, I don't see the problem.

What term people use within their own group is not automatically a term a non-member of the group is allowed to use. If I were Jewish and I called my friend Hymie boy or Kike that does not give you permission to use the term. Within a group the foul label being hurled by the oppressing non-member at it is often used to attempt to have it loose its power. Yankee Doodle was an major insult when used by the British. Even after its adoption by the Revolutionaries, it was still an insult when used by a British soldier.

Boomer
06-28-2020, 03:05 PM
, . .

Slapnut
06-29-2020, 04:59 AM
It should just be American. That's what we should call ourselves.

Cranford61
06-29-2020, 05:19 AM
Hmmmm is that like Irish American, Italian American interesting how some the same words can be used with pride while the same words can be used with disdainsorta started in 2003? when former NJ Democratic governor, James McGreevy announced on television, with his wife aside him, “the truth is that I am a gay American”. Wife was shocked, shamed but then hired a divorce attorney to sue his butt. McGreevey then resigned and got a job advocating gay rights.
Maybe Villagers should declare themselves “hirsute- Americans”, “snow-capped Americans”, “dysmorphic-Americans” or “thirsty-Americans”. Thoughts?

coalminer
06-29-2020, 05:21 AM
This letter oozes with insincereity

Clydles1
06-29-2020, 05:25 AM
From the mouth of those in the know, (my teenage grandchild), not all blacks are from Africa, so the term is obsolete. See, they are learning something?

Buckeye Bob
06-29-2020, 05:41 AM
it should just be american. That's what we should call ourselves.

amen.

Heyitsrick
06-29-2020, 06:00 AM
I called my grandfather "Grandpa" and he liked that term. It worked for both of us. But now that I am of that age I want my grandchildren to use a different term for me. My grandchildren may use grandpa with their other grandfather but they have learned that my preferred term differs. It is a sign of respect for my feelings that they use my preferred name. If at one time Black Americans wanted to be called colored because at least it was better than "n..r" then colored it is. If later they went to Negro as it made them more comfortable, then Negro it should be. If later this becomes African American then it behooves any reasonable person to switch to African American. If now it is Black, I don't see the problem.

What term people use within their own group is not automatically a term a non-member of the group is allowed to use. If I were Jewish and I called my friend Hymie boy or Kike that does not give you permission to use the term. Within a group the foul label being hurled by the oppressing non-member at it is often used to attempt to have it loose its power. Yankee Doodle was an major insult when used by the British. Even after its adoption by the Revolutionaries, it was still an insult when used by a British soldier.

Interesting how you inserted dots for an awful black slur, but thought nothing of just tossing in similarly despicable Jewish slurs as complete words. There's some irony here, too, as one of the terms you mentioned was used by prominent black Americans - Jesse Jackson, being one.

Oh, what am I saying...Jews never suffered in world history. It's not like millions of them were summarily executed - many after being forced into despicable conditions in slave labor camps. And it's not like many people still hold Jews in contempt. You know..."they control all the money", etc, or that there are actual countries that want to destroy Israel. Never mind. All's good.

Byte1
06-29-2020, 06:10 AM
I have a good friend that is African, from Africa. I also have a relative that is African from Africa. Both are white. Neither refer to themselves as Anglo Africans or White Africans. From the REAL Africans that I am acquainted with, they consider it a slight that our black Americans refer to themselves as African Americans, when there is hardly any commonality other than genealogically diluted blood. Whether or not they are speaking through cultural or pride bias, one can only speculate.

TheMoyers
06-29-2020, 06:15 AM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

Who determines PC? I recently watched two blacks on a video laughing at Pelosi, schemer, and several other Democratic politicians wearing shawls from "Roots" and kneeling on the capitol steps. as they said, it's an insult to black people. NOT ALL AFRICANS are black. These and I would hope more want to be called AMERICANS.

fdpaq0580
06-29-2020, 06:45 AM
It should just be American. That's what we should call ourselves.

I agree. We Americans should be referred to as such, although it would make it more difficult in trying to describe the person whom you are needing to meet at an airport, a restaurant or other situation where you have never met before. For example, someone is coming into town for a business meeting and you are assigned the task of picking them up. " How will I recognize them" you ask. If your boss says "they are American", you won't have much to go on.
Personally, I would prefer to be "Caucasian" rather than "White" because I am not white, I'm actually a shade of beige or tan, depending on how much time I spend in the sun. Hey, that is just me. I was not raised to think some people are good or bad or inferior or better because of their race. I was taught to recognize different cultures and appreciate the beauty that diversity brings to the world. I guess not everybody sees it that way, and to me, that is sad.

Bay Kid
06-29-2020, 06:46 AM
Black and White.

Windguy
06-29-2020, 07:01 AM
I’ve never really understood the African American term. After all, we all have African ancestors. In fact, we are all cousins (other than direct ancestors, etc.). I don’t see why we can’t get along and put this ugly racist crap that seems to have flourished in the last four years behind us.

DeanFL
06-29-2020, 07:04 AM
Is THIS ongoing news from Chicago (and other violence in metro areas) reported by Mainstream Media??? -perhaps a passing mention, but... of course not - it simply DOES NOT fit the narrative for Media and BLM.

It's STUNNING that mayors/council etc of these communities are not tarred and feathered out of office.

Imagine if ONE Police Officer shot and grazed a citizen ---- HELL would break loose in the Mass Media and BLM.

But these ongoing B on B murders on our city streets - barely a mention, and shhhhh by movement leaders et al. What a disgrace...
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Chicago's weekend shootings kill at least 13, including 1-year-old boy, 10-year-old girl, reports say

Chicago faced another bloody weekend, with at least 13 people killed in shootings – including a 1-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl, prompting new fears about a violent summer ahead.

The violence, which followed a deadly Father's Day weekend, started Friday evening when a 42-year-old man was shot in the head while walking on the sidewalk in the Austin neighborhood, police said.

On Saturday night, a stray bullet flew through an apartment window in the Logan Square neighborhood and struck the 10-year-old girl, according to police spokesman Roberto Garduno. The girl later died at a hospital.

Preliminary information showed the gunfire came from a group who had been shooting at each other on the block, he said. No one was in custody Sunday.

Earlier Saturday in the Englewood neighborhood on the city's South Side, a 1-year-old boy who was riding in the back of a car driven by his mother was shot when someone opened fire from another car. The mother suffered a graze wound to the head. The boy was identified as Sincere A. Gaston.

Police said the motive for the shooting was unclear.

Superintendent David Brown pleaded with the public for someone to come forward with details.

Around 11:30 a.m. Saturday, 17-year-old Antiwon Douglas was killed. Police said he got into a fight before someone from a large crowd that was gathered in the Humboldt Park neighborhood on the city's West Side fired shots.

At least nine other people died in shootings through Sunday. The violence has prompted activists and local leaders to call for more state and federal support.

"It's out of control where even innocent children are losing their lives," said neighborhood activist Raul Montes Jr., who planned a Sunday-evening vigil on the city's southwest side.

He called for federal intervention while a state legislator announced a new task force to address underlying issues.

"Violence is a result of poverty, and must be addressed with human services and support," state Rep. La Shawn Ford, a Chicago Democrat, said in a statement. The group called on federal, state and city leaders for support.

Kgcetm
06-29-2020, 07:05 AM
I use their first name and that seems to work well. They pretend not to notice I’m Irish and I pretend not to know their black. Neither of us is offrnded.

golfing eagles
06-29-2020, 07:07 AM
I’ve never really understood the African American term. After all, we all have African ancestors. In fact, we are all cousins (other than direct ancestors, etc.). I don’t see why we can’t get along and put this ugly racist crap that seems to have flourished in the last four years behind us.

Do you sincerely believe this "racist crap" has only been going on for 4 years??????

Charleston
06-29-2020, 07:14 AM
Real equality will not happen until those hyphens disappear

Andyb
06-29-2020, 07:16 AM
Easier to type

DeanFL
06-29-2020, 07:18 AM
[QUOTE=DeanFL;1794283]Is THIS ongoing news from Chicago (and other violence in metro areas) reported by Mainstream Media??? -perhaps a passing mention, but... of course not - it simply DOES NOT fit the narrative for Media and BLM.

It's STUNNING that mayors/council etc of these communities are not tarred and feathered out of office.

Imagine if ONE Police Officer shot and grazed a citizen ---- HELL would break loose in the Mass Media and BLM.

But these ongoing B on B murders on our city streets - barely a mention, and shhhhh by movement leaders et al. What a disgrace...
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and more....

Anyone here about THIS on the news????

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A Chicago man is accused of killing two teenagers at a convenience store this month after they asked how tall he was, authorities said on Thursday.

VIOLENT WEEKEND IN CHICAGO: 15 KILLED, INCLUDING 1-YEAR-OLD

Laroy Battle, 19, reportedly opened fire on Jasean Francis, 17, and Charles Riley, 16, in a back ally around 5 p.m. on June 20 after they and a friend walked home from buying candy at the store -- following a brief encounter with the suspect.

The teenagers, described as “very good kids from really excellent families,” were reportedly asked by their mothers to buy candy at the store. They didn't know Battle, but after asking about his 6-foot-3 height, he reportedly followed them out and fired nine rounds at the teenagers, police said.

Chicago man killed 2 teens after they asked how tall he was, police say | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-man-killed-2-teens-asked-how-tall-he-report)

Bill1701
06-29-2020, 07:24 AM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

A better question is why we used terms like -American to begin with. To my knowledge, no other country uses terms like that, other than French Canadian.

kenoc7
06-29-2020, 07:24 AM
I was always a little surprised by the term African American because there was no use of European American. But, I think people should be allowed to chose whatever term they like to refer to themselves. My problem is with propaganda, if BLM is using Marxism or Communism as a model, then I have a real problem with that.
They aren't.

Manhoopty
06-29-2020, 07:30 AM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!
Why not ask that famous African- American golfer named Ernie Els? He should surely know.

Angieflynn
06-29-2020, 07:52 AM
And that’s how we defeat racism!

phylt
06-29-2020, 07:54 AM
Strange... I'd heard that "black" was in a list of offensive terms. Now what??

Mohawksin
06-29-2020, 08:00 AM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!
Forty years or people started using the term African American. A friend was a great dentist and a fine fellow was light tan and a native from Egypt. He was extremely offended by being included in the group.

Mohawksin
06-29-2020, 08:04 AM
Forty years or so ago people started using the term African American. A friend was a great dentist and a fine fellow was light tan and a native from Egypt. He was extremely offended by being included in the group.

OrangeBlossomBaby
06-29-2020, 08:07 AM
Perhaps because in our world of cultural diversity all blacks are not African nor American?

In addition, white people born in Africa and living in the USA would be technically African Americans.

Joe C.
06-29-2020, 08:09 AM
I would prefer the term "American of African descent", or "American of European descent". Or, how about "AMERICAN" if you are a citizen.

If you go to Europe or Asia, (even Australia), you will be called an "American". Over there, they don't add your ancestral country to your identification.

I think that it was Teddy Roosevelt who said that there was no place in this country for the hyphenated American. After all, it's the hyphen that divides. Either we are Americans or we're not. Using the hyphenated identification will cause us to become tribal ......a nation full of tribes. And we know how well off countries with tribes are. Total unrest.
United we stand ... divided we fall.

theruizs
06-29-2020, 08:12 AM
Why do we need terms to distinguish any group of people by ethnicity?

Agree! Why are we not just all Americans? Specifying ethnicity just perpetuates discrimination and bigotry, IMHO.

MandoMan
06-29-2020, 08:28 AM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!
Perhaps you would prefer “coffeebean colored”? (Joking) Actually, I continue to see African-American a lot. It tends to be used in a very specialized way. People aren’t “African-American” unless they have lived the experience and have ancestors who where slaves in the United States. (I have ancestors who were slaves in British Guiana and Surinam, so I have African ancestry, but I’m not African-American [not least because I have blue eyes and straight blond hair]. President Obama is also not African-American. Neither is Kamala Harris, whose father is of mixed ancestry from Jamaica and hose mother is from India. Nor are U.S. citizens whose ancestors came from Caribbean islands. They can’t ever be because their ancestors didn’t suffer HERE.)

“White” is not capitalized in books and newspapers except at the beginning of a sentence, or similar uses. No one is actually white, and no one is actually black (and few of us are from the Caucasus mountains, so why are we “caucasians”?), so to some extent, to say we are one or the other is to claim the EXTREME that doesn’t even exist as a natural skin tone as our state of being, or even as a “race”, which it isn’t, using the technical scientific term. Thus, to claim to be “Black” rather than “black” is to say, “we are different, separate, with our own culture, our own “race,” and we want to be equal without having to assimilate.” Those who want to be seen as “White” do the same thing. It seems to me that either claim is inherently racist and part of the problem. To see a person in a blue uniform or a person with a light tan or pinkish skin and automatically think “Racist oppressor of my people“ is automatically racist, just as those who see a darker brown skin and automatically tar (deliberate word choice—to make black) that human with centuries of prejudiced thoughts and actions are automatically racist. To insist on being equal yet separate while not wanting “separate but equal” laws seems like a problem to me. I’m not sure how to solve it without remaking our hearts. How do we accept our “opposite” as being the same as us, however we categorize ourselves? We should see each other, say, as separate pieces in a big box of chocolates, with a variety of colors and fillings, some more to our taste than others, perhaps, but all belonging and fitting in. We shouldn’t see some of us as chocolates and others as, say, crackers or cookies. We should all fit in the same box.

A Debate Over Identity and Race Asks, Are African-Americans ‘Black’ or ‘black’? - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/black-african-american-style-debate.html?campaign_id=2&emc=edit_th_20200627&instance_id=19814&nl=todaysheadlines&regi_id=58623110&segment_id=32012&user_id=025ec4a03ccfc15efcd68d00b480f13b)

meridian5850
06-29-2020, 08:33 AM
How about just American?

YouTube (https://youtu.be/Lw1oj7d0ab4?t=33)

ColdNoMore
06-29-2020, 08:34 AM
Perhaps because in our world of cultural diversity all blacks are not African nor American?

We have a winner! :thumbup:

Rzepecki
06-29-2020, 08:35 AM
It should just be American. That's what we should call ourselves.

Or, more specifically, U.S. citizens. Citizens of many countries are “Americans”.

When you come back over the border from Canada to the U.S., they won’t let you in if you answer “American” for citizenship.

ColdNoMore
06-29-2020, 08:37 AM
I called my grandfather "Grandpa" and he liked that term. It worked for both of us. But now that I am of that age I want my grandchildren to use a different term for me. My grandchildren may use grandpa with their other grandfather but they have learned that my preferred term differs. It is a sign of respect for my feelings that they use my preferred name. If at one time Black Americans wanted to be called colored because at least it was better than "n..r" then colored it is. If later they went to Negro as it made them more comfortable, then Negro it should be. If later this becomes African American then it behooves any reasonable person to switch to African American. If now it is Black, I don't see the problem.

What term people use within their own group is not automatically a term a non-member of the group is allowed to use. If I were Jewish and I called my friend Hymie boy or Kike that does not give you permission to use the term. Within a group the foul label being hurled by the oppressing non-member at it is often used to attempt to have it loose its power. Yankee Doodle was an major insult when used by the British. Even after its adoption by the Revolutionaries, it was still an insult when used by a British soldier.

Well said. :thumbup:

donfey
06-29-2020, 08:39 AM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

We should be AMERICANS first. Only then should ones cultural heritage or racial herritage matter in our (formerly successful) melting pot. Here's why, from a speech by...


Former President Theodore Roosevelt in speaking to the largely Irish Catholic Knights of Columbus at Carnegie Hall on Columbus Day 1915, asserted that,[5]

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all ... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic ... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

From: Hyphenated American - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphenated_American)

rmd2
06-29-2020, 08:56 AM
Forty years or people started using the term African American. A friend was a great dentist and a fine fellow was light tan and a native from Egypt. He was extremely offended by being included in the group.

Egypt is in Africa.

sloanst
06-29-2020, 09:00 AM
If we could only get past group identification and on to the character of the individual.

Jayhawk
06-29-2020, 09:01 AM
It should just be American. That's what we should call ourselves.

Or, here's a leap. How about just "people"?

coffeebean
06-29-2020, 09:13 AM
From the mouth of those in the know, (my teenage grandchild), not all blacks are from Africa, so the term is obsolete. See, they are learning something?

When the term "African American" was in vogue, not all blacks were from Africa. So what is changed now?

Byte1
06-29-2020, 09:21 AM
"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all ... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic ... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else."


EXCELLENT!...:BigApplause:

Byte1
06-29-2020, 09:23 AM
I remember when I was a kid, my folks used the term "colored people." Now, I hear the term "people of color." This is SOOOO confusing.

nevjudbaker
06-29-2020, 09:23 AM
It is because they say they are black. Hence BLM. We should stop calling people that black man or that white man just that man.

fastboat
06-29-2020, 10:05 AM
They are.

golfing eagles
06-29-2020, 10:10 AM
How about just American?

YouTube (https://youtu.be/Lw1oj7d0ab4?t=33)

Picture this:

A person has just robbed a convenience store at gunpoint and killed the cashier. A witness gives a description to the police. The perp is described as a white male, limiting the suspect pool to about 38% of the population. He is further described as over 70 years of age, white hair and a white beard. We're now down to 2-3% of the population. Was that description racist?, sexist?, age discriminatory? Now the police do not have to stop 20 year old clean shaven black men.

Now reverse the scenario, why would an equally accurate description be racist and sexist???? Imagine a person hunt where the only description was "American" or "a citizen" or "human".

theruizs
06-29-2020, 10:10 AM
Egypt is in Africa.

I have traveled to Egypt, and even though they are in Africa, they prefer to be refered to as Egyptian. I won’t go into the political and religious details of it all. We might be a bit different in that our religous beliefs are not as much a part of our ethinic identity here. And so, since we call ourselves American all the time, being called North American is not that big a deal to us. But I bet Egyptian-Americans would likely just prefer to be called Americans too.

MJY10101
06-29-2020, 10:20 AM
Perhaps it’s because they are not African but are American. Because of the state of racism in the world, the term black has been adopted by all.

Curtisbwp
06-29-2020, 10:24 AM
My grandparents hail from Kilkenny Ireland..i am an American. My grandparents are Irish Americans. My friend Enrico copolla has italian Americans parents but rico is 100% American. NEVER do we say we are Euripean Americans. I believe black Americans is the appropiate term. Ther are so many countries in Africa and such a muttled past that very few black Americans actually know what country they are from. Hensforth "black American" is the correct term to use.
Imo


Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

charlieo1126@gmail.com
06-29-2020, 10:34 AM
I was always a little surprised by the term African American because there was no use of European American. But, I think people should be allowed to chose whatever term they like to refer to themselves. My problem is with propaganda, if BLM is using Marxism or Communism as a model, then I have a real problem with that. but all across USA plenty of Polish, French , German Spanish American clubs . I could go get but you see my point. All people at sometime in life have found connections to there Mother Country so why not African Americans ? The people who are using PC to describe the the use of the words African American by African Americans makes this writer think they are part of the problem and not part of the solution ( see number 3 message also ) lol

Jim1mack
06-29-2020, 10:35 AM
Exactly.

fdpaq0580
06-29-2020, 10:49 AM
Picture this:

A person has just robbed a convenience store at gunpoint and killed the cashier. A witness gives a description to the police. The perp is described as a white male, limiting the suspect pool to about 38% of the population. He is further described as over 70 years of age, white hair and a white beard. We're now down to 2-3% of the population. Was that description racist?, sexist?, age discriminatory? Now the police do not have to stop 20 year old clean shaven black men.

Now reverse the scenario, why would an equally accurate description be racist and sexist???? Imagine a person hunt where the only description was "American" or "a citizen" or "human".

I tried, in an earlier post, to make this same point. When asked to describe an individual, for any reason, if we can't use descriptive terms (tall, short, thin, heavy, white, black), then there is no description. As for American, how do you know unless they show you their ID? Just because you can recognize that a difference in race, culture, gender, age exists doesn't automatically make one prejudiced. Those who think it does, are imHo, just might be prejudiced themselves.

Stay safe. Stay well. Peace!

manaboutown
06-29-2020, 10:55 AM
I like to keep things short and simple so I usually use white or black. The reality is that most folks throughout the Americas are of mixed ancestral heritage. It would be rare to find an American black who was 100% sub-Saharan African. Many whites I know have some American Indian DNA. My former wife was 28% American Indian. She is a New Mexico hispanic whose ancestors all immigrated into that area in the late 16th and early 17th century. The big surprise for her was she had a lot of Greek and Italian DNA.

Whenever I get a question about race on other than a medical history form I answer American whenever possible.

OrangeBlossomBaby
06-29-2020, 11:08 AM
Or, more specifically, U.S. citizens. Citizens of many countries are “Americans”.

When you come back over the border from Canada to the U.S., they won’t let you in if you answer “American” for citizenship.

This is an excellent point. If you are from Mexico, and in fact if you still live in Mexico, you are American.

You're Central American, but it still counts.

If you're from or born and still living in Bolivia, you are American. You're South American, but it still qualifies as "American."

If you're from/born and still in Canada, you are also American. North American. Just like US citizens are North American.

People in the USA tend to be pretty elitist when it comes to that. They think they are the ONLY America that matters, and therefore everyone else from any other part of America aren't American. But they are.

taruffi57
06-29-2020, 11:28 AM
Why can't they simply be Americans? It seems that they insist on dividing themselves from everyone else.

Phpb2
06-29-2020, 11:44 AM
As foolish as “American Americans!”

Jim1mack
06-29-2020, 11:47 AM
Homo Sapiens evolved in Africa. So aren’t we all Africans.

Jim1mack
06-29-2020, 12:07 PM
I was a middle school teacher for twelve years before I retired. Four years at an 'at risk school' and the other eight at an average school. Kids are kids are kids regardless of their ethnicity or color. I loved and cherished them all.

TooColdNJ
06-29-2020, 12:10 PM
Interesting how you inserted dots for an awful black slur, but thought nothing of just tossing in similarly despicable Jewish slurs as complete words. There's some irony here, too, as one of the terms you mentioned was used by prominent black Americans - Jesse Jackson, being one.

Oh, what am I saying...Jews never suffered in world history. It's not like millions of them were summarily executed - many after being forced into despicable conditions in slave labor camps. And it's not like many people still hold Jews in contempt. You know..."they control all the money", etc, or that there are actual countries that want to destroy Israel. Never mind. All's good.

Sarcasm is pretty hard to recognize. I wish people would state what they mean. Was
this serious, sarcastic, or passive aggressive?

Anywhere from 6 to 11 MILLION Jewish people were forced into despicable conditions and executed, and anti-semitism still DOES EXIST today, When the Pope, or whoever it was, told Christians that the Jews didn’t really kill Christ. It was similar to. .”jury please disregard the question/answer.” In a court of law. People believe what is taught and learned at home. Jews are to this day STILL held in contempt. Your last statement— that “Jews control all the money” just added another level of contempt I feel towards you. Were you the one with your fist in the air yelling White SUPREMACY??

FURTHERMORE, I feel that stores selling indoor and outdoor plants without their real names should remove the labels from WANDERING JEWS and label it with its real botanical name.

Denvercane
06-29-2020, 12:44 PM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

There are no such people. Jessie Jackson started this term years ago. You are black white Asian etc. Unless you want everyone to have a hypen in front of "American".

fdpaq0580
06-29-2020, 01:26 PM
Sarcasm is pretty hard to recognize. I wish people would state what they mean. Was
this serious, sarcastic, or passive aggressive?

Anywhere from 6 to 11 MILLION Jewish people were forced into despicable conditions and executed, and anti-semitism still DOES EXIST today, When the Pope, or whoever it was, told Christians that the Jews didn’t really kill Christ. It was similar to. .”jury please disregard the question/answer.” In a court of law. People believe what is taught and learned at home. Jews are to this day STILL held in contempt. Your last statement— that “Jews control all the money” just added another level of contempt I feel towards you. Were you the one with your fist in the air yelling White SUPREMACY??

FURTHERMORE, I feel that stores selling indoor and outdoor plants without their real names should remove the labels from WANDERING JEWS and label it with its real botanical name.


I'm pretty sure it is meant as sarcasm in an attempt to point out that there is plenty of prejudice to go around from all sides. No single group of people have a monopoly on prejudice or being the victim of prejudice. Injustice and prejudice goes back to human kinds earliest time. It comes in many forms, not just racial. Many people are exposed to it every day, but make the choice to " consider the source" as being unworthy of a response. They realize that prejudice and bigotry is the result of a closed mind that has been poorly socialized and educated. They go about their day and refuse to get sucked into a no win argument with a fool.
We see stereotypes every day and every where.
Did you ever watch "Tool Time" or "In Living Color"? I enjoyed those shows and others like them, and I liked them on many levels. By facing the stereotype they showed the silliness of prejudice and they took the sting out of it by trying to get us to look, really look at ourselves and to realize just how alike we all are. After all, we are all branches on the same family tree. And, because we are family, we need to learn how to live together.

Stay safe. Stay well. Keep up the dialog in the hopes we can all learn something. Peace!

GOLFER54
06-29-2020, 01:43 PM
African American ? If you are Black and born in America you are American. Not African American. There are no ties from Africa. I am Italian, not Italian American, just American.

manaboutown
06-29-2020, 01:53 PM
Homo Sapiens evolved in Africa. So aren’t we all Africans.

Homo sapiens originated and evolved in Africa. But over the last few hundred thousand years groups repeatedly left Africa and settled the rest of the planet. Over time each group evolved some of its own distinctive characteristics. Studies of DNA continue to be done and more is learned all the time.

Right now I am reading a fascinating book on this subject written by Charles Murray, "Human Diversity".

Barborv
06-29-2020, 02:05 PM
There are many people here in the US that are from the Islands and not from african decent. I might have more African in me then some black folks. My ancestry has african descent for me, which most people, especially Jewish people might have. Egypt is in Africa and many Jews came from there. I just wish people would see people for who they are and not what they are!

camaguey48
06-29-2020, 04:18 PM
It’s not “if.” It is.

davem4616
06-29-2020, 07:15 PM
apparently that term is now 'gone with the wind'

donassaid
06-29-2020, 08:06 PM
I choose to use the term black for two reasons. I don't believe in "hyphenated Americans". If you want to be called African, go back to Africa. Secondly, because few if any blacks today are of African descent. We are all AMERICANS. not Arab-Americans, not Italian-Americans, not Spanish -Amerucans, just Amerucans

DeanFL
06-29-2020, 08:27 PM
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copied DIRECTLY from the "Macmillan Dictionary"
offensive words for people according to nationality or ethnicity - synonyms and related words | Macmillan Dictionary (https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/thesaurus-category/american/offensive-words-for-people-according-to-nationality-or-ethnicity)

Offensive words for people according to nationality or ethnicity
RELATED WORDS (BTW MY favorite is the descrition of "Uncle Tom" below...)


black NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black person. This word is sometimes considered offensive, so you should be very careful about using it.

Canuck NOUN
AMERICANINFORMAL someone who is Canadian, especially French Canadian. This word is sometimes used as an insult.

colored NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black person

coloured
the British spelling of colored

Coloured NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE someone who has one parent or grandparent who is white and one who is not

coolie NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word used in the past for a worker with no special skills in China, India, and other parts of Asia

coon NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black person

cracker NOUN
AMERICAN an insulting word for a poor white person who lives in the southeastern U.S.

dago NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a person from Italy, Spain, Portugal, or South America

Eskimo NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a member of the Inuit people. This word is now sometimes considered offensive.

frog NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a French person

gipsy
a British spelling of gypsy

gook NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE a very offensive word for someone from Asia

goy NOUN
OFFENSIVE someone who is not Jewish

gringo NOUN
an insulting word used by some people from South America for someone from another country who speaks English, especially someone from the U.S.

gypsy NOUN
OFFENSIVE a Romany

half-breed NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a person who has parents of two different races, especially someone with one white parent and one Native American parent. A more polite expression is person of mixed race.

half-caste NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone who has parents of two different races. A more polite expression is person of mixed race.

haole NOUN
in Hawaiian English, a white person

honky NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a white person

Indian NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a Native American

Injun NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a Native American. You may see or hear this word, but do not use it.

Jerry NOUN
MAINLY BRITISHOFFENSIVEINFORMAL an insulting word for a German

jock NOUN
BRITISHOFFENSIVE an insulting word for someone from Scotland

kaffir NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE a black person

kafir NOUN
OFFENSIVE a word meaning “non-believer,” used by some Muslims to describe someone who is not a Muslim

Kraut NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a German

makwerekwere NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE a term used in South Africa for foreigners from the rest of Africa

mammy NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word sometimes used in the past for a black woman who took care of other people’s children, mainly in the southern U.S.

mick NOUN
BRITISHOFFENSIVE an insulting word for an Irish person

mulatto NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone who has one black parent and one white parent

native NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone belonging to a group who lived in a place before Europeans arrived there

negress NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black woman

negro NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black person. This word is now considered offensive but until the second half of the 20th century it was an accepted word, used by black people as well as white.

****** NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a black person

nonwhite ADJECTIVE
belonging to a race of people that does not have pale skin. This word is considered offensive when it is used to separate white from nonwhite people for political or economic reasons.

oriental NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED someone from eastern Asia, especially China or Japan. This word is now considered offensive.

Paddy NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for an Irish person

pakeha NOUN
NEW ZEALAND a white person in New Zealand, especially someone whose family originally came from Europe

paleface NOUN
OFFENSIVE a white person. This word is sometimes used as an insult by Native Americans.

pickaninny NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black child. This word is sometimes used by older white people but most people consider it offensive.

Polack NOUN
AMERICAN an insulting word for someone from Poland. The usual word is Pole.

pommy NOUN
AUSTRALIANINFORMAL a slightly insulting word for someone from the U.K., especially someone from England

primitive NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED someone from a primitive society. This word is now considered offensive.

Pygmy NOUN
a member of a people who are of less than average height. Most Pygmies live in Central Africa or Southeast Asia. This word is now sometimes considered offensive.

Red Indian NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a Native American. This word is now considered to be offensive.

redskin NOUN
OFFENSIVE a word used in the past to refer to a Native American, now regarded as very offensive

savage ADJECTIVE
OLD-FASHIONED an insulting way of describing someone or something from a culture that is not considered to be advanced. This is now considered offensive.

savage NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED an insulting word for someone from a culture that is not considered to be advanced. This is now considered offensive.

spade NOUN
OFFENSIVE a very offensive word for a black person

squaw NOUN
OFFENSIVE an old word for a Native American woman. This is now considered offensive.

Taffy NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for someone from Wales

Uncle Tom NOUN
an insulting word for a black person who the speaker thinks shows too much respect for white people. This word is used especially by other black people.

WASP NOUN
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant: a word for people who are white and have money, power, and opportunities that other people do not have

wetback NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone from Mexico who goes to live in the U.S.

whitey NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word for a white person

wog NOUN
OFFENSIVEBRITISH an extremely offensive word for a black person

wog NOUN
OFFENSIVEAUSTRALIAN an extremely offensive word for a person from a Mediterranean country

wop NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for an Italian person

Yank NOUN
IMPOLITE an insulting word for someone from the U.S.

Yankee NOUN
someone from the U.S.. This word is often used as an insulting word for referring to an American by people who are not from the U.S.

yid NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a Jewish person

Neils
06-30-2020, 12:35 AM
I was always a little surprised by the term African American because there was no use of European American. But, I think people should be allowed to chose whatever term they like to refer to themselves. My problem is with propaganda, if BLM is using Marxism or Communism as a model, then I have a real problem with that.

What is the IF Carl?? They are making their Marx every day.

Girlcopper
06-30-2020, 06:36 AM
Strange... I'd heard that "black" was in a list of offensive terms. Now what??
Just add it the list of other ridiculous things. Like.....Aunt Jemima syrup is racist......movie Gone with the Wind, racist.......uncle bens rice, racist. Some groups of people need to invest more time in educationg themselves in history rather than showing their illiteracy by ranting about things. Just an FYI.....Aunt Jemimas family is furious that the name is being discontinued. Jemima was a shining example of an educated black woman who started her own business and prospered. It should be an example of what can be accomplished....not labeled racist

CatskillBill
06-30-2020, 10:10 AM
Colored People on your list?

Founded in 1909 in response to the ongoing violence against Black people around the country, the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) is the largest and most pre-eminent civil rights organization in the nation.

What is their position on recent Black Lives Matter actions and all the murders in the major cities across America? Strangely silent.
I personally don't use the term "colored", for being called a racist by the PC police.

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copied DIRECTLY from the "Macmillan Dictionary"
offensive words for people according to nationality or ethnicity - synonyms and related words | Macmillan Dictionary (https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/thesaurus-category/american/offensive-words-for-people-according-to-nationality-or-ethnicity)

Offensive words for people according to nationality or ethnicity
RELATED WORDS (BTW MY favorite is the descrition of "Uncle Tom" below...)


black NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black person. This word is sometimes considered offensive, so you should be very careful about using it.

Canuck NOUN
AMERICANINFORMAL someone who is Canadian, especially French Canadian. This word is sometimes used as an insult.

colored NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black person

coloured
the British spelling of colored

Coloured NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE someone who has one parent or grandparent who is white and one who is not

coolie NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word used in the past for a worker with no special skills in China, India, and other parts of Asia

coon NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black person

cracker NOUN
AMERICAN an insulting word for a poor white person who lives in the southeastern U.S.

dago NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a person from Italy, Spain, Portugal, or South America

Eskimo NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a member of the Inuit people. This word is now sometimes considered offensive.

frog NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a French person

gipsy
a British spelling of gypsy

gook NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE a very offensive word for someone from Asia

goy NOUN
OFFENSIVE someone who is not Jewish

gringo NOUN
an insulting word used by some people from South America for someone from another country who speaks English, especially someone from the U.S.

gypsy NOUN
OFFENSIVE a Romany

half-breed NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a person who has parents of two different races, especially someone with one white parent and one Native American parent. A more polite expression is person of mixed race.

half-caste NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone who has parents of two different races. A more polite expression is person of mixed race.

haole NOUN
in Hawaiian English, a white person

honky NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a white person

Indian NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a Native American

Injun NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a Native American. You may see or hear this word, but do not use it.

Jerry NOUN
MAINLY BRITISHOFFENSIVEINFORMAL an insulting word for a German

jock NOUN
BRITISHOFFENSIVE an insulting word for someone from Scotland

kaffir NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE a black person

kafir NOUN
OFFENSIVE a word meaning “non-believer,” used by some Muslims to describe someone who is not a Muslim

Kraut NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a German

makwerekwere NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE a term used in South Africa for foreigners from the rest of Africa

mammy NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word sometimes used in the past for a black woman who took care of other people’s children, mainly in the southern U.S.

mick NOUN
BRITISHOFFENSIVE an insulting word for an Irish person

mulatto NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone who has one black parent and one white parent

native NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone belonging to a group who lived in a place before Europeans arrived there

negress NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black woman

negro NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black person. This word is now considered offensive but until the second half of the 20th century it was an accepted word, used by black people as well as white.

****** NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a black person

nonwhite ADJECTIVE
belonging to a race of people that does not have pale skin. This word is considered offensive when it is used to separate white from nonwhite people for political or economic reasons.

oriental NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED someone from eastern Asia, especially China or Japan. This word is now considered offensive.

Paddy NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for an Irish person

pakeha NOUN
NEW ZEALAND a white person in New Zealand, especially someone whose family originally came from Europe

paleface NOUN
OFFENSIVE a white person. This word is sometimes used as an insult by Native Americans.

pickaninny NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black child. This word is sometimes used by older white people but most people consider it offensive.

Polack NOUN
AMERICAN an insulting word for someone from Poland. The usual word is Pole.

pommy NOUN
AUSTRALIANINFORMAL a slightly insulting word for someone from the U.K., especially someone from England

primitive NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED someone from a primitive society. This word is now considered offensive.

Pygmy NOUN
a member of a people who are of less than average height. Most Pygmies live in Central Africa or Southeast Asia. This word is now sometimes considered offensive.

Red Indian NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a Native American. This word is now considered to be offensive.

redskin NOUN
OFFENSIVE a word used in the past to refer to a Native American, now regarded as very offensive

savage ADJECTIVE
OLD-FASHIONED an insulting way of describing someone or something from a culture that is not considered to be advanced. This is now considered offensive.

savage NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED an insulting word for someone from a culture that is not considered to be advanced. This is now considered offensive.

spade NOUN
OFFENSIVE a very offensive word for a black person

squaw NOUN
OFFENSIVE an old word for a Native American woman. This is now considered offensive.

Taffy NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for someone from Wales

Uncle Tom NOUN
an insulting word for a black person who the speaker thinks shows too much respect for white people. This word is used especially by other black people.

WASP NOUN
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant: a word for people who are white and have money, power, and opportunities that other people do not have

wetback NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone from Mexico who goes to live in the U.S.

whitey NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word for a white person

wog NOUN
OFFENSIVEBRITISH an extremely offensive word for a black person

wog NOUN
OFFENSIVEAUSTRALIAN an extremely offensive word for a person from a Mediterranean country

wop NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for an Italian person

Yank NOUN
IMPOLITE an insulting word for someone from the U.S.

Yankee NOUN
someone from the U.S.. This word is often used as an insulting word for referring to an American by people who are not from the U.S.

yid NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a Jewish person

golfing eagles
06-30-2020, 12:07 PM
TY for post #77. I now know how to offend just about everyone on the planet :1rotfl:

MandoMan
06-30-2020, 12:57 PM
I choose to use the term black for two reasons. I don't believe in "hyphenated Americans". If you want to be called African, go back to Africa. Secondly, because few if any blacks today are of African descent. We are all AMERICANS. not Arab-Americans, not Italian-Americans, not Spanish -Amerucans, just Amerucans

“Descent” means “ancestors from,” not “born in”! Most people have descent from many countries. I’m of Danish descent because my great-great grandfather moved here from there in 1867. But I’m not Danish. I’m of Norwegian descent because my great-grandmother was born there about 1874. But I’m not Norwegian. I’m of African descent because two of my great-grandparents had mothers who had a European father and an African mother. But I’m not African. I’m an American. 90% European-American. Does that help?

Byte1
06-30-2020, 02:41 PM
Since "redneck" is not listed, does that mean that it is not an OFFENSIVE term? And I have never found "Yank" or "Yankee" to be offensive. Is it meant to be a slur? Funny, when I was living overseas I had friends that called me "Yank." They seemed sincere in their friendship. They also used the term "boyo"

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offensive words for people according to nationality or ethnicity - synonyms and related words | Macmillan Dictionary (https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/thesaurus-category/american/offensive-words-for-people-according-to-nationality-or-ethnicity)

Offensive words for people according to nationality or ethnicity
RELATED WORDS (BTW MY favorite is the descrition of "Uncle Tom" below...)


black NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black person. This word is sometimes considered offensive, so you should be very careful about using it.

Canuck NOUN
AMERICANINFORMAL someone who is Canadian, especially French Canadian. This word is sometimes used as an insult.

colored NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black person

coloured
the British spelling of colored

Coloured NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE someone who has one parent or grandparent who is white and one who is not

coolie NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word used in the past for a worker with no special skills in China, India, and other parts of Asia

coon NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black person

cracker NOUN
AMERICAN an insulting word for a poor white person who lives in the southeastern U.S.

dago NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a person from Italy, Spain, Portugal, or South America

Eskimo NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a member of the Inuit people. This word is now sometimes considered offensive.

frog NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a French person

gipsy
a British spelling of gypsy

gook NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE a very offensive word for someone from Asia

goy NOUN
OFFENSIVE someone who is not Jewish

gringo NOUN
an insulting word used by some people from South America for someone from another country who speaks English, especially someone from the U.S.

gypsy NOUN
OFFENSIVE a Romany

half-breed NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a person who has parents of two different races, especially someone with one white parent and one Native American parent. A more polite expression is person of mixed race.

half-caste NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone who has parents of two different races. A more polite expression is person of mixed race.

haole NOUN
in Hawaiian English, a white person

honky NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a white person

Indian NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a Native American

Injun NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a Native American. You may see or hear this word, but do not use it.

Jerry NOUN
MAINLY BRITISHOFFENSIVEINFORMAL an insulting word for a German

jock NOUN
BRITISHOFFENSIVE an insulting word for someone from Scotland

kaffir NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE a black person

kafir NOUN
OFFENSIVE a word meaning “non-believer,” used by some Muslims to describe someone who is not a Muslim

Kraut NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for a German

makwerekwere NOUN
SOUTH AFRICANOFFENSIVE a term used in South Africa for foreigners from the rest of Africa

mammy NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word sometimes used in the past for a black woman who took care of other people’s children, mainly in the southern U.S.

mick NOUN
BRITISHOFFENSIVE an insulting word for an Irish person

mulatto NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone who has one black parent and one white parent

native NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone belonging to a group who lived in a place before Europeans arrived there

negress NOUN
OFFENSIVE an offensive word for a black woman

negro NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black person. This word is now considered offensive but until the second half of the 20th century it was an accepted word, used by black people as well as white.

****** NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a black person

nonwhite ADJECTIVE
belonging to a race of people that does not have pale skin. This word is considered offensive when it is used to separate white from nonwhite people for political or economic reasons.

oriental NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED someone from eastern Asia, especially China or Japan. This word is now considered offensive.

Paddy NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for an Irish person

pakeha NOUN
NEW ZEALAND a white person in New Zealand, especially someone whose family originally came from Europe

paleface NOUN
OFFENSIVE a white person. This word is sometimes used as an insult by Native Americans.

pickaninny NOUN
OFFENSIVE a black child. This word is sometimes used by older white people but most people consider it offensive.

Polack NOUN
AMERICAN an insulting word for someone from Poland. The usual word is Pole.

pommy NOUN
AUSTRALIANINFORMAL a slightly insulting word for someone from the U.K., especially someone from England

primitive NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED someone from a primitive society. This word is now considered offensive.

Pygmy NOUN
a member of a people who are of less than average height. Most Pygmies live in Central Africa or Southeast Asia. This word is now sometimes considered offensive.

Red Indian NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED a Native American. This word is now considered to be offensive.

redskin NOUN
OFFENSIVE a word used in the past to refer to a Native American, now regarded as very offensive

savage ADJECTIVE
OLD-FASHIONED an insulting way of describing someone or something from a culture that is not considered to be advanced. This is now considered offensive.

savage NOUN
OLD-FASHIONED an insulting word for someone from a culture that is not considered to be advanced. This is now considered offensive.

spade NOUN
OFFENSIVE a very offensive word for a black person

squaw NOUN
OFFENSIVE an old word for a Native American woman. This is now considered offensive.

Taffy NOUN
OFFENSIVE an insulting word for someone from Wales

Uncle Tom NOUN
an insulting word for a black person who the speaker thinks shows too much respect for white people. This word is used especially by other black people.

WASP NOUN
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant: a word for people who are white and have money, power, and opportunities that other people do not have

wetback NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word for someone from Mexico who goes to live in the U.S.

whitey NOUN
AMERICANOFFENSIVE an offensive word for a white person

wog NOUN
OFFENSIVEBRITISH an extremely offensive word for a black person

wog NOUN
OFFENSIVEAUSTRALIAN an extremely offensive word for a person from a Mediterranean country

wop NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for an Italian person

Yank NOUN
IMPOLITE an insulting word for someone from the U.S.

Yankee NOUN
someone from the U.S.. This word is often used as an insulting word for referring to an American by people who are not from the U.S.

yid NOUN
OFFENSIVE an extremely offensive word for a Jewish person

Velvet
06-30-2020, 03:38 PM
I think any term can be offensive. It depends on how you use it, tone, body language etc. even the cat understands me when I want to be offensive.
Of course in writing it is different, it would depend on the context and who uses it.

When one tries to offend someone or vice versa, when one tries to make someone feel guilty, my experience has usually been that Newton’s law applies to people as well as things:

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The statement means that in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object.

davem4616
06-30-2020, 05:52 PM
just maybe we should all refer to ourselves as Americans or US citizens and not this stuff about where your ancestors came from
....

Oh my gosh, that just might begin to bring us back together as one nation.....just saying

aletarw
07-01-2020, 07:58 AM
I am pleasantly surprised to see a civil discussion about what could be considered an inflammatory topic.

Thank you to all...

watavunfl
07-29-2020, 02:38 PM
My only comment is not all back people are African. Just think, we the white folk have never been subjected to the same treatment as people of color. I grew up in Florida where blacks went to the movies using the fire escape to get to the third level not accessible by any other level. My drug store soda fountain would not allow blacks past the cash register. "White only"water fountains and bathrooms. Year 1960. You fill in the blanks.

LoisR
07-30-2020, 05:19 PM
Thank you for your sensitivity and willingness in asking the question. First of all, the term is Black, not black. Secondly, why should it bother you? You don't own them. How's your inference skill?

WoodshopMark
07-30-2020, 11:07 PM
Please refer to me as WoodshopMark. The species of tree does not matter.

CatskillBill
07-31-2020, 01:55 AM
I guess saying colored people is OK in this crazy PC world we live in since the NAACP hasn't been forced to change it's name yet.

I have a black friend that proudly wears his NAACP tee shirt, and he is as liberal as they come.

Isn't it strange that we haven't heard a peep from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People condemning these riots and all the skyrocketing murders in the big cities. I guess they're afraid to infringe on the spotlight of the BLM radicals?



I remember when I was a kid, my folks used the term "colored people." Now, I hear the term "people of color." This is SOOOO confusing.

mrf6969
07-31-2020, 04:18 AM
sorta started in 2003? when former NJ Democratic governor, James McGreevy announced on television, with his wife aside him, “the truth is that I am a gay American”. Wife was shocked, shamed but then hired a divorce attorney to sue his butt. McGreevey then resigned and got a job advocating gay rights.
Maybe Villagers should declare themselves “hirsute- Americans”, “snow-capped Americans”, “dysmorphic-Americans” or “thirsty-Americans”. Thoughts?I'm going with "Hard working successful American"

chet2020
07-31-2020, 10:29 AM
Not all people of color want to be identified with being African American (people from Caribbean nations, for example). Therefore the term Black is making a comeback. The NY Times and Associated Press recently updated their stylebooks to capitalize Black when used as a description of people of color, and most other media groups are following suit (ESPN, my local paper, etc.). African American is also still acceptable.

ruralgoddess
08-02-2020, 05:01 AM
Why do we need terms to distinguish any group of people by ethnicity?
maybe because people are proud of their ethnicity? What a boring world it would be if we were all "the same." We aren't... I'm proud of my ethic background, warts and all. I'm of German , Irish and English roots and consider them part of my American identity.

Bay Kid
08-02-2020, 06:57 AM
Brown, black, white is just a skin color. You are either an American, or you are not.

coffeebean
08-02-2020, 09:25 AM
Brown, black, white is just a skin color. You are either an American, or you are not.

Skin color is an identifying factor if one had to give a description of a perpetrator to law enforcement. It is just not very helpful to say, "He/she looked like an American". It is much more helpful to describe the person, including skin color.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-02-2020, 07:00 PM
Skin color is an identifying factor if one had to give a description of a perpetrator to law enforcement. It is just not very helpful to say, "He/she looked like an American". It is much more helpful to describe the person, including skin color.

Or even if you're a waitress at a restaurant and the hostess comes to where you're standing and tells you "a guy at that table for 6 wants a fresh cup of coffee" and you ask "which guy?"

If he's the only black guy at the table, that'll be the quickest, easiest possible way to identify him.

Just like if there's a full table and only one diner is sitting in a wheelchair, you can say "the one in the wheelchair."

You're not giving them a label. You're just describing them to someone who needs to know which person you're talking about.

coffeebean
08-03-2020, 05:55 AM
Or even if you're a waitress at a restaurant and the hostess comes to where you're standing and tells you "a guy at that table for 6 wants a fresh cup of coffee" and you ask "which guy?"

If he's the only black guy at the table, that'll be the quickest, easiest possible way to identify him.

Just like if there's a full table and only one diner is sitting in a wheelchair, you can say "the one in the wheelchair."

You're not giving them a label. You're just describing them to someone who needs to know which person you're talking about.

Exactly my point.

Bay Kid
08-03-2020, 06:49 AM
Or even if you're a waitress at a restaurant and the hostess comes to where you're standing and tells you "a guy at that table for 6 wants a fresh cup of coffee" and you ask "which guy?"

If he's the only black guy at the table, that'll be the quickest, easiest possible way to identify him.

Just like if there's a full table and only one diner is sitting in a wheelchair, you can say "the one in the wheelchair."

You're not giving them a label. You're just describing them to someone who needs to know which person you're talking about.

Good point. Mine was a generalization. Could be that old white at the end of the table!

Rapscallion St Croix
08-03-2020, 11:13 AM
Brown, black, white is just a skin color. You are either an American, or you are not.

You are assuming that "Black" is strictly a denotative term. It is, however, more often a connotative one. It is not just a skin color, it is a culture.

Bucco
08-03-2020, 12:45 PM
You are assuming that "Black" is strictly a denotative term. It is, however, more often a connotative one. It is not just a skin color, it is a culture.

This thread reminds me of past years when "Italian Americans" were the bad guys, killing robbing and whatever could be blamed on them. They have moved on to bigger and better things. Business owners etc.

Then we had the "Polish Americans" who were all considered "not bright" but who today have moved well up the ladder in the business, scientific and medical fields.

Just two of many (One From Many is our motto, right).

All had names attached which many of us recall..

One advantage.....they had white skin. THAT is a big advantage.

I also recall a book I read while in the Navy which impressed me and really made me think and re evaluate my way of thinking. "BLACK LIKE ME"

Black Like Me - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me)

The Italians, the Polish, all hated for a time among many other ethnic groups.

Sure glad social media didnt exist or the hatred would have grown

MandoMan
08-03-2020, 04:58 PM
Every single post on this forum I read about our current events and the protestors speak of "blacks" and not once have I read the term "African Americans". Seems to me that PC term has gone by the wayside. Is this because the BLM movement has sort of wiped out the PC terminology?

Also....must say I have not seen that PC term "African American" in news print, on line or stated in news broadcasts. They are referred to as "black"!

I’ve never seen a person who is actually black or white. We all seem to range somewhere between pinkish-tan to dark brown. I think that insisting on being white or black is at the heart of what separates us. It means “I am MORE SO than is even possible!” “I’m not just pink-tan, but white as a snow.” “I’m not just light brown, but black as soot, so you can’t possibly understand me.” There’s a lot less difference between tan and light brown than between black and white. I’d like to stop noticing color first when I see people. That’s not good.

I’m okay with African-American. However, it doesn’t include any people From Africa or people of African descent not born in the U.S. and descendants of American slaves. It’s a way of not giving benefits to, say, Jamaicans or Haitians. It excludes them. However, I usually refer to myself as European-American, not “white”. Certainly not as “Caucasian,” whatever that means. Want to discombobulate African-Americans? Insist that they NOT call you white, but European-American. Insist that you are also a Person of Color, because pinkish-tan is a color. (Person of Color is an attempt to join together people who otherwise have little in common in enmity against those who are “colorless”.)

You’ve probably noticed that whatever we call people, there are usually ways of saying it that give people dignity and ways of saying it so it sounds like a curse word. I think making people feel good about themselves is a good idea, whatever I call them. (Unless they are destroying property or hurting people, in which case I have no interest in making them feel good about themselves.)

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-03-2020, 05:32 PM
This thread reminds me of past years when "Italian Americans" were the bad guys, killing robbing and whatever could be blamed on them. They have moved on to bigger and better things. Business owners etc.

Then we had the "Polish Americans" who were all considered "not bright" but who today have moved well up the ladder in the business, scientific and medical fields.

Just two of many (One From Many is our motto, right).

All had names attached which many of us recall..

One advantage.....they had white skin. THAT is a big advantage.

I also recall a book I read while in the Navy which impressed me and really made me think and re evaluate my way of thinking. "BLACK LIKE ME"

Black Like Me - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me)

The Italians, the Polish, all hated for a time among many other ethnic groups.

Sure glad social media didnt exist or the hatred would have grown

Love love love that book. I read it in the 1980's and still have my copy. I posted about it - not sure if it was here or on Facebook, or maybe on another forum I participate in, recommending it to someone.

tvbound
08-03-2020, 08:17 PM
Love love love that book. I read it in the 1980's and still have my copy. I posted about it - not sure if it was here or on Facebook, or maybe on another forum I participate in, recommending it to someone.


"Love love love that book."


Same here. I even made my children read it and then we discussed it when each of them were done reading it. It's one of many books, that I believe should be mandatory reading and discussed in grade school, so that a larger part of our current population, who prefer to keep their head in the sand, will be vastly outnumbered in the very near future.

Bucco
08-03-2020, 08:27 PM
"Love love love that book."


Same here. I even made my children read it and then we discussed it when each of them were done reading it. It's one of many books, that I believe should be mandatory reading and discussed in grade school, so that a larger part of our current population, who prefer to keep their head in the sand, will be vastly outnumbered in the very near future.

As I said, that book was instrumental in my change of viewpoint, and at the right age where I was able to meet, understand and experience. Was the first "non sleazy detectiv" book I think I read and it stuck with me.

As I said to another poster....listening is a skill set, and that book made me temper my big mouth and start to listen, and look into things before deciding.

Dahabs
08-04-2020, 05:32 AM
I was always a little surprised by the term African American because there was no use of European American. But, I think people should be allowed to chose whatever term they like to refer to themselves. My problem is with propaganda, if BLM is using Marxism or Communism as a model, then I have a real problem with that.

I have repeatedly read criticism of the BLM as being a "Marxist" based group. I googled the issue and learned that while two of the founders are self professed Marxist, the movement's belief as outlined on its website aren't necessarily Marxist. Their goals are not anti-capitalist while Marxism certainly is. TMI?

Just a moment... (https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/)

Dahabs
08-04-2020, 06:01 AM
A better question is why we used terms like -American to begin with. To my knowledge, no other country uses terms like that, other than French Canadian.

Long history there as well. Humans have had trouble accepting let alone embracing those that are perceived as different from them since the beginning of time. Tribalism perhaps?

Dahabs
08-04-2020, 06:19 AM
This thread reminds me of past years when "Italian Americans" were the bad guys, killing robbing and whatever could be blamed on them. They have moved on to bigger and better things. Business owners etc.

Then we had the "Polish Americans" who were all considered "not bright" but who today have moved well up the ladder in the business, scientific and medical fields.

Just two of many (One From Many is our motto, right).

All had names attached which many of us recall..

One advantage.....they had white skin. THAT is a big advantage.

I also recall a book I read while in the Navy which impressed me and really made me think and re evaluate my way of thinking. "BLACK LIKE ME"

Black Like Me - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me)

The Italians, the Polish, all hated for a time among many other ethnic groups.

Sure glad social media didnt exist or the hatred would have grown

Excellent point! Too many refuse to reevaluate their beliefs, reassess. Do we actually think we have it completely figured it out? That that additional piece of knowledge might not appropriately alter our way of thinking?