Florida Sheriff will deputize all "lawful gun owners"

[TexaninVA]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480561/Florida-sheriff-deputize-lawful-gun-owners-confront-lawlessness-violent-protests.html)

[fdpaq0580]

Judging only from the post and picture (did not go to the story), seems like a sheriff that cares about the safety and security of the citizens under his protection. The picture shows me an officer and gentleman with a great smile. Someone I would probably like if I ever met him.
As to the .54 on the hip, unless you're pretty big, you might walk a little lopsided. Oh, and let me know if you're going to shoot. I want to put my fingers in my ears cause them things go BANG real loud.

Stay safe. Stay well. Peace!

[Soxman]

Thank you Mr. Daniels. A man doing his job and a man who cares about citizens. Stay safe out there.

[mtdjed]

Perhaps he wouldn't want some of us. He'd have a Posse of Barney Fifes. More self inflicted wounds than anything else. But no mass shootings since we would only have one bullet each.

[John41]

sheriff of Polk county said a similar thing. and that threat will keep the cowardly rioters away.

[Get real]

Political stunt. That knuckle head is under investigation by FDLE. Dope.

[Stu from NYC]

Glad he thinks his people should be protected.

[anothersteve]

Political stunt. That knuckle head is under investigation by FDLE. Dope.

True, we'll see what happens

Criminal investigation into Clay County Sheriff's dealings now in hands of prosecutors | firstcoastnews.com (https://www-firstcoastnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.firstcoastnews.com/amp/article/news/local/investigation-of-clay-county-sheriff-nears-conclusion/77-c80918a2-fdba-4ab5-b887-dc7d63abec40?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15936562279501&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.firstcoastnews.com%2Far ticle%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Finvestigation-of-clay-county-sheriff-nears-conclusion%2F77-c80918a2-fdba-4ab5-b887-dc7d63abec40)

[TexaninVA]

Perhaps he wouldn't want some of us. He'd have a Posse of Barney Fifes. More self inflicted wounds than anything else. But no mass shootings since we would only have one bullet each.

Agreed ... best if those you mention self-select out and let the rest of us take care of it

[tvbound]

Political stunt. That knuckle head is under investigation by FDLE. Dope.

"Daniels also is under investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, or FDLE, after his former employer, the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office, announced last year that he'd had an affair with a co-worker when he was running its jails.

Daniels, who is married, was accused of later having the woman falsely arrested."



Having affair with a co-woker while being married is one thing, but then having the girlfriend falsely arrested?


That's just COLD. LOL

[LoisR]

Nuts. Real men don't need guns. They need a healthy ego.

[camaguey48]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480561/Florida-sheriff-deputize-lawful-gun-owners-confront-lawlessness-violent-protests.html)
No. Keep your finger off the trigger.

[GaryKoca]

Looks like we are back to the Old West of the late 1800's. I thought we were better than that as a country, but I guess not. Maybe they can have another gunfight at the O.K. Corral. Where are Henry Fonda and Burt Lancaster when we need them?

[LG999]

That's great! He is a smart man.

[lwmilo]

.54 caliber???? Possibly .45, Just asking???

[Girlcopper]

sheriff of Polk county said a similar thing. and that threat will keep the cowardly rioters away.
Yep, smart sheriffs. The cowards only riot and loot in areas where people run for cover and give them full reign. None of them have the guts to stand up when confronted. Its still amazing to me when I see violent riots and when one of them gets hurt, everyone is screaming, “call 911”. Morons.

[greenflash245]

back to the Wild West

[dewilson58]

.54 caliber???? Possibly .45, Just asking???




A .45 & a 9mm

[jedalton]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480561/Florida-sheriff-deputize-lawful-gun-owners-confront-lawlessness-violent-protests.html)exactly

[coconutmama]

Perhaps he wouldn't want some of us. He'd have a Posse of Barney Fifes. More self inflicted wounds than anything else. But no mass shootings since we would only have one bullet each.

😂 Thanks for the laugh. Sure need it these days!

But seriously, we do not need procedurally untrained vigilantes out there. Imagine the lawsuits. Do I hear “call Dan Newlin”?

[Jeanette.U]

Back to the Wild West

[New Englander]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480561/Florida-sheriff-deputize-lawful-gun-owners-confront-lawlessness-violent-protests.html)

My kind of Sheriff! :bigbow:

[kimgarwel12@gmail.com]

Saddle up, pardners!! Let's go get 'em......and my hubby'll and his ilk will be leadin' the pack!!! These old ex-military guys are itchin' to put an end to this crapola!

[dewilson58]

Please show me statistically police racial bias. You can’t because it doesn’t exist. However, it exists in the media and they intentionally promote that narrative.


Facts don't fit agenda's...........facts jus get in the way.

[anothersteve]

.54 caliber???? Possibly .45, Just asking???

.454 Casull?

Steve

[Manhoopty]

Get real.

[Joe C.]

Waiting to be deputized. I need something to do.

[Mohawksin]

Political stunt. That knuckle head is under investigation by FDLE. Dope.

Please provide source.

[billethkid]

Most anti gunners view of guns and their owners is limited to what they see in the movies or their favorite biased news source.

They have no idea about the average responsible gun owner.

The experience they have. The rules by which they live for safety first.
The millions of responsible gun owners shooting millions and millions of rounds daily/weekly/monthly.....without incident.

Nahh....I forgot the anti gunners would not want to know about that.

Instead they prefer to paint the picture of a lawless bunch of old farts who have no idea what they are doing.

In the event of an emergency requiring lawful gun owners to respond the anti gunners will be damn glad we are here......in silence of course.

Funny how the message of the sheriff was glossed over, by some, to be replaced on an attack on his character.

[newgirl]

Terrifying!

[anothersteve]

Terrifying!

Look to YouTube and search "home invasions"...
Then come back and tell me what's "terrifying". Some of the most violent crimes imaginable.

Steve

[newgirl]

No, it only takes 1 crazy old fart who is giving the legal status to kill that would make the others regret getting involved. Not to mention liability.. the lawsuits .. insane idea

[mp.scanland]

.54 caliber???? Possibly .45, Just asking???

There is a .54 caliber flintlock pistol

[Scorpyo]

i cant wait to ware my 54 on my hips
I'm hoping you were correct and that you own a .54 cal muzzleloader. However, if you meant .45 then that concerns me because it may be a case of Dyslexia. I wouldn't want you erroneously reversing the position of the barrel. I strongly suggest we leave our guns at home, including my 10, and hire a bunch of social workers to protect us.

[John_W]

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The home invasion in The Villages when the Village of LaBelle was new, never heard all the facts or any conclusion, or even if the perpetrators were caught. It was August 2016 in Harlow Villas, a 64 year old woman answered the door, two fellas in dress clothes and ties and one holding a clipboard rushed in. They took her dog to the garage and killed it and stole some things, one being a gun which they knew exactly where the gun was kept. This made me think they had been there before and maybe were workers on a job. Which is why it's always good to be careful about the contractors you hire. There is still a ten page thread on this website, no news clippings anymore. I was wondering it was ever resolved.

I looked back at the thread, and I made a comment that the newly installed cameras at LaBelle gate would be useful in catching them, and someone posted that you can get into LaBelle without going through the gate, but they never said how. I have golfing friend that lives in LaBelle and from I see, the gate is the only way to get a car into LaBelle, unless you drive across a golf course.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/awful-home-invasion-205218/

Now, that I look up this story, LaBelle has had it's share of problems. In July of 2018 it was where the LaBelle CC bandit was holdup at his girlfriend's parents home, and the Sumter Deputies used a tank to bust open the window and then perpetrator took off in a car through the closed garage door, and eventually was caught on Micro-Racetrack Rd. This just goes to show, violent crime can happen anywhere.

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[donassaid]

I guess the Rev. Jeremiah Wright would call that the "chickens coming home to roost". My heart breaks for her.

[LowOnCash]

Well if the citizens don't do nothing the Villages will just become another CHOP zone. We,ve all see where they are charging a home owners who protect Their own life and property.

[cherylncliff]

A yearlong investigation of Clay County Sheriff Darryl Daniels may be drawing to a close.

First Coast News has learned from multiple law enforcement sources that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement has completed its initial report into misconduct allegations against Clay's top cop. The report is now in the possession of the 4th District State Attorney’s Office, which must review and make recommendations, an FDLE spokesperson confirmed.

[Tsmart]

AR 15 is not an assault rifle. It is a defense rifle.

[Bill32]

When bad men come to your door.......and there is none to call......

[Danz654]

Sure they didn’t mean 45

[Snowprint]

Since the police are in charge of the statistics, it’s not a valid argument, and statistics are not an excuse for refusing to see the obvious. I think the Beatles said it best “...living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see...”

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I have mixed thoughts of humor and fear thinking of lots of villages deputies taking about 5 minutes to get out of there golf cart then another 5 minutes to pull up there shorts and gun belt , during which time the perp has slowly walked away , over a 40 year period in 23 countries that were not very nice I used a gun, haven’t had one since I retired, at 81 I still go to Miami Beach in winter for a few months, walk everywhere, I still shoot dice in a couple of illegal dice games one in a black neighborhood in Orlando and I’m in my 5th home in villages and have never locked the door . Guns ???? Please leave them to professionals that can handle the adrenaline surge when your pointing it at a real person

[Jacob85]

Wow! So we are allowing untrained citizens to go out and maybe shoot someone they THINK is doing something? Even the police don’t always get it right. Are we going back to the wild, Wild West? I don’t think this is what our forefathers had in mind

[Jacob85]

So you need to fire a weapon that shoots multiple bullets To take care of an intruder? Let’s hope people don’t shoot their family members

[Joe V.]

Carthage must be destroyed"- Cato the Elder

If he had lived a few more years he would have seen his wish come true.

[billethkid]

How about a more realistic example to demonstrate the intent of the deputizing?

Half a dozen protestors are carrying torches up your drive way....are banging on the garage door and front door for you to open up or they are gonna burn your house down.

That is what is being discussed. Not shooting wildly at nothing for no reason...by incompetent aging residents.

When we, competent, trained, licensed gun owners, are discussing taking up arms it is for life threatening situations....not some derogatory anecdotal fluff.

[BlackhawksFan]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480561/Florida-sheriff-deputize-lawful-gun-owners-confront-lawlessness-violent-protests.html)

This woman in Michigan was most likely a "lawful gun owner" until the other day when she did this. She now faces multiple felonies.

Twitter (https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1278519087539331072?s=19)

[bobcat75]

I like the way he thinks, as far as his personal life I don't think it has anything to do with protecting citizens under his care

[billethkid]

This woman in Michigan was most likely a "lawful gun owner" until the other day when she did this. She now faces multiple felonies.

Twitter (https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1278519087539331072?s=19)

A clip out of context.
Actually looks more like a set up/acted out video.
Very poorly done at that.

[asianthree]

Perhaps he wouldn't want some of us. He'd have a Posse of Barney Fifes. More self inflicted wounds than anything else. But no mass shootings since we would only have one bullet each.

Not to worry there are many in TV who carried a gun and had to use it to protect.

[OhioBuckeye]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480561/Florida-sheriff-deputize-lawful-gun-owners-confront-lawlessness-violent-protests.html)

Sounds good but deputizing so-called lawful gun owners is pretty scary. What do some lawful citizens consider breaking the law or committing a crime. I’ve owned guns for 60 yrs. & what some gun owners think breaking the law is & being able to protect property, then shooting someone, I’m almost sure some of these unstable gun owners would start another protest! But then again it might be a good idea, even some nut case would think twice!

[billethkid]

Sounds good but letting but deputizing so-called lawful gun owners is pretty scary. What do some lawful citizens consider breaking the law or committing. I’ve owned guns for 60 yrs. & what some gun owners think breaking the law is & being able to protect property, then shooting someone, I’m almost sure some of these unstable gun owners would start another protest! But then again even some nut case would think twice!

My post 62 bears repeating:

How about a more realistic example to demonstrate the intent of the deputizing?

Half a dozen protestors are carrying torches up your drive way....are banging on the garage door and front door for you to open up or they are gonna burn your house down.

That is what is being discussed. Not shooting wildly at nothing for no reason...by incompetent aging residents.

When we, competent, trained, licensed gun owners, are discussing taking up arms it is for life threatening situations....not some derogatory anecdotal fluff.

[Marty94]

I’m moving to Clay County!!

[Scorpyo]

Most anti gunners view of guns and their owners is limited to what they see in the movies or their favorite biased news source.

They have no idea about the average responsible gun owner.

The experience they have. The rules by which they live for safety first.
The millions of responsible gun owners shooting millions and millions of rounds daily/weekly/monthly.....without incident.

Nahh....I forgot the anti gunners would not want to know about that.

Instead they prefer to paint the picture of a lawless bunch of old farts who have no idea what they are doing.

In the event of an emergency requiring lawful gun owners to respond the anti gunners will be damn glad we are here......in silence of course.

Funny how the message of the sheriff was glossed over, by some, to be replaced on an attack on his character.
Who you callin old fart? Meet me at Cody's Corral at high noon. Or is it high at Cody's at noon? Damn I need a nap.

[Skoego]

FDLE launches criminal investigation into dealings of Sheriff Darryl Daniels, Clay County Sheriff'''s Office | firstcoastnews.com (https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/fdle-launches-criminal-investigation-into-the-dealings-of-sheriff-daryl-daniels-clay-county-sheriffs-office/77-780ae802-a912-4135-9bb4-9f4a8426ad03)

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I guess the Rev. Jeremiah Wright would call that the "chickens coming home to roost". My heart breaks for her. using that quotation, in a political context Wright was not the man who made that statement famous, it was Malcom x , when asked about how he felt about Kennedy death he made the statement about chickens coming home to roost everyone was mad about it but Malcom though bluntly spoke the truth we had just conspired in the killing of the elected president of South Vietnam , I was in Saigon at the time , the 2 acts were not connected but in gone by times it was never good to kill a king because his people would try to kill your king , but maybe it’s just bad luck also to kill a king ( put president if you like)

[forebubba]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480561/Florida-sheriff-deputize-lawful-gun-owners-confront-lawlessness-violent-protests.html)
I would feel real safe with all the knucleheads out there carry guns. Remember Georgia killing a jogger they thought was a looter.

[ffresh]

Nuts. Real men don't need guns. They need a healthy ego.

Yeah, imagine meeting a gang of thugs at night while walking to the parking lot with your family. All you'll need is a healthy ego :1rotfl:


Fred

[ffresh]

Most anti gunners view of guns and their owners is limited to what they see in the movies or their favorite biased news source.

They have no idea about the average responsible gun owner.

The experience they have. The rules by which they live for safety first.
The millions of responsible gun owners shooting millions and millions of rounds daily/weekly/monthly.....without incident.

Nahh....I forgot the anti gunners would not want to know about that.

Instead they prefer to paint the picture of a lawless bunch of old farts who have no idea what they are doing.

In the event of an emergency requiring lawful gun owners to respond the anti gunners will be damn glad we are here......in silence of course.

Funny how the message of the sheriff was glossed over, by some, to be replaced on an attack on his character.

Funny yes, surprising NO! These types revel in ad hominem attacks; facts are not arrows in their quiver :icon_wink:

Fred

[ffresh]

Terrifying!

Perhaps … to YOU.

Fred

[justjim]

Political stunt. That knuckle head is under investigation by FDLE. Dope.

Sounds like he might be up for re-election. This will never happen and is just a lot of “smoke and tears”.

[Dahabs]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.

This is what needs to happen across the country.

Sheriff to 'deputize lawful gun owners' to confront 'lawlessness' | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8480561/Florida-sheriff-deputize-lawful-gun-owners-confront-lawlessness-violent-protests.html)

Yes, that'll take care of things. A bunch of happy and quick triggers to the rescue.:ohdear: Can just see the lawsuits piling up.

[Bellavita]

Criminal investigation into Clay County Sheriff'''s dealings now in hands of prosecutors | firstcoastnews.com (https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/investigation-of-clay-county-sheriff-nears-conclusion/77-c80918a2-fdba-4ab5-b887-dc7d63abec40)

Just what we need a bunch of gun owners deputized like the wild west

[TexaninVA]

No, it only takes 1 crazy old fart who is giving the legal status to kill that would make the others regret getting involved. Not to mention liability.. the lawsuits .. insane idea

Have you considered that the deterrent value of having people actually resist and, if need be shoot, potential rioters would actually reduce the likelihood of a riot happening in the first place?

Out of curiosity, have you ever used, or been trained in the use of a handgun?

[TexaninVA]

I have mixed thoughts of humor and fear thinking of lots of villages deputies taking about 5 minutes to get out of there golf cart then another 5 minutes to pull up there shorts and gun belt , during which time the perp has slowly walked away , over a 40 year period in 23 countries that were not very nice I used a gun, haven’t had one since I retired, at 81 I still go to Miami Beach in winter for a few months, walk everywhere, I still shoot dice in a couple of illegal dice games one in a black neighborhood in Orlando and I’m in my 5th home in villages and have never locked the door . Guns ???? Please leave them to professionals that can handle the adrenaline surge when your pointing it at a real person

There are already a couple thousand well-trained and legal gun owners who belong to the Villages Straight Shooters Club ( Home (https://www.vssclub.org/) ) and lots of people, including me, who train regularly at Shooters World. ( Indoor Shooting Range & Gun Store | Shooters World The Villages (https://www.shootersworld.com/locations/the-villages/) )

Many are retired military or law enforcement.

Bottom line: we have many living here who are qualified, and willing to serve if so asked and deputized.

[billethkid]

OK forget the guns, anti gun rhetoric and the sensationalizing "legalizing to kill" BS............

There are a bunch of people at your home pounding on the garage and front door of your house.....screaming for you to let them in or they will burn your house down.

What are YOU going to do about it?

[Swoop]

Since the police are in charge of the statistics, it’s not a valid argument, and statistics are not an excuse for refusing to see the obvious. I think the Beatles said it best “...living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see...”
So, since the actual facts don’t align with you feelings or perceptions, then the facts must be wrong...

[cheweycat]

That is insane!

[sloanst]

FINALLY, an abundance of guts and spine. Thank you Sheriff Darry Daniels for setting a wonderful standard.

[santiagobob]

We have seen just what happens when" lawful gun owners "decide that they don't like the black man out for a jog, so they kill him. We had over one mass shooting per day in 2019, do we want more??

[Scorpyo]

OK forget the guns, anti gun rhetoric and the sensationalizing "legalizing to kill" BS............

There are a bunch of people at your home pounding on the garage and front door of your house.....screaming for you to let them in or they will burn your house down.

What are YOU going to do about it?
I put a social worker on my speed dial for situations such as this.

[Scorpyo]

So, since the actual facts don’t align with you feelings or perceptions, then the facts must be wrong...
Facts are in the ear of the beholder.

[Swoop]

Facts are in the ear of the beholder.

Fine, show me evidence of police systemic racism...

[bpascani]

where is Polk County

[mjpuleo]

Love Deputy Daniels. Every law enforcement officer should do the same! As far as his personal life accusations, who knows the real story--and who doesn't have a story to tell!!! He is doing his job and one thing has nothing to do with the other. That chapter in his life is over and he is doing good things now.

[Sherry8bal]

I totally agree with this Sheriff. These punks need to know that there are AMERICANS out there willing to protect their property and use force if needed. It's the only thing that is going to stop them.

[Velvet]

OP, I like the idea. There is so much lawlessness recently a strong and measured response is required. Sorry, criminals, you’re not taking over.

[TexaninVA]

OK forget the guns, anti gun rhetoric and the sensationalizing "legalizing to kill" BS............

There are a bunch of people at your home pounding on the garage and front door of your house.....screaming for you to let them in or they will burn your house down.

What are YOU going to do about it?

Many on this board will apparently call a Social Worker ...

[billethkid]

We have seen just what happens when" lawful gun owners "decide that they don't like the black man out for a jog, so they kill him. We had over one mass shooting per day in 2019, do we want more??

Total and complete insolent anti gun catharsis.

Sign of the times media extrapolation presentation of bias without basis!!!

[turk3531]

I'm was wondering the same thing!

[Dust Bunny]

Judging only from the post and picture (did not go to the story), seems like a sheriff that cares about the safety and security of the citizens under his protection. The picture shows me an officer and gentleman with a great smile. Someone I would probably like if I ever met him.
As to the .54 on the hip, unless you're pretty big, you might walk a little lopsided. Oh, and let me know if you're going to shoot. I want to put my fingers in my ears cause them things go BANG real loud.

Stay safe. Stay well. Peace!

Bravo! Don't forget all those retired police officers that are LEOSA qualified!

[TomPerrett]

Just what we need a bunch of gun owners setting around a bar that get called into action. What’s wrong with that.

[billethkid]

Just what we need a bunch of gun owners setting around a bar that get called into action. What’s wrong with that.

It is terrible how the effect of medication on some folks affects thinking.
:pray:

[Get real]

I would feel real safe with all the knucleheads out there carry guns. Remember Georgia killing a jogger they thought was a looter.

How do you know he was a "jogger"? Because the media said so?

[Get real]

Somebody looking for me? LOL

[Get real]

Get real.

Yes... :a040:

[Get real]

Fine, show me evidence of police systemic racism...

There is none. Only the for profit media.

[Topspinmo]

.54 caliber???? Possibly .45, Just asking???

45? I doubt it, 9mm preferred round.

[jlstree]

The Sheriff of Clay County, FL, said he will "deputize every lawful gun owner" in his county to confront lawlessness and violent protests if need be.
This is what needs to happen across the country.



Wish we had Sheriff's with that kind of concern for their people like you do here in Texas. Thanks

[Scorpyo]

Fine, show me evidence of police systemic racism...
There is none. Ask my son who happens to be NYPD. However, he who wants to believe so will hear what they want to hear, thus my clever - Truth is in the ear of the beholder.

[Irishmen]

This sheriff is a BOSS. Farmers a good one too.

[PennBF]

I have another Hero!!!:bigbow:

[OhioBuckeye]

My post 62 bears repeating:

How about a more realistic example to demonstrate the intent of the deputizing?

Half a dozen protestors are carrying torches up your drive way....are banging on the garage door and front door for you to open up or they are gonna burn your house down.

That is what is being discussed. Not shooting wildly at nothing for no reason...by incompetent aging residents.

When we, competent, trained, licensed gun owners, are discussing taking up arms it is for life threatening situations....not some derogatory anecdotal fluff.

Well you made my point! What IF a bunch of protesters were banging on my garage door & threading to burn my house down & some lawful unstable gun owner really thinks he can shoot anybody just because he thinks his life is threatened & kills them all & you or me just happen to be standing on the sidewalk & get killed. Your right about this situation but I‘be been in a situation where I did catch someone in my house & my warning was pointing my laser light gun site on them, they saw the red dot & they never asked questions & they were gone & yes it would of been tough to pull the trigger even though I thought it would be easy, glad I didn’t. Yes you’re right only shoot in threatening situations. Now if you were me would you of shot first & then look to see if it was your wife or another family, it’s a big decision? live in Texas & we have gun laws that are a little different here. To put it short, here you better not break into anybody’s house, auto or believe it or threaten anybody at work & PROTECTING YOUR PROPERTY. Thieves beware when you come to Texas to break into a house to rob someone, I don’t disagree with you but different state have different gun laws. Listen to Orlando news at 11 that’s all you’ll here is all the killings, then Google Dallas/Ft. Worth News, you might here about 1 or 2 shootings! Good comment though, Billethkid!

[graciegirl]

I have thought about this during the recent violent protests and I am glad that I am allowed to learn to shoot and buy a gun if I feel the need.

I think everyone needs to have cameras installed and recording all around their homes right now and motion lights too.

I came to live here from a very low crime area and this is very much like it, but of course it could change with all the unusual things happening and the rebranding of everything and people looking to be mad and hurt someone.

It is always better to be safe than sorry. I believe that more than half of all Villagers have guns and almost all who have them, know how to use them. I am glad of that.

[ffresh]

I have thought about this during the recent violent protests and I am glad that I am allowed to learn to shoot and buy a gun if I feel the need.

I think everyone needs to have cameras installed and recording all around their homes right now and motion lights too.

I came to live here from a very low crime area and this is very much like it, but of course it could change with all the unusual things happening and the rebranding of everything and people looking to be mad and hurt someone.

It is always better to be safe than sorry. I believe that more than half of all Villagers have guns and almost all who have them, know how to use them. I am glad of that.

I would caution that "I am glad that I am allowed to learn to shoot and buy a gun if I feel the need" will not help, for example, if you're confronted with intruders, armed or not, neither will security cameras, lights, etc. The only thing one can realistically depend upon is having a defensive weapon (gun) at the time its needed. Relying on the police (too little time to avert most disasters) or an armed neighbor may prove perilous to your longevity. Of course, knowing which end to point and being somewhat accurate is always beneficial :icon_wink:

Fred

[graciegirl]

I would caution that "I am glad that I am allowed to learn to shoot and buy a gun if I feel the need" will not help, for example, if you're confronted with intruders, armed or not, neither will security cameras, lights, etc. The only thing one can realistically depend upon is having a defensive weapon (gun) at the time its needed. Relying on the police (too little time to avert most disasters) or an armed neighbor may prove perilous to your longevity. Of course, knowing which end to point and being somewhat accurate is always beneficial :icon_wink:

Fred

I figured that out all by myself.

[NavyVet]

My mother was the victim of a home invasion years ago. Home alone in the Catskill mountains at night, the 2 perpetrators knew my father was in Europe for 3 weeks. They threw a picnic table through the door and windows to get in. Her large shepherd mix cowered behind her. She didn't have much cash. They took the car keys out of her purse and stole her car, later totaling it in another state. She was terrified and was never the same since.
I never liked guns. I had shot rifles but never a pistol until I came to TV. I joined the club, took the courses and part of the training was at the range, and got to try different handguns. I was aiming for center mass (chest) at the target but, turned out, my aim was a little off (high). Hey, it was my first time. The instructor pulled the target back, looked at it, (all head shots,) looked at my hubby and says "I would not **** her off if I was you." Anyway, I am now glad I have my Ruger Security 6, 38 special/357 in case of a home invasion. If a perp attacks me/threatens my life, I WILL stop them.