I didn't realize an 18 year old could reside in The Villages

[manaboutown]

18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

[JoMar]

They can't but evidently the neighbors were ok with it and didn't make the call. It continues to be our responsibility to either accept or reject those that disregard the deed restrictions they signed up for when they purchased. It's your neighborhood.

[njbchbum]

18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

I'd feel better that if there was something to be changed with the law that allows him to be out of jail! Perhaps there has been an exception due to some behavior/medical issue.

[John41]

the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed

[biker1]

That is an “inside the house” issue and is enforced by the Developer and not Community Standards.

18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

[alwann]

I've never read or heard where the developer has ever enforced an inside the house covenant violation. Anyone know? Not to say it hasn't but would reassure us if we were informed that rules are being enforced.

[Jayhawk]

the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed

It's the LAW, but don't let that cloud your negative view.

[Topspinmo]

They can't but evidently the neighbors were ok with it and didn't make the call. It continues to be our responsibility to either accept or reject those that disregard the deed restrictions they signed up for when they purchased. It's your neighborhood.


Thought they couldn’t sell new home to someone who had children less than 19 years old? Nobody monitoring or give a ____ all about the money. Once in they expect someone to rat them out.

[Jayhawk]

Thought they couldn’t sell new home to someone who had children less than 19 years old? Nobody monitoring or give a ____ all about the money. Once in they expect someone to rat them out.

Maybe the rule breaker (mom) lied about having an under 19. How is that "all about the money"?

[Bogie Shooter]

the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed

Some never miss a chance .......

[Jayhawk]

Some never miss a chance .......

Gospel.

[dewilson58]

18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother .


Was he there more than 30 days??:shrug:

[dewilson58]

Thought they couldn’t sell new home to someone who had children less than 19 years old?t.


Nothing in the requirements regarding the age of homeowner children in order to own property.

[dewilson58]

Maybe the rule breaker (mom) lied about having an under 19. How is that "all about the money"?




Having a young child is not an issue.

[manaboutown]

Maybe the rule breaker (mom) lied about having an under 19. How is that "all about the money"?

That is my take on it. She knowingly has been breaking the law, deed restriction or covenants, whatever applies.

"While The Villages is a 55+ active adult community we welcome children and grandchildren. In fact we offer (year round) intergenerational activities called “Camp Villages”, allowing grandparents and grandchildren to experience together all the lifestyle The Villages has to offer. There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/faq/)

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_for_Older_Persons_Act#Summary)

[vintageogauge]

That is my take on it. She knowingly has been breaking the law, deed restriction or covenants, whatever applies.

"While The Villages is a 55+ active adult community we welcome children and grandchildren. In fact we offer (year round) intergenerational activities called “Camp Villages”, allowing grandparents and grandchildren to experience together all the lifestyle The Villages has to offer. There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/faq/)

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_for_Older_Persons_Act#Summary)

It doesn't say she owns the villa, she may well be a tenant and the owner didn't give a crap about the restrictions.

[manaboutown]

It doesn't say she owns the villa, she may well be a tenant and the owner didn't give a crap about the restrictions.

Whether his mother is an owner or tenant doesn't really matter. What matters is he at age 18 is residing in Fenney.

[billethkid]

How does one or how did one find out the ages of people in a given house?

[kathyspear]

"There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/faq/)

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_for_Older_Persons_Act#Summary)

If this person has reached his 18th birthday he isn't "under the age of 18" so I don't understand the age issue.

Confused ...

kathy

[Taltarzac725]

That sounds accurate. That this man is 18 or over. Then he could live here in the Villages without breaking a covenant.

If this person has reached his 18th birthday he isn't "under the age of 18" so I don't understand the age issue.

Confused ...

kathy

[JoMar]

Thought they couldn’t sell new home to someone who had children less than 19 years old? Nobody monitoring or give a ____ all about the money. Once in they expect someone to rat them out.

That's correct, but if they don't divulge they are bringing someone under 19 how would they know? The moral dilemma for many is after they live here a kid or grandkid gets into trouble and they take them in. Until it becomes an issue for the neighbors nothing will be done. It's your neighborhood.

[JoMar]

That is an “inside the house” issue and is enforced by the Developer and not Community Standards.

Community Standards forward inside house complaints to the Developer. They do follow up and you can follow up as well.

[JoMar]

the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed

Some never miss a chance .......

Now that's just wrong

[Buckeyephan]

Community Standards forward inside house complaints to the Developer. They do follow up and you can follow up as well.

That doesn’t seem to be the case with the grandfather who has a 9-year old living with him. They were frequently in the news and everyone knows about it. Nothing was done.

[davem4616]

the age restriction applies to under 18

this kid's mother should take out a restraining order to keep him away from her

I don't see any role that the developer has to play in any of this

[Two Bills]

I was always under the impression that 19 years of age was the cut off?

[George Page]

FEAR NOT,
Loser offspring of Villagers are only here for a short time. Soon enough, they check into their permanent accommodations.

[NY2TV]

It's not the under 55 parent that's the problem, it's the under 19 child that's not allowed.

[Girlcopper]

I'd feel better that if there was something to be changed with the law that allows him to be out of jail! Perhaps there has been an exception due to some behavior/medical issue.
Its called “posting bond” and you get out of jail until your court date. Nothing new. And I wouldnt go posting backgrounds about people until you can confirm what youre saying and not what you read in the news.

[Sabella]

Why wasn’t Camp Villages canceled? I guess safe health practices go out the window when there’s money to be made.

[Judy n Ron]

18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

We walked by the house with the turf yesterday. The house and yard were impeccable. There were many homes there some obviously unoccupied that had TREMENDOUS weeks and grass coming out of the planters. The walls to those bungalows are maintained by the villages as is the sign in the front and look like something out of the Munsters! Shame on The Villages for threatening and fining people when their own house is completely out of order. I agree with restrictions, but throwing stones at people who actually care about their property while not maintaining your own is untenable.

[Jayhawk]

Why wasn’t Camp Villages canceled? I guess safe health practices go out the window when there’s money to be made.

Since when was it NOT canceled? They announced the cancellation long ago, despite your contention "there’s money to be made."

Shameful rumors.

:cus:

[Two Bills]

We walked by the house with the turf yesterday. The house and yard were impeccable. There were many homes there some obviously unoccupied that had TREMENDOUS weeks and grass coming out of the planters. The walls to those bungalows are maintained by the villages as is the sign in the front and look like something out of the Munsters! Shame on The Villages for threatening and fining people when their own house is completely out of order. I agree with restrictions, but throwing stones at people who actually care about their property while not maintaining your own is untenable.

Report them!

[MandoMan]

That is my take on it. She knowingly has been breaking the law, deed restriction or covenants, whatever applies.

"While The Villages is a 55+ active adult community we welcome children and grandchildren. In fact we offer (year round) intergenerational activities called “Camp Villages”, allowing grandparents and grandchildren to experience together all the lifestyle The Villages has to offer. There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/faq/)

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_for_Older_Persons_Act#Summary)

If children live with their parents or grandparents who own or rent in The Villages, then they aren’t visitors, so the thirty day restriction doesn’t apply. It would apply if, say, people send their kids to The Villages to spend the summer with the grandparents. That’s not allowed beyond thirty days. A huge number of Villagers have grandchildren, and of course they want to be visited. This is why some of the swimming pools here are open to children. What joy to watch kids frolicking in a pool. It brings back old memories. There must be a number of kids who live here all the time, as there are schools here.

I’ve noticed that a large percentage of the crime by people residing in The Villages is done by children of Villagers—but usually grown-up children. Some grown-up children live with a parent to provide care—what a blessing! Some have medical problems that keep them from being able to live alone, such as Down Syndrome. Some move in because they have a hard time holding down a job for various reasons (including drug abuse and drinking problems and a criminal record) and need a place to stay. Sometimes they abuse the parent, and of course plenty of older parents are pretty abusive themselves, at least verbally. I’m sure it must be horrible for owners to have criminal children living with them. They need our support.

[vintageogauge]

Its called “posting bond” and you get out of jail until your court date. Nothing new. And I wouldnt go posting backgrounds about people until you can confirm what youre saying and not what you read in the news.

His bond was returned to him and charges dropped. There will be no court date.

[thevillages2013]

Anyone check the tax records to see if she is the actual owner of the home or a tenant?

[hardwick2112@yahoo.com]

Let's face it, The Villages is not what it used to be. Greed and money have taken over the developers mindset.

[skip0358]

Why is it whenever something is wrong it's all about the Family making money. There are rules period. Unfortunately there are NO rules police. You must be the tattletail and turn them in period then it will be investigated. There have been times when emergencies arose and the underage rule was waived. If the child is being abusive or troublesome it's up to the parent to take action period! Put the shoe back on your foot and think what you would do period! Off topic pull out your restrictions we all signed for then look around your yard and your neighborhood there are VERY few homes that don't have violations. So people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Don't pick and choose what your going to complain about. JMO

[Jayhawk]

That sounds accurate. That this man is 18 or over. Then he could live here in the Villages without breaking a covenant.

The rule is UNDER 19, not 18 and over.

[RonI46]

Underage allowed if medical condition is the cause for the individual living there.

[Jayhawk]

Let's face it, The Villages is not what it used to be. Greed and money have taken over the developers mindset.

So a punk beating up his momma correlates to "greed and money" by the very people who have driven this paradise for half a century?

I guess the guy who steals a car does it just because General Motors is greedy.

Wow, just wow. Where do some people come up with these theories?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed

I've been here for eight years and am continually amazed at the people that still misunderstand this rule. It is not that 20% can be under 55. The law states that in order to be recognized as an over 55 community at least 80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person over the age of 55. Under this rule, mathematically, 80% or more of the residents could be under the age of 55.

The problem presented here is that there is also a rule, (I don't know if it's a federal law or a Villages rule), that no one under the age of 19 may live here permanently.

In any case, if you know about this and object to it, you should report it.

A problem in this case may be that the individual may be turning 19 in the near future so a complaint and action would only be temporary.

[RonI46]

18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

Look up HOPA, Housing for Older Persons Act, and it will explain the 80/20 rule.

[J1ceasar]

Excellent compassionate reply.

[J1ceasar]

The federal 80/20 law is more to protect the developer and the HOA that is created from age discrimination lawsuits than it is to protect homeowners having those under 55 or under 18 living in the homes . I don't understand why those buying homes teenage restricted communities don't bleed a little bit about what they are going into and all the rules and regulations they are going to have to adhere to. It is simply more restrictive than a Township with various laws that may or may not be enforced.

[dewilson58]

Anyone check the tax records to see if she is the actual owner of the home or a tenant?


Why do you care?

[2mnydogs]

My understanding is that when the developer applies for the permits to build age restricted houses or apartments or townhouses the law states that a certain percentage of the homes within that division can be sold or even rented by an owner to people under 55. If the gestapo neighbors are going to go after people for what they believe are sins against the covenant, perhaps we should all chip in and provide these busybodies with uniforms so we all know them by sight if not by name.

[dewilson58]

it's the under 19 child that's not allowed.


False

[Bogie Shooter]

Why wasn’t Camp Villages canceled? I guess safe health practices go out the window when there’s money to be made.

Who makes money on Camp Villages??

[Bogie Shooter]

We walked by the house with the turf yesterday. The house and yard were impeccable. There were many homes there some obviously unoccupied that had TREMENDOUS weeks and grass coming out of the planters. The walls to those bungalows are maintained by the villages as is the sign in the front and look like something out of the Munsters! Shame on The Villages for threatening and fining people when their own house is completely out of order. I agree with restrictions, but throwing stones at people who actually care about their property while not maintaining your own is untenable.
Share your concerns here:

VCDD District Property Management (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/District-Property-Management/district-property-management.aspx)

[Bogie Shooter]

Underage allowed if medical condition is the cause for the individual living there.

Where did you read that?

[mikeritz53]

Maybe the rule breaker (mom) lied about having an under 19. How is that "all about the money"?

There is nowhere you disclose who is living in your house when you Buy.

[graciegirl]

Here are the rules, straight from the government. All residents status are reviewed every two years.

The Fair Housing Act: Housing for Older Persons | HUD.gov / U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) (https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/fair_housing_act_housing_older_persons)


There are so many posts on this thread by people who are anti-developer. I think some don't live here and are jealous and I think some have other agendas that are not in line with this very successful and enjoyable place to live.

There is NO shame in making money . There is no shame in running a community well...........................AND we get a nice life for our money here.

The rule plainly states that no one can have visitors under the age of 19 for more than thirty days in a year. Obviously, many don't follow that rule and I doubt anyone cares. Most of us love kids.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The age is 19 , no person under the age of 19 can live here look it up villages age rules

[graciegirl]

You have to be 19 to live here.

Here are the rules;

The Fair Housing Act: Housing for Older Persons | HUD.gov / U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) (https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/fair_housing_act_housing_older_persons)

[dewilson58]

The age is 19 , no person under the age of 19 can live here look it up villages age rules


Wrong.


You can live here, just not more than 30 days.

[mlmarr1]

you would be surprised how many parents and grandparents allow this .. if the young person is responsible and is helping the parent or grandparent.. but this person needs to go.. before he causes more issues..

[Dgodin]

We have a 10 yr old in our neighborhood living with his grandfather. Nobody objected to the child but his mom was a piece of work. So there were complaints. As an "inside" complaint it was the developer's responsibility to handle. The developer sent a letter. No further action was taken.

[John_W]

It's just like the artificial lawn, another resident would have to file a complaint before any action would take place. Considering he was an 18 year old that could beat up his mom, he probably was a bigger guy, probably drove a car, and who at our age can tell an 18 year old from a 19 year old. If he's not causing trouble in the neighbor, people generally don't complain.

I played golf with a fellow who said he had two houses, one in TV and one in Parkside. I asked, why have a second home so close to TV. He said his 19 year old daughter came home to live, she was pregnant. So even though she was legal, he knew soon she would have a baby and wanted to do things the right way, so he bought a second home outside TV and he kept his other home so he could play golf.

[graciegirl]

We have a 10 yr old in our neighborhood living with his grandfather. Nobody objected to the child but his mom was a piece of work. So there were complaints. As an "inside" complaint it was the developer's responsibility to handle. The developer sent a letter. No further action was taken.

Was this the much hyped case last year in the historical area? Where the daughter moved in and he couldn't get her out and finally she was arrested for something and he had the child?

The developer cannot evict someone from their own property. They can fine someone for deed restrictions. And they do. And then when the owners try to sell the property, there are liens on it if they don't pay the fines. They are fined for every single day they are out of compliance....

[njkonczal@gmail.com]

A health care provider, regardless of age, is allowed to live with a senior. Maybe he falls under that rule.

[Kgcetm]

The 18yo was arrested, the astro turf is coming out. At some point violations do catch up.

[airstreamingypsy]

Isn't there a 6 year old living with his grandfather, because the mother is a junkie?

[PugMom]

some of these 'kids' are not here by choice. our daughter is staying with us after the corona shut down the university she was @. she was supposed to stay up north, working, then on the way to grad school. everyone's plans were cancelled & she is stuck with us. i say 'stuck' because there are hundreds of places she'd rather be, instead of an over 55 community, dodging golf carts & standing in line @ walgreens

[boobear51751]

Anyone 19 years or older may purchase a home here and live here as long as they have no children under the age of 19 living with them. The restriction is that children under 19 meaning 18 and younger may only stay for a total of 30 days per year. That has never been enforced to the best of my knowledge. The Federal Government has set a percentage of, I believe, 10% residence at age 19 years. Years ago TV was advertised as a retirement community. It is not and they stopped advertising as such. It is advertised as a "Active Living Community for Adults" not a place just for people over 55 years of age. They also years ago advertised "Free golf for life" and that is not completely true either and they have since stopped advertising it as such as well. So, if your salesperson selling you your home told you that it was childrenless they were wrong.

[ccudney3]

Perfect. If I had know my kids couldn’t visit I wouldn’t have bought in the Villages. I have a son in Scottsdale 23 and. Son and his wife 29 and 25 in Philadelphia. It seemed like a perfect family place to meet up and play golf and vacation for a week or so together.

[rmd2]

It's the LAW, but don't let that cloud your negative view.

• There is a misconception in The Villages that we have to allow under-age persons to live here. That is WRONG. We do NOT have to allow ANY under-age persons to live here. Federal regulations require at least 80% residents must be occupied by one person 55 years of age or older. The regulations mean we cannot have OVER 20% under-age living here and still be considered a 55+ community. We can have ZERO under-age persons here. Many retirement communities around here do not allow ANYONE under 55 to live in their retirement communities. Our developer set the policy to allow underage persons and felons to live among us.

[banjobob]

The Developer is responsible for young permanent residents ,but refuses to enforce the covenant disallowing it.

[skip0358]

Perfect. If I had know my kids couldn’t visit I wouldn’t have bought in the Villages. I have a son in Scottsdale 23 and. Son and his wife 29 and 25 in Philadelphia. It seemed like a perfect family place to meet up and play golf and vacation for a week or so together.

Who said they couldn't visit that's the furthest thing from the truth they can visit no problem and they could live here. Those under the age of 19 can't live here more than 30 days.

[retiredguy123]

Isn't there a 6 year old living with his grandfather, because the mother is a junkie?
I think he is 8, and has been living here since he was born.

[vintageogauge]

some of these 'kids' are not here by choice. our daughter is staying with us after the corona shut down the university she was @. she was supposed to stay up north, working, then on the way to grad school. everyone's plans were cancelled & she is stuck with us. i say 'stuck' because there are hundreds of places she'd rather be, instead of an over 55 community, dodging golf carts & standing in line @ walgreens

And you wonder why the positive cases are going up.

[Jayhawk]

A health care provider, regardless of age, is allowed to live with a senior. Maybe he falls under that rule.

He must be a helluva caregiver, despite kicking her butt.

[NavyVet]

Regarding kids 19 and under, anything under 30 days is VISITING, anything over 30 days is "living here." Seems that should be pretty straightforward/common sense/obvious/simple to most people.
No children living here was one of the biggest things that attracted us childfree by choice couples to come to TV. We moved here from a community in south Florida where our next door neighbor's spawn SET FIRE TO OUR LAWN!!
Enough said.

[Jayhawk]

Perfect. If I had know my kids couldn’t visit I wouldn’t have bought in the Villages. I have a son in Scottsdale 23 and. Son and his wife 29 and 25 in Philadelphia. It seemed like a perfect family place to meet up and play golf and vacation for a week or so together.

What's that you say?

[Jayhawk]

some of these 'kids' are not here by choice. our daughter is staying with us after the corona shut down the university she was @. she was supposed to stay up north, working, then on the way to grad school. everyone's plans were cancelled & she is stuck with us. i say 'stuck' because there are hundreds of places she'd rather be, instead of an over 55 community, dodging golf carts & standing in line @ walgreens

If she is over 19, you are not violating the rules. But if she is NOT, well then, I think you know.

[Jayhawk]

• There is a misconception in The Villages that we have to allow under-age persons to live here. That is WRONG. We do NOT have to allow ANY under-age persons to live here. Federal regulations require at least 80% residents must be occupied by one person 55 years of age or older. The regulations mean we cannot have OVER 20% under-age living here and still be considered a 55+ community. We can have ZERO under-age persons here. Many retirement communities around here do not allow ANYONE under 55 to live in their retirement communities. Our developer set the policy to allow underage persons and felons to live among us.

You might have included; the original post that I replied to for context. Since you missed it, here it is:

Originally Posted by John41

the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed

[bpascani]

my understanding is 20% of purchasers. When we bought, I inquired that, if both my husband and I died before our girls turned 55yrs, could they inherit the house, or would it have to be sold. I was told that they could inherit it, but couldn't live in it, as long as any of their children were under 19yrs old. They could down for under 30days, twice a year, in order to handle any maintenance issues' Perhaps this kid doesn't have a Villages ID (or, as stated before, someone lied) so flying under the radar.

[Bogie Shooter]

Perfect. If I had know my kids couldn’t visit I wouldn’t have bought in the Villages. I have a son in Scottsdale 23 and. Son and his wife 29 and 25 in Philadelphia. It seemed like a perfect family place to meet up and play golf and vacation for a week or so together.

So, did you know they could or could not come visit? Seemed like a perfect place....so do they come or do they not?

This post needs some clarification..

[JoMar]

That doesn’t seem to be the case with the grandfather who has a 9-year old living with him. They were frequently in the news and everyone knows about it. Nothing was done.

So who made the call? Do you know? Probably nobody made the call so the neighborhood was ok with it. This isn't that difficult to understand process, the difficulty is someone picking up the phone.

[JoMar]

We have a 10 yr old in our neighborhood living with his grandfather. Nobody objected to the child but his mom was a piece of work. So there were complaints. As an "inside" complaint it was the developer's responsibility to handle. The developer sent a letter. No further action was taken.

There is a process.....how long ago was the letter? If not satisfied pick up the phone. Can't be much of an issue if nobody follows up.

[JoMar]

The Developer is responsible for young permanent residents ,but refuses to enforce the covenant disallowing it.

And you know that how?

[TooColdNJ]

That is my take on it. She knowingly has been breaking the law, deed restriction or covenants, whatever applies.

"While The Villages is a 55+ active adult community we welcome children and grandchildren. In fact we offer (year round) intergenerational activities called “Camp Villages”, allowing grandparents and grandchildren to experience together all the lifestyle The Villages has to offer. There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages (https://www.thevillages.com/faq/)

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_for_Older_Persons_Act#Summary)

There is no way that the 30 day limit can be enforced. How does anyone know it the kid left and came back, starting again? There’s no proof to outsiders what’s going on inside, other than the incident mentioned here. There was a similar situation where I used to live. They were unable to do anything about it unless there was proof that the 17 year old was living there permanently. The kid even did damage to the community and they still couldn’t just kick him out. People complained all the time. Eventually the son started living with a girl and got her pregnant. He broke up with her, but after the baby was born it looked like the infant was living there with the boys mother. There was no proof of that either. Even with neighbors’ complaints, all they could do was ask her. She said she was babysitting, but the baby was only occasionally taken somewhere by it’s mother, then always returned to the house, not to be seen again until the next morning.

[tophcfa]

Internal (inside the home) deed restrictions are rarely enforced. Just look at the number of AIRBNB's being operated in the Villages where someone living in the home rents out a room while they are living in the home. This violates two deed restrictions, the residence is not being used as a single family residence and there is a business being operated out of the home. If this can not be enforced while the violation is in plain sight (just look up the AIRBNB listings), don't expect a 30 day limit on people under 19 years old to be enforced.

[Neils]

It will take 32 years to have this rule enforced
Then he will be old enough to stay

[Northwoods]

Let's face it, The Villages is not what it used to be. Greed and money have taken over the developers mindset.

The Developer has NOTHING to do with any household or rules north of Hwy 44. Well... unless those people are living on a championship golf course. Or living at The Daily Sun.

[crash]

18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

The way this works in The Villages you would have to be the one to police it.

[PugMom]

And you wonder why the positive cases are going up.

just to ease your mind, none of us are sick, were sick, etc. ..we don't have the virus, or know anyone who does. oxo

[Topspinmo]

Maybe the rule breaker (mom) lied about having an under 19. How is that "all about the money"?


Maybe they didn’t bother to ask questions other than if she’s got the means to pay?

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The Developer has NOTHING to do with any household or rules north of Hwy 44. Well... unless those people are living on a championship golf course. Or living at The Daily Sun.

Daa, this in the NEW section selling NEW houses, it’s not in calumet grove where new house were sold 20 years ago.

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And you know that how?

They set up the rules and claim restricted retirement community.

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Nothing in the requirements regarding the age of homeowner children in order to own property.

BS,

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Having a young child is not an issue.


He, they don’t want to denture sales for some fine print

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It doesn't say she owns the villa, she may well be a tenant and the owner didn't give a crap about the restrictions.

You’re probably right, there both moochers? :1rotfl:

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How does one or how did one find out the ages of people in a given house?

When the commit crime

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If children live with their parents or grandparents who own or rent in The Villages, then they aren’t visitors, so the thirty day restriction doesn’t apply. It would apply if, say, people send their kids to The Villages to spend the summer with the grandparents. That’s not allowed beyond thirty days. A huge number of Villagers have grandchildren, and of course they want to be visited. This is why some of the swimming pools here are open to children. What joy to watch kids frolicking in a pool. It brings back old memories. There must be a number of kids who live here all the time, as there are schools here.

I’ve noticed that a large percentage of the crime by people residing in The Villages is done by children of Villagers—but usually grown-up children. Some grown-up children live with a parent to provide care—what a blessing! Some have medical problems that keep them from being able to live alone, such as Down Syndrome. Some move in because they have a hard time holding down a job for various reasons (including drug abuse and drinking problems and a criminal record) and need a place to stay. Sometimes they abuse the parent, and of course plenty of older parents are pretty abusive themselves, at least verbally. I’m sure it must be horrible for owners to have criminal children living with them. They need our support.

No, they need to move it they are breaking restrictions.

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BS,


Nothing in mine.

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I think he is 8, and has been living here since he was born.


I think he’s 10 now?