Frustrated with Facebook censorship

[Northwoods]

A few friends on Facebook have posted articles... Facebook feels that these articles are incorrect. OK. But Facebook doesn't allow me to see the post, they "overshadow" it and say the post is incorrect. Then they link to something that tells you why they post is incorrect.
My issue is.. let me read the post!!! Facebook can tell me why they think (or know) it's fraudulent... but let me read the post!!!
I feel this is censorship... and I find it really annoying and frustrating.
Does anyone know of another Social Media platform that doesn't impose this censorship?

[John41]

Try the social media website Parler.

[JimJohnson]

I agree with Facebook. The average American does not process information with facts, they use emotional feeling like, “Well, my Daddy says”. When we move away from Medical Experts and listen to the loudest voice, we’re in trouble.

[Two Bills]

Facebook should be a registered Notifiable Disease.:icon_wink:

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

All you have to do I read this site for a week and realize Facebook has a good idea

[Rrgolf]

Parler

[JoMar]

Facebook, and I believe Twitter are both trying to manage the inflammatory posts. There are a lot of followers that get their news and hear what their positions should be as dictated by their friends. While you may be able to filter, posters know you are in the minority are searching for those that won't. Since those are the only two I look at I personally don't have an option with those filters.

[TexaninVA]

... The average American does not process information with facts, they use emotional feeling like, “Well, my Daddy says”. ...


This provides a brilliant light into the workings of self-described elitist thinking ... astonishingly arrogant but unintentionally revealing. It's then used to support censorship by "the betters" such as Facebook?? :ohdear:


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[GoodLife]

I agree with Facebook. The average American does not process information with facts, they use emotional feeling like, “Well, my Daddy says”. When we move away from Medical Experts and listen to the loudest voice, we’re in trouble.

The average American is smarter than you think

So should we listen to Dr Fauci when he said

The risk is miniscule to Americans
Face masks don't work
Travel bans don't work
Pandemics are never driven by asymptomatics

Or do we listen when he says the exact opposite?

[JGVillages]

Social Media at it’s onset was, and I emphasize was, a great platform for socializing with friends and relatives. It has now degenerated into a”National Enquirer” online rag that allows unsubstantiated postings placed just for the posters benefit. Unfortunately the powers to be at these social media sites now choose to filter content to meet their so called beliefs and standards. Just continue to read these posts then wait a few days, or weeks, to actually discover if they are truth or fiction. Too polluted for me.

[Strongel]

A few friends on Facebook have posted articles... Facebook feels that these articles are incorrect. OK. But Facebook doesn't allow me to see the post, they "overshadow" it and say the post is incorrect. Then they link to something that tells you why they post is incorrect.
My issue is.. let me read the post!!! Facebook can tell me why they think (or know) it's fraudulent... but let me read the post!!!
I feel this is censorship... and I find it really annoying and frustrating.
Does anyone know of another Social Media platform that doesn't impose this censorship?

There is censorship in many places, YouTube for sure. I’ve heard people calling it FB prison and they get released a few months later. What is troubling is that a lot is that sometimes some puffed up person arbitrarily makes the decision. When this happens I find it difficult...was going to use another word. We are losing our freedoms bit by bit as we are silenced if another disagrees. I think it is a real opportunity for other platforms to arise. I don’t mean anything goes, common sense simple rules need to be stated.

[Bucco]

There is censorship in many places, YouTube for sure. I’ve heard people calling it FB prison and they get released a few months later. What is troubling is that a lot is that sometimes some puffed up person arbitrarily makes the decision. When this happens I find it difficult...was going to use another word. We are losing our freedoms bit by bit as we are silenced if another disagrees. I think it is a real opportunity for other platforms to arise. I don’t mean anything goes, common sense simple rules need to be stated.

If we are ridding ourselves of those who spread lies and untruth, then I suggest that maybe we are getting freedom back !

Facebook, Twitter, etc., are a thorn in the side of anyone searching for truth, honesty or morality. The tool of those who wish to rile the citizenry, spread hate and chaos.

[Number 10 GI]

It is exactly what all fascists/communists/socialists have done in every country they control. Allow no dissenting opinion of their dogma because it won't stand up to the light of truth.

[Bucco]

It is exactly what all fascists/communists/socialists have done in every country they control. Allow no dissenting opinion of their dogma because it won't stand up to the light of truth.

Dissenting opinion is in a different world than LYING, DISTORTION OF FACTS, PERSONAL SLANDER.

NOT ONE person should ever stoop to the level of relying on Facebook or Twitter for news or issues. It is distorted greatly, and the changes at those two platforms are aiming at stopping the "outside influences" very much at play in both places. They need to be stronger.

If anyone wishes facts so they can develop a HEALTHY, logical opinion, these type places are a EXTREME TABOO. They do not present the truth, and all sides of any issue use them....the loudest wins ? Having a message that translates well on these type of sites, does not make them the correct message.

We all make our own opinion, but it has to be based on truths.

[Stu from NYC]

Dissenting opinion is in a different world than LYING, DISTORTION OF FACTS, PERSONAL SLANDER.

NOT ONE person should ever stoop to the level of relying on Facebook or Twitter for news or issues. It is distorted greatly, and the changes at those two platforms are aiming at stopping the "outside influences" very much at play in both places. They need to be stronger.

If anyone wishes facts so they can develop a HEALTHY, logical opinion, these type places are a EXTREME TABOO. They do not present the truth, and all sides of any issue use them....the loudest wins ? Having a message that translates well on these type of sites, does not make them the correct message.

We all make our own opinion, but it has to be based on truths.

Hard to find journalists who are objective these days or allowed to be by their bosses

[JoMar]

Dissenting opinion is in a different world than LYING, DISTORTION OF FACTS, PERSONAL SLANDER.

NOT ONE person should ever stoop to the level of relying on Facebook or Twitter for news or issues. It is distorted greatly, and the changes at those two platforms are aiming at stopping the "outside influences" very much at play in both places. They need to be stronger.

If anyone wishes facts so they can develop a HEALTHY, logical opinion, these type places are a EXTREME TABOO. They do not present the truth, and all sides of any issue use them....the loudest wins ? Having a message that translates well on these type of sites, does not make them the correct message.

We all make our own opinion, but it has to be based on truths.

The difficulty is the truth is different to everyone. The days of Walter Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley who reported and you didn't know their bias and they offered little commentary. Now the networks offer commentary with a little news thrown in now and then. We listen to those we agree with and that becomes our truth.

[Bucco]

The difficulty is the truth is different to everyone. The days of Walter Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley who reported and you didn't know their bias and they offered little commentary. Now the networks offer commentary with a little news thrown in now and then. We listen to those we agree with and that becomes our truth.

Perhaps I am just stupid. I make no decision on how I feel about any issue, without insuring I am aware of the ACTUAL FACTS.

From those facts, I can easily find the truth, and arrive at an opinion.

And, always insure I hear both or how many sides ther are.

In today's world, that's tough, but one FACT I AM CERTAIN OF. Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are FOR SURE not on my list of sources.

Congressional investigations on both sides after hearing world security experts and intelligence concluded overwhelmingly that those mediums are being fed untruths by several sources, some outside our boundaries.

[Topspinmo]

My opinion on social media. You don’t become billionaire by offering free site to _______ without selling their private information they post, basically it’s spying, monitoring, and gathering of information for sale to any business including federal government and you agreed to to it when you set up account and post. Twitter no different IMO IMO FB, tweeter, google, Utube, yahoo all gather information and sell it or use it for agenda. Not that familiar with instant graham probably has the same scheme.

Ever notice when you search for something online and all sudden you have pop up adds? Only one way to generate
Income off you’re information.

[Topspinmo]

All you have to do I read this site for a week and realize Facebook has a good idea

Good idea selling personal information.

[Aloha1]

I agree with Facebook. The average American does not process information with facts, they use emotional feeling like, “Well, my Daddy says”. When we move away from Medical Experts and listen to the loudest voice, we’re in trouble.

And why should some 20 something SJW be the arbiter of what we see and read?? Bias??

[Northwoods]

Dissenting opinion is in a different world than LYING, DISTORTION OF FACTS, PERSONAL SLANDER.

NOT ONE person should ever stoop to the level of relying on Facebook or Twitter for news or issues. It is distorted greatly, and the changes at those two platforms are aiming at stopping the "outside influences" very much at play in both places. They need to be stronger.

If anyone wishes facts so they can develop a HEALTHY, logical opinion, these type places are a EXTREME TABOO. They do not present the truth, and all sides of any issue use them....the loudest wins ? Having a message that translates well on these type of sites, does not make them the correct message.

We all make our own opinion, but it has to be based on truths.

No one should decide what I can read and not read. That is censorship. If Facebook wants to tell me they believe information is incorrect, I don't have an issue with Facebook "tagging" it, stating that this information is incorrect, and linking to what they feel is factual information. BUT LET ME READ THE POST!!! They don't allow you to even see it.
I have many friends with differing views. I've seen a number of people "censored" on one side, yet no posts blocked by my other friends. And the block occurs to multiple friends. In my opinion, the decision to censor isn't objective.

[tophcfa]

Absolutely zero interest in Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc...., TOV is the only social media platform I ever visit.

[Stu from NYC]

No one should decide what I can read and not read. That is censorship. If Facebook wants to tell me they believe information is incorrect, I don't have an issue with Facebook "tagging" it, stating that this information is incorrect, and linking to what they feel is factual information. BUT LET ME READ THE POST!!! They don't allow you to even see it.
I have many friends with differing views. I've seen a number of people "censored" on one side, yet no posts blocked by my other friends. And the block occurs to multiple friends. In my opinion, the decision to censor isn't objective.

Agreed. They have their point of view and they censor to that

[tvbound]

No one should decide what I can read and not read. That is censorship. If Facebook wants to tell me they believe information is incorrect, I don't have an issue with Facebook "tagging" it, stating that this information is incorrect, and linking to what they feel is factual information. BUT LET ME READ THE POST!!! They don't allow you to even see it.
I have many friends with differing views. I've seen a number of people "censored" on one side, yet no posts blocked by my other friends. And the block occurs to multiple friends. In my opinion, the decision to censor isn't objective.

"No one should decide what I can read and not read." "That is censorship."



I don't really care to get involved with all of these current threads, but it's hard to let this one go without a comment. When we rented there various times, as soon as my eyelids were open in the morning I headed to the postal station to get the paper. Mostly for seeing the open houses, scouting various villages and an overall idea of the homes for sale.

One thing we immediately noticed though, was that the paper was pretty sparse on actual national or international news and that which they did have, was far from balanced. No problem whatsoever with me though, since it is a private business and they have the right to print, or not print, anything they choose.

I fail to see where Facebook, or any other social media for that matter, is any different in their right to run their business the way they want.

[Bucco]

Facebook strikes again.....

New York Daily News - NY Daily News - New York Daily News (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-right-wing-militias-gettysburg-flag-burning-rumor-hoax-20200705-ho2q2n6herdc5eeioruxa62zmq-)story.html

"Several groups of right-wing militias descended on Gettysburg National Park in Pennsylvania on July 4 after conspiracy theory websites spread a quickly debunked rumor that antifa was going to burn American flags at the Civil War battlefield.

"The antifa flag-burning event started on Facebook, and the listing was eventuallyremoved, but not before getting the attention of right-wing websites and social media, along with the rumor’s evolution to include a massacre of white people and burning of homes."

[TexaninVA]

Facebook strikes again.....

New York Daily News - NY Daily News - New York Daily News (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-right-wing-militias-gettysburg-flag-burning-rumor-hoax-20200705-ho2q2n6herdc5eeioruxa62zmq-)story.html

"Several groups of right-wing militias descended on Gettysburg National Park in Pennsylvania on July 4 after conspiracy theory websites spread a quickly debunked rumor that antifa was going to burn American flags at the Civil War battlefield.

"The antifa flag-burning event started on Facebook, and the listing was eventuallyremoved, but not before getting the attention of right-wing websites and social media, along with the rumor’s evolution to include a massacre of white people and burning of homes."

You may have missed this article ... armed Black protestors about 1,000 strong amass at Stone Mountain ..

I don't know if it made it to Facebook or not since I closed my account a few years ago as it was / is a wasteland IMO>

Armed protesters march through Georgia'''s Stone Mountain Park (https://news.yahoo.com/armed-protesters-march-georgias-stone-015914732.html)


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[Bucco]

You may have missed this article ... armed Black protestors about 1,000 strong amass at Stone Mountain ..

I don't know if it made it to Facebook or not since I closed my account a few years ago as it was / is a wasteland IMO>

Armed protesters march through Georgia'''s Stone Mountain Park (https://news.yahoo.com/armed-protesters-march-georgias-stone-015914732.html)


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Which has what to do with Gettysburg ? Or Facebook or Twitter, etc.

And your crowd estimate is just a bit off from reports.


"Stone Mountain Memorial Association spokesman John Bankhead said there were between 100 and 200 protesters. He said the protesters, many of whom carried large rifles, were peaceful."

Armed protesters march through Georgia's Stone Mountain Park (https://news.yahoo.com/armed-protesters-march-georgias-stone-015914732.html)

[TexaninVA]

Which has what to do with Gettysburg ? Or Facebook or Twitter, etc.

And your crowd estimate is just a bit off from reports.


"Stone Mountain Memorial Association spokesman John Bankhead said there were between 100 and 200 protesters. He said the protesters, many of whom carried large rifles, were peaceful."

Armed protesters march through Georgia's Stone Mountain Park (https://news.yahoo.com/armed-protesters-march-georgias-stone-015914732.html)

If you can't see the connection I won't bother trying to explain it to you ...

[graciegirl]

I have seen "FactChecks" on Facebook that I personally was glad to see. When someone issued a statement, quoted from another source that was incorrect, blatantly incorrect, they would put up a "fact checker". Trying to think of an example.

Maybe someone else can. There are many rumors that are spread as fact online that are just plain wrong. FaceBook doesn't issue a "fact check" over someone's opinion but rather over an article that was quoted as fact that was incorrect. Usually not over anything political or religious or really highly controversial. I have seen several people corrected that needed to be corrected...and of course they still thought they were right.

Facebook doesn't do it often. I invite all people frightened to be part of Facebook to try it. It is wonderful to see friends and relatives that you haven't seen in years and pictures of their children and some of it is very annoying as well, as when a family member posts a political meme you don't agree with....... but it is something interesting to do...and not dangerous like some people think. Follow the rules of common sense and don't open private messages on Facebook. I can't help you if you buy things. Just don't buy things and wave to a few cousins who may be like mine and a LOT of fun.

[Bucco]

If you can't see the connection I won't bother trying to explain it to you ...

Only connection I see is that Stone Mountain Park has a storied history with white supremacy groups.

"Located just outside of Atlanta, Georgia is a town called Stone Mountain. Since the early 1900s, the Stone Mountain community was used as a site for gatherings for the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist activities."

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/Cascade/index.html?appid=695684ed6d1d47e8a7b33418907cf1ce

[EdFNJ]

Try the social media website Parler. Isn't that the "official social website of The Villages Fl"?

[jet10s]

Facebook, and I believe Twitter are both trying to manage the inflammatory posts. There are a lot of followers that get their news and hear what their positions should be as dictated by their friends. While you may be able to filter, posters know you are in the minority are searching for those that won't. Since those are the only two I look at I personally don't have an option with those filters.
facebook only censors posts they do not agree with