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aletarw
07-05-2020, 12:07 PM
The recent Lake Sumter “white power” political confrontation exposed two issues in The Villages—the racial divisions and political divisions.

Continued silence by, the Morse family, the owners of the Villages, makes it appear that this type of confrontation with racial epithets is condoned in The Villages. Through their silence, the Morse’s are losing the opportunity to set the record straight.

As the political season heats up over the next months, there will be more political activities in the Villages, and potentially more heated clashes with racist tones and a possible threat of violence. Some current Villages residents report that they fear placing a Democratic sticker on their car because the car may be vandalized.

The image of the Villages as a racist and politically volatile community diminishes the value of the existing homes and lowers the expectations for future home sales.
We strongly urge the Morse family to capitalize on this as an opportunity to publish plans to ensure a fair, open, and diverse community of residents, employees, political parties, and businesses in The Villages, and that they demonstrate a clear and continuing commitment to maintain a diverse community.

Additionally, we ask that they explicitly state what actions will be taken to reign in the types of behavior seen in the video.

Stu from NYC
07-05-2020, 12:11 PM
I believe you are making more of that incident that it merits

The entire video was not shown by the media as they want to show us in a bad light.

Jayhawk
07-05-2020, 12:12 PM
The recent Lake Sumter “white power” political confrontation exposed two issues in The Villages—the racial divisions and political divisions.

Continued silence by, the Morse family, the owners of the Villages, makes it appear that this type of confrontation with racial epithets is condoned in The Villages. Through their silence, the Morse’s are losing the opportunity to set the record straight.

As the political season heats up over the next months, there will be more political activities in the Villages, and potentially more heated clashes with racist tones and a possible threat of violence. Some current Villages residents report that they fear placing a Democratic sticker on their car because the car may be vandalized.

The image of the Villages as a racist and politically volatile community diminishes the value of the existing homes and lowers the expectations for future home sales.
We strongly urge the Morse family to capitalize on this as an opportunity to publish plans to ensure a fair, open, and diverse community of residents, employees, political parties, and businesses in The Villages, and that they demonstrate a clear and continuing commitment to maintain a diverse community.

Additionally, we ask that they explicitly state what actions will be taken to reign in the types of behavior seen in the video.

You don't really think they take recommendations for running their business from TOTV do you?

Would you let 120,000 strangers tell you how to run yours?

Velvet
07-05-2020, 12:12 PM
I believe you are making more of that incident that it merits

The entire video was not shown by the media as they want to show us in a bad light.

The whole video would give full context, but it is more dramatic to show only part of it so that people can draw the wrong conclusions.

Number 10 GI
07-05-2020, 12:16 PM
The Morse family doesn't own TV, the wife and I own a portion of it just like I assume you own a home here also. The Morse family may own the land where retail/commercial businesses rent the buildings but the streets are public property and they can't forbit anything on them.

Stu from NYC
07-05-2020, 12:30 PM
The whole video would give full context, but it is more dramatic to show only part of it so that people can draw the wrong conclusions.

Cannot take the media seriously at all anymore.

Number 10 GI
07-05-2020, 12:43 PM
Cannot take the media seriously at all anymore.

The media in this country is not in the business of reporting fact without bias. They are a propaganda machine only. When budding journalism majors in college are asked why they chose that field they say that they want to make a difference and change the world. In other words they are activists, not journalists.

Bogie Shooter
07-05-2020, 12:44 PM
The recent Lake Sumter “white power” political confrontation exposed two issues in The Villages—the racial divisions and political divisions.

Continued silence by, the Morse family, the owners of the Villages, makes it appear that this type of confrontation with racial epithets is condoned in The Villages. Through their silence, the Morse’s are losing the opportunity to set the record straight.

As the political season heats up over the next months, there will be more political activities in the Villages, and potentially more heated clashes with racist tones and a possible threat of violence. Some current Villages residents report that they fear placing a Democratic sticker on their car because the car may be vandalized.

The image of the Villages as a racist and politically volatile community diminishes the value of the existing homes and lowers the expectations for future home sales.
We strongly urge the Morse family to capitalize on this as an opportunity to publish plans to ensure a fair, open, and diverse community of residents, employees, political parties, and businesses in The Villages, and that they demonstrate a clear and continuing commitment to maintain a diverse community.

Additionally, we ask that they explicitly state what actions will be taken to reign in the types of behavior seen in the video.

You must have some definite steps that could be take to accomplish this, mind sharing with us.

skip0358
07-05-2020, 12:54 PM
The Media rarely posts good news just the bad ##it stirring stuff because that's what keeps people coming back to watch the next chapter and keeps the controversy going. Like pouring gas on a smoldering fire. Very very rarely will you ever get a response from the Morse family because this is their pot of Gold period. I myself like it that way.

Stu from NYC
07-05-2020, 02:09 PM
You must have some definite steps that could be take to accomplish this, mind sharing with us.

Cant wait to hear his response

billethkid
07-05-2020, 02:11 PM
The recent Lake Sumter “white power” political confrontation exposed two issues in The Villages—the racial divisions and political divisions.

Continued silence by, the Morse family, the owners of the Villages, makes it appear that this type of confrontation with racial epithets is condoned in The Villages. Through their silence, the Morse’s are losing the opportunity to set the record straight.

As the political season heats up over the next months, there will be more political activities in the Villages, and potentially more heated clashes with racist tones and a possible threat of violence. Some current Villages residents report that they fear placing a Democratic sticker on their car because the car may be vandalized.

The image of the Villages as a racist and politically volatile community diminishes the value of the existing homes and lowers the expectations for future home sales.
We strongly urge the Morse family to capitalize on this as an opportunity to publish plans to ensure a fair, open, and diverse community of residents, employees, political parties, and businesses in The Villages, and that they demonstrate a clear and continuing commitment to maintain a diverse community.

Additionally, we ask that they explicitly state what actions will be taken to reign in the types of behavior seen in the video.

Let's see 2 divided by 120,000 = .00001667
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
(being polite about it)

Villageswimmer
07-05-2020, 02:12 PM
I’m confident you mean well, but think you’re giving this person the attention she craves.

JimJohnson
07-05-2020, 02:21 PM
I find the Villages very representative of the American normal when it comes to racism. No more no less. Americans in general, both black and white are somewhat racist. It’s the fear we have of anything different than ourselves. Most Americans stereo type other races and religions into the worst category when in fact, there are wonderful people of every race and religion. We as humans always find a way to blame our own shortcomings on someone else.
I try to see the good in everyone.

billethkid
07-05-2020, 02:23 PM
I find the Villages very representative of the American normal when it comes to racism. No more no less. Americans in general, both black and white are somewhat racist. It’s the fear we have of anything different than ourselves. Most Americans stereo type other races and religions into the worst category when in fact, there are wonderful people of every race and religion. We as humans always find a way to blame our own shortcomings on someone else.
I try to see the good in everyone.

As does the majority of the population in America!!!

JoMar
07-05-2020, 02:25 PM
Still waiting for a response from the OP

Fredman
07-05-2020, 02:46 PM
The recent Lake Sumter “white power” political confrontation exposed two issues in The Villages—the racial divisions and political divisions.

Continued silence by, the Morse family, the owners of the Villages, makes it appear that this type of confrontation with racial epithets is condoned in The Villages. Through their silence, the Morse’s are losing the opportunity to set the record straight.

As the political season heats up over the next months, there will be more political activities in the Villages, and potentially more heated clashes with racist tones and a possible threat of violence. Some current Villages residents report that they fear placing a Democratic sticker on their car because the car may be vandalized.

The image of the Villages as a racist and politically volatile community diminishes the value of the existing homes and lowers the expectations for future home sales.
We strongly urge the Morse family to capitalize on this as an opportunity to publish plans to ensure a fair, open, and diverse community of residents, employees, political parties, and businesses in The Villages, and that they demonstrate a clear and continuing commitment to maintain a diverse community.

Additionally, we ask that they explicitly state what actions will be taken to reign in the types of behavior seen in the video.

So one guy yells white power and that is upsettIng. Well i am upset over those espousing black lives matter raising their right fists in a black power gesture.

Nucky
07-05-2020, 03:25 PM
From the OP:
We strongly urge the Morse family to capitalize on this as an opportunity to publish plans to ensure a fair, open, and diverse community of residents, employees, political parties, and businesses in The Villages, and that they demonstrate a clear and continuing commitment to maintain a diverse community.

Who is WE?

The guy in the Golf Cart clearly reacted to what was yelled at him from inside the 6-foot zone. Did she assault him with that action? You know how it's easy to tell it was a pure reaction? She then got in front of his Golf Cart and he didn't make a bad situation worse by doing the unthinkable. That would be some speed bump.

We don't wanna live like this. Everybody go to your corner and represent our New Homes Properly. I couldn't believe what I heard that lady barking into people's personal space? Are you kidding me!

P.S. The :1rotfl: Morrises :1rotfl: don't need to say NOTHING to NOBODY!

Boomer
07-05-2020, 03:47 PM
Phineas T. Barnum said, “There is no such thing as bad publicity.”

I do not think the Morse family ever will speak about the recent publicity. Business is business and the cash flow will continue.

BUT although the cash flow will go on, I think the recent publicity will tilt the dynamic of TV — an already tilted dynamic.

There will be some potential buyers — and owners — who are repulsed by what they see, not just in the video, but also in the underlying — and not so underlying — tone of the place — where the tilt is more and more in-your-face — with carts plastered with political bumper stickers, with their political flags waving............

We also see a lot of those political flags in front of houses. And, btw, running up that flag — you know the one I mean — on the same pole with our beloved American flag shows disrespect for “Old Glory.” That political flag is an advertisement. Flag etiquette states that we are NEVER to fly an advertisement on the same pole as the American flag. (State flags are allowed on the same pole.) But ignorance of flag etiquette surrounds us, just like ignorance of golf etiquette.

But, I digressed on etiquette — back to topic now, about those potential buyers under discussion: There also will be potential buyers who will be attracted to what they see because it taps into who they are — that might not show on the surface — yet. But now they can buy in and easily find their people.

And then (sigh) — Whatever will happen to manners and moderates? (I bet some of those who have been thinking about buying are wondering what the hell is going on so they might decide to watch and wait.)

TV is not what it used to be. That’s for sure.

Boomer

PS: For those of you who keep saying that the entire video was not posted in the media, I told you before that it was — on the NPR site.

Stu from NYC
07-05-2020, 04:28 PM
Phineas T. Barnum said, “There is no such thing as bad publicity.”

I do not think the Morse family ever will speak about the recent publicity. Business is business and the cash flow will continue.

BUT although the cash flow will go on, I think the recent publicity will tilt the dynamic of TV — an already tilted dynamic.

There will be some potential buyers — and owners — who are repulsed by what they see, not just in the video, but also in the underlying — and not so underlying — tone of the place — where the tilt is more and more in-your-face — with carts plastered with political bumper stickers, with their political flags waving............

We also see a lot of those political flags in front of houses. And, btw, running up that flag — you know the one I mean — on the same pole with our beloved American flag shows disrespect for “Old Glory.” That political flag is an advertisement. Flag etiquette states that we are NEVER to fly an advertisement on the same pole as the American flag. (State flags are allowed on the same pole.) But ignorance of flag etiquette surrounds us, just like ignorance of golf etiquette.

But, I digressed on etiquette — back to topic now, about those potential buyers under discussion: There also will be potential buyers who will be attracted to what they see because it taps into who they are — that might not show on the surface — yet. But now they can buy in and easily find their people.

And then (sigh) — Whatever will happen to manners and moderates? (I bet some of those who have been thinking about buying are wondering what the hell is going on so they might decide to watch and wait.)

TV is not what it used to be. That’s for sure.

Boomer

PS: For those of you who keep saying that the entire video was not posted in the media, I told you before that it was — on the NPR site.

I do not have a flagpole but a flag announcing your support for the President of the United States is fine by me.

One of the networks (think it is abc) has announced that to be objective their reporters are not allowed to wear a US pin on their lapel.

We are only here for 5 months but feels good to see all the flags outside our homes.

dewilson58
07-05-2020, 04:40 PM
Why do they NEED to speak out??


They are real estate developers.


Silly to think NEED.

stadry
07-05-2020, 04:52 PM
i think if 1 believes the morse family can change human behavior, you likely believe government can stop telemarketers too,,, before anyone gets their panties in a wad & tries to insert 'free speech' into the discussion, its not applicable,,, that amendment limits GOVERNMENTS only, NOT private concerns, you, OR me !

oldtimes
07-05-2020, 04:54 PM
Why do they NEED to speak out??


They are real estate developers.


Silly to think NEED.

I totally agree this is the most ridiculous idea yet.

Debfrommaine
07-05-2020, 05:24 PM
The Morse family has done a brilliant job creating The Villages, IMO. If folks aren't happy here, move. I did not buy my homes here to be baby sat by the Morse family nor would I buy any home anywhere and expect a developer to speak out on issues other than their business adventures. I understand your point but disagree the Morse family owes us anything more.

Boomer
07-05-2020, 06:25 PM
Phineas T. Barnum said, “There is no such thing as bad publicity.”

I do not think the Morse family ever will speak about the recent publicity. Business is business and tohe cash flow will continue.

BUT although the cash flow will go on, I think the recent publicity will tilt the dynamic of TV — an already tilted dynamic.

There will be some potential buyers — and owners — who are repulsed by what they see, not just in the video, but also in the underlying — and not so underlying — tone of the place — where the tilt is more and more in-your-face — with carts plastered with political bumper stickers, with their political flags waving............

We also see a lot of those political flags in front of houses. And, btw, running up that flag — you know the one I mean — on the same pole with our beloved American flag shows disrespect for “Old Glory.” That political flag is an advertisement. Flag etiquette states that we are NEVER to fly an advertisement on the same pole as the American flag. (State flags are allowed on the same pole.) But ignorance of flag etiquette surrounds us, just like ignorance of golf etiquette.

But, I digressed on etiquette — back to topic now, about those potential buyers under discussion: There also will be potential buyers who will be attracted to what they see because it taps into who they are — that might not show on the surface — yet. But now they can buy in and easily find their people.

And then (sigh) — Whatever will happen to manners and moderates? (I bet some of those who have been thinking about buying are wondering what the hell is going on so they might decide to watch and wait.)

TV is not what it used to be. That’s for sure.

Boomer

PS: For those of you who keep saying that the entire video was not posted in the media, I told you before that it was — on the NPR site.



I do not have a flagpole but a flag announcing your support for the President of the United States is fine by me.

One of the networks (think it is abc) has announced that to be objective their reporters are not allowed to wear a US pin on their lapel.

We are only here for 5 months but feels good to see all the flags outside our homes.



Hold on there, Stu from NYC,

Don’t take me out of context and try to imply that I am somehow anti-American flag. That is exactly what you were doing in your last sentence — but I guess you could always say you “did not hear it.”

If you re-read my post (quoted above) you should see that my explanation of flag etiquette is in defense of the American flag.

To run a political flag up the same pole is to hijack our American flag. I am tired of our American flag being hijacked — and that is what is happening.

I just looked more closely at the flag code which says, “The POW/MIA flag, a state flag, a US territories flag, and military flags can be displayed on the same pole as the American flag.” — but any other kind of flag does not belong there.

The flag we so often see here, sharing the pole with our American flag, is an advertisement — and that is a definite breach of flag etiquette which says, “It is never acceptable to fly a company flag, corporate banners, or any other form of branding/ advertising on the same pole as the American flag.”

While I am doing this little review here with you, how about let’s recite the Pledge together.........

And please do not forget that pesky part that says, “one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

Sincerely,
Betsy Ross Boomer

Lindsyburnsy
07-05-2020, 06:49 PM
Unfortunately, it worked. TV is definitely being talked about everywhere we go and it isn't flattering at all.

Jayhawk
07-05-2020, 06:57 PM
Unfortunately, it worked. TV is definitely being talked about everywhere we go and it isn't flattering at all.

Seriously? Where did you go to hear this? Because we go quite a few places and have not heard one negative comment about The Villages, only about the Nut Job with the nasty comments on his cart signs about the United States President, who got the recent stuff started in the first place.

Stu from NYC
07-05-2020, 09:04 PM
Hold on there, Stu from NYC,

Don’t take me out of context and try to imply that I am somehow anti-American flag. That is exactly what you were doing in your last sentence — but I guess you could always say you “did not hear it.”

If you re-read my post (quoted above) you should see that my explanation of flag etiquette is in defense of the American flag.

To run a political flag up the same pole is to hijack our American flag. I am tired of our American flag being hijacked — and that is what is happening.

I just looked more closely at the flag code which says, “The POW/MIA flag, a state flag, a US territories flag, and military flags can be displayed on the same pole as the American flag.” — but any other kind of flag does not belong there.

The flag we so often see here, sharing the pole with our American flag, is an advertisement — and that is a definite breach of flag etiquette which says, “It is never acceptable to fly a company flag, corporate banners, or any other form of branding/ advertising on the same pole as the American flag.”

While I am doing this little review here with you, how about let’s recite the Pledge together.........

And please do not forget that pesky part that says, “one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

Sincerely,
Betsy Ross Boomer

Your digression paragraph made me think you were saying something different than what you were actually saying so please accept my apology.

Is Betsy Ross Boomer your real name? If so what a great name.

Stu from NYC

maryl
07-06-2020, 04:42 AM
The Villages is becoming a less desirable place to retire in glad I didn’t by there

Tom2172
07-06-2020, 04:48 AM
No they don’t
It was a nothing burger!
Take a walk

dewilson58
07-06-2020, 05:05 AM
Unfortunately, it worked. TV is definitely being talked about everywhere we go and it isn't flattering at all.


Nothing new........Haters hate.

Shadia328
07-06-2020, 05:33 AM
Well said! Agree completely!

La lamy
07-06-2020, 05:36 AM
This post is just to create dissension. It’s political only and should be removed and the poster banned for a week.

I disagree. I believe this post is about making sure we feel safe living in TV and for all of us to know we need to remain civil while having differences of opinions. Pretty basic democratic tenets.

DrBrutyle109
07-06-2020, 05:40 AM
I work for a Villages entity. The Morse family has already addressed this issue directly with us. The actions of ONE do not reflect the entire community.

donaldarney@gmail.com
07-06-2020, 06:09 AM
Only cause More conversation it is not their fight. Keep it in the news longer. Let it go there is no win or lose.

ficoguy
07-06-2020, 06:10 AM
I think that happened on public property, right? The lame stream media loves picking on The Villages.