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LoisR
07-06-2020, 10:26 AM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.

tophcfa
07-06-2020, 10:29 AM
So few don’t know so much about everything, they just think they do.

Ecuadog
07-06-2020, 10:32 AM
How do so few know so much about everything?
...

I don't know.

vintageogauge
07-06-2020, 10:39 AM
They are like teachers and parents.

onejld
07-06-2020, 10:41 AM
it's not easy being the worlds foremost expert on hearsay, but saying things with authority will make people believe it

VApeople
07-06-2020, 10:49 AM
We know more than you because we are smarter and better informed.

We are also better looking.

BS Beef
07-06-2020, 10:50 AM
:1rotfl: :1rotfl: :bigbow: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

Big O
07-06-2020, 11:06 AM
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know everything or nothing about it."

Henry Kissinger

Velvet
07-06-2020, 11:07 AM
We know more than you because we are smarter and better informed.

We are also better looking.

And you are sooo lucky to have us!

manaboutown
07-06-2020, 11:10 AM
They have crystal balls so they can see all, know all.

Number 10 GI
07-06-2020, 11:21 AM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.

You are posting your opinion, why is it any more true than anyone else's? There are a lot of "facts" posted here, just because you disagree doesn't make them invalid.

Stu from NYC
07-06-2020, 12:01 PM
You are posting your opinion, why is it any more true than anyone else's? There are a lot of "facts" posted here, just because you disagree doesn't make them invalid.

Took the words right out of my mouth

retiredguy123
07-06-2020, 12:31 PM
You are posting your opinion, why is it any more true than anyone else's? There are a lot of "facts" posted here, just because you disagree doesn't make them invalid.
I agree. There are a lot of posts that claim to state a fact, and if it is wrong, it will be quickly corrected by another poster. That is good.

But, everyone is entitled to an opinion about anything. Opinions should not be corrected.

billethkid
07-06-2020, 12:56 PM
Some think what they know they know is more than everybody else knows.

Separate and apart from those that think they know what they don't know.

But how do they know they don't know?

If they knew what they did not know then it would just be part of what they know.

Right?

bandsdavis
07-06-2020, 01:02 PM
It seems to me that Parkinson's Law, "Work expands to fit the time alloted to it", also applies to opinions. And the more time available, the more opinions offered. Including by me!

Stu from NYC
07-06-2020, 01:40 PM
Some think what they know they know is more than everybody else knows.

Separate and apart from those that think they know what they don't know.

But how do they know they don't know?

If they knew what they did not know then it would just be part of what they know.

Right?

Color be confused by what you know and what you do not know.:a040:

retiredguy123
07-06-2020, 01:42 PM
How do so few know so much about everything?

It's human nature. Some people live their lives by constanting questioning things and learning as much as they can about everything they can. And, they retain that knowledge. Other people don't seem to care about expanding their knowledge. They often make the same mistakes over and over again, and don't learn from them. And, they don't retain much knowledge.

karostay
07-06-2020, 01:45 PM
So few don’t know so much about everything, they just think they do.


Monday morning quarter backs come to mind...What left of it LOL

queasy27
07-06-2020, 01:51 PM
Opinions and even misinformation don't bother me, but I surely wish people would read all the comments before adding their own. There are times when a simple question has been quickly answered, yet people still keep adding replies that are duplicates, incorrect, or off-topic.

mamamia54
07-06-2020, 02:33 PM
Everyone is an expert

Expert, one who knows more and more about less and less until they know absolutely everything there is to know about nothing.

Hopeful2
07-06-2020, 03:31 PM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.

I totally agree with you! :bigbow:

retiredguy123
07-06-2020, 03:53 PM
Opinions and even misinformation don't bother me, but I surely wish people would read all the comments before adding their own. There are times when a simple question has been quickly answered, yet people still keep adding replies that are duplicates, incorrect, or off-topic.
I agree. There was a recent thread where the OP clearly stated that he wanted to know where he could get fingerprints taken that was "currently" open. There were 47 posts, and almost all of them directed OP to go to a place that was not doing fingerprinting.

New Englander
07-06-2020, 03:55 PM
I don't know nuttin, and I can prove it.

Topspinmo
07-06-2020, 05:04 PM
Well, I may not be write. BUT, I’m Never wrang!!:icon_wink:

oldtimes
07-06-2020, 05:49 PM
What bothers me is that every study/report/internet link that people post to support their infinite knowledge was paid for by some entity with an agenda to promote. The answer is never simple but often has many facets to consider and anyone who claims that their way is absolute is a fool.

Velvet
07-06-2020, 05:50 PM
Everyone is an expert

Expert, one who knows more and more about less and less until they know absolutely everything there is to know about nothing.

Definition of a PhD candidate .. lol

retiredguy123
07-06-2020, 06:10 PM
I thought an expert was a guy with a beard from out of town.

George Page
07-07-2020, 05:44 AM
I dunno

Michael Charles
07-07-2020, 06:01 AM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.

Something I heard many years ago.

"Those of us who know everything are annoyed by those of you who think you do"

dewilson58
07-07-2020, 06:19 AM
I thought an expert was a guy with a beard from out of town.


Briefcase. An expert has a briefcase. :coolsmiley:

amdubuc
07-07-2020, 06:22 AM
I have done so much. With so little. For so long.
I am now qualified to do anything. With nothing.

As I frequently tell my Bride.
“Honey I can do it all. Just not all at once”!

MandoMan
07-07-2020, 06:37 AM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.

I’m laughing about this. You are right that lots of people here have opinions not backed up by much information. Oh well! It’s sort of like a democracy: if there are as many idiots on their side as there are on our side, the votes balance out, more or less, or at least don’t swing too far one way or the other.

For nearly my entire life, I’ve loved learning things and learning how to do things, and I’ve also loved sharing what I’ve learned. Despite that, I feel that I’ve learned more in the past couple years than in the rest of my life. Now I’m not strong or fit or fast enough to do some of the things I used to do, like construction projects. In a few years I’ll be dead—as will we all. It bothers me that all this knowledge will disappear, just as I’m finally learning something! I spent 43 years teaching at universities. I was learning constantly so I could enrich my lectures. It wasn’t enough, say, for me to teach a Shakespeare play. I had to learn the history of the time in which it was set. I had to learn what the music was like, and the food, and the art, and the clothing. I had to learn how the people in various social classes lived in that specific period. It was so much fun! I like to think some of the students enjoyed my lectures. Perhaps I was fooling myself.

When I got a job as a janitor in a hospital operating room as a high school dropout when I was seventeen, I grew interested in becoming an operating room technician and began reading textbooks about it. Six months later I was doing it full time. When I needed to know how to fix things and design and build things because I couldn’t usually afford to hire experts, I subscribed to professional building journals and read them cover to cover. I still do, decades later. I became interested in Bible stories and theology and ended up editing a large professional theological journal for ten years. I’ve designed and built or rebuilt several houses. I became interested in Swing music and learned to play it and sing it. I became interested in playing the mandolin and ended up writing a book about it. I became interested in Brazilian Choro music and just published a book about it. I LOVE doing these things! I love SHARING these things.

People ask a lot of questions here. If I don’t have an answer, it’s a lot of fun to do some research online and find an answer. It’s fulfilling to weigh various opinions and studies and figure out which are the strongest. I try to be accurate. I try not to just share “my two cents.”

I’ve noticed a number of people on here who are doing what I do. You know who they are. I like it that they often have information I don’t have. I learn from them, and maybe they learn a little from me. As hobbies go, this one is pretty satisfying.

But even when people post who don’t really have much to add, they enjoy it. Good for them! Their two cents, at the least, keeps them reading and learning.

J1ceasar
07-07-2020, 06:59 AM
It's the 80/20 rule. 20% of us I'm more than willing to write our opinion or give out information while the other to 80% want to just read. Whether we're right or not doesn't really matter we're having a pinion that you don't agree with or do are you with. We enjoy expounding our views. There's nothing wrong with that. You obviously enjoy thinking you know everything just the opposite of everybody else. That's okay in my book. I only get upset when it's obvious it's an opinion not backed by fact or reasonable Theory expanded upon. As my father would say how do you know that's not a totally different Sun from yesterday we didn't see it for 12 hours

J1ceasar
07-07-2020, 07:00 AM
By the way the Earth is flat and The Villages is the center of the world, obviously by what everyone says here.

jbrown132
07-07-2020, 07:04 AM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.

In reality, these people have probably studied more and more about less and less until they finally know nothing about anything.

4557Spahr
07-07-2020, 07:17 AM
Just look at the top right corner of a post and you will see how much responders know. It amazes me.

2mnydogs
07-07-2020, 07:23 AM
An expert is one who remains silent and lets others make fools of themselves.

GoodLife
07-07-2020, 08:26 AM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.

So far this topic has generated 3 pages of comments with 0 facts 100% opinions.


If the intent is to stifle, it's not working. :)

Scorpyo
07-07-2020, 08:26 AM
I agree. There was a recent thread where the OP clearly stated that he wanted to know where he could get fingerprints taken that was "currently" open. There were 47 posts, and almost all of them directed OP to go to a place that was not doing fingerprinting.
I looked at this a little differently. The posts that directed the OP to places that were no longer fingerprinting were simply pointing out places where fingerprinting had previously been performed. I looked at it as giving the OP a place to start looking into, not a place to actually physically go. Should the responders have done the research for the OP and see if those places were still fingerprinting? If that is what the OP expected then the OP should have simply said, please research fingerprinting locations and inform me which ones are still active. I'm sure that request would have been gladly performed. Actually I wish the request was written like that. The responses would have been hilarious.

Scorpyo
07-07-2020, 08:29 AM
So far this topic has generated 3 pages of comments with 0 facts 100% opinions.


If the intent is to stifle, it's not working. :)
You are absolutely wrong. What you stated is a fact, therefore, that makes 1. Oh wait a minute. What I just stated about what you stated is a fact, therefore that makes 2. Oh no, what I again stated.................Forget it I'm tired.

ffresh
07-07-2020, 08:33 AM
The answer is never simple but often has many facets to consider and anyone who claims that their way is absolute is a fool.

Reminds me of the following exchange (uttered with the proper inflections, of course):
A: are you sure about that?
B: I'm positive

A: only fools are positive
B: are you sure?

A: I'm positive

Fred

GoodLife
07-07-2020, 08:39 AM
You are absolutely wrong. What you stated is a fact, therefore, that makes 1. Oh wait a minute. What I just stated about what you stated is a fact, therefore that makes 2. Oh no, what I again stated.................Forget it I'm tired.

Hah! You are very observant! Perhaps we can raise the facts/opinions ratio.

Madelaine Amee
07-07-2020, 08:51 AM
Alan Alda, late of Mash, wrote a little book on communication and entitled it "Would I be Looking at you Like This if I Understood What you Said".

................. and my Mother used to say "never mind dear, empty vessels make the most noise" ......

retiredguy123
07-07-2020, 09:26 AM
I looked at this a little differently. The posts that directed the OP to places that were no longer fingerprinting were simply pointing out places where fingerprinting had previously been performed. I looked at it as giving the OP a place to start looking into, not a place to actually physically go. Should the responders have done the research for the OP and see if those places were still fingerprinting? If that is what the OP expected then the OP should have simply said, please research fingerprinting locations and inform me which ones are still active. I'm sure that request would have been gladly performed. Actually I wish the request was written like that. The responses would have been hilarious.
Just to clarify, in that thread, the OP had already done research and he said so. He also said:

"Please only respond if you were successful finding an office that is currently open."

Johnsocat
07-07-2020, 09:35 AM
The ability to reason is a gift from God. Failure to use it is to deny His gift.

BarryD
07-07-2020, 12:05 PM
My opinion is that this is one of the most enjoyable threads I have read in a long time. And I am sticking by my opinion. https://d32rzbb554tqz0.cloudfront.net/forums/images/smilies/clap2.gif

Don45
07-07-2020, 12:26 PM
Expert = Drip under pressure!

jimjamuser
07-07-2020, 12:37 PM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind. Partial answer-"Are we NOT men? And for extra credit, name the famous movie that that quote comes from?????

jimjamuser
07-07-2020, 12:53 PM
I’m laughing about this. You are right that lots of people here have opinions not backed up by much information. Oh well! It’s sort of like a democracy: if there are as many idiots on their side as there are on our side, the votes balance out, more or less, or at least don’t swing too far one way or the other.

For nearly my entire life, I’ve loved learning things and learning how to do things, and I’ve also loved sharing what I’ve learned. Despite that, I feel that I’ve learned more in the past couple years than in the rest of my life. Now I’m not strong or fit or fast enough to do some of the things I used to do, like construction projects. In a few years I’ll be dead—as will we all. It bothers me that all this knowledge will disappear, just as I’m finally learning something! I spent 43 years teaching at universities. I was learning constantly so I could enrich my lectures. It wasn’t enough, say, for me to teach a Shakespeare play. I had to learn the history of the time in which it was set. I had to learn what the music was like, and the food, and the art, and the clothing. I had to learn how the people in various social classes lived in that specific period. It was so much fun! I like to think some of the students enjoyed my lectures. Perhaps I was fooling myself.

When I got a job as a janitor in a hospital operating room as a high school dropout when I was seventeen, I grew interested in becoming an operating room technician and began reading textbooks about it. Six months later I was doing it full time. When I needed to know how to fix things and design and build things because I couldn’t usually afford to hire experts, I subscribed to professional building journals and read them cover to cover. I still do, decades later. I became interested in Bible stories and theology and ended up editing a large professional theological journal for ten years. I’ve designed and built or rebuilt several houses. I became interested in Swing music and learned to play it and sing it. I became interested in playing the mandolin and ended up writing a book about it. I became interested in Brazilian Choro music and just published a book about it. I LOVE doing these things! I love SHARING these things.

People ask a lot of questions here. If I don’t have an answer, it’s a lot of fun to do some research online and find an answer. It’s fulfilling to weigh various opinions and studies and figure out which are the strongest. I try to be accurate. I try not to just share “my two cents.”

I’ve noticed a number of people on here who are doing what I do. You know who they are. I like it that they often have information I don’t have. I learn from them, and maybe they learn a little from me. As hobbies go, this one is pretty satisfying.

But even when people post who don’t really have much to add, they enjoy it. Good for them! Their two cents, at the least, keeps them reading and learning.
Holy Ka/Ka snacks Bat Person that's cat-like - nine lives. Made a mistake leaving that janitor job. That's a nice career. Just my 5 cents (with inflation) (sweeping the nation). Do you need a Robin?

jimjamuser
07-07-2020, 12:56 PM
It's the 80/20 rule. 20% of us I'm more than willing to write our opinion or give out information while the other to 80% want to just read. Whether we're right or not doesn't really matter we're having a pinion that you don't agree with or do are you with. We enjoy expounding our views. There's nothing wrong with that. You obviously enjoy thinking you know everything just the opposite of everybody else. That's okay in my book. I only get upset when it's obvious it's an opinion not backed by fact or reasonable Theory expanded upon. As my father would say how do you know that's not a totally different Sun from yesterday we didn't see it for 12 hours
I wonder about the visually impaired?

jimjamuser
07-07-2020, 01:05 PM
Just look at the top right corner of a post and you will see how much responders know. It amazes me.
The number of thanks?
the thanks for the pranks
or the thanks for the spanks?

jimjamuser
07-07-2020, 01:18 PM
So far this topic has generated 3 pages of comments with 0 facts 100% opinions.


If the intent is to stifle, it's not working. :)
Is that 2 cents worth?

jimjamuser
07-07-2020, 01:21 PM
You are absolutely wrong. What you stated is a fact, therefore, that makes 1. Oh wait a minute. What I just stated about what you stated is a fact, therefore that makes 2. Oh no, what I again stated.................Forget it I'm tired.
Oh, nap time for us childrensssssss.

jimjamuser
07-07-2020, 01:28 PM
Well, the way i see it and perhaps i too see it from a distorted vantage point. One source of the narcissist talking point is the hair stylists and other patrons. Rarely will you find one of these people with the ability to apply Occam's razor to simplify matters. BUT the guy that knows it all has an accute case of the "Dunning Kruger Effect" God bless America
I had a hairstylist for a Professor at the University that I attended.
Yes, Florida is #1 and not in football!

coffeebean
07-07-2020, 03:44 PM
You are posting your opinion, why is it any more true than anyone else's? There are a lot of "facts" posted here, just because you disagree doesn't make them invalid.

Agree. Many times facts are posted with links to back up those facts.

fdpaq0580
07-07-2020, 04:15 PM
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind. Partial answer-"Are we NOT men? And for extra credit, name the famous movie that that quote comes from?????

Goodie Goodie. I think I'm going to get extra credit. Please note I did not google this answer.
The movie was "Island of lost souls" aka "The Island of Doctor Moreau". The person who said those words was Bela Lugosi who played the "the keeper of the law ". And, if memory serves, the doctor was played by Charles Laughton. The good doctor was using vivesection to turn animals into humans.
Do I win???

villageidiot1
07-07-2020, 06:49 PM
One thing I learned from my grandad that saved me a lot of worrisome dialog. "Never match wits with a half wit, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

jimjamuser
07-07-2020, 08:19 PM
Goodie Goodie. I think I'm going to get extra credit. Please note I did not google this answer.
The movie was "Island of lost souls" aka "The Island of Doctor Moreau". The person who said those words was Bela Lugosi who played the "the keeper of the law ". And, if memory serves, the doctor was played by Charles Laughton. The good doctor was using vivesection to turn animals into humans.
Do I win???
I was thinking of the remake with Brad Pitt. But you got the original so I think that I owe you a beer, Congratulations for playing.

Stu from NYC
07-07-2020, 09:05 PM
Not sure if I am considered a no it all but this has given me an idea.

Via the enrichment academy will start a class on
Now You can be a No It All in six easy lessons for a price of only pennies a day
(might be a lot of pennies though)

Two Bills
07-08-2020, 04:37 AM
All my facts come from the internet, so I must be right.

stan the man
07-08-2020, 07:07 AM
Maybe maximum of 2 (two) posts per day. Stop the numbers race

Topspinmo
07-08-2020, 07:27 AM
I know this has been written about before, but it is still entertaining to see the same responders (first responders?) offering their wisdom to anything that comes by them.
Facts seem to be optional. So are objectively researched responses, the use of non-perjorative statements, and a well needed reflective pause prior to responding, rather than being the first kid on the block at 5 am.
A guess ole Archie Bunker was right after all when he stated: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Perhaps his words to Edith to "stiffle it " would be more appropo.

What did you expect? It’s forum

Marshaw
07-08-2020, 11:05 AM
You must be an attorney or engineer. Am I right? I get all my info right here. Can't go wrong. Cmon these are me neighbors.

The Mountaineer
07-08-2020, 12:40 PM
My 43 years as a newspaper editor taught me to research the hell out of a topic before I made my evaluation and posted. No one is right every time. And I evaluate by actions, not the person or the political party. An IDENTICAL action should be good or bad, moral or immoral, corrupt or uplifting, no matter who does it.

ffresh
07-08-2020, 12:47 PM
My 43 years as a newspaper editor taught me to research the hell out of a topic before I made my evaluation and posted. No one is right every time. And I evaluate by actions, not the person or the political party. An IDENTICAL action should be good or bad, moral or immoral, corrupt or uplifting, no matter who does it.

You have a very refreshing attitude and, it goes without saying, admirably correct. We could only wish that the newspaper/online journalists operated in a like manner, today. :icon_wink:

Fred

Stu from NYC
07-08-2020, 01:07 PM
My 43 years as a newspaper editor taught me to research the hell out of a topic before I made my evaluation and posted. No one is right every time. And I evaluate by actions, not the person or the political party. An IDENTICAL action should be good or bad, moral or immoral, corrupt or uplifting, no matter who does it.

Wish journalists and their editors would do the same.

Madelaine Amee
07-08-2020, 02:10 PM
In this polarized world of ours, I don't think it really matters whether reporters or editors of either newspapers or TV outlets research their projects, it really comes down to what we want to believe.

Someone can research the hell out of a subject, but if you do not like that newspaper or that TV channel you are not going to believe anything they say or report.

I am old enough to remember when people would sit around listening to Walter Conkite as though his word was Gospel. What about Edward R. Morrow, Huntley and Brinkley. We never questioned what they told us was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the the truth. Today, it would be a different story, NOBODY trusts their Government and NOBODY trusts the news unless it is being reported by their party. If this had happened during any of the great wars we would have been in deep trouble.

BossLady
07-08-2020, 02:43 PM
My father, an eccentric man from out West, used used to tell me “ THinK fOr yOursELf”. I added the crazy capital letters to emphasize his point.

Reconsider FACTS from every source. E-v-e-r-y source. Fact, a FACT, the absolute undeniable “what happened” fact, vs. opinion, what someone thinks about it - make the distinction first. Just cuz someone says it, anyone, Any doctor, any person, any book, anywhere, in a news article online, doesn’t make it a fact. I’ll add “Listen to your gut”. That feeling in the stomach is real. Investigate and then reimagine the scenario ten different ways. After that, you’re closer to the ”truth” for yourself. Think for yourself. My dad, He’ll never know I hear his voice in my head saying ”Think for yourself”everyday. Freedom, Fighting, on all sides, for free thought ~ thank the stars I’m an American and I am free.

Bill32
07-10-2020, 08:36 AM
My father, an eccentric man from out West, used used to tell me “ THinK fOr yOursELf”. I added the crazy capital letters to emphasize his point.

Reconsider FACTS from every source. E-v-e-r-y source. Fact, a FACT, the absolute undeniable “what happened” fact, vs. opinion, what someone thinks about it - make the distinction first. Just cuz someone says it, anyone, Any doctor, any person, any book, anywhere, in a news article online, doesn’t make it a fact. I’ll add “Listen to your gut”. That feeling in the stomach is real. Investigate and then reimagine the scenario ten different ways. After that, you’re closer to the ”truth” for yourself. Think for yourself. My dad, He’ll never know I hear his voice in my head saying ”Think for yourself”everyday. Freedom, Fighting, on all sides, for free thought ~ thank the stars I’m an American and I am free.

I agree, after initial gut feeling and common sense don't over think the issue. That works with us " old" folks that have history and life experience to draw on, trouble with our youth they rely on their educators and social media for truth, not history.....but those those only provide "truth" as they see it, sad but pretty obvious to me...

Treesa
07-10-2020, 02:19 PM
:ho: Hats off to poster #7!

Stu from NYC
07-10-2020, 03:34 PM
In this polarized world of ours, I don't think it really matters whether reporters or editors of either newspapers or TV outlets research their projects, it really comes down to what we want to believe.

Someone can research the hell out of a subject, but if you do not like that newspaper or that TV channel you are not going to believe anything they say or report.

I am old enough to remember when people would sit around listening to Walter Conkite as though his word was Gospel. What about Edward R. Morrow, Huntley and Brinkley. We never questioned what they told us was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the the truth. Today, it would be a different story, NOBODY trusts their Government and NOBODY trusts the news unless it is being reported by their party. If this had happened during any of the great wars we would have been in deep trouble.

Have to disagree. Stations have their slants and the stories are shown that way.

CNN posts outrageous stories about politicians they do not like and conservative stations do it their way.

What is sad is that reporters are not acting in the best interests of America at a time of great trouble.

Madelaine Amee
07-10-2020, 04:24 PM
Have to disagree. Stations have their slants and the stories are shown that way.

CNN posts outrageous stories about politicians they do not like and conservative stations do it their way.

What is sad is that reporters are not acting in the best interests of America at a time of great trouble.

Completely disagree with your position. All news is political, CNN or Fox, all political, it just depends which party you follow as to what you watch and believe.

karostay
07-10-2020, 04:44 PM
How does so many know so little.
They passed it on to their siblings and it sure shows

Stu from NYC
07-10-2020, 06:17 PM
Completely disagree with your position. All news is political, CNN or Fox, all political, it just depends which party you follow as to what you watch and believe.

But the media decides what to cover and often only covers stories that allow them to do it according to their vieew.

Bay Kid
07-11-2020, 07:16 AM
We stayed at a Holiday Express last night.

Stu from NYC
07-11-2020, 08:02 AM
We stayed at a Holiday Express last night.

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dewilson58
07-11-2020, 08:03 AM
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