Slow Play and Ambassadors

[billmcnall]

Is it too much to ask the ambassadors to do their job. Twice in the past 10 days we had 3 groups on the tee, one in the fairway and one on the green. On both of these days, we were pounded by a rainstorm on the 17th hole and were unable to finish. We should have been finished before the rain started if we moved at a normal pace instead of 20 minutes on every hole for the last 5 holes. Ambassadors don't do anything except deliver sand if needed and wave to you and thank you for coming out. They don't realize the aggravation of waiting 5 minutes to hit every shot or waiting 20 minutes on a tee box to start a hole. The group causing the slow down has an enjoyable day while every other group on the course has a miserable day. I think it's better to anger one group than to have every other group behind them angry about the slow play.
Ambassadors, please do your job!

[Number 10 GI]

Then that group that was angered comes on here and posts how they were rushed by a jerk ambassador who should be doing his job instead of harassing them. As much as I read posts about how bad it is to play golf why do people still do it? Self flagellation to purify their soul?

[dewilson58]

Were they slow according to the chart, cumulatively??

[anothersteve]

20 minutes on every hole? Now I find that to be a bit of a stretch.

Steve

[davefin]

Please lighten up and enjoy the game. What's the rush?

[Polar Bear]

Please lighten up and enjoy the game. What's the rush?
I agree with your basic sentiment. But if you’ve ever played behind a truly slow group for an extended period, you know that you don’t have to be in a ‘rush’ to be frustrated.

[fdpaq0580]

I agree with your basic sentiment. But if you’ve ever played behind a truly slow group for an extended period, you know that you don’t have to be in a ‘rush’ to be frustrated.

I agree that it can be frustrating, but some folks sound like they are trying to get in eighteen holes on their lunch hour. I always thought golf was supposed to be a relaxing and friendly sport. For the experts who play so well that they never flub a few shots, remember when you started it probably took you as long. Also, as you get older you may lose some of your strength and speed and become that slow poke.
Also, whatever happened to politely asking if you could "play through"? Give it a try next time you find yourself at the tee with the slow pokes. Never hurts to ask.

Stay well. Stay safe. Tell us about your next hole in one. Peace!

[karostay]

What no dog poop ?
This horse has been ridden more times than Secretariat
Don't play no disappointments

[HIgolfers]

I agree that it can be frustrating, but some folks sound like they are trying to get in eighteen holes on their lunch hour. I always thought golf was supposed to be a relaxing and friendly sport. For the experts who play so well that they never flub a few shots, remember when you started it probably took you as long. Also, as you get older you may lose some of your strength and speed and become that slow poke.
Also, whatever happened to politely asking if you could "play through"? Give it a try next time you find yourself at the tee with the slow pokes. Never hurts to ask.

Stay well. Stay safe. Tell us about your next hole in one. Peace!

You obviously don’t golf in TV. Playing through is definitely frowned upon here. In fact I actually don’t think it is even permitted.

[fdpaq0580]

You obviously don’t golf in TV. Playing through is definitely frowned upon here. In fact I actually don’t think it is even permitted.

Sorry if playing through is not a viable option.
Actually, used to play here, but my golfing buddy and best friend here died a couple or years ago, I have only been out once since that time. As for getting back out on the course and making new golfing friends, I have had problems as a result of cataract surgery that makes it hard to follow the ball in flight, along with vertigo that screws up my swing. As if my game wasn't bad enough already. Although I would love to play again, don't encourage me or you will have one more extremely old geezer out there trying to find his, uhh, golf balls.
Go out and have a great time and leave the anger for the things that truly matter.

Stay well. Stay safe. Peace!

[Bogie Shooter]

Is it too much to ask the ambassadors to do their job. Twice in the past 10 days we had 3 groups on the tee, one in the fairway and one on the green. On both of these days, we were pounded by a rainstorm on the 17th hole and were unable to finish. We should have been finished before the rain started if we moved at a normal pace instead of 20 minutes on every hole for the last 5 holes. Ambassadors don't do anything except deliver sand if needed and wave to you and thank you for coming out. They don't realize the aggravation of waiting 5 minutes to hit every shot or waiting 20 minutes on a tee box to start a hole. The group causing the slow down has an enjoyable day while every other group on the course has a miserable day. I think it's better to anger one group than to have every other group behind them angry about the slow play.
Ambassadors, please do your job!

You did not say if you talked to an ambassador or stopped by the pro shop and talked to the pro.
What good does it do to post this long winded story here?

[birdiebill]

Perhaps some groups play at a "normal" pace and others play much faster. We got frustrated one day because we seemed to have to wait at each tee on the group ahead. But when we finished the round, we were surprised to find we had played in 3 hours and 30 minutes. We actually played ahead of the "chart time". If we finish in less than 4 hours, we are happy. The slow down usually occurs when we make the turn for the second nine. Fast first nine, then catch the wave for the second nine.

[JoMar]

Ambassadors in TV aren't what Ambassadors are outside the bubble which is what you are basing your "do their job" comment. Hate to break it to you but they are doing their jobs. sand, water (at some point), wave, time your play but take no action since they have no authority and if they try, they could lose their jobs.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Is it too much to ask the ambassadors to do their job. Twice in the past 10 days we had 3 groups on the tee, one in the fairway and one on the green. On both of these days, we were pounded by a rainstorm on the 17th hole and were unable to finish. We should have been finished before the rain started if we moved at a normal pace instead of 20 minutes on every hole for the last 5 holes. Ambassadors don't do anything except deliver sand if needed and wave to you and thank you for coming out. They don't realize the aggravation of waiting 5 minutes to hit every shot or waiting 20 minutes on a tee box to start a hole. The group causing the slow down has an enjoyable day while every other group on the course has a miserable day. I think it's better to anger one group than to have every other group behind them angry about the slow play.
Ambassadors, please do your job!

You seriously think complaining on here is going to get the job done? :popcorn:

Call the Golf Shop, ask for a Staff Supervisor and voice your concern; that would be the logical thing to do; the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

[ONTAP15]

Where have I heard this before?? I just can't place it....

[Bogie Shooter]

Where have I heard this before?? I just can't place it....

First time since March.......

[DonH57]

Is it too much to ask the ambassadors to do their job. Twice in the past 10 days we had 3 groups on the tee, one in the fairway and one on the green. On both of these days, we were pounded by a rainstorm on the 17th hole and were unable to finish. We should have been finished before the rain started if we moved at a normal pace instead of 20 minutes on every hole for the last 5 holes. Ambassadors don't do anything except deliver sand if needed and wave to you and thank you for coming out. They don't realize the aggravation of waiting 5 minutes to hit every shot or waiting 20 minutes on a tee box to start a hole. The group causing the slow down has an enjoyable day while every other group on the course has a miserable day. I think it's better to anger one group than to have every other group behind them angry about the slow play.
Ambassadors, please do your job!

Just wandering if you completed 17 holes what prevented you finishing the last hole, daylight? The only reason I ask because I've played with people who couldn't wait out a brief shower because they had to keep to a set schedule like they were at work!:1rotfl:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

20 minutes on every hole? Now I find that to be a bit of a stretch.

Steve

Not that much of a stretch. A four hour round works out to be 13.33 minutes per hole. Many courses enforce a 14 minute per hole limit. If you have two players in a group that are very slow, it would be easy for them to tack on and additional six minutes.

[shut the front door]

Just wandering if you completed 17 holes what prevented you finishing the last hole, daylight? The only reason I ask because I've played with people who couldn't wait out a brief shower because they had to keep to a set schedule like they were at work!:1rotfl:

Every rain storm we have had in the last 10 days has had lightning and thunder. Anyone who would stay on a golf course during lightning is stupid.

[graciegirl]

Is it too much to ask the ambassadors to do their job. Twice in the past 10 days we had 3 groups on the tee, one in the fairway and one on the green. On both of these days, we were pounded by a rainstorm on the 17th hole and were unable to finish. We should have been finished before the rain started if we moved at a normal pace instead of 20 minutes on every hole for the last 5 holes. Ambassadors don't do anything except deliver sand if needed and wave to you and thank you for coming out. They don't realize the aggravation of waiting 5 minutes to hit every shot or waiting 20 minutes on a tee box to start a hole. The group causing the slow down has an enjoyable day while every other group on the course has a miserable day. I think it's better to anger one group than to have every other group behind them angry about the slow play.
Ambassadors, please do your job!

You are not at your home golf course anymore. The Villages Official response is to not tell any person here what to do. So don't be mad at the Ambassadors. They aren't MARSHALS. They will not tell anyone what to do...and YES, EVERYONE hates slow play.

Except the newbies who want you to accept their foolin' around...and will say...Hey relax. It's just a game.

Fools. Just a game. My foot.

I feel your pain.

[drcar]

Ambassadors in TV aren't what Ambassadors are outside the bubble which is what you are basing your "do their job" comment. Hate to break it to you but they are doing their jobs. sand, water (at some point), wave, time your play but take no action since they have no authority and if they try, they could lose their jobs.

You are incorrect,, they do have authority, plus they also let managers know whats going on. NO ambassador has been fired for doing their job!

[drcar]

Is it too much to ask the ambassadors to do their job. Twice in the past 10 days we had 3 groups on the tee, one in the fairway and one on the green. On both of these days, we were pounded by a rainstorm on the 17th hole and were unable to finish. We should have been finished before the rain started if we moved at a normal pace instead of 20 minutes on every hole for the last 5 holes. Ambassadors don't do anything except deliver sand if needed and wave to you and thank you for coming out. They don't realize the aggravation of waiting 5 minutes to hit every shot or waiting 20 minutes on a tee box to start a hole. The group causing the slow down has an enjoyable day while every other group on the course has a miserable day. I think it's better to anger one group than to have every other group behind them angry about the slow play.
Ambassadors, please do your job!

You didn't tell the whole story, was your group a foursome?, Was the group ahead of you playing on pace? Did you talk to the ambassador? Did you report the problem to management? The biggest problem on the courses these days, with 4 carts groups are playing super fast and they want all groups to play at that speed. If the group ahead of you is on pace there is nothing that can be done.

[JoMar]

You are incorrect,, they do have authority, plus they also let managers know whats going on. NO ambassador has been fired for doing their job!

Several have been left go because they did what was not their job, pressuring players.....we have two in our neighborhood and they know the rule is to suggest and if they don't comply they can only report it to the pro shop. Nothing is ever done unless the players become obnoxious and threatening. Sorry, but there are ex ambassadors out there who thought there job was to marshall, it isn't

[anothersteve]

Not that much of a stretch. A four hour round works out to be 13.33 minutes per hole. Many courses enforce a 14 minute per hole limit. If you have two players in a group that are very slow, it would be easy for them to tack on and additional six minutes.

20 minutes a hole is a 6hr round...or 3 hrs for 9...
sorry if I'm not OK with that

Steve

[mrf6969]

Is it too much to ask the ambassadors to do their job. Twice in the past 10 days we had 3 groups on the tee, one in the fairway and one on the green. On both of these days, we were pounded by a rainstorm on the 17th hole and were unable to finish. We should have been finished before the rain started if we moved at a normal pace instead of 20 minutes on every hole for the last 5 holes. Ambassadors don't do anything except deliver sand if needed and wave to you and thank you for coming out. They don't realize the aggravation of waiting 5 minutes to hit every shot or waiting 20 minutes on a tee box to start a hole. The group causing the slow down has an enjoyable day while every other group on the course has a miserable day. I think it's better to anger one group than to have every other group behind them angry about the slow play.
Ambassadors, please do your job!
With each of us driving our own carts now, my group has found we finish in 2 hours or less and have been able to do this for months now.
This slow play you are speaking of must be VERY out of the ordinary.