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brianherlihy
07-11-2020, 08:41 AM
hi i have a court villa. and i would like to put a shed in my back yard

under55
07-11-2020, 10:23 AM
Sure go ahead.

CWGUY
07-11-2020, 10:29 AM
hi i have a court villa. and i would like to put a shed in my back yard

:confused: Did you read your "Deed Restrictions" ? :popcorn:

Bogie Shooter
07-11-2020, 10:31 AM
Why not call Community Standards?

CWGUY
07-11-2020, 10:31 AM
Sure go ahead.

:1rotfl: Did you read their "Deed Restrictions" ? :coolsmiley:

CWGUY
07-11-2020, 10:33 AM
Why not call Community Standards?

:icon_wink: Why not read the "Deed Restrictions" ? :oops:

Marathon Man
07-11-2020, 10:34 AM
:confused: Did you read your "Deed Restrictions" ? :popcorn:

Why not call Community Standards?

These two responses are what you need to have your answer.

Bogie Shooter
07-11-2020, 10:51 AM
We are always here to help!

Chi-Town
07-11-2020, 11:31 AM
I think she sheds are OK

Two Bills
07-11-2020, 12:09 PM
I think she sheds are OK

But!

MSM. ( Male Sheds Matter!) :icon_wink:

villagetinker
07-11-2020, 01:31 PM
I was under the impression, NO sheds, but I have never checked your type of house, and I do not know which area you live, so CALL community standards 352-751-3912 and get the correct answer.

John41
07-11-2020, 03:06 PM
At least in our CYV you can’t put a shed or any structure in the yard without ARC approval. And sheds are prohibited in the deed restrictions. But if the shed is less than fence height you might get away with it.

Toymeister
07-11-2020, 03:09 PM
Here is a helpful answer.

If your shed is not visible over the fence it will be fine.

Unless someone flies over you CYV no one will see it. The deed restrictions effectively will not matter as there is no one to make a complaint. In practice this means one of those small lean to type of sheds, like this:[url=https://www.homedepot.com/p/Duramax-Building-Products-Sidemate-4-ft-x-8-ft-Vinyl-Shed-with-Foundation-06625/203532803?g_store=278&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D28I-G-D28I-28_21_STORAGE_BUILDINGS-MULTI-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-BASE_SHP&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D28I-G-D28I-28_21_STORAGE_BUILDINGS-MULTI-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-BASE_SHP-71700000041090933-58700005114198297-92700044818652266&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjwxqX4BRBhEiwAYtJX7T7l0QTa6B_5fukebMHM NyLnGYFe8bpMeuv_DEyVtUbr9hkl-eE2ZRoCJHgQAvD_BwE]. Or Google lean to sheds. Home depot has them

This is very common, I see it frequently when touring open houses.

Topspinmo
07-11-2020, 03:12 PM
At least in our CYV you can’t put a shed or any structure in the yard without ARC approval. And sheds are prohibited in the deed restrictions. But if the shed is less than fence height you might get away with it.

Agreed might get way with if if it can’t be seen. Course always the change you neighbor might peak over the fence and report it. I see some small tool sheds in some, verily visible unless you’re taller than the average height:)

Toymeister
07-11-2020, 03:13 PM
Duplicate post

New Englander
07-11-2020, 03:19 PM
I think she sheds are OK

Not of you're a guy! :1rotfl:

peachpit
07-11-2020, 04:32 PM
The snake would appreciate a shed. Please be careful when you open the doors.

villagetinker
07-11-2020, 08:12 PM
Of course your neighbors will know about it when the first hurricane or tornado hits and effectively relocates to the neighbors house.

Toymeister
07-11-2020, 08:39 PM
Of course your neighbors will know about it when the first hurricane or tornado hits and effectively relocates to the neighbors house.

I actually have experience with these sheds, if it has an integrated floor and you have weight in it it will not move, now if the winds are so strong to move your CYV to which it is leaning against then all bets are off. At that point your neighbors won't be worried about the deed restrictions.

Again these small sheds are a great option OP, I would disregard the negative posts. If someone backs up to a busy road with a designer it is not practical but that is not the question.

Villagerjjm
07-11-2020, 11:17 PM
You can as long as you get approval and follow the rules on how it has to be set up.

McGyver9
07-12-2020, 05:11 AM
You can as long as you get approval and follow the rules on how it has to be set up.

Or, don't, and complain about having to take it down... in the hot sun...even though it's been there for 15 years... ;)

airdale2
07-12-2020, 05:33 AM
DEED RESTRICTIONS???? We have those??? Are the trolls using drones??

vagent711
07-12-2020, 05:41 AM
hi i have a court villa. and i would like to put a shed in my back yard

Any improvement to the property exterior must be approved by the ARC. Free standing sheds are not permitted but if a shed is attached to the villa with like materials and is aesthetically pleasing there is a good chance for approval

bowlingal
07-12-2020, 06:21 AM
must be below the fence line.

RealJudy
07-12-2020, 06:35 AM
As long as it doesn’t exceed the height of the fence.

greenflash245
07-12-2020, 06:52 AM
why not?

am.zinger@aol.com
07-12-2020, 06:55 AM
When we moved here, I was told the shed had to be ATTACHED to the structure. I also live in a Villa. Moved here 2006. But, it is worth presenting to the ARC committee first. Things may have changed since then. I believe the theory is that if it isn't attached, then a hurricane or tornado can make it a flying object, and believe me... things do fly in a tornado, from first hand account. We had a BBQ grill and a motorcycle that were parked inside our gate. They got thrown up against our back wall. Also found someone's truss in our backyard. So, better to be safe than sorry.

Marathon Man
07-12-2020, 07:30 AM
must be below the fence line.

As long as it doesn’t exceed the height of the fence.


Could you please copy and paste the part of the restrictions that states this.

blueash
07-12-2020, 07:50 AM
I don't know the rule but it does seem from several posts there is a no shed rule, period. Then others post advise on how to prevent detection of your violation by keeping the height below the fence. My question is I'd like to know if that is their general rule in life... Break the rules including any contracts you have signed and figure out a way to avoid being caught?

I do know it is a more common life style than I'd believed in the past. Even some very wealthy people regularly renege on their contracts. Figuring a way out of the contract is part of the art of the deal.

J1ceasar
07-12-2020, 08:39 AM
maybe bench type storage unit is allowed if she'ds aren't

marysackiss
07-12-2020, 08:49 AM
hi i have a court villa. and i would like to put a shed in my back yard

We tried & Villages said no so we put a shed in our lani & it is great. Call the Villages Deed Compliance, good luck.

Barborv
07-12-2020, 09:19 AM
I know some sheds require a foundation. If youre thinking about a small Rubbermaid one, I can't see the problem, but would check before spending the money, especially if you have to put a foundation.

Remudaman
07-12-2020, 09:20 AM
My suggestion is to get the true answer by calling the Villages offices and not rely on what others say. This is a technical issue you’re dealing with.

JCMSr
07-12-2020, 11:28 AM
hi i have a court villa. and i would like to put a shed in my back yard

The answer to your question depends on which district/village your courtyard villa is located. Each and every district has its own distinct set of deed restrictions so unless you provide your location everyone responding to you is guessing. I will state that in the majority of the districts free-standing sheds are prohibited. I happen to live in District 10 and the deed restrictions here are very clear:
Article V Section 8 states...."No outbuilding, tent, shack, garage, trailer, shed, utility building or temporary building of any kind shall be erected, except temporarily only for construction purposes." I think the answer in this case would be absolutely NOT!

The responses to your question by some others on this forum are all over the board from an absolute Yes to "deed restriction effectively will not matter unless someone complains". I certainly would not spend the time and effort to buy and install a shed only to be told that it must be removed. Do the smart thing and read your deed restrictions or call Community Standards if you do not have a copy. They will guide you through the process. Even if sheds are allowed on your particular property you must still submit an application to the Architectural Review Committee for approval. Be aware that your property has certain easements along the front, side and rear lot lines where you are not allowed to place any type of structure. Many of these areas are drainage and utility easements and installing a shed could possibly cause problems down the road for you are your neighbor. Abide by the deed restrictions and stay safe.

villagetinker
07-12-2020, 12:10 PM
JCMSr, well said.

Toymeister
07-12-2020, 04:36 PM
Common sense is a super power in 2020.

Yes effectively in this case where you can't see a shed deed restrictions do not matter

Is the SWAT team going to execute a search warrant because a drone picked up your below the fence shed, no.

So can you put up a below the fence shed at a CYV almost certainly without being 'caught', will it blow away, almost certainly no.

Let's discuss something that is less of a hot button but quite similar, garbage cans outside your house. Against the deed restrictions in most areas. I know of two in Pinellas. One has his cans next to his home where they are visible from the street. Another is my buddies, he has a landscape wall for a grill. He uses it for his garbage can. Because of the orientation of his home you can't see it. Is anyone going to lodge a complaint for it no.

Ss6247
07-14-2020, 02:07 AM
In our district, we can have a shed, BUT it HAS to be attached to the house.

JCMSr
07-15-2020, 01:21 PM
Common sense is a super power in 2020.

Yes effectively in this case where you can't see a shed deed restrictions do not matter

This attitude towards deed restrictions is what gets many people in trouble. Deed restrictions are not just about paint colors, types of grass or yard ornaments. Quite often the restrictions are put in place to control access to easements or drainage issues. Many properties have limited space between homes with shared drainage swales. Even minor changes which change to flow of water can affect you and your neighbor.

Many people seem to have the attitude that "it's my property and I can do whatever I want with it". These are also the first ones to complain when they are notified of a violation and even then all they can complain about is the unfairness of the anonymous complaint system. The deed restrictions are designed to protect property values for everyone. Everyone has taste....some good, some bad. Learn to live with the rules you agreed to when you signed your deed. The attitude that if you cannot see something it is certainly OK to do it is absurd! Hopefully most Villagers will realize this and read the deed restrictions before making such off the wall assertions please.

Jayhawk
07-15-2020, 02:16 PM
Many people seem to have the attitude that "it's my property and I can do whatever I want with it". These are also the first ones to complain when they are notified of a violation and even then all they can complain about is the unfairness of the anonymous complaint system. The deed restrictions are designed to protect property values for everyone. Everyone has taste....some good, some bad. Learn to live with the rules you agreed to when you signed your deed. The attitude that if you cannot see something it is certainly OK to do it is absurd! Hopefully most Villagers will realize this and read the deed restrictions before making such off the wall assertions please.

Most responsible comment so far. Thank you.

Topspinmo
07-16-2020, 10:01 AM
This attitude towards deed restrictions is what gets many people in trouble. Deed restrictions are not just about paint colors, types of grass or yard ornaments. Quite often the restrictions are put in place to control access to easements or drainage issues. Many properties have limited space between homes with shared drainage swales. Even minor changes which change to flow of water can affect you and your neighbor.

Many people seem to have the attitude that "it's my property and I can do whatever I want with it". These are also the first ones to complain when they are notified of a violation and even then all they can complain about is the unfairness of the anonymous complaint system. The deed restrictions are designed to protect property values for everyone. Everyone has taste....some good, some bad. Learn to live with the rules you agreed to when you signed your deed. The attitude that if you cannot see something it is certainly OK to do it is absurd! Hopefully most Villagers will realize this and read the deed restrictions before making such off the wall assertions please.


CYVs have concrete walls separation in back and drain in backyards with easements off the wall. Very few properties after years are in Total compliance Due to several owners have induced something. IMO before any house is sold in deed restricted community a compliance inspect should be done so the new owners not stuck with out of compliance discrepancies previous owners have done.

JCMSr
07-16-2020, 01:19 PM
CYVs have concrete walls separation in back and drain in backyards with easements off the wall. Very few properties after years are in Total compliance Due to several owners have induced something. IMO before any house is sold in deed restricted community a compliance inspect should be done so the new owners not stuck with out of compliance discrepancies previous owners have done.

I agree with your comments however who do you think should be responsible for the cost of this additional inspection (obviously it would not be free)? Buyers could make this a condition of the purchase agreement but if the Seller chooses not to accept such conditions the agreement would be void. Most agents actually are working for the Seller and are not obligated to promote such conditions on behalf of the Buyers. Buyers frequently purchase real estate without obtaining surveys and without conducting a professional property inspections. How many do you think would be willing to add an additional expense to their closing costs? Plus, who would be responsible for bringing the property into compliance if violations are reported?

I have seen many applications submitted to the ARC wherein the property owner states that the conditions were "existing when we bought the property". Unfortunately if it is a rules violation it does not matter when the work was done, who authorized it or how long it has been there.

Topspinmo
07-17-2020, 03:54 PM
I agree with your comments however who do you think should be responsible for the cost of this additional inspection (obviously it would not be free)? Buyers could make this a condition of the purchase agreement but if the Seller chooses not to accept such conditions the agreement would be void. Most agents actually are working for the Seller and are not obligated to promote such conditions on behalf of the Buyers. Buyers frequently purchase real estate without obtaining surveys and without conducting a professional property inspections. How many do you think would be willing to add an additional expense to their closing costs? Plus, who would be responsible for bringing the property into compliance if violations are reported?

I have seen many applications submitted to the ARC wherein the property owner states that the conditions were "existing when we bought the property". Unfortunately if it is a rules violation it does not matter when the work was done, who authorized it or how long it has been there.

Same people that approve or disapprove rule violations. They want rules Enforced then they need to insure when properties change hand no violation exist, not 2 months or 15 years after someone brought property and some one complains. All changes should be documented with application approval’s.

Kerry Azz
08-14-2020, 10:54 AM
If it can’t be seen from your gate there is nothing community standards can do about, they can’t enforce what they can’t see.

Stu from NYC
08-14-2020, 01:41 PM
If it can’t be seen from your gate there is nothing community standards can do about, they can’t enforce what they can’t see.

Until you get into an argument with a neighbor who turns you in.

Toymeister
08-14-2020, 01:53 PM
If it can’t be seen from your gate there is nothing community standards can do about, they can’t enforce what they can’t see.

Watch out with that superpower, common sense; someone is surely going to post about your 'bad additude'!!

Mleeja
08-14-2020, 08:47 PM
There is CYV being offer for sale by a non-villages realtor. In the pictures of the unit, there is clearly an outdoor storage unit. It looks to be a plastic structure about 60 in x 24 in x 36 in.

tophcfa
08-14-2020, 09:27 PM
I suspect the answer to the OP’s question is probably not. But the OP should not be surprised if a very large rental apartment complex pops up in their back yard : (

Nevermore
08-14-2020, 11:20 PM
People who report this kind of thing have too much time on their hands.

Neils
08-14-2020, 11:40 PM
Sure. Bury it and call it a tornado shelter

oldtimes
08-15-2020, 07:25 AM
We received permission from ARC to put a small 6x4 storage shed up against out house in our CYV