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MandoMan
07-12-2020, 12:18 PM
“Gone With the Wind” has been removed from the airways because it has slaveowners who aren’t irredeemably despicable. Disney isn’t showing “Song of the South” because it combines old Br’er Rabbit stories with an idyllic view of plantation life and stereotypes (it also has the great song “Zip-a-Dee-Do-Dah”). Several statues of Columbus have been removed because he was an oppressor of American Indians and a colonizer responsible for genocide. (He definitely wasn’t a nice guy, but the fact remains, we are here because of him.) At least one statue of Andrew Jackson has been removed because he is thought by some to have been guilty of attempted genocide as he sent various American Indian tribes west along the “Trail of Tears”, despite his being a U.S. President and a distinguished military hero. At least one statue of Teddy Roosevelt has been removed because he was a colonizer who urged the U.S. to take over Cuba and other countries from the Spanish. Some are urging in print that we remove Thomas Jefferson from the Jefferson Memorial because he wrote “all men are created equal” but didn’t free his slaves and was an automatic rapist because he had children by one of them (even though she was his late wife’s step-sister and was three-fourths European in ancestry). President Woodrow Wilson, who was President of Princeton University before running for the U.S. Presidency, is being removed from Princeton’s memory because he was a racist (and he was!). Some are wondering if George Washington should be removed from his pedestal (and if perhaps Washington, D.C., should become, say, Frederick Douglass City). Many monuments to Confederate generals and political figures have been torn down. Some are talking of blasting the faces off Mount Rushmore. Expect all of these figures to be rewritten in grade school history classes in the near future. (Can you remember when we used to celebrate Washington’s Birthday and Lincoln’s Birthday separately, rather than lumping them into “Presidents Day”?)

I would like to suggest a number of monuments, museums, television series, movies, etc., that we ought to get rid of because they celebrate people who had slaves or were colonizers who took over other people’s countries, enslaved them, killed them, oppressed them. Please feel free to add to the list. My list is just a beginning off the top of my head.

1. The Pyramids of Egypt should be removed because the were built by slave labor or forced labor (including forced Israelite labor) to memorialize oppressive rulers. The museums glorifying mummies and the “architecture of oppression” should also be removed.

2. The television series “Vikings,” which glorifies vicious people who raped and pillaged England and France, colonizers and oppressors who made much of their wealth capturing and selling slaves from many European areas, should not be shown.

3. William the Conqueror and the Norman Conquest should not be mentioned, as William was actually a Norseman, descended from Vikings, who conquered a country to which he had no right other than the right of conquest and confiscated most of the land and forced most of the English into feudal servitude. Most of the British aristocracy are of Norman descent and still living on what they stole from the English.

4. “Yellowstone” should be removed because it glorifies a rancher who comes from a family that oppressed American Indians.

5. The “Star Wars” movies should be removed not because they glorify both rebellion and terrorism but because they show oppressive colonizers guilty of genocide.

6. “Game of Thrones” should not be shown because it glorifies colonization and attempted genocide and murder and rape and incest.

7. “Downtown Abbey” should not be shown because the Duke and his family are descendants of Norman invaders who still own land and oppress people.

8. The world’s great art galleries should have big bonfires to destroy many of their paintings, as so many glorify wealthy people who owned slaves or made money off the slave trade or the colonial enterprise, such as kings and aristocrats. At the least, most were owned and collected by fabulously rich people who got their money by oppressing others. For example, the great museum “El Prado,” in Madrid, has hundreds of paintings by Flemish painters gathered during the 17th Century days of the “Spanish Netherlands,” which was a period of unwanted colonization.

9. Most of the great buildings in the world were built on the toil of slave laborers or paid labor that paid very little and cared little for the safety of workers. This includes palaces, castles, churches. It includes the Forbidden City in Beijing and the U.S. Capitol and the Kremlin, and the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Tear them down and build low-income housing to be rented at affordable rates.

10. Any “Westerns” that have “Indians” who are actually Italian-Americans or members of other groups should not be shown. Likewise, Westerns should be banned if they don’t have at least thirty percent African-American cowboys or Mexican-American cowboys because that’s the way it really was! Similarly, any soldiers, especially cavalry, should be portrayed as vicious murderers and rapists. “F Troop” should of course be banned.

(THIS IS OF COURSE SATIRE MEANT TO PROVOKE YOUR THINKING! I AM NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS! I’M JOKING!)

As George Orwell wrote in “Animal Farm,” “Everyone is equal, but some people are more equal than others.”

Here’s the charming song “Zip-I-Dee-Do-Dah,” from 1946. Why is this banned when the complete phoniness of Disney’s “Pocahontas” is fine?
YouTube (https://youtu.be/6bWyhj7siEY)

alwann
07-12-2020, 12:39 PM
Oh, yes. And let's start burning and banning books again. Except for 1984. It's a training manual for contemporary times.

Stu from NYC
07-12-2020, 02:06 PM
“Gone With the Wind” has been removed from the airways because it has slaveowners who aren’t irredeemably despicable. Disney isn’t showing “Song of the South” because it combines old Br’er Rabbit stories with an idyllic view of plantation life and stereotypes (it also has the great song “Zip-a-Dee-Do-Dah”). Several statues of Columbus have been removed because he was an oppressor of American Indians and a colonizer responsible for genocide. (He definitely wasn’t a nice guy, but the fact remains, we are here because of him.) At least one statue of Andrew Jackson has been removed because he is thought by some to have been guilty of attempted genocide as he sent various American Indian tribes west along the “Trail of Tears”, despite his being a U.S. President and a distinguished military hero. At least one statue of Teddy Roosevelt has been removed because he was a colonizer who urged the U.S. to take over Cuba and other countries from the Spanish. Some are urging in print that we remove Thomas Jefferson from the Jefferson Memorial because he wrote “all men are created equal” but didn’t free his slaves and was an automatic rapist because he had children by one of them (even though she was his late wife’s step-sister and was three-fourths European in ancestry). President Woodrow Wilson, who was President of Princeton University before running for the U.S. Presidency, is being removed from Princeton’s memory because he was a racist (and he was!). Some are wondering if George Washington should be removed from his pedestal (and if perhaps Washington, D.C., should become, say, Frederick Douglass City). Many monuments to Confederate generals and political figures have been torn down. Some are talking of blasting the faces off Mount Rushmore. Expect all of these figures to be rewritten in grade school history classes in the near future. (Can you remember when we used to celebrate Washington’s Birthday and Lincoln’s Birthday separately, rather than lumping them into “Presidents Day”?)

I would like to suggest a number of monuments, museums, television series, movies, etc., that we ought to get rid of because they celebrate people who had slaves or were colonizers who took over other people’s countries, enslaved them, killed them, oppressed them. Please feel free to add to the list. My list is just a beginning off the top of my head.

1. The Pyramids of Egypt should be removed because the were built by slave labor or forced labor (including forced Israelite labor) to memorialize oppressive rulers. The museums glorifying mummies and the “architecture of oppression” should also be removed.

2. The television series “Vikings,” which glorifies vicious people who raped and pillaged England and France, colonizers and oppressors who made much of their wealth capturing and selling slaves from many European areas, should not be shown.

3. William the Conqueror and the Norman Conquest should not be mentioned, as William was actually a Norseman, descended from Vikings, who conquered a country to which he had no right other than the right of conquest and confiscated most of the land and forced most of the English into feudal servitude. Most of the British aristocracy are of Norman descent and still living on what they stole from the English.

4. “Yellowstone” should be removed because it glorifies a rancher who comes from a family that oppressed American Indians.

5. The “Star Wars” movies should be removed not because they glorify both rebellion and terrorism but because they show oppressive colonizers guilty of genocide.

6. “Game of Thrones” should not be shown because it glorifies colonization and attempted genocide and murder and rape and incest.

7. “Downtown Abbey” should not be shown because the Duke and his family are descendants of Norman invaders who still own land and oppress people.

8. The world’s great art galleries should have big bonfires to destroy many of their paintings, as so many glorify wealthy people who owned slaves or made money off the slave trade or the colonial enterprise, such as kings and aristocrats. At the least, most were owned and collected by fabulously rich people who got their money by oppressing others. For example, the great museum “El Prado,” in Madrid, has hundreds of paintings by Flemish painters gathered during the 17th Century days of the “Spanish Netherlands,” which was a period of unwanted colonization.

9. Most of the great buildings in the world were built on the toil of slave laborers or paid labor that paid very little and cared little for the safety of workers. This includes palaces, castles, churches. It includes the Forbidden City in Beijing and the U.S. Capitol and the Kremlin, and the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Tear them down and build low-income housing to be rented at affordable rates.

10. Any “Westerns” that have “Indians” who are actually Italian-Americans or members of other groups should not be shown. Likewise, Westerns should be banned if they don’t have at least thirty percent African-American cowboys or Mexican-American cowboys because that’s the way it really was! Similarly, any soldiers, especially cavalry, should be portrayed as vicious murderers and rapists. “F Troop” should of course be banned.

(THIS IS OF COURSE SATIRE MEANT TO PROVOKE YOUR THINKING! I AM NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS! I’M JOKING!)

As George Orwell wrote in “Animal Farm,” “Everyone is equal, but some people are more equal than others.”

Here’s the charming song “Zip-I-Dee-Do-Dah,” from 1946. Why is this banned when the complete phoniness of Disney’s “Pocahontas” is fine?
YouTube (https://youtu.be/6bWyhj7siEY)

Very good. In a more serious note how about we ban the removal of statues

mamamia54
07-12-2020, 03:44 PM
I’m sure white bread is next!

karostay
07-12-2020, 03:47 PM
Human race..Really we can stand each other..Just read the post

MandoMan
07-12-2020, 03:58 PM
Oh, yes. And let's start burning and banning books again. Except for 1984. It's a training manual for contemporary times.

We aren’t far from that. Remember Ray Bradbury’s “Fahrenheit 451”? It scares me. I wrote my doctoral dissertation at Oxford on the novelist Joyce Cary, who wrote several excellent novels based on his years in Nigeria, including “Mister Johnson,” which the director of “Driving Miss Daisy” turned into a fine movie. I was about the last critic to judge the books on their own merits. Once the post-colonial craze took over, Cary became persona non grata because he was a colonial officer writing about Nigerians instead of a Nigerian.

C4Boston
07-12-2020, 04:25 PM
Banning ANTIFA and BLM may be a good start.

Mrprez
07-12-2020, 05:14 PM
How about the little paper cups attached to the water cooler that look like tiny KKK hats?😂

billethkid
07-12-2020, 05:22 PM
Ban those politicians who will not uphold the laws of the land they swore to protect when they fooled us to vote for them.

Ban public officials that protect those who are breaking the laws of the land to make a statement.

Stu from NYC
07-12-2020, 05:43 PM
Ban those politicians who will not uphold the laws of the land they swore to protect when they fooled us to vote for them.

Ban public officials that protect those who are breaking the laws of the land to make a statement.

Works for me

Stu from NYC
07-12-2020, 05:44 PM
Banning ANTIFA and BLM may be a good start.

Ill second that motion.

Buffalo Jim
07-12-2020, 05:45 PM
" They " no doubt have " The Alamo " on their lengthy list of places to destroy .

All religious symbols and statues are most likely high on their list to destroy as a prelude to eventually banning all traditional religions .

billethkid
07-12-2020, 05:57 PM
" They " no doubt have " The Alamo " on their lengthy list of places to destroy .

All religious symbols and statues are most likely high on their list to destroy as a prelude to eventually banning all traditional religions .

If/when they go after the above and or the flag I am pretty sure some part of the silent majority will then rise up and be counted.

The possible disadvantage will we will most likely be arrested and prosecuted for breaking "some/any" law(s).

DeanFL
07-12-2020, 06:09 PM
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coffeebean
07-12-2020, 06:22 PM
I’m sure white bread is next!

But, but, but......it's white! What else can we call it? Caucasian? Nah. Just doesn't have that ring to it.

Stu from NYC
07-12-2020, 06:35 PM
But, but, but......it's white! What else can we call it? Caucasian? Nah. Just doesn't have that ring to it.

Used to call pumpernickel black bread. Is that racist?

Stu from NYC
07-12-2020, 06:36 PM
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This would be the call to arms for our son if they made them change anything. What happened to the picture of the white castle restaurant?

Marvic 1
07-12-2020, 06:38 PM
Collage Students, the higher the tuition the dumber they get....

Fredman
07-12-2020, 07:05 PM
I’m sure white bread is next!

Don’t forget about white rice

kcrazorbackfan
07-12-2020, 07:33 PM
Banning ANTIFA and BLM may be a good start.

Bravo 👏!

Great recommendation!!

GoodLife
07-12-2020, 08:10 PM
I think we will need to change the name of about half the US states since they are based on Native American words. But nah, they are probably proud of that fact. There was a poll where 9 out 10 native americans did not object to various sport team names.

But we have to change the name of New York and New York City. Why, because they seem to be the most "woke" in the entire nation and their New York Times spreads that gospel to all the land.

New York got it's name from the Duke of York, who founded the company that brought more slaves to the USA than anyone.

Stu from NYC
07-12-2020, 09:09 PM
I think we will need to change the name of about half the US states since they are based on Native American words. But nah, they are probably proud of that fact. There was a poll where 9 out 10 native americans did not object to various sport team names.

But we have to change the name of New York and New York City. Why, because they seem to be the most "woke" in the entire nation and their New York Times spreads that gospel to all the land.

New York got it's name from the Duke of York, who founded the company that brought more slaves to the USA than anyone.

Have spoken to a number of American Indians over the years and they have no desire to see the names of these teams changed.

GoodLife
07-12-2020, 09:24 PM
Have spoken to a number of American Indians over the years and they have no desire to see the names of these teams changed.

Good!

I'm sorry but you will have to change your forum name. It's derived from a slave trader.

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davem4616
07-13-2020, 06:02 AM
" They " no doubt have " The Alamo " on their lengthy list of places to destroy .

All religious symbols and statues are most likely high on their list to destroy as a prelude to eventually banning all traditional religions .



Actually the security forces that protect the Alamo are already on record stating that they will defend the symbol of Texas and that they have plenty of reinforcements on call should they need them....that the eyes of Texas will be upon them

the article (which I didn't keep) certainly sounded like they were serious...doubtful that these idiot rioters are stupid enough to pull any stunts with people that will actually put a stop to their BS