Florida Has More Covid Cases than Most Countries

[Travelhunter]

It seems there is no end in sight for the escalation of cases in our state.
Other states seem to be doing so much more

[Klatu]

What matters is seriousness of cases. Hospitalizations and death rates. Those numbers are much more positive.

[Travelhunter]

What matters is seriousness of cases. Hospitalizations and death rates. Those numbers are much more positive.
I am not an expert. My logic indicates an escalation of case numbers, will result in increased hospitalizations with increased deaths to follow
I hope I’m wrong

[canyonblue]

I am not an expert. My logic indicates an escalation of case numbers, will result in increased hospitalizations with increased deaths to follow
I hope I’m wrong

Well the 15-34 age group account for 102,000 of the cases with a death rate of 0.0004. So it might not go up as much as the MSM would like.

[GoodLife]

I am not an expert. My logic indicates an escalation of case numbers, will result in increased hospitalizations with increased deaths to follow
I hope I’m wrong

See this thread

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/actual-florida-hospitalization-numbers-309000/

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

It seems there is no end in sight for the escalation of cases in our state.
Other states seem to be doing so much more

And 80% of them are in three counties. When the bars were re-opened young people went to them in droves and ignored social distancing protocols. Many bar owners seeking to make up for lost revenue ignored occupancy rates. That is why most of the new cases are in the 18-40 year old demographic and in Miami Dade, Palm Beach and Broward counties. The party capital of Florida.

In addition to that, there are a lot of numbers that we are not seeing and rumors about how some of the numbers are determined.

It's been said that if a person is tested three times and is positive all three times that that is counted as three positive cases.

Also consider that Florida with a population of 21.4 million is larger than many countries.

[Travelhunter]

See this thread

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/actual-florida-hospitalization-numbers-309000/
Thank you
I read the referenced thread
It seems to address available hospital beds
It’s good to know we have capacity. My concern is not the number of beds but rather the dramatic increase in the number of cases

[Travelhunter]

And 80% of them are in three counties. When the bars were re-opened young people went to them in droves and ignored social distancing protocols. Many bar owners seeking to make up for lost revenue ignored occupancy rates. That is why most of the new cases are in the 18-40 year old demographic and in Miami Dade, Palm Beach and Broward counties. The party capital of Florida.

In addition to that, there are a lot of numbers that we are not seeing and rumors about how some of the numbers are determined.

It's been said that if a person is tested three times and is positive all three times that that is counted as three positive cases.

Also consider that Florida with a population of 21.4 million is larger than many countries.

Coronavirus: How did Florida get so badly hit by Covid-19? - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53357742)
Here is another viewpoint

[Travelhunter]

Also consider that Florida with a population of 21.4 million is larger than many countries.[/QUOTE]
That’s a good point however when you consider the recent infection rate per percent of the population we move up in rank not down

[coffeebean]

Thank you
I read the referenced thread
It seems to address available hospital beds
It’s good to know we have capacity. My concern is not the number of beds but rather the dramatic increase in the number of cases

If what has been said is true that if a person is tested three times, for example, and all three tests come back positive, those three positive tests count as three "positive cases". That is totally ludicrous! I will not waste one more brain cell (don't have too many to spare) with concern for the amount of " positive cases" we have here in Florida. That number is not accurately telling how many PEOPLE have been infected.

[billethkid]

If what has been said is true that if a person is tested three times, for example, and all three tests come back positive, those three positive tests count as three "positive cases". That is totally ludicrous! I will not waste one more brain cell (don't have too many to spare) with concern for the amount of " positive cases" we have here in Florida. That number is not accurately telling how many PEOPLE have been infected.

I would bet they are counted as a new case each time...no cross referencing or follow up....status per swab.

[Travelhunter]

If what has been said is true that if a person is tested three times, for example, and all three tests come back positive, those three positive tests count as three "positive cases". That is totally ludicrous! I will not waste one more brain cell (don't have too many to spare) with concern for the amount of " positive cases" we have here in Florida. That number is not accurately telling how many PEOPLE have been infected.
No it’s not accurate for the reasons that you state as well as the people that are asymptomatic The studies have shown the infection rates are higher than those published for this reason

[Travelhunter]

I see California had to close down
I hope the same doesn’t happen to us

[rjm1cc]

Do all countries have the same number of citizens?

[Tom2172]

Problem is are they real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered some sites were reporting all people tested were positive for Covid when they were not positive
It’s an election year nothing is real
Verify verify verify more important than trust

[egmcaninch]

It seems there is no end in sight for the escalation of cases in our state.
Other states seem to be doing so much more
Two issues:
1) Quality of the testing: If places doing the testing are reporting 100% positives, something is wrong. Not feasible!
2) Quantity of testing: We test more - we get more negatives & positives. Simple math.

It is still a concern for all of us, but I'm personally skeptical with some of the data.

[DrBrutyle109]

I am not an expert. My logic indicates an escalation of case numbers, will result in increased hospitalizations with increased deaths to follow
I hope I’m wrong
Just stay in your house and do t go out. You do to want to be a number!

[Leadbone1]

It seems there is no end in sight for the escalation of cases in our state.
Other states seem to be doing so much more

Florida may be doing more testing than any other state in the US. You do more testing you’re going to find more cases. That doesn’t mean they’re severe cases. United States has done over 50 million tests. No other country has done that. People need to lose the paranoia! 99% survival rate.

[Bay Kid]

Just curious how many recoveries?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

On a list of 235 countries in order by population, Florida would be placed 58th.

Florida has a larger population than most countries.

[Travelhunter]

Florida may be doing more testing than any other state in the US. You do more testing you’re going to find more cases. That doesn’t mean they’re severe cases. United States has done over 50 million tests. No other country has done that. People need to lose the paranoia! 99% survival rate.
I thought as much also although the death rate is climbing Yesterday was 132

[Travelhunter]

What is the purpose of your posting? I understand you are scared but why try to hype and scare others who may not have read all of the current data on this virus? Please provide positive ideas regarding this virus and leave the doom to the MSM.
It would be helpful if you provided any positive ideas that you have regarding this virus

[coffeebean]

What is the purpose of your posting? I understand you are scared but why try to hype and scare others who may not have read all of the current data on this virus? Please provide positive ideas regarding this virus and leave the doom to the MSM.

What is the purpose of posting that California had to close down???? My take is that the purpose is to convey to those who refuse to wear masks that Florida is heading toward another lock down if people do not do their part to slow the spread of the virus. It happened to California and it can happen here too.

I have been saying all along that if we do not do our part to slow the virus, our economy is not going to recover. "Our part" meaning wear a mask in public when social distancing is not guaranteed. I have never been a proponent of mask wearing OUTDOORS when it is easy to distance yourself. Wearing a mask INDOORS is imperative, IMHO, when you are unable to distance yourself from others.

[rmd2]

A family member in Arizona said testing there is not nearly as much as the testing here in Florida. In Arizona they don't have much testing and when they do test there are long lines of people waiting for hours in 110 degree temperature. So many of them are not tested.

[Marcyd]

It seems there is no end in sight for the escalation of cases in our state.
Other states seem to be doing so much more

Just saw this:
ERRORS FOUND: Florida's positivity rate is skewed. #FOX35 went through #COVID19 test reports & found many clinics reporting 100% positivity. @orlandohealth admits their number is wrong, saying it shows 98% positive, but it's actually 9.4%.

[theruizs]

What is the purpose of your posting? I understand you are scared but why try to hype and scare others who may not have read all of the current data on this virus? Please provide positive ideas regarding this virus and leave the doom to the MSM.

So spin the news and the data to make it seem better than it is, like many on this thread like to do. Anyone can pick and choose their data and news reports to support a notion. What this is all about is that many here do not want to wear a mask and are looking for any excuse to down play the situation so they can justify it in their own mind because they know that freedom does NOT include a right to put others in harm’s way. I think I will continue to believe the real experts, first responders, etc. instead of the self-appointed mefirster experts on this site.

[ron32162]

Looking at the news reporting is being reported wrong, lots of discrepancies. Many of the testing facilities are only reporting positive cases of covid not the amount of test done 1000 test done and 5 positive = 0.5% The facilities in alot of areas have been sending it in like this 5 test done 5 positive = 100%

[kanoa1kale2]

Do all countries have the same number of citizens?

In population, Florida would rank 57th in the world.

[Jacob85]

Also, people forget that even if you survive this virus the possible lasting effects are lung damage, heart issues, blot clots and even brain damage.

[cathiehines]

Florida also has more population than a lot of countries and most states.

[Byte1]

I thought as much also although the death rate is climbing Yesterday was 132

I am not very concerned. I look at the amount of deaths attributed to COVID19 in the Sumter Co. area of the Villages. The last I checked, it was no higher than 8 or 9 deaths total. Only one in the last couple of weeks. There are a lot of seniors living in the Sumter Co. portion of the Villages, so the chances are pretty low that I will catch it and if I do, perish from it. Selfish? Most of us are more concerned about our own family before others.
We have more infected because we are finding out by testing hundreds more than before. Look at the line of those waiting at Laurel Manor or at one of the other places. I had to go inside of CVS to get my wife's meds because of the long drive up line waiting to be tested. Most of those tested have NO symptoms and never will.
Tell me that the death rate explodes and I will be concerned. Tell me that the hospital beds in The Villages are full of infected, then I will be concerned. Otherwise, it's all just Mass Hysteria as far as I am concerned.

Wear your mask, gloves, eye protection and wash your hands and you will feel much better about it.

[rjm1cc]

Problem is are they real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered some sites were reporting all people tested were positive for Covid when they were not positive
It’s an election year nothing is real
Verify verify verify more important than trust
My house cleaner went for a test with several others but after registering they could not wait until they got the test and went home. But no problem they all received notices that they tested positive.

[Sailohio]

I think our ultimate goal, as a civilization, is to develop herd immunity. In order to do that, we need for citizens to acquire Covid-19 slowly enough to not overwhelm our hospitals. As with any pandemic, people will die. It is a fact. Regardless of what the media tells you we are successfully accomplishing that goal. It is the only way because Covid-19 will be here next year, the year after that, and so on. It very well may be years before an effective inoculation in available. We need to face reality. We need to reopen businesses before we totally ruin our economy. And people will die as they do in every pandemic.

[cathiehines]

FLORIDA:
Population: 21.48 million
Covid cases: 292,000
Covid deaths 4408

NY
Population: 8.39 thousand
Covid cases: 408.000
Covid deaths: 32,092

UK
Population: 66.65 million
Covid cases: 292,000
Covid deaths: 45,053

Now, tell me how badly Florida is doing. I would think number of deaths count.

[PamfromNY]

The government has always wanted to cutback on Social Security. Well it seems to me they are doing just that. Seniors are dying and some children being forced to go back to school collect social security disability. I would love to know the stats on this. Florida has many Americans who fall into these categories.

[NewRealms]

Two things occurred today to indicate that case numbers are inflated. First, the CDC said that northerners are coming south to vacation and are increasing the number of cases. Secondly, over 300 testing centers in Florida have had a 100% positivity rate... an impossibility. That means that EVERYONE they tested was infected. Excuse my French, BULL. More people die in car accidents than form the "bug," but that didn't shut down a thriving economy. For French coming &$#*@!

[xNYer]

I think our ultimate goal, as a civilization, is to develop herd immunity. In order to do that, we need for citizens to acquire Covid-19 slowly enough to not overwhelm our hospitals. As with any pandemic, people will die. It is a fact. Regardless of what the media tells you we are successfully accomplishing that goal. It is the only way because Covid-19 will be here next year, the year after that, and so on. It very well may be years before an effective inoculation in available. We need to face reality. We need to reopen businesses before we totally ruin our economy. And people will die as they do in every pandemic.

How do you know that herd immunity is even possible. Do you know that if you get COVID-19 you are permanently protected, that the antibodies are so long lasting. Will the virus mutate? Why do we need annual flu vaccines and have not developed herd immunity? So much is not known and we need to trust medical experts to develop strategies, treatments and vaccinations.

[GoodLife]

FLORIDA:
Population: 21.48 million
Covid cases: 292,000
Covid deaths 4408

NY
Population: 8.39 thousand
Covid cases: 408.000
Covid deaths: 32,092

UK
Population: 66.65 million
Covid cases: 292,000
Covid deaths: 45,053

Now, tell me how badly Florida is doing. I would think number of deaths count.

This chart says it all:

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[xNYer]

On a list of 235 countries in order by population, Florida would be placed 58th.

Florida has a larger population than most countries.

Florida would be 58th in population, but 9th in number of cases excluding the U.S.

[Bucco]

Florida would be 58th in population, but 9th in number of cases excluding the U.S.

Now that all information will not go to CDC, but rather to "others", we will see a rapid reduction in cases.

[Mrodmh]

False. Numbers are completely inaccurate.

[davem4616]

when I was diagnosed with a very aggressive and unpredictable form of cancer back in 1990 and given an 11% chance...I focused in on all the numbers, the averages, the statistics, trying to out-guess what the doctors were telling me and beat the odds... was driving me crazy. Then one day I realized that the only statistic, the only numbers that really meant ANYTHING to me were my own...that made all the difference. I took control back.

you wanna beat the odds...play it safe...we all know exactly what to do...stop letting the media and all these conflicting reports get to you....you don't know how much of it is accurate anyway...so take control back

how's that song go, don't worry, be happy....(but play it safe)

[Bay Kid]

False. Numbers are completely inaccurate.

Then there was the guy in Fl that died from a motorcycle accident listed as a covid-19 death.

[Aloha1]

It would be helpful if you provided any positive ideas that you have regarding this virus

My positive idea is you have the power of choice. You can stay home, isolated, as long as you care. I have no problem with that. You can also choose to not stay home but reconnect with the world at your own risk. I have no problem with that as long as you have the courtesy to wear a mask when inside a store or in areas where you cannot maintain a six foot distance from others.
You also have the power to decide "the bug ain't gonna get me", and live life with wild abandon. I WILL have a problem with that if come near me but I will thank you for volunteering to help us reach herd immunity faster.

[Aloha1]

What is the purpose of posting that California had to close down???? My take is that the purpose is to convey to those who refuse to wear masks that Florida is heading toward another lock down if people do not do their part to slow the spread of the virus. It happened to California and it can happen here too.

I have been saying all along that if we do not do our part to slow the virus, our economy is not going to recover. "Our part" meaning wear a mask in public when social distancing is not guaranteed. I have never been a proponent of mask wearing OUTDOORS when it is easy to distance yourself. Wearing a mask INDOORS is imperative, IMHO, when you are unable to distance yourself from others.
I agree with your last paragraph. I do not agree that Cali should have shut down. You will never get everyone there to follow "rules".

[Aloha1]

So spin the news and the data to make it seem better than it is, like many on this thread like to do. Anyone can pick and choose their data and news reports to support a notion. What this is all about is that many here do not want to wear a mask and are looking for any excuse to down play the situation so they can justify it in their own mind because they know that freedom does NOT include a right to put others in harm’s way. I think I will continue to believe the real experts, first responders, etc. instead of the self-appointed mefirster experts on this site.

Spin what data? I posted none but asked a simple question, "why post doom and gloom?" I also made no comment pro or con about masks. There are many experts out there and one constant is that there is no constant on where we are today.