Interesting COVID information from The Villages Health

[Northwoods]

I am a patient of The Villages Health. Their Chief Medical Officer just sent a message to all patients updating them about COVID-19. The letter is longer than the segment below, but I wanted to share some interesting statistics about local hospitalizations. I have not seen specific local hospitalization numbers anywhere.

Cases of COVID-19 are increasing in Florida and locally. Today, there are 549 cases in Sumter County, with 162 occurring in the last week. In Lake County, there are 2,158 cases with 674 occurring in the last week. In Marion County, there are 1,156 cases with 379 occurring in the last week. As of this morning, there are 15 patients in the UF The Villages Hospital and 36 in UF Leesburg Hospital.16 of these patients are in intensive care.

The upward trend is accelerating and the number of known cases among 15- to 35-year-olds is surpassing those of adults aged 55 and older. While younger individuals are typically more able to tolerate and survive the infection, older individuals are at higher risk for more serious outcomes related to this infection.

[JimJohnson]

We need someone to take charge of this situation. People are confused on what to do. Such a pity.

[VApeople]

People are confused on what to do.

Maybe you are confused, but we are not.

We know exactly what to do to avoid getting the Chinese Virus and we are doing it while we thoroughly enjoy every day.

This is a great time to be alive.

[vintageogauge]

The letter is lacking some detail if you are showing an exact quote. How many of the patients in the 2 hospitals have the virus, how many of the ICU patients have the virus? Your quote does not state that they all have Covid. Also there was a huge jump in positives at the Coleman Federal Prison in Sumter County and there is also a very large number in the Bushnell prison. Deduct those two from the total in Sumter county and we are looking very good.

[billethkid]

We have been hearing what to do since early March. Those very simple steps known, each of us chooses to follow or not.

What is lacking is no one source of simple to understand measurements.

Number of NEW infections (excluding repeat testers).
Number of hospitalizations by category (standard, IC, ventilator)
Number of deaths due specifically to the virus.

Just like when we were advised to "flatten the curve" during March/April.........what is the current objective/forecast/hope?

[Stu from NYC]

We need someone to take charge of this situation. People are confused on what to do. Such a pity.

We know what to do, stay home as much as possible when we go out and will be around others wear a mask.

[Jazzman]

I think much of your assessment is correct and specifically your comment regarding the political divide and it’s impact. An example is the number of appearances by Dr. Fauci in front of multiple Congressional committees. Why isn’t Dr. Birx invited to testify? In my opinion she deals with data and facts and can explain where hot spots are developing, where there’s a need to increase testing, etc. Yes a little boring but that’s what facts are versus talking about anything and everything except any plan to specifically address the issue. Yes there are a lot of cases in Florida. Fifteen thousand in one day this past Sunday, yet the number of deaths that are attributed to the virus on Sunday in Florida, around 45 per the Johns Hopkins site. We don’t hear about the number of deaths anymore. And the virus is making a comeback in other parts of the world where strict measures were in place way before the US implemented measures..

[VApeople]

What is lacking is no one source of simple to understand measurements.

Number of NEW infections (excluding repeat testers).
Number of hospitalizations by category (standard, IC, ventilator)
Number of deaths due specifically to the virus.


I don't even care about these measurements. I don't care about the number of new infections. I assume everyone carries the virus and we just do our best to not catch it.

what is the current objective/forecast/hope?

Can't you answer these questions for yourself?

[Velvet]

I don't even care about these measurements. I don't care about the number of new infections. I assume everyone carries the virus and we just do our best to not catch it.



I do too, also all surfaces outside of my home. Risk vs reward. If I am being overly cautious, so what? Takes only a very small part of my day. And I have fun with my hobbies at the same time.

[Bogie Shooter]

The letter is lacking some detail if you are showing an exact quote. How many of the patients in the 2 hospitals have the virus, how many of the ICU patients have the virus? Your quote does not state that they all have Covid. Also there was a huge jump in positives at the Coleman Federal Prison in Sumter County and there is also a very large number in the Bushnell prison. Deduct those two from the total in Sumter county and we are looking very good.



An Important Message from Our Chief Medical Officer, Jeffrey Lowenkron, MD

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Advisory

Cases of COVID-19 are increasing in Florida and locally. Today, there are 549 cases in Sumter County, with 162 occurring in the last week. In Lake County, there are 2,158 cases with 674 occurring in the last week.In Marion County, there are 1,156 cases with 379 occurring in the last week. As of this morning, there are 15 patients in the UF The Villages Hospital and 36 in UF Leesburg Hospital.16 of these patients are in intensive care.

The upward trend is accelerating and the number of known cases among 15- to 35-year-olds is surpassing those of adults aged 55 and older. While younger individuals are typically more able to tolerate and survive the infection, older individuals are at higher risk for more serious outcomes related to this infection.

Communities where large populations of seniors live are advised to take proactive steps to reduce the risk of disease transmission. The Villages® is the nation’s largest 55 and older active living community.

Seniors who have serious medical conditions, such as heart or lung disease, Type II diabetes, or conditions reflective of weakened immunity are at even higher risk. These individuals can make decisions that reduce their risk of getting COVID-19. They should consider postponing participation in social events with more than 10 people, particularly those events held indoors. Everyone can help reduce the risk of community spread by their behaviors.

For mild or moderate disease, there is no current treatment that is proven to be effective; therefore, rest, fluids, quarantine and time are often the recommended treatment. For those with severe disease, in intensive care and on ventilators, there are two medications that help with symptoms and probably survival: dexamethasone and remdesivir. Convalescent plasma is also being used in hospitals and may also be beneficial. None of these are intended for prevention and should not be taken outside a hospital setting.

Everyone can help by taking the following actions:

People, if sick, should avoid contact with others
Social distancing of at least six feet is important
Consistent mask wearing is advised
Frequent handwashing, avoid shaking hands and minimize hand-to-face contact
Cover your nose and mouth when sneezing and coughing, then wash your hands
Avoid interactions that last 15 minutes and are within six feet of others, especially without masks
The Villages Health current actions to create a safer environment:

Temperature checks and questionnaire for all staff, patients and guests who enter a care center
Employees who are ill or exposed are being quarantined at home until safe for return to work
Social distancing practiced throughout the workplace
Required mask use for all in the care center (patients and guests are provided masks if they need them)
Telephone triage to help assess risk, need for testing and need for aggressive care like hospital visits
COVID-19 testing, if recommended, is performed in the parking lot to avoid potential infection of others
Patients will be called and offered a telehealth visit to provide needed care without risk of exposure in a care center
Two resources for more information:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/high-risk-complications.html
Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak (http://www.floridahealth.gov/diseases-and-conditions/COVID-19/)
The Florida Department of Health has established a call center for general questions at 866-779-6121, which is manned from 8 AM – 5 PM. Specific questions related to guidance may be directed to the Sumter County Health Department at 352-569-3102.

The Villages Health is working hard to keep you safe, while also ensuring we take care of your health care needs. As we all work together, we will continue our path to becoming America’s Healthiest Hometown®.

Sincerely,


Jeffrey Lowenkron, MD, MPP
Chief Medical Officer
The Villages Health

[billethkid]

I don't even care about these measurements. I don't care about the number of new infections. I assume everyone carries the virus and we just do our best to not catch it.



Can't you answer these questions for yourself?

Of course I can and so can anybody else. That is not what I asked to have in my post!

The objective as set aside by the scientific community/CDC/Federal Government of what they present as a unified direction recommended....as was presented earlier in the year to "flatten the curve".

That does not mean or infer not being able to do what each of us thinks are common sense precautions.

[GoodLife]

We have been hearing what to do since early March. Those very simple steps known, each of us chooses to follow or not.

What is lacking is no one source of simple to understand measurements.

Number of NEW infections (excluding repeat testers).
Number of hospitalizations by category (standard, IC, ventilator)
Number of deaths due specifically to the virus.

Just like when we were advised to "flatten the curve" during March/April.........what is the current objective/forecast/hope?

This thread has info and a link to what you want to know

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/medical-health-discussion-94/actual-florida-hospitalization-numbers-309000/

[Northwoods]

Thanks, Bogie Shooter. I probably should have posted the entire letter. I thought a lot of the information has already been communicated in numerous ways. Guess not!!

[Bogie Shooter]

Thanks, Bogie Shooter. I probably should have posted the entire letter. I thought a lot of the information has already been communicated in numerous ways. Guess not!!

I don't think the intent of the advisory was an end all to every potential statistic. However, readers/posters on here have their own agendas as to why they post some of these other alternate statistical sites.

[VApeople]

The objective as set aside by the scientific community/CDC/Federal Government of what they present as a unified direction recommended....as was presented earlier in the year to "flatten the curve".


I really do not care about the "objective as set aside by the scientific community".

My objective is to do what is best for my wife and I.

[GoodLife]

I don't think the intent of the advisory was an end all to every potential statistic. However, readers/posters on here have their own agendas as to why they post some of these other alternate statistical sites.

Alternate statistical sites? The link I posted in this thread goes hospital occupancy rates all over Florida that is updated daily and is run by a Florida State agency :ohdear:

The Agency For Health Care Administration (https://ahca.myflorida.com/)

[Skidog]

We need someone to take charge of this situation. People are confused on what to do. Such a pity.

There’s no confusion. The cdc and Dr Fauci have guidelines posted. Just read them. Everyone wear a mask, social distance and hand washing. That can’t be any easier to understand. People just are not following the guidelines.

[Tom2172]

How many of the Fl Cases are real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered major Covid reporting fraud!
Very little news is actually real - it’s all political propaganda
Manipulated to create panic just like KillerCuomo did in NY

[villageuser]

I have not seen specific local hospitalization numbers anywhere.
.
Go to
Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/7572b118dc3c48d885d1c643c195314e/)
Click on Health and Hospitalization tab at bottom. Hospitals are listed alphabetically on left side. This site has been up for awhile.

[coffeebean]

There’s no confusion. The cdc and Dr Fauci have guidelines posted. Just read them. Everyone wear a mask, social distance and hand washing. That can’t be any easier to understand. People just are not following the guidelines.

Young people are having Covid parties to see who can get the virus first. Shaking my head at these people who think they are invincible.

[miharris]

I am a patient of The Villages Health. Their Chief Medical Officer just sent a message to all patients updating them about COVID-19. The letter is longer than the segment below, but I wanted to share some interesting statistics about local hospitalizations. I have not seen specific local hospitalization numbers anywhere.

Cases of COVID-19 are increasing in Florida and locally. Today, there are 549 cases in Sumter County, with 162 occurring in the last week. In Lake County, there are 2,158 cases with 674 occurring in the last week. In Marion County, there are 1,156 cases with 379 occurring in the last week. As of this morning, there are 15 patients in the UF The Villages Hospital and 36 in UF Leesburg Hospital.16 of these patients are in intensive care.

The upward trend is accelerating and the number of known cases among 15- to 35-year-olds is surpassing those of adults aged 55 and older. While younger individuals are typically more able to tolerate and survive the infection, older individuals are at higher risk for more serious outcomes related to this infection.

Number of deaths in Sumter county in the past 8 weeks: 1

[Cheiro]

If you would like the best Florida information about the virus,check out this site. It is far and away more informative and accurate than anything else you will find. The site in interactive. Beyond the base data that is displayed, you can click on any particular county on the map and the statistics for that county will come up.

Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/7572b118dc3c48d885d1c643c195314e/)

[wilkinson]

We need someone to take charge of this situation. People are confused on what to do. Such a pity.
There IS somone in charge - it is YOU and ME. We all know the facts. Some ignorant people aren't wearing masks despite every official on public health person is telling you to wear a mask. CONFRONT every person you see without a mask - it is our duty to wear masks.

[Annie66]

Number of deaths in Sumter county in the past 8 weeks: 1

Unfortunately I knew the one victim this past week. His family (including 2 young children) are absolutely devastated. This disease is a killer.

[wirenail444]

Ware a mask, wash your hands and use sanitizer, stay away from crowds, and take charge of yourself.

[graciegirl]

How many of the Fl Cases are real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered major Covid reporting fraud!
Very little news is actually real - it’s all political propaganda
Manipulated to create panic just like KillerCuomo did in NY

I believe that Fox 35 reported that one lab was reporting all positives. It is not "all political propaganda manipulated to create panic".

Two people that we have known for more than fifty years died earlier this month in Cincinnati. They were securely and happily and delightfully married to each other and their children were friends of our children and I taught two of their granddaughters in nursery school. These very real people died within days of each other of Covid-19. We had enjoyed pictures of them earlier in the year enjoying family get togethers and in good health for their age. Two of our friends here in The Villages were sickened with Covid-19 after eating with a group of ten at Orange Blossom Gardens on St. Patrick's day. Six of the group became sick with the virus. Our friends, one was hospitalized in Ocala in intensive care for ten days and the other was very sick at home and had to be taken by ambulance to emergency room for dehydration. It isn't a seasonal virus. It is a nasty bug that is particularly dangerous to people over 65.

I am aggravated that the numbers that we are given on cases are suspect. I am mad that we cannot trust our own government for the truth and I am very aware that if we close down business we all will suffer enormously and that too will dangerously affect us all. Life runs on money.

All we can do is stay away from groups and wear a mask and wash our hands and try not to harm people who say it is all a hoax. It is a political football to be sure in my opinion.

And I just read back on the past posts of this poster and I usually agree with him. I just get so tired of people saying this isn't a dangerous situation for us.

[Mohawksin]

>> Can't you answer these questions for yourself?<<

Only if you have the data and the data is accurate. The OP is correct.

[rmd2]

Number of deaths in Sumter county in the past 8 weeks: 1

I didn't know it was that low. Good news! Where did you find this info?

[paulajr]

There IS somone in charge - it is YOU and ME. We all know the facts. Some ignorant people aren't wearing masks despite every official on public health person is telling you to wear a mask. CONFRONT every person you see without a mask - it is our duty to wear masks.

If someone “confronts” me....it is not going to end well. I wear a mask when I feel I need to, but the “mask police” need to get a grip.
As for the response elsewhere that ONE lab had misreported numbers...read the info...it was a lot more than one ...

[Timothyimitchell]

There IS somone in charge - it is YOU and ME. We all know the facts. Some ignorant people aren't wearing masks despite every official on public health person is telling you to wear a mask. CONFRONT every person you see without a mask - it is our duty to wear masks.

If you are concerned with facts, you know the masks do nothing. ZIP. The numbers are all padded. We all know it. Everyone knows it. We also know why it's happening. The silent majority is smarter than you may think.

[GoodLife]

I believe that Fox 35 reported that one lab was reporting all positives. It is not "all political propaganda manipulated to create panic".

Read the Fox 35 article again

Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results)

333 labs in Florida reported 100% positive tests, zero negatives, this info is on the State's website. This is a fact. The state has acknowledged the problem.

[psoccermom]

If you take the number of cases, as stated in the letter, and divide by the number of people in each county you get the following percent of people infected in each county:

Sumter= .41% infected, which means 99.59% are not
Marion= .32% infected, which means 99.68% are not
Lake= .59% infected, which means 99.41% are not

Think about that. The percent of people infected in the state of Florida calculates out to 1.02%, which means 98.98% of us are not.

[oldtimes]

There IS somone in charge - it is YOU and ME. We all know the facts. Some ignorant people aren't wearing masks despite every official on public health person is telling you to wear a mask. CONFRONT every person you see without a mask - it is our duty to wear masks.

The Orlando news just posted a story of a man who pulled a gun on someone who confronted him on a mask. Sometimes it is better just to mind your own business.

[allsport]

Don't count on the politicians because they do not know what they are doing. Pathetic.

[allsport]

Did you even take a stat class anytime in your lifetime. You do not know how many are infected because that letter only talks about people who are in the hospital. You have no number of how many in the county have been tested and how many are positive. You cannot make a critical thinking argument that includes the population when you do not have any idea how many actually have the virus. It is the number of tests and the number of positive. That is the only information you have. Do not assume that if people are not tested they are negative, that is just plain stupid.

[graciegirl]

Read the Fox 35 article again

Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results)

333 labs in Florida reported 100% positive tests, zero negatives, this info is on the State's website. This is a fact. The state has acknowledged the problem.




Does that mean that 333 labs in Florida only reported their positive tests and NOT their negative tests? I am a retired nursery school teacher and I heard the news too and read it from Politico, from Times Sentinel and from Fox 35. Pretty much identical articles.. I wonder who we should trust with valid information on this subject? The word "countless" sort of threw me off and I dismissed it as interpretation rather than all positive and no negative. That to me was not possible.

[theruizs]

The letter is lacking some detail if you are showing an exact quote. How many of the patients in the 2 hospitals have the virus, how many of the ICU patients have the virus? Your quote does not state that they all have Covid. Also there was a huge jump in positives at the Coleman Federal Prison in Sumter County and there is also a very large number in the Bushnell prison. Deduct those two from the total in Sumter county and we are looking very good.

And let the spin to minimize begin...:ohdear:

[theruizs]

Did you even take a stat class anytime in your lifetime. You do not know how many are infected because that letter only talks about people who are in the hospital. You have no number of how many in the county have been tested and how many are positive. You cannot make a critical thinking argument that includes the population when you do not have any idea how many actually have the virus. It is the number of tests and the number of positive. That is the only information you have. Do not assume that if people are not tested they are negative, that is just plain stupid.

You might want to use Reply With Quote just below the post your are responding to so it is clear who you are responding to. A lot of posts can get in while you are replying, and if a quote isn’t included the reply can appear to be to the original poster who started the thread.

[jblum315]

I’m not confused. I haven’t left my house in two months. Taking no chances

[GoodLife]

Does that mean that 333 labs in Florida only reported their positive tests and NOT their negative tests?

Yes

[bobm3]

Thanks GoodLife. Only having 7 ICU beds available in Sumpter County is not reassuring!

[matandch]

After reading through all the posts in this thread, I have come to the conclusion: We’re Doomed!

[TomPerrett]

Yes we are doing so good aren’t we !

[Scorpyo]

Don't count on the politicians because they do not know what they are doing. Pathetic.
Oh yes they do. Doing nothing and acting like you're doing something is doing something even though it's nothing.

[GoodLife]

Thanks GoodLife. Only having 7 ICU beds available in Sumpter County is not reassuring!

How many times do I need to say that 75-85% occupancy in ICU wards is normal when there is no pandemic going on. Not all those ICU beds are occupied by covid patients.

Sumter hospitals currently have 112 regular beds available. Not all covid patients need an ICU room, only the most serious cases.

Quote from Chief Medical Officer Villages Health email:

As of this morning, there are 15 patients in the UF The Villages Hospital and 36 in UF Leesburg Hospital.16 of these patients are in intensive care.

[roscoguy]

How many of the Fl Cases are real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered major Covid reporting fraud!
Very little news is actually real - it’s all political propaganda
Manipulated to create panic just like KillerCuomo did in NY

Where or when did they say "fraud"? The news report I saw said only that "FOX 35 News noticed errors in the state's report on positivity rates" & never even implied fraud. Could that be your interpretation?
The same report also said this, "The growing caseload is partly driven by increased testing, but a larger percentage of tests are coming back positive, jumping from 6 percent a month ago to more than 18 percent."

[Scorpyo]

I don't know, maybe I'm just dumb. Do I truly care, at this point, how many people have been tested - not really. If 30 million have been tested (roughly 10% of our pop) and 15 million tested positive what exactly would that tell me to do that I'm not already doing? I wear a mask - why? Because it "MAY" help. There's arguments both ways on that so who do you believe? Whomever you want. Social distancing and washing seem logical so I'll go with that. There's only 2 stats that interest me. One, what demographic succumbs more often to this virus. Older folks with underlying conditions. Well that's me so I take note. The other one would be if we ever get to 80% of the population testing positive then we'd be into the herd immunity ratio. I do peruse the stats but I'm a true believer in "believe none of what you hear and half of what you see". Especially in this day and age.

[GoodLife]

Where or when did they say "fraud"? The news report I saw said only that "FOX 35 News noticed errors in the state's report on positivity rates" & never even implied fraud. Could that be your interpretation?
The same report also said this, "The growing caseload is partly driven by increased testing, but a larger percentage of tests are coming back positive, jumping from 6 percent a month ago to more than 18 percent."

When you have 333 labs report only positive test results, how accurate do you think the state reports on positivity percentages are? Answer: Not very

[Joorn59]

As of today, our zip code (32162) has 184 cases. Including link to state website.

Experience (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429/)

[jimjamuser]

I am a patient of The Villages Health. Their Chief Medical Officer just sent a message to all patients updating them about COVID-19. The letter is longer than the segment below, but I wanted to share some interesting statistics about local hospitalizations. I have not seen specific local hospitalization numbers anywhere.

Cases of COVID-19 are increasing in Florida and locally. Today, there are 549 cases in Sumter County, with 162 occurring in the last week. In Lake County, there are 2,158 cases with 674 occurring in the last week. In Marion County, there are 1,156 cases with 379 occurring in the last week. As of this morning, there are 15 patients in the UF The Villages Hospital and 36 in UF Leesburg Hospital.16 of these patients are in intensive care.

The upward trend is accelerating and the number of known cases among 15- to 35-year-olds is surpassing those of adults aged 55 and older. While younger individuals are typically more able to tolerate and survive the infection, older individuals are at higher risk for more serious outcomes related to this infection.
Finally, a truth teller has emerged from the rattle of other rabble. Way to go!

[jimjamuser]

I think much of your assessment is correct and specifically your comment regarding the political divide and it’s impact. An example is the number of appearances by Dr. Fauci in front of multiple Congressional committees. Why isn’t Dr. Birx invited to testify? In my opinion she deals with data and facts and can explain where hot spots are developing, where there’s a need to increase testing, etc. Yes a little boring but that’s what facts are versus talking about anything and everything except any plan to specifically address the issue. Yes there are a lot of cases in Florida. Fifteen thousand in one day this past Sunday, yet the number of deaths that are attributed to the virus on Sunday in Florida, around 45 per the Johns Hopkins site. We don’t hear about the number of deaths anymore. And the virus is making a comeback in other parts of the world where strict measures were in place way before the US implemented measures..
Bend the truth to suit!

[Robertnavarre70]

Still can't figure out why everyone doesn't simply wear a mask when around others and focus on social distancing. THAT is the solution...and it's not political or racial....just smart

[jimjamuser]

How many of the Fl Cases are real
Fox 35 Orlando discovered major Covid reporting fraud!
Very little news is actually real - it’s all political propaganda
Manipulated to create panic just like KillerCuomo did in NY
Blame the media. Fake news. The world is flat. Science is EVIL! Yeah right. Gov. Cuomo was a politician to be proud of. What America used to expect, a transparent truth teller. For example-- Washington told the CDC to give statistics to the politicals-who will hide and massage them. Cuomo did NOT do that, he did the opposite.

[Velvet]

I love the name “KillerCuomo” he did help kill Covid for NY, although I don’t ever go to NY, I watched his efforts every day. May someone do the same for Florida!

[Bucco]

Blame the media. Fake news. The world is flat. Science is EVIL! Yeah right. Gov. Cuomo was a politician to be proud of. What America used to expect, a transparent truth teller. For example-- Washington told the CDC to give statistics to the politicals-who will hide and massage them. Cuomo did NOT do that, he did the opposite.

For all that have waited for positive news, that is all you will get from now on.

[jimjamuser]

There IS somone in charge - it is YOU and ME. We all know the facts. Some ignorant people aren't wearing masks despite every official on public health person is telling you to wear a mask. CONFRONT every person you see without a mask - it is our duty to wear masks.
I would suggest caution and politeness and respect and forbearance even. I would NOT do that. Confrontation makes everything black and white. It HARDENS opinions. Just be a role model and wear yours. The long term results will be the same. The US will eventually learn the lessons that Japan and S. Korea now know. The US is a world-class slow learner due to an inflated sense of self-worth and mistaken confidence. People are starting to get the hint even here in the Villiages. Only survival and self preservation is at stake and will WIN out eventually.

[jimjamuser]

I believe that Fox 35 reported that one lab was reporting all positives. It is not "all political propaganda manipulated to create panic".

Two people that we have known for more than fifty years died earlier this month in Cincinnati. They were securely and happily and delightfully married to each other and their children were friends of our children and I taught two of their granddaughters in nursery school. These very real people died within days of each other of Covid-19. We had enjoyed pictures of them earlier in the year enjoying family get togethers and in good health for their age. Two of our friends here in The Villages were sickened with Covid-19 after eating with a group of ten at Orange Blossom Gardens on St. Patrick's day. Six of the group became sick with the virus. Our friends, one was hospitalized in Ocala in intensive care for ten days and the other was very sick at home and had to be taken by ambulance to emergency room for dehydration. It isn't a seasonal virus. It is a nasty bug that is particularly dangerous to people over 65.

I am aggravated that the numbers that we are given on cases are suspect. I am mad that we cannot trust our own government for the truth and I am very aware that if we close down business we all will suffer enormously and that too will dangerously affect us all. Life runs on money.

All we can do is stay away from groups and wear a mask and wash our hands and try not to harm people who say it is all a hoax. It is a political football to be sure in my opinion.

And I just read back on the past posts of this poster and I usually agree with him. I just get so tired of people saying this isn't a dangerous situation for us.
Indoor dining with 10 people is now almost a death sentence for themselves and then THEY are spreaders. Not good!

[jimjamuser]

If someone “confronts” me....it is not going to end well. I wear a mask when I feel I need to, but the “mask police” need to get a grip.
As for the response elsewhere that ONE lab had misreported numbers...read the info...it was a lot more than one ...
Fiesty and frosty. Lots of adrenaline involved.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Still can't figure out why everyone doesn't simply wear a mask when around others and focus on social distancing. THAT is the solution...and it's not political or racial....just smart

A few reasons:

1. Not all adults are smart.
2. Not all parents/caretakers are smart.
3. Not all kids/people who need caretakers who DO have smart parents/caretakers, follow their parents'/caretakers' instructions.

That's all I got.

[Bellavita]

Thank you for sharing

[llmcdaniel]

As of today, Walmart announced that people everywhere must now wear masks when in their stores.

[matandch]

No shirt , no shoes, NO MASK, NO SERVICE!
Hooray! That’s one small leap for no more spread!

[rphil11ort]

i would rather know how many in the villages. last i heard only 280. and that was a spike from 208

[Northwoods]

i would rather know how many in the villages. last i heard only 280. and that was a spike from 208

As of July 15, 277 people in The Villages have tested positive for COVID-19. One in The Villages, Marion County, 16 in The Villages, Lake County, and 260 people in The Villages, Sumter County.

[anothersteve]

Read the Fox 35 article again

Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results)

333 labs in Florida reported 100% positive tests, zero negatives, this info is on the State's website. This is a fact. The state has acknowledged the problem.

I was just going to post that link.

bares repeating

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results)


Steve

[44Apple]

No matter what number you see, they are all under-reported.

[roscoguy]

When you have 333 labs report only positive test results, how accurate do you think the state reports on positivity percentages are? Answer: Not very

"Errors" is not equal to "fraud". As has already been discussed in this thread, the labs are not being accused of reporting false positives, merely not reporting the negative tests.
Does that mean that 333 labs in Florida only reported their positive tests and NOT their negative tests?
Yes
It definitely affects accuracy of infection rates, but would seem to have no bearing on total number of positive tests. To call this "fraud" is extremely misleading & biased.

[GoodLife]

"Errors" is not equal to "fraud". As has already been discussed in this thread, the labs are not being accused of reporting false positives, merely not reporting the negative tests.


It definitely affects accuracy of infection rates, but would seem to have no bearing on total number of positive tests. To call this "fraud" is extremely misleading & biased.

Arguing with a strawman again? Please quote me where I said it was fraud. I found out about this before the media was on it and don't need any lectures. Here is what I said in the thread I started about the errors.

There is a problem in that 100s of Florida labs are only reporting positive tests, not negative tests. This doesn't mean the total for positive tests is inaccurate, it means the percentage of positive test they show every day on the dashboard is inaccurate. If you don't report negative tests, your percentage of positives will be higher than it really is.

[Paporter]

Should visitors, be given guest passes based on a certified negative COVID test, within 5 days of the request for the pass? There appears to be an uptake in short term rentals, could this be a contributing factor?

[Aloha1]

I love the name “KillerCuomo” he did help kill Covid for NY, although I don’t ever go to NY, I watched his efforts every day. May someone do the same for Florida!

The "killer" acronym comes from Cuomo's executive order to put positive tested nursing home victims back into nursing homes. He is responsible for over 6,000 deaths in New York. I wouldn't want him to be dog catcher.

[Ginpappas]

I would suggest caution and politeness and respect and forbearance even. I would NOT do that. Confrontation makes everything black and white. It HARDENS opinions. Just be a role model and wear yours. The long term results will be the same. The US will eventually learn the lessons that Japan and S. Korea now know. The US is a world-class slow learner due to an inflated sense of self-worth and mistaken confidence. People are starting to get the hint even here in the Villiages. Only survival and self preservation is at stake and will WIN out eventually.

"World-class slow learner due to an inflated sense of self-worth and mistaken confidence" I have not heard it stated quite like that and unfortunately I whole heartedly agree and I ask; When did that happen to US?

[VApeople]

Should visitors, be given guest passes based on a certified negative COVID test, within 5 days of the request for the pass? There appears to be an uptake in short term rentals, could this be a contributing factor?

Does anyone understand what this poster is asking?

[roscoguy]

Arguing with a strawman again? Please quote me where I said it was fraud. I found out about this before the media was on it and don't need any lectures. Here is what I said in the thread I started about the errors.

There is a problem in that 100s of Florida labs are only reporting positive tests, not negative tests. This doesn't mean the total for positive tests is inaccurate, it means the percentage of positive test they show every day on the dashboard is inaccurate. If you don't report negative tests, your percentage of positives will be higher than it really is.



Calm down, I think you may actually be the one arguing with the straw man. Unless of course you can show where I even implied that I was quoting you as having called anything "fraud". Read post #46 again, then you can take what I said in #67 in context.
Interestingly, I actually agreed with your assertion that the rate of positive test results was in error.

[Altavia]

Does anyone understand what this poster is asking?

Does it matter, many people here answer a question they though the OP should have ask ....

[Yucatan2]

Does anyone understand what this poster is asking?

Some states, such as Maine, are requiring proof of a negative COVID test within I believe 72 hours or you must quarantine for 14 days if you want to visit there. Actually that may be all states in New England....and New York state at this point has a list of 22 states not allowed to visit.
So, maybe poster is implying that visitors from out of state should prove they are negative for COVID, or they should quarantine on arrival here.
The travel industry is really being affected by this.

[Debfrommaine]

Yes

You are right

[xcaligirl]

I wish they could break down the numbers for the Villages. Marion County is a large county with a very small portion in the Villages. Same with Sumter and Lake. Seems like all the reports want to scare the people in the Villages thinking the cases are all here.

[biker1]

Not true. About 80% of Sumter County residents live in The Villages.

I wish they could break down the numbers for the Villages. Marion County is a large county with a very small portion in the Villages. Same with Sumter and Lake. Seems like all the reports want to scare the people in the Villages thinking the cases are all here.