Refuse to wear a mask

[Jeff5115]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

[Mrprez]

I don't think there is one universal reason. Different strokes for different folks. Might have something to do with the mixed messages since this whole thing started. Don't wear a mask to masks will save your life. Which is it?

[Two Bills]

I hate masks.
Given the chance I will not wear one.
But how hard is it to slip one on when entering an area when in close proximity to others, and tale it off when not.
Will it stop me catching the virus. No.
Will it reduce the % chances of me passing it on, or catching it? Yes.
It's a no brainer in my book!!

[Clarinet]

Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

[Altavia]

Interesting blog of the social media impact and psychology behind the conflict.

ZDoggMD - Wonder why your friend's posts make you... | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/407504242094/posts/10158356417052095/)

[davem4616]

I don't think there is one universal reason. Different strokes for different folks. Might have something to do with the mixed messages since this whole thing started. Don't wear a mask to masks will save your life. Which is it?


I don't believe that it's a result of mixed messages at all

these are just people that quite frankly just don't give a damn
and nobody's going to tell them what to do

but what do I know...I'm just happy that I'll be able to write in my memoirs about the many times that I walked into a bank with a mask on, told the teller that I wanted money and I got away with it !!!!!

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[Stu from NYC]

I find it very uncomfortable to wear a mask for more than say a half hour but it is the right thing to do so we will always wear one when around others.

[coffeebean]

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[coffeebean]

Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

I also heard that information on the news yesterday. Why isn't this information enough for our leaders to mandate mask wearing when INDOORS and distancing from others is not guaranteed? That should be a no brainer, especially when it comes to our public health.

[DeanFL]

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[billethkid]

If it helps to stop or slow down the spread there is no reason to debate whether to wear one or not.
Why? Because no matter what there will always be the minority of any group that will not comply for what ever the reason.

I would ask each of those who choose not to wear a mask and HELP.

Visualize someone in your family gets infected. Then they need to be hospitalized. THEN remember the scene when the loved one is wheeled into the hospital......NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN..... until or unless they survive and released from the hospital.
For those who do not.....remember the last time you got to see them....being wheeled into the hospital.

Maybe that would inspire some of the no mask hold outs to give it some consideration.

It is just too easy to do what it is that could help EVERYBODY!

[karostay]

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[OrangeBlossomBaby]

If it helps to stop or slow down the spread there is no reason to debate whether to wear one or not.
Why? Because no matter what there will always be the minority of any group that will not comply for what ever the reason.

I would ask each of those who choose not to wear a mask and HELP.

Visualize someone in your family gets infected. Then they need to be hospitalized. THEN remember the scene when the loved one is wheeled into the hospital......NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN..... until or unless they survive and released from the hospital.
For those who do not.....remember the last time you got to see them....being wheeled into the hospital.

Maybe that would inspire some of the no mask hold outs to give it some consideration.

It is just too easy to do what it is that could help EVERYBODY!

Some seniors never grew, emotionally, beyond the early teens. They're sure that they're invincible and nothing can or will ever happen to them or their loved ones. They live outside of reality. Until it bites them in the behind. And then, they'll wonder "WHY?" WHY me? Why my mom? Why my son? WHY such nice neighbors?

Because they reject reality and see only the scope of their own ignorance.

To those who are offended by this: look in a mirror. You're probably one of the people I'm talking about.

[Buckeye Boy]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

[New Englander]

I hate wearing a mask. BUT, I always wear one when going into any type of building like food stores etc. I do it because it's the right thing to do!

[Buckeye Boy]

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[billethkid]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

Once there is a "reason" (real or otherwise) for exception there is no end to the confusing fluff (BS) that will be invented plus makes it impossible to enforce.

So yes.....they should wear a mask because it is the mandate for the general good.....no exceptions to confuse enforcement.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

Yes, they should. Why? Because you don't know WHO in that store is refusing a mask because they're immune and can't possibly be carriers.

The store management doesn't check medical records of the customers on their way in. We don't know, what we don't know.

If Joe Immune refuses to wear a mask, and Susie Asymptomatic sees him not wearing a mask, and sees that the store manager isn't enforcing it for Joe Immune, then there's no reason for Susie to feel that she should have to wear a mask. SHE Doesn't ask Joe why he isn't wearing one either. They're strangers.

There are thousands of people who REFUSE to wear a mask. Set the example. Be an adult.

[graciegirl]

Some seniors never grew, emotionally, beyond the early teens. They're sure that they're invincible and nothing can or will ever happen to them or their loved ones. They live outside of reality. Until it bites them in the behind. And then, they'll wonder "WHY?" WHY me? Why my mom? Why my son? WHY such nice neighbors?

Because they reject reality and see only the scope of their own ignorance.

To those who are offended by this: look in a mirror. You're probably one of the people I'm talking about.

Me being a senior to many posters rankle at words making olders look ignorant. Especially my peers here in The Villages.

It appears that MOST of the seniors living in and around The Villages are taking this pandemic very seriously. Look at the low numbers of Sumter County and the overwhelming responses of almost everyone I communicate with who has a real name on Facebook. You can tell by how they manage the rest of their lives that they are mostly prudent people. We have the best credit ratings in The Villages, the best in The Country. We think ahead, save our money and take care of our own.

And we give nasty microbes a wide berth and have attractive masks too.

[Martian]

I like to think that in days gone by, people would have looked to the government to provide solid consistent guidance in what we should do in the pandemic.

At this point, I think that the advice would have been something like, "This is a new virus and the science is not clear about what to do and how to minimize the risk. Therefore, in the meantime, while we research and develop methods to control or stop the spread of the virus, here are the things we currently think should be done".

Instead, in today's political environment we are bombarded with misinformation - from BOTH sides - leaving everyone confused as to just what should and should not be done. One day a scientist is hailed as the voice of reason and sound guidance, then suddenly he is a liar and everything he said for the past 7 months is a lie. Seriously?

So, things like wearing a mask, become a political dog whistle, instead of an inexpensive thing that can be done easily by everyone to at least help - not cure, not solve, not make the virus go away. Just help. You know, Americans helping Americans. If we can do enough things to HELP maybe more of us will get through this alive.

But, not today, not with the hate and division. Just this week a person not wearing a mask in a Walmart was confronted and in response pulled a gun on the person telling them to put on a mask. Seriously, threaten to kill someone over wearing a mask?

I suggest everyone take a deep breath and maybe, just maybe stop calling the other side terrorists and traitors.

Maybe if every time you feel the urge to call someone a derogatory name, you substitute American - and see if that might just help tone down the vitriolic rhetoric? And let's give this "America Love it or Leave It" dog whistle a rest. This is America, we are Americans. One of the things that have ALWAYS made America great was that we could disagree with each other, but still be Americans first and Republican or Democrat, or Conservative or Liberal second.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I like to think that in days gone by, people would have looked to the government to provide solid consistent guidance in what we should do in the pandemic.

At this point, I think that the advice would have been something like, "This is a new virus and the science is not clear about what to do and how to minimize the risk. Therefore, in the meantime, while we research and develop methods to control or stop the spread of the virus, here are the things we currently think should be done".

Instead, in today's political environment we are bombarded with misinformation - from BOTH sides - leaving everyone confused as to just what should and should not be done. One day a scientist is hailed as the voice of reason and sound guidance, then suddenly he is a liar and everything he said for the past 7 months is a lie. Seriously?

So, things like wearing a mask, become a political dog whistle, instead of an inexpensive thing that can be done easily by everyone to at least help - not cure, not solve, not make the virus go away. Just help. You know, Americans helping Americans. If we can do enough things to HELP maybe more of us will get through this alive.

But, not today, not with the hate and division. Just this week a person not wearing a mask in a Walmart was confronted and in response pulled a gun on the person telling them to put on a mask. Seriously, threaten to kill someone over wearing a mask?

I suggest everyone take a deep breath and maybe, just maybe stop calling the other side terrorists and traitors.

Maybe if every time you feel the urge to call someone a derogatory name, you substitute American - and see if that might just help tone down the vitriolic rhetoric? And let's give this "America Love it or Leave It" dog whistle a rest. This is America, we are Americans. One of the things that have ALWAYS made America great was that we could disagree with each other, but still be Americans first and Republican or Democrat, or Conservative or Liberal second.

Hey I'm all for your idea and generally embrace the concept. But good luck implementing it. I for one won't hold my breath. As the old saw goes: trust in the lord, but tie up your camel.

I trust in this country to get through all this - but I'm not putting my money on individual people to ALL do their part.

[Dana1963]

Can’t fix the unfixable. I just wonder what people do not understand about the virus it’s not the common flu or cold. Secondly people lined up last week for FREE testing did they possibly volunteer to self quarantining while waiting for results or just go out and possibly spread the virus. Trying not to be political but since states reopened with minimal federal guidance or following CDC guidelines, I am now calling it Covid-45 not 19Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

[xcaligirl]

I'm not a fan of the mask however I wear one in public out of respect! It's not because I think they are not effective, some reports state they are, some say not. They make me hot and it feels like I'm suffocating BUT I wear it in public places! Helps getting the grocery shopping finished faster! 😂

[JoeinFL]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

This virus is still very new. The doctors and scientists are learning about new information on a daily basis. So, the guidance they put out changes also. As far as your “doctors in the know”. Let’s see a link.
Your comment about people that had the virus be expected to wear a mask to make others feel better is ludicrous.
Wear a damn mask.

[queasy27]

I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask?

Among other reasons, there's the "my body, my choice" contingent, the "you're not the boss of me" folks, the people who claim (wrongly) that "nobody can mandate my health choices, the "it's all overblown nonsense by the mainstream media" and "person X doesn't wear them so I don't need to." There's also a conspiracy-oriented minority who believe that masks are killing us! (https://youtu.be/wvwijrBtNbk?t=11)

I'm also still wearing gloves, which seems to have fallen by the wayside. I went to the ophthalmologist today and felt comfortable holding the paperwork clipboard and when the doctor handed me that plastic thing to cover one eye. I put gloves on whenever I enter an enclosed space and throw them away when I exit.

[coffeebean]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

There should be a T-Shirt that says, "I BEAT Covid-19. I can NOT infect you"

[coffeebean]

Among other reasons, there's the "my body, my choice" contingent, the "you're not the boss of me" folks, the people who claim (wrongly) that "nobody can mandate my health choices, the "it's all overblown nonsense by the mainstream media" and "person X doesn't wear them so I don't need to." There's also a conspiracy-oriented minority who believe that masks are killing us! (https://youtu.be/wvwijrBtNbk?t=11)

I'm also still wearing gloves, which seems to have fallen by the wayside. I went to the ophthalmologist today and felt comfortable holding the paperwork clipboard and when the doctor handed me that plastic thing to cover one eye. I put gloves on whenever I enter an enclosed space and throw them away when I exit.
You don't need to wear gloves and be fearful of all surfaces in your world. Wash your hands when you are able to and do not touch your face when you are out in public. It is really that simple.

[NotGolfer]

I've heard many reasons...one is they have asthma and it's harder to breathe with one on. Another is they have anxiety issues like PTSD that sets them off. I've seen some other reasons as well. As for masks---there is still speculation between experts that they even work. I think until it's conclusive "some" prefer not to. My question is..."they" tell us to wear masks AND social distance. IF the mask works then why social distance? If the mask works why can't family members be with dying family members or visit loved ones in care centers?

[JoMar]

I've heard many reasons...one is they have asthma and it's harder to breathe with one on. Another is they have anxiety issues like PTSD that sets them off. I've seen some other reasons as well. As for masks---there is still speculation between experts that they even work. I think until it's conclusive "some" prefer not to. My question is..."they" tell us to wear masks AND social distance. IF the mask works then why social distance? If the mask works why can't family members be with dying family members or visit loved ones in care centers?

Not an either/or. The more steps you take, mask, distance, washing, the more you will do will help stop this thing. In a care center, doesn't take much to infect as there are mostly vulnerable folks in them. If I would be asymptomatic I could infect a bunch and not know it, so why take the chance? My wife's 98 year old mother is an an assisted living facility and she can't visit. It hurts but both her and her sister understand the risks to others and know even complying with the masks, distancing and washing there is a chance so they support the restrictions. More important is their mother also understands and prefers they stay away for now.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've heard many reasons...one is they have asthma and it's harder to breathe with one on. Another is they have anxiety issues like PTSD that sets them off. I've seen some other reasons as well. As for masks---there is still speculation between experts that they even work. I think until it's conclusive "some" prefer not to. My question is..."they" tell us to wear masks AND social distance. IF the mask works then why social distance? If the mask works why can't family members be with dying family members or visit loved ones in care centers?

Okay everyone in the balcony section, say it with me:

RISK
REDUCTION

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

It'll be interesting to see how many people will lie about "medical reasons" to all the stores that have recently implemented a REQUIREMENT that all customers wear masks in their stores. Medical reasons and "very young children" are the only exceptions to the rule, and as far as I know, there doesn't exist any way for a store to tell if a person is telling the truth or not when they say "I don't have to wear a mask, my doctor says so."

[coffeebean]

Anyone who claims they have a medical reason for not wearing a mask, can just stay home. OR.........To gain entry, a person should have to produce a letter from a physician on the physician's letter head that they have a medical condition and are not able to wear a mask.

[Northwoods]

Some seniors never grew, emotionally, beyond the early teens. They're sure that they're invincible and nothing can or will ever happen to them or their loved ones. They live outside of reality. Until it bites them in the behind. And then, they'll wonder "WHY?" WHY me? Why my mom? Why my son? WHY such nice neighbors?

Because they reject reality and see only the scope of their own ignorance.

To those who are offended by this: look in a mirror. You're probably one of the people I'm talking about.

FIrst of all, let me say that I wear a mask every time I go to the grocery store or whenever I go into any store (although I rarely go into any store other than a grocery store).

Whenever I'm out, I see that most seniors comply with the mask rule. I think many seniors are cautious because they know they are in a higher risk group.

My experience has been that younger people are the ones that don't wear a mask when they go into a grocery store or other buildings.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Anyone who claims they have a medical reason for not wearing a mask, can just stay home. OR.........To gain entry, a person should have to produce a letter from a physician on the physician's letter head that they have a medical condition and are not able to wear a mask.

You know this is the age of the internet - and word processing is pretty easy to do. And people have Photoshop or similar programs. And that not all people who shop at these stores are unskilled seniors who don't know how easy it is to make up a fake letterhead of a non-existent doctor and scrawl some ink on the bottom as a pretend signature. They could even make a fake "medical exception card" and laminate it with clear packing tape, so they can re-use it without having to reprint it.

You can make a fake letter in 5-10 minutes, depending on how fast you type.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

FIrst of all, let me say that I wear a mask every time I go to the grocery store or whenever I go into any store (although I rarely go into any store other than a grocery store).

Whenever I'm out, I see that most seniors comply with the mask rule. I think many seniors are cautious because they know they are in a higher risk group.

My experience has been that younger people are the ones that don't wear a mask when they go into a grocery store or other buildings.

My experience, as someone who actually works in one of those grocery stores, is that it's a mixed bag. There are seniors who refuse to wear them, and non-senior grownup adults who refuse to wear them. There are some who don't actually refuse, they just don't give it a second thought. And there are some who intended to wear them but forgot to bring them with them, and those folks usually apologize for it, or go back to their cars and retrieve them out of the glove compartment (or the rear view mirror, where it was hanging).

The ones who make sure we all know they're refusing to wear them - are mostly seniors. The ones who seem to be oblivious are mostly the grown up adults. Strangely enough, the young adults - the teenagers and young 20-somethings - tend to be more vigilant than any other demographic. They are almost always covering their mouths and noses with a mask in the stores.

[DeanFL]

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[Tblue]

I may be sorry I put my 2 cents in here. I wore a mask for 38 years, it does not make me a “mask expert” but I do know just a little about them. To be the most effective you need a proper fit, around the nose and sides, sometimes tape is needed for a proper seal around the nose. It seems common knowledge masks do not protect the wearer because the virus is so much smaller than the fiber in a medical grade mask, but maybe not the N95 mask. Many say wear the mask to protect others. It is also common knowledge that to spread the virus you generally need have to have symptoms, coughing, congestion, fever and such. In todays world if you have symptoms you just need to stay home. However if you do have symptoms and cough the mask will catch the moisture and maybe stop some of the virus attached to the moisture, a good thing. But how much of the virus is just coughed out thru the mask fibers or an improper fit that is not attached to moisture? But yes it should stop some of the spread. However when I see people wearing masks in the store they are fiddling with them, so now the virus is on your hands. Next issue is when you get back in your car and take the mask off and place it in the console you have contaminated your hands again and the inside of your car. What if you just drove with the mask on and went home, as soon as you walk in the house off comes the mask and you generally put it on the counter. Again you contaminated your hands and your counter top. So yes, masks will stop some of the spread if you have symptoms and are around people but any good from the mask is un-done or even reversed in my opinion by not properly sealing the mask, fiddling with the mask, removing the mask and likely contaminating your hands and the inside of your car or home counter top. Many will reuse the contaminated mask. Just my thoughts, if you have symptoms stay home, wash you hands and keep them away from your face as we were advise early on. I do not wear a mask, unless the store requires one, I slip on a new mask as I enter making sure I have as good as seal as possible, it’s not that difficult. I try not to fiddle with it and remove it in such a way as not to contaminate my hands best I can, and throw the mask away. I have a small spray alcohol bottle in the car and spray my hand. If I had symptoms and had to use a mask I would do the same thing but dispose of the mask in a sealed plastic sandwich bag.

[EdFNJ]

My experience, as someone who actually works in one of those grocery stores, is that it's a mixed bag. There are seniors who refuse to wear them, and non-senior grownup adults who refuse to wear them. There are some who don't actually refuse, they just don't give it a second thought. And there are some who intended to wear them but forgot to bring them with them, and those folks usually apologize for it, or go back to their cars and retrieve them out of the glove compartment (or the rear view mirror, where it was hanging).

The ones who make sure we all know they're refusing to wear them - are mostly seniors. The ones who seem to be oblivious are mostly the grown up adults. Strangely enough, the young adults - the teenagers and young 20-somethings - tend to be more vigilant than any other demographic. They are almost always covering their mouths and noses with a mask in the stores.


I agree with you except for the part in red. It is mainly those "young adults" people who have caused this horrible resurgence at the bars, "covid parties" and beaches. FL was doing relatively OK until someone opened everything up starting around Memorial Day and let the kiddies run amok.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I agree with you except for the part in red. It is mainly those "young adults" people who have caused this horrible resurgence at the bars, "covid parties" and beaches. FL was doing relatively OK until someone opened everything up starting around Memorial Day and let the kiddies run amok.

Except bars, covid parties, and beaches aren't "people in grocery stores."

I was responding to the post that said they saw mostly younger people refusing to wear masks in grocery stores. I am saying - as someone who works in one, my observation shows the exact opposite. It's why I said "strangely enough." Because you'd think all those young kids who refuse to wear them everywhere else, would also refuse to wear them in grocery stores. My take-away on that is - the ones who refuse to wear them everywhere else - are NOT the ones who go to grocery stores. THOSE "kids" at the grocery stores seem to be of a higher class of our species.

[jet10s]

I also heard that information on the news yesterday. Why isn't this information enough for our leaders to mandate mask wearing when INDOORS and distancing from others is not guaranteed? That should be a no brainer, especially when it comes to our public health.
because the science does not prove anything about wearing cotton rags on your face -- and I will not wear one -- and that is that -- shop will be on-line

[Yung Dum]

Yes. We all aren't fortunate enough to have beaten this disease.

[Yung Dum]

Wearing a mask does not make you a wimp, a liberal, or a frightened paranoid germaphobe. It does, however, show that you care about the health of your fellow human beings. If everyone wore a mask at all times in public, we could open up everything and go back to business as usual, though to a slightly lesser extent (such as wearing masks). But if millions of people refuse to wear them whatever reason, whether it’s political, personal comfort, or vanity this thing will never get better. If you feel a mask has a detrimental effect on your own health, don’t go out. If it’s uncomfortable, wear a face shield. But don’t put others at risk for your own sake. A mask is not to prevent you from catching the virus, but to prevent you from spreading it. Even if you tested negative yesterday, you could be positive today. A test does not make you immune. Instead of working together as a nation, we have chosen to make this a largely political issue, making it worse for all of us. Our elected officials (both parties) have all done their best to stoke the flames of division on this. Do you really believe the entire world cares so much about our elections that they are willing to go along with this so-called hoax? Come on people. Wake up to reality. We’re all Americans who love our country. Why can’t we work together on at least this one issue? At least can’t we give a try? That would make America great again.

[kannon]

I hate masks.
Given the chance I will not wear one.
But how hard is it to slip one on when entering an area when in close proximity to others, and tale it off when not.
Will it stop me catching the virus. No.
Will it reduce the % chances of me passing it on, or catching it? Yes.
It's a no brainer in my book!!

I think this is by far the best way to summarize where we are at and where we need to be as a nation. WW II we were mobilized as a country. Time for us now to do the same. We can do it. We just have to work together.

[tsmall22204]

It is so amazing that the very people that could barely pass science in school know so much about science now. WEAR THE DAMN MASK and just shut up.

[nick demis]

Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

If you believe that if everyone wares a mask, it will curb the virus in 8 weeks, I have a bridge to sell you in New York City

[Rosebud1949]

NO MASK NO SERVICE..........a short time wearing it in a grocery store etc could save a life YOURS... so Wear a Mask, and save a life, before someone wearing a medical mask HAS TO SAVE YOURS. Strange, you would not turn away help from a person wearing one, if you were in desperate need of medical care !!!! SHAME ON YOU

It seems that those who refuse to wear one have never had a loved one catch this virus...... sure many would wish that on them.

[RBW225]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?
Interesting question. I'm sure there are multiple strange reasons, but if they knew that if all wore masks over a period of time, they could go to the bars, dine inside and small businesses would survive it might help.

[Joanne19335]

Some seniors never grew, emotionally, beyond the early teens. They're sure that they're invincible and nothing can or will ever happen to them or their loved ones. They live outside of reality. Until it bites them in the behind. And then, they'll wonder "WHY?" WHY me? Why my mom? Why my son? WHY such nice neighbors?

Because they reject reality and see only the scope of their own ignorance.

To those who are offended by this: look in a mirror. You're probably one of the people I'm talking about.

Well said, OBB! Lots of selfish folks everywhere you turn.

[DrBrutyle109]

Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?
Prove it!

[Annie66]

I know this video will not change many minds, but it reinforces the value of masks.

Sask Masks - Experiment results from a Mask vs. No Mask... (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=762968951107182)

[tsmall22204]

Anyone that does not wear a mask became it is uncomfortable, try a ventilator for several weeks and let me know if that is more comfortable.

[JOG]

Can't wear a masked so my Dr recommended a face shield.

[JoelJohnson]

"No shirt No service", at restaurants. Seat belts in cars. These are things that saves lives. Masks stop the spread of moisture from your mouth (try blowing out a candle with a mask on).

Right now one person spreads Covid-19 to 2.5 people, we need to get that down to below 1 to stop the spread.

Remember, Covid-19 does not care about politics, who you are, how much money you have. It will kill anybody that can't fight it off, sick or healthy. It may not kill you, but it might kill me if you spread it to me or my family.

If you want things to go back to "normal" help stop this thing.

[fdpaq0580]

There should be a T-Shirt that says, "I BEAT Covid-19. I can NOT infect you"

Great idea, but it wouldn't work. They would be purchased on line by the same kind of folks that are not handicapped but use fake handicapped placards, or the folks that take their pets into places they shouldn't be and claim their pet is a service animal. You know, the dishonest people.
Still, it is a great idea to sell a lot of t-shirts. "$19.99. But if you order now we'll send you a second one free. Just
pay the extra shipping ($40.00)."

Stay well. Stay safe. Wear a mask. Peace!

[swooner]

I hate masks.
Given the chance I will not wear one.
But how hard is it to slip one on when entering an area when in close proximity to others, and tale it off when not.
Will it stop me catching the virus. No.
Will it reduce the % chances of me passing it on, or catching it? Yes.
It's a no brainer in my book!!
No more grocery shopping for you!

[DecaturFargo]

Please. That's not what anyone is talking about. And, besides the well-known epidemiologists are uncertain about re-exposure and contracting. Just wear a mask. It's that simple.

[Kasolnic]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?
Exactly!

[mdsimon1]

I hope that those who refuse to wear masks because they are uncomfortable, also refuse to be put on a ventilator because I've heard that's really uncomfortable. That will free up a ventilator for someone who got sick because someone else didn't wear a mask. It sounds fair to me.

[lwest542]

I wonder how much of it is vanity? Its a thought........next time ask yourself if the person not wearing the mask thinks they need to display their face...

[Marcyd]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊

[Niferlou06]

We live in a very selfish society; sadly. Wear a mask; for the greater good. Let’s stop this. We do not know sufficient information about this virus therefore for everyone to be safe wear a mask or stay home.

[jacksonbrown]

Although I wear a face mask (when required), many medical "experts" contend that by wearing masks you may be delaying others from developing memory antibodies for long-lasting protection against viral infection.

Antibodies, not vaccinations, will allow our society to more quickly return to normal.

[La lamy]

I feel like I'm suffocating when I wear a legit blue mask, so I made some from cotton fabric. Hopefully people get a giggle out of them.https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=85291&stc=1&d=1594985899

[Nell57]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?
I have seen this report on the news several times on several different networks.
Scientists retested Covid survivors at three month and six month intervals. Many survivors had no antibodies in their system after 3 months, and are vulnerable again. That is the data for THIS virus at this point in time.
COvid is. Novel virus that has morphed and changed several . times.
All we can do is go on today’s knowledge, realizing that facts may change tomorrow.
😷

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

I think that the problem with this post is that it's "the latest discussion". It seems that the latest information changes daily or at least weekly.

And just because it's a discussion on the news doesn't mean that it's accurate.

I believe that because of this along with the inaccurate reporting of data that some people believe that the virus is not as big of a problem as some are making it out to be.

Personally, I wear a mask whenever I enter a public building. I think that the virus is serious and I understand that the experts are dealing with something that they've never dealt with before so there is a steep learning curve. But for many people, the changing information and falsification of numbers is enough to make them believe that it's all a big hoax.

[kendi]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

I agree with a previous response, lots of different reasons. I know some who consider the hype to be political and they consider mask wearers to be mindlessly following the crowd. Others simply don’t believe it’s real or a serious situation. Some say it’s media hype. Others don’t believe mask help. And I’m sure there are many other reasons. Thanks for asking rather than criticizing like many do. Sometimes it seems the nastiness this virus has brought out in many is worse than the virus itself.

[Luc582]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

I wear a mask purely as a courtesy to those that serve us and are mandated to wear a mask when working. Does the mask protects me? Not really. If someone sneezes or coughs near me, the micro spray generated would most likely reach my eyes, which are great recipients for any forms of microbes or virus traveling through the air. So a mask would not protect me. The debate of the masks has been used as a political tool by our politicians and media. Until the elections, we are doomed with such debate of mask pros and cons.

So if someone doesn’t wear a mask when entering a public building or any establishments, they are not courteous to those that serves them.

[Bill1701]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

It's a silent protest against the people who bring their dogs in to stores.

[cathiehines]

Also, you're told not to touch your face. I see people constantly picking up items on shelves that have been touched by others and then adjusting the mask as their glasses are fogging up or they are having difficulty breathing. Unless you have an N95 mask, these other disposable and designer cloth masks are pretty much useless. Plus, there are differing medical opinions about the masks. Fauci is a joke, changing his advice everytime the wind blows. Such a glory hound.

[kendi]

We live in a very selfish society; sadly. Wear a mask; for the greater good. Let’s stop this. We do not know sufficient information about this virus therefore for everyone to be safe wear a mask or stay home.

The people I talk to that don’t wear masks are not selfish in character nor is their decision not to wear one selfish. It’s really not appropriate to make a general statement like that about non mask wearers.

[kendi]

I wonder how much of it is vanity? Its a thought........next time ask yourself if the person not wearing the mask thinks they need to display their face...

I seriously doubt it’s about vanity. I’ve never heard anyone worried about how they look in a mask or comment on how others look. A mask doesn’t change your face, just hides it more.

[jafrmohio]

You’re so right and I believe the major reason we are under water with Covid. From the beginning we have had mixed messages. People choose to believe what suited them.

[DeanFL]

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[Bonnevie]

From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊

what would be helpful when someone cites research is to provide a the link that supports what they are saying. here is a link from the American Lung Assoc. that rebuts what you say. From the Frontlines: The Truth About Masks and COVID-19 | American Lung Association (https://www.lung.org/blog/covid-masks)

[Singerlady]

You misunderstand about asymptomatic not spreading the virus. All it takes is droplets. If the droplets are ‘infected’ but you’re not showing symptoms (Asymptomatic ), you’ll share the disease. But you don’t KNOW you have the virus. I prefer to take every cautionary suggestion to not infect YOU. Please do the same for me. Thx.

[merrymini]

Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

I do not believe that the masks are only to protect others from yourself. When people have chemo and are immune compromised, they wear masks To protect themselves from others and their germs. Do not believe, uncritically, the stuff you read. The supposed experts do not know or they would not be changing their mind every ten minutes.

[Taltarzac725]

My librarianship training makes me love this. People should dig for the best information on subjects and the American Lung Association is a great source for reliable information unlike some very well paid talking head on Fox News who are in it for the $$$$ as adjusted by their ratings.

what would be helpful when someone cites research is to provide a the link that supports what they are saying. here is a link from the American Lung Assoc. that rebuts what you say. From the Frontlines: The Truth About Masks and COVID-19 | American Lung Association (https://www.lung.org/blog/covid-masks)

From the Frontlines: The Truth About Masks and COVID-19 | American Lung Association (https://www.lung.org/blog/covid-masks)

[NorskiCroat]

It is also common knowledge that to spread the virus you generally need have to have symptoms, coughing, congestion, fever and such.

While the World Health Organization did say that asymptomatic spread of COVID is rare, they walked back that statement the next day. As of July 10, CDC says 40% of COVID cases are spread by asymptomatic people. That means, quite simply, that people who are not coughing, congested, or have a fever are spreading COVID every hour of every day. Please wear a mask.

[overcha]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

Holy Cow, some people are just Stubborn !

[Eg_cruz]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?
Because some people started a conspiracy theory that this was a ploy and it became politics not a health issue

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

because the science does not prove anything about wearing cotton rags on your face -- and I will not wear one -- and that is that -- shop will be on-line

So then you have chosen to isolate yourself. That's awesome, and I thank you for it. I wish everyone else who refuses to wear a mask would do the same. Sadly - many will not.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊

Well then there are a few things happening with you:

1. You don't understand even a little bit.
2. You are researching the wrong things.
3. Whatever you are researching, you're reading the wrong results of the research.
4. Every single thing you've posted in the quote above is 100% incorrect.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I wear a mask purely as a courtesy to those that serve us and are mandated to wear a mask when working. Does the mask protects me? Not really. If someone sneezes or coughs near me, the micro spray generated would most likely reach my eyes, which are great recipients for any forms of microbes or virus traveling through the air. So a mask would not protect me. The debate of the masks has been used as a political tool by our politicians and media. Until the elections, we are doomed with such debate of mask pros and cons.

So if someone doesn’t wear a mask when entering a public building or any establishments, they are not courteous to those that serves them.

If that person who is coughing and sneezing in your direction is wearing a mask, it will have a much better chance of filtering out the saliva droplets that could reach your eyes.

So you'll have a bunch of different types of protection going on, if EVERYONE complied:

You have a REDUCED RISK of someone spreading their disease to you because of THEIR mask, and a reduced risk of you receiving those droplets because of all the places likely for you to receive it: 2 eyes, 2 nostrils, 1 mouth - 3 of the 5 openings will have a form of filter covering them. If you normally wear glasses, then all 5 will have some form of filter or barrier protection on them.

It's not foolproof. It's not a preventative. It's a reduction of risk.

[psoccermom]

People need to stop being so judgmental. I can't wear a mask because of a panic disorder. If I feel like I can't breathe it will trigger a panic attack. If you see me without a mask it is not because I don't care about you or am being discourteous, it's because of a medical condition. If you feel your mask is protecting you then you should have no issue with me. I keep my distance from you and I wash my hands all the time. Don't talk to me to cause me to expel droplets. I am trying to live my life as safely as I can without spreading germs. Please show respect for others, who can't for medical reasons, wear a mask. (FYI- according to the ADA you can't ask people with medical conditions to prove it. It's illegal)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

People need to stop being so judgmental. I can't wear a mask because of a panic disorder. If I feel like I can't breathe it will trigger a panic attack. If you see me without a mask it is not because I don't care about you or am being discourteous, it's because of a medical condition. If you feel your mask is protecting you then you should have no issue with me. I keep my distance from you and I wash my hands all the time. Don't talk to me to cause me to expel droplets. I am trying to live my life as safely as I can without spreading germs. Please show respect for others, who can't for medical reasons, wear a mask. (FYI- according to the ADA you can't ask people with medical conditions to prove it. It's illegal)

Please show respect for others, and stay out of places where OTHER people might bump into YOU. Stay away from crowds. Stay away from any place that has people walking through lines to get from point A to point B (such as the area where people line up for to check out their groceries - there is cross-traffic).

Or get a face shield. Or take a Xanax on days when you know you'll be exposed to that much stress, and put the mask on anyway.

[Ele201]

Like most things in life, I think it’s a matter of common sense. People can take a mask with them when they leave the house. If they’re in a crowded place, wear it. But if they’re not in 6 feet of anyone, not necessary.

Maybe some don’t wear masks because they don’t have any, and don’t want to buy them. Masks can be expensive. Retail stores, grocers, banks — supply masks to customers. It would make things easier. We should be on overdrive in the US pumping out masks at this point. Majority still come from China. What about “made in the USA”? Let’s see it!

[Bjeanj]

From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊
I politely disagree with the “up to 60%” comment. I was curious, so I checked my blood oxygen while wearing my mask. I saw no difference after 20 minutes. Not a scientific study, but good enough for me.

[erojohn]

Dr Kelly Victory, MD | Explains Everything about Covid19 | Social Distancing | Herd Immunity - YouTube (https://youtu.be/OMdeA3QOMTE)
This will probably get taken off but here goes. Dr Victory yes real name, has some interesting views. Keep an open mind and spend a few minutes taking in this information. All we have is time. You may change your mind. This is not political, Just information.

[Bonnevie]

Dr Kelly Victory, MD | Explains Everything about Covid19 | Social Distancing | Herd Immunity - YouTube (https://youtu.be/OMdeA3QOMTE)
This will probably get taken off but here goes. Dr Victory yes real name, has some interesting views. Keep an open mind and spend a few minutes taking in this information. All we have is time. You may change your mind. This is not political, Just information.

I watched it. but I note she is not an infectious disease specialist, in fact it looks like she has spent most of her career working for private companies, not doing clinical work.

I still prefer the American Lung Assoc. or the CDC or Dr. Fauci.....

[RDhot]

The people refusing to wear masks are not doing it because they’re certain they have already had it and can’t get it again. They’re doing it because they are entitled, disrespectful and Unwilling to comply because they think The rules don’t apply to them. You’re giving people way too much credit

[Rosie1950]

Among other reasons, there's the "my body, my choice" contingent, the "you're not the boss of me" folks, the people who claim (wrongly) that "nobody can mandate my health choices, the "it's all overblown nonsense by the mainstream media" and "person X doesn't wear them so I don't need to." There's also a conspiracy-oriented minority who believe that masks are killing us! (https://youtu.be/wvwijrBtNbk?t=11)

I'm also still wearing gloves, which seems to have fallen by the wayside. I went to the ophthalmologist today and felt comfortable holding the paperwork clipboard and when the doctor handed me that plastic thing to cover one eye. I put gloves on whenever I enter an enclosed space and throw them away when I exit.

I don’t wear gloves when out but I always have on a mask. I keep some in the glove boxes of the car and the cart.
As far as the absolutely capricious concept of some individuals “nobody can mandate my health choices, or my body my choice”, they have a very sad awaking. YOU DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE TO INFLICT PERSONAL HARM TO OTHERS.
1) You CANNOT smoke in public buildings.
2) You CANNOT drive under the influence.
3) You CANNOT drive without a seatbelt.
4) In many states, not all states,you CANNOT transport a gun over state lines.
5) You CANNOT be in a public space knowing you have Tuberculosis without talking your meds.
6) You CANNOT yell fire in a movie theater or any other public crowded building with the intention of causing a stampede.
7) In many States you CANNOT drive while distracted. This includes talking on hand held cell phones, texting, even a sexual encounter ( believe it or not, that does happen)

Feel free to add any other CANNOTS to this list.
This list has all arrest offenses. ALL are for the public health and safety.
So I guess you really don’t have the right to make any choices you think are your Constitutional Rights, there are amendments, they are called Laws. All Sates have them, some States have more than others.

[jimjamuser]

I find it very uncomfortable to wear a mask for more than say a half hour but it is the right thing to do so we will always wear one when around others.
Good person-good empathy, you go dude.

[jimjamuser]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?
Of course they should just for politeness and being thankful that THEY lucked out. Some will not be THAT lucky and DIE. So, why make fun of them or make them feel uncomfortable around the "maskless wonder". It's a matter of EMPATHY and can you think of others and not only YOURSELF.

[jimjamuser]

Yes, they should. Why? Because you don't know WHO in that store is refusing a mask because they're immune and can't possibly be carriers.

The store management doesn't check medical records of the customers on their way in. We don't know, what we don't know.

If Joe Immune refuses to wear a mask, and Susie Asymptomatic sees him not wearing a mask, and sees that the store manager isn't enforcing it for Joe Immune, then there's no reason for Susie to feel that she should have to wear a mask. SHE Doesn't ask Joe why he isn't wearing one either. They're strangers.

There are thousands of people who REFUSE to wear a mask. Set the example. Be an adult.
Well spoken, Orange Person

[jimjamuser]

I like to think that in days gone by, people would have looked to the government to provide solid consistent guidance in what we should do in the pandemic.

At this point, I think that the advice would have been something like, "This is a new virus and the science is not clear about what to do and how to minimize the risk. Therefore, in the meantime, while we research and develop methods to control or stop the spread of the virus, here are the things we currently think should be done".

Instead, in today's political environment we are bombarded with misinformation - from BOTH sides - leaving everyone confused as to just what should and should not be done. One day a scientist is hailed as the voice of reason and sound guidance, then suddenly he is a liar and everything he said for the past 7 months is a lie. Seriously?

So, things like wearing a mask, become a political dog whistle, instead of an inexpensive thing that can be done easily by everyone to at least help - not cure, not solve, not make the virus go away. Just help. You know, Americans helping Americans. If we can do enough things to HELP maybe more of us will get through this alive.

But, not today, not with the hate and division. Just this week a person not wearing a mask in a Walmart was confronted and in response pulled a gun on the person telling them to put on a mask. Seriously, threaten to kill someone over wearing a mask?

I suggest everyone take a deep breath and maybe, just maybe stop calling the other side terrorists and traitors.

Maybe if every time you feel the urge to call someone a derogatory name, you substitute American - and see if that might just help tone down the vitriolic rhetoric? And let's give this "America Love it or Leave It" dog whistle a rest. This is America, we are Americans. One of the things that have ALWAYS made America great was that we could disagree with each other, but still be Americans first and Republican or Democrat, or Conservative or Liberal second.
Wonderful post! Great logic.

[Danz654]

Now you have to wear them to go is most stores. So I will wear it. I’m claustrophobic and for some reason feel very confined. don’t feel right breathing in my own exhaust.

[jimjamuser]

I've heard many reasons...one is they have asthma and it's harder to breathe with one on. Another is they have anxiety issues like PTSD that sets them off. I've seen some other reasons as well. As for masks---there is still speculation between experts that they even work. I think until it's conclusive "some" prefer not to. My question is..."they" tell us to wear masks AND social distance. IF the mask works then why social distance? If the mask works why can't family members be with dying family members or visit loved ones in care centers?
Really shaky logic. Holes everywhere. What a stretch!

[jimjamuser]

I may be sorry I put my 2 cents in here. I wore a mask for 38 years, it does not make me a “mask expert” but I do know just a little about them. To be the most effective you need a proper fit, around the nose and sides, sometimes tape is needed for a proper seal around the nose. It seems common knowledge masks do not protect the wearer because the virus is so much smaller than the fiber in a medical grade mask, but maybe not the N95 mask. Many say wear the mask to protect others. It is also common knowledge that to spread the virus you generally need have to have symptoms, coughing, congestion, fever and such. In todays world if you have symptoms you just need to stay home. However if you do have symptoms and cough the mask will catch the moisture and maybe stop some of the virus attached to the moisture, a good thing. But how much of the virus is just coughed out thru the mask fibers or an improper fit that is not attached to moisture? But yes it should stop some of the spread. However when I see people wearing masks in the store they are fiddling with them, so now the virus is on your hands. Next issue is when you get back in your car and take the mask off and place it in the console you have contaminated your hands again and the inside of your car. What if you just drove with the mask on and went home, as soon as you walk in the house off comes the mask and you generally put it on the counter. Again you contaminated your hands and your counter top. So yes, masks will stop some of the spread if you have symptoms and are around people but any good from the mask is un-done or even reversed in my opinion by not properly sealing the mask, fiddling with the mask, removing the mask and likely contaminating your hands and the inside of your car or home counter top. Many will reuse the contaminated mask. Just my thoughts, if you have symptoms stay home, wash you hands and keep them away from your face as we were advise early on. I do not wear a mask, unless the store requires one, I slip on a new mask as I enter making sure I have as good as seal as possible, it’s not that difficult. I try not to fiddle with it and remove it in such a way as not to contaminate my hands best I can, and throw the mask away. I have a small spray alcohol bottle in the car and spray my hand. If I had symptoms and had to use a mask I would do the same thing but dispose of the mask in a sealed plastic sandwich bag.
St. Pete Fl required masks and in 3 weeks they got their positivity rate down to 9.9 %. It is 16% Fl statewide. NYC is now at .9 % positive. CONCLUSION--------masks ARE effective to the point of eliminating this plague monster. Do YOUR part please!

[JimJohnson]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

I will criticize those without masks in public. It is a proven fact that when you wear a mask, you are being safe for others. Not wearing a mask is like saying you don’t care what happens to others. Shame on them.

[jimjamuser]

because the science does not prove anything about wearing cotton rags on your face -- and I will not wear one -- and that is that -- shop will be on-line
Wonder if that "shop" sells masks or just disinformation and a book on the flat earth society. And there is NO global warming. 2020 is just coincidentally the 1st or 2nd warmest year on record. And the Villiages has highs of 72 deg this week.

[Singerlady]

They (the experts) were presented with a virus that they knew very little about. I believe (not necessarily fact) that when they told us to not wear masks, or they were not necessary, that they were trying to save us from hoarding them instead needing them for the healthcare workers. I actually heard that on the news, but again, not sure if that was really the case. It’s a matter of common sense and respect.

[Singerlady]

Extra cautionary to double dip.....

[jimjamuser]

Wearing a mask does not make you a wimp, a liberal, or a frightened paranoid germaphobe. It does, however, show that you care about the health of your fellow human beings. If everyone wore a mask at all times in public, we could open up everything and go back to business as usual, though to a slightly lesser extent (such as wearing masks). But if millions of people refuse to wear them whatever reason, whether it’s political, personal comfort, or vanity this thing will never get better. If you feel a mask has a detrimental effect on your own health, don’t go out. If it’s uncomfortable, wear a face shield. But don’t put others at risk for your own sake. A mask is not to prevent you from catching the virus, but to prevent you from spreading it. Even if you tested negative yesterday, you could be positive today. A test does not make you immune. Instead of working together as a nation, we have chosen to make this a largely political issue, making it worse for all of us. Our elected officials (both parties) have all done their best to stoke the flames of division on this. Do you really believe the entire world cares so much about our elections that they are willing to go along with this so-called hoax? Come on people. Wake up to reality. We’re all Americans who love our country. Why can’t we work together on at least this one issue? At least can’t we give a try? That would make America great again.
Very persuasive post. I hope it penatrates some minds. Maybe a diamond tipped rock boring drill needed!

[jimjamuser]

Wearing a mask does not make you a wimp, a liberal, or a frightened paranoid germaphobe. It does, however, show that you care about the health of your fellow human beings. If everyone wore a mask at all times in public, we could open up everything and go back to business as usual, though to a slightly lesser extent (such as wearing masks). But if millions of people refuse to wear them whatever reason, whether it’s political, personal comfort, or vanity this thing will never get better. If you feel a mask has a detrimental effect on your own health, don’t go out. If it’s uncomfortable, wear a face shield. But don’t put others at risk for your own sake. A mask is not to prevent you from catching the virus, but to prevent you from spreading it. Even if you tested negative yesterday, you could be positive today. A test does not make you immune. Instead of working together as a nation, we have chosen to make this a largely political issue, making it worse for all of us. Our elected officials (both parties) have all done their best to stoke the flames of division on this. Do you really believe the entire world cares so much about our elections that they are willing to go along with this so-called hoax? Come on people. Wake up to reality. We’re all Americans who love our country. Why can’t we work together on at least this one issue? At least can’t we give a try? That would make America great again.
Yes, don't be a dope
without a mask
There is no hope

[jimjamuser]

From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊
Strange logic hanging from THAT logic tree?

[MJY10101]

I don't think there is one universal reason. Different strokes for different folks. Might have something to do with the mixed messages since this whole thing started. Don't wear a mask to masks will save your life. Which is it?
Go with the science instead of the politics!

[jimjamuser]

Also, you're told not to touch your face. I see people constantly picking up items on shelves that have been touched by others and then adjusting the mask as their glasses are fogging up or they are having difficulty breathing. Unless you have an N95 mask, these other disposable and designer cloth masks are pretty much useless. Plus, there are differing medical opinions about the masks. Fauci is a joke, changing his advice everytime the wind blows. Such a glory hound.
Fauci has been saving lives for 40 years in government. But, advice to NOT wear a mask has killed thousands of Americans. And why? To please Russia? To raise prices on PPEs and ventilators? And the DPA could have saved more lives. Please rethink.

[jimjamuser]

The people I talk to that don’t wear masks are not selfish in character nor is their decision not to wear one selfish. It’s really not appropriate to make a general statement like that about non mask wearers.
And those people need to take a sledge hammer to ALL speed bumps and rip out ALL seat belts. And NOT pay ANY taxes no more FOREVER!

[jimjamuser]

People need to stop being so judgmental. I can't wear a mask because of a panic disorder. If I feel like I can't breathe it will trigger a panic attack. If you see me without a mask it is not because I don't care about you or am being discourteous, it's because of a medical condition. If you feel your mask is protecting you then you should have no issue with me. I keep my distance from you and I wash my hands all the time. Don't talk to me to cause me to expel droplets. I am trying to live my life as safely as I can without spreading germs. Please show respect for others, who can't for medical reasons, wear a mask. (FYI- according to the ADA you can't ask people with medical conditions to prove it. It's illegal)
A face shield would help. Should be less panic. Or somehow get a Doctor to get you full Surgical PPEs with gown etc. and a breathing tank for your back. Otherwise stay home until vaccines are developed. Problem solved.

[Madelaine Amee]

Walmart yesterday. Only three old men not wearing face covering. One looked like he was on his last legs. One was a Mr. No Neck and strutted his stuff through the store almost as if he was daring someone to say something and one in a motorized invalid chair .................... No wonder more women outlive men.

It was busy with long lines for check out, so three idiots was not too bad.

[coffeebean]

.........My experience has been that younger people are the ones that don't wear a mask when they go into a grocery store or other buildings.

That is my experience too. The younger ones wear their bare face like a badge of honor and are so proud of the fact that they look invincible. To me, it just shows their ignorance of the fact that they can be spreading the virus and not even know it. These people seem to be ignorant of the fact that presymptomatic and asymptomatic transmission is a huge problem with this virus which is why the virus is spreading like wildfire. They seem to be ignorant to the fact that a cloth or surgical mask will block the droplets that contain the virus. Either these people are ignorant of these facts or they are just defiant. Take your pick. Either one is not a good look.

I would like to add that I do not believe any of the statistics that are "out there". I just don't. I've been reading about people that were not actually tested (they left before their test was actually performed) and they received their positive results a few days later. There is something seriously wrong with the test data reporting.

What I'm seeing is the health care professionals being stressed to their limits in hot spot cities. I'm seeing refrigerated trucks filling up with dead bodies. I don't ever recall hearing about all these trucks holding dead bodies during the worst flu season. It is getting scary out there and we need to do something and it needs to be done now.

Wear the mask and slow the spread. Keep your distance and don't touch your face when your hands are not freshly washed.

[queasy27]

I do not believe that the masks are only to protect others from yourself. When people have chemo and are immune compromised, they wear masks To protect themselves from others and their germs.

Thank you! That experience as a patient is why I never understood the original advice that only infected people needed to wear masks. What scientific principle states that mitigating the passage of droplets only works one way?

Sometimes surgical/medical staff wear masks to help protect patients from their possible germs and sometimes patients wear them to improve their own chances of not catching something. Both ways!

[coffeebean]

You know this is the age of the internet - and word processing is pretty easy to do. And people have Photoshop or similar programs. And that not all people who shop at these stores are unskilled seniors who don't know how easy it is to make up a fake letterhead of a non-existent doctor and scrawl some ink on the bottom as a pretend signature. They could even make a fake "medical exception card" and laminate it with clear packing tape, so they can re-use it without having to reprint it.

You can make a fake letter in 5-10 minutes, depending on how fast you type.
I'm sure you are right about this but......there must be SOMETHING that can be considered a legitimate letter. How about getting a notarized letter with a raised seal? That might be a possibility.

[coffeebean]

I may be sorry I put my 2 cents in here. I wore a mask for 38 years, it does not make me a “mask expert” but I do know just a little about them. To be the most effective you need a proper fit, around the nose and sides, sometimes tape is needed for a proper seal around the nose. It seems common knowledge masks do not protect the wearer because the virus is so much smaller than the fiber in a medical grade mask, but maybe not the N95 mask. Many say wear the mask to protect others. It is also common knowledge that to spread the virus you generally need have to have symptoms, coughing, congestion, fever and such. In todays world if you have symptoms you just need to stay home. However if you do have symptoms and cough the mask will catch the moisture and maybe stop some of the virus attached to the moisture, a good thing. But how much of the virus is just coughed out thru the mask fibers or an improper fit that is not attached to moisture? But yes it should stop some of the spread. However when I see people wearing masks in the store they are fiddling with them, so now the virus is on your hands. Next issue is when you get back in your car and take the mask off and place it in the console you have contaminated your hands again and the inside of your car. What if you just drove with the mask on and went home, as soon as you walk in the house off comes the mask and you generally put it on the counter. Again you contaminated your hands and your counter top. So yes, masks will stop some of the spread if you have symptoms and are around people but any good from the mask is un-done or even reversed in my opinion by not properly sealing the mask, fiddling with the mask, removing the mask and likely contaminating your hands and the inside of your car or home counter top. Many will reuse the contaminated mask. Just my thoughts, if you have symptoms stay home, wash you hands and keep them away from your face as we were advise early on. I do not wear a mask, unless the store requires one, I slip on a new mask as I enter making sure I have as good as seal as possible, it’s not that difficult. I try not to fiddle with it and remove it in such a way as not to contaminate my hands best I can, and throw the mask away. I have a small spray alcohol bottle in the car and spray my hand. If I had symptoms and had to use a mask I would do the same thing but dispose of the mask in a sealed plastic sandwich bag.
It has been stated many times by our experts (CDC, Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, etc.) that there most certainly is asymptomatic and presymptomatic transmission of this virus. That is the difficult part of the mitigation process.

As for "fiddling with the mask", it actually prevents a person from touching their mouth and nose when properly wearing the mask. Fiddle away, just don't touch your nose and mouth or your eyes.

When you get the virus on your hands, which is very very possible when out and about in the real world, just DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE, specifically your nose, eyes and mouth. Four months in to this pandemic, I would hope most adult minded people have trained themselves to not touch their face with their bare hands. You can use the collar or any part of your shirt to scratch an itch on your face. It really is that easy to do.

I gave up very early on worrying about contaminating the car interior and car door handles. The virus is out there......EVERYWHERE!!! Just don't touch your face with unwashed hands. It is THAT simple. Really.

When I'm in a public building, besides a mask, I always wear eyeglasses, whether regular glasses or sun glasses. That gives me a bit of protection from the virus getting in my eyes. They certainly aren't 100% but are better than not wearing anything shielding my eyes. Not sure I will ever get to the point when I will wear a face shield in public but nothing is written in stone at this point.

Stay safe out there.

[coffeebean]

because the science does not prove anything about wearing cotton rags on your face -- and I will not wear one -- and that is that -- shop will be on-line

What science have you been reading? You seem extremely uninformed. Google it. You will find MANY MANY articles and YouTube demonstrations how cloth masks absolutely do minimize the amount of droplet laden virus that is expelled when someone breathes, speaks, sings, yells, coughs and sneezes. There are even videos of black light demonstrations of how droplets and aerosols are blocked from getting into the atmosphere.

Google it. Educate yourself!!!

[asianthree]

Am with more than 100 people who are exposed to Covid, more than 12 hours a day.

Even with a 95, plus surgical mask, plus full face shield,
And two gowns 2 hats, boots and double glove, who are healthy get virus, recover, and go right back to the same.

Most do not feel they are heroes, that distinction is for those who serve and protect. We are just doing a job.

Does a mask make me feel safe ....NO

Watching those who Wear masks, but incorrectly makes me think they should have saved that mask for those who really need it.

[coffeebean]

If you believe that if everyone wares a mask, it will curb the virus in 8 weeks, I have a bridge to sell you in New York City

The key word being EVERYONE. Seriously, if everyone wore a mask in public for eight weeks, this virus would be waving a white flag desperately searching for hosts. No hosts???? Virus burns itself out. Buh bye Covid-19.

[coffeebean]

I know this video will not change many minds, but it reinforces the value of masks.

Sask Masks - Experiment results from a Mask vs. No Mask... (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=762968951107182)

EXCELLENT demonstration of how masks block droplets. I've seen this same demonstration done by an NBC correspondent with the same exact results.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I'm sure you are right about this but......there must be SOMETHING that can be considered a legitimate letter. How about getting a notarized letter with a raised seal? That might be a possibility.

Well sure, one person has that, and lets all her friends and family use it when THEY decide to go to a store that requires masks. Are you expecting all employees to check IDs now too, to make sure that the letter-holder really is the person whose name appears on the letter?

We're talking about stores here, with minimum-wage or low-wage employees who are hired to bag your groceries, stock shelves, and take your money at the checkout counter.

Now you want us to be the mask police and bouncers, on the same pay rate.

We're already pretty busy doing everything we can to ensure that you all stay healthy. How about - have everyone who enters the store without a mask, sign a document holding them personally financially responsible if ANYONE gets sick that day.

That would be worth my stopping what I'm doing to check your ID and your notarized statement from the doctor.

[jbrown132]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?
I think part of the reason is there is so much conflicting information out there. The latest information coming out is that masks are not that effective. Stopping the virus from going through the mask is like using a chain link fence to stop a flee. Their saying right now the most effective way to avoid getting the virus is constant hand washing.

[swooner]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?
They are arrogant, insensitive and uncaring jerks!

[fdpaq0580]

Am with more than 100 people who are exposed to Covid, more than 12 hours a day.

Even with a 95, plus surgical mask, plus full face shield,
And two gowns 2 hats, boots and double glove, who are healthy get virus, recover, and go right back to the same.

Most do not feel they are heroes, that distinction is for those who serve and protect. We are just doing a job.

Does a mask make me feel safe ....NO

Watching those who Wear masks, but incorrectly makes me think they should have saved that mask for those who really need it.

Not feeling like a hero doesn't mean you aren't one. Certainly all those who willingly put themselves in harms way to serve and protect others, like the military, police, fire personnel and others. But there are the ones who take on the less obvious tasks, like the doctors and nurses who deal with life and death situations every day, putting themselves in harms way while they deal as best they can with things like Covid and exposing themselves day after day in the hope of saving lives.
No, you don't have to be Rambo to be a hero. Courage isn't the lack of fear. Courage is doing what needs to be done in spite of the fear. You and your colleagues just might be herons and not know it.
Stay safe. Stay well. Look in the mirror and you just might see a hero looking back. Peace!

[billethkid]

How about wearing a mask is better than no mask.....

Everybody wearing a mask will have more effect on spreading than only half or less of us wearing a mask.

The argument always seems to go back to particle size and the nano bits that will get through.

Anti maskers want to measure to the 10th decimal place when all we need for improvement is to think in whole numbers.

It remains a mystery why so many want to ignore the facts that every little bit helps!!!

[JoeinFL]

From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊

I may be wrong since I’m not an epidemiologist. However, it’s my understanding asymptomatic people can in fact spread the virus. Just because they don’t have symptoms doesn’t mean they can’t spread it. I would suggest you do some more research and I will do the same. 😊
Stay safe.

[Byte1]

Interesting question. Another question or observation is:

I go shopping where I am distanced from others and constantly moving along, never near one person longer than passing them. I am wearing a mask. A mask that I really doubt does that good, but it gives one security like a kid's "blankie." On the other hand, we go to a restaurant and no one wears a mask and usually sits in one place for over an hour. I have no problem with either scenario, but it does bring up the question as to why some will cry if they see someone pass them in a store without a mask, and then leave the store and sit in a restaurant without a mask on. And please don't insult peoples intelligence by assuring everyone that you wear a mask in the restaurant.

Why do some wear them and some don't? Like others have suggested, some don't think it does any good. Some don't care and do not feel they will catch the virus, and some wear one thinking that they are wearing a biohazard suit and will be perfectly safe.
Wear one or don't wear one, I am not going to bother you either way.

[JoeinFL]

I think part of the reason is there is so much conflicting information out there. The latest information coming out is that masks are not that effective. Stopping the virus from going through the mask is like using a chain link fence to stop a flee. Their saying right now the most effective way to avoid getting the virus is constant hand washing.

Where did you get that information? From every actual expert I’ve listened to or read, state that masks will help.

[coffeebean]

From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊

My research claims asymptomatic and presymptomatic people most certainly do shed virus and can infect people. Here is just one article to support this.....
Can people spread the coronavirus if they don't have symptoms? 5 questions answered about asymptomatic COVID-19 (https://theconversation.com/can-people-spread-the-coronavirus-if-they-dont-have-symptoms-5-questions-answered-about-asymptomatic-covid-19-140531)

As for your concerns about mask wearing being dangerous, I have read many articles stating there is no danger to anyone who is healthy. Health care workers wear masks for hours on end and have had no ill effects to their respiratory status. If you are so concerned that mask wearing is detrimental to your health, wear a face shield.

[Cecilebug]

Well, here’s a conversation opener:
We closed for 2 months. Then we reopened in phases. Some states never really reopened. Over @ 40 days of protesting. Now, slowly closing phases or some states closing down again. Now, it’s 4-8 weeks of ... to “slow the spread”......
What happens if, CHINA , exposes people in their country and sends it out again and again?.... Are we just going to let our country be totally destroyed?

[GoodLife]

Where did you get that information? From every actual expert I’ve listened to or read, state that masks will help.

Lockdown and masks vs no lockdown and masks...actual results

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[coffeebean]

People need to stop being so judgmental. I can't wear a mask because of a panic disorder. If I feel like I can't breathe it will trigger a panic attack. If you see me without a mask it is not because I don't care about you or am being discourteous, it's because of a medical condition. If you feel your mask is protecting you then you should have no issue with me. I keep my distance from you and I wash my hands all the time. Don't talk to me to cause me to expel droplets. I am trying to live my life as safely as I can without spreading germs. Please show respect for others, who can't for medical reasons, wear a mask. (FYI- according to the ADA you can't ask people with medical conditions to prove it. It's illegal)

Would a face shield be an alternative to a mask for you?

[JoMar]

People that have medical reasons should not be required to wear masks, but then would think they would find alternatives to putting others at risks. Masks don't protect me, they protect you. A sudden need to cough or sneeze is mitigated with a mask....if you can't wear one then help us all and find alternatives. Ask a spouse, ask a friend, order online......or something else to help us all.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Marcyd View Post
From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it.

I'll say this as gently as I can. You are wrong. And posting such misinformation is bad for public health and disease prevention. Your research is not correct. You need to be reading more scientific and fewer political websites. If you are actually interested you may PM me and I will reply with several accurate up to date references.

Wearing a mask does not reduce your oxygen intake up to 60%. The wearer would drop like a rock in a matter of minutes. Surgeons and OR nurses would be unable to work. A simple google search would completely debunk your false beliefs about the danger of masks
Just google What is the effect of masks on oxygen and carbon dioxide (https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+effect+of+mask+on+oxygen+and+ carbon+dioxide&oq=what+is+the+effect+of+mask+on+oxygen+and+carbon +dioxide&aqs=chrome..69i57.12138j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) and read the hits.

You are free to "believe" what you want. Your beliefs are not science based and are only being pushed on right wing conspiracy theory websites and media. Fortunately you can take the opportunity to read the truth on other sources.

[coffeebean]

I think part of the reason is there is so much conflicting information out there. The latest information coming out is that masks are not that effective. Stopping the virus from going through the mask is like using a chain link fence to stop a flee. Their saying right now the most effective way to avoid getting the virus is constant hand washing.

If the "latest information" is that masks are not effective, why are more and more stores mandating them not to mention cities being mandating for people to wear masks? I would not trust your information. Can you provide a link please or is this information you received from a news source?

The virus is microscopic. That is so tiny, 10,000 of these viruses can fit on the head of a pin. Of course the virus can easily pass through fabric or paper masks. BUT.....the virus is contained in droplets and each droplet can contain thousands of these microscopic viruses. It is the droplets that are blocked by masks. So......think of the virus in a droplet as a basketball trying to get through a chain link fence. Understand now?

Constant hand washing is OK but not necessary, IMHO. Rather than scrubbing the skin off your hands or constantly drenching your hands in hand sanitizer, the more effective practice for you to do is......DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE. The reason for the "constant hand washing" is so you don't touch your possibly virus contaminated hands to your eyes, nose or mouth. When you don't touch your face, even if you have virus on your hands, you will not infect yourself with the virus.

[Topspinmo]

Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

I wear mask to protect me, if it protect you so be it. And in 8 weeks new travelers will start the spread again. Let’s face it , it will be very long time before we don’t have to wear masks? There not going to be vaccine anytime soon.

[Topspinmo]

People that have medical reasons should not be required to wear masks, but then would think they would find alternatives to putting others at risks. Masks don't protect me, they protect you. A sudden need to cough or sneeze is mitigated with a mask....if you can't wear one then help us all and find alternatives. Ask a spouse, ask a friend, order online......or something else to help us all.

If I had medical problem (more likely lung issue cause I can’t breath) I Da— sure would want to wear mask even it I had to put it over oxygen tube.

[coffeebean]

Interesting question. Another question or observation is:

I go shopping where I am distanced from others and constantly moving along, never near one person longer than passing them. I am wearing a mask. A mask that I really doubt does that good, but it gives one security like a kid's "blankie." On the other hand, we go to a restaurant and no wears a mask and usually sits in one place for over an hour. I have no problem with either scenario, but it does bring up the question as to why some will cry if they see someone pass them in a store without a mask, and then leave the store and sit in a restaurant without a mask on. And please don't insult peoples intelligence by assuring everyone that you wear a mask in the restaurant.

Why do some where them and some don't? Like others have suggested, some don't think it does any good. Some don't care and do not feel they will catch the virus, and some wear one thinking that they are wearing a biohazard suit and will be perfectly safe.
Wear one or don't wear one, I am not going to bother you either way.

Restaurants are one establishment where social distancing is guaranteed if the tables are spaced out properly. I will not give any restaurant my business unless they follow the CDC guidelines and that includes all their employees wear masks.

[coffeebean]

I wear mask to protect me, if it protect you so be it. And in 8 weeks new travelers will start the spread again. Let’s face it , it will be very long time before we don’t have to wear masks? There not going to be vaccine anytime soon.

Dr. Fauci stated he is cautiously optimistic there will be a vaccine by the end of 2020 or no later than the first quarter of 2021. That is very soon if you ask me.

[WayneChar]

Wearing a mask is such an easy thing to do to help this country get out of a MESS!

[ismatta]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

They are sheep, and easily manipulated. Clearly it’s in their own self interest to wear a mask to avoid contracting a virus that no one on earth has immunity to. You often hear these people repeating the lies they are fed, like it’s just like the flu. No, it’s not like the flu and it’s orders of magnitude more transmissible and deadly than the flu. They are confused, and have been gaslighted into believing the lies that have been used to others advantage. To save your own life, and perhaps that of your family members, it’s such a small inconvenience to deal with. The government insists you have to have a license to drive a car, you have to wear a seatbelt, you have to pay your taxes, we are a nation of rules. I don’t understand how people can, with a straight face, complain that their freedom and rights as an American citizen are being violated in a heinous way by being asked to wear a mask to save their own life, the lives of their family, our country and the economy. Really? Your so delicate that you can’t handle wearing a mask when you go shopping, or to a store? Seriously? My kids acted out the same way, of course they were 9 and 10 years old at the time. People, suck it up and do the right thing for the USA. Oh yes, stop whining.

[EdFNJ]

I really can't believe with what is currently going on in our country with this virus (especially here in FL) that we have this same "mask" discussion over and over. and over. WEAR THE F'IN MASK for heaven's sake. Geez, what's the matter with (some of) you people. I just don't get it. Suck it up and put on your grown up pants. Eventually the current increase in cases is going to find it's way up here and burst our bubble.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I really can't believe with what is currently going on in our country with this virus (especially here in FL) that we have this same "mask" discussion over and over. and over WEAR THE F'IN MASK for heaven's sake. Geez, what's the matter with (some of) you people. I just don't get it. Suck it up and put on your grown up pants. Eventually the current increase in cases is going to find it's way up here and burst our bubble.

Yup. My parent's town (also in Florida) just imposed a curfew after 100 people died in their county 2 days ago. I'm supposed to go there to visit them this week and I, the one person in the family who is always immune to EVERYTHING - am nervous about the visit.

[Altavia]

Another solution would be to negative pressure interior rooms and increase the fresh air exchange/purification rate within buildings. OSHA recommends 6 air changes per hour for hospital biohazard environments.

Effectively make inside air quality as close to outside air as possible.

[Topspinmo]

I like to think that in days gone by, people would have looked to the government to provide solid consistent guidance in what we should do in the pandemic.

At this point, I think that the advice would have been something like, "This is a new virus and the science is not clear about what to do and how to minimize the risk. Therefore, in the meantime, while we research and develop methods to control or stop the spread of the virus, here are the things we currently think should be done".

Instead, in today's political environment we are bombarded with misinformation - from BOTH sides - leaving everyone confused as to just what should and should not be done. One day a scientist is hailed as the voice of reason and sound guidance, then suddenly he is a liar and everything he said for the past 7 months is a lie. Seriously?

So, things like wearing a mask, become a political dog whistle, instead of an inexpensive thing that can be done easily by everyone to at least help - not cure, not solve, not make the virus go away. Just help. You know, Americans helping Americans. If we can do enough things to HELP maybe more of us will get through this alive.

But, not today, not with the hate and division. Just this week a person not wearing a mask in a Walmart was confronted and in response pulled a gun on the person telling them to put on a mask. Seriously, threaten to kill someone over wearing a mask?

I suggest everyone take a deep breath and maybe, just maybe stop calling the other side terrorists and traitors.

Maybe if every time you feel the urge to call someone a derogatory name, you substitute American - and see if that might just help tone down the vitriolic rhetoric? And let's give this "America Love it or Leave It" dog whistle a rest. This is America, we are Americans. One of the things that have ALWAYS made America great was that we could disagree with each other, but still be Americans first and Republican or Democrat, or Conservative or Liberal second.

The government can’t protect you, you have to do it. Federal government late place I’d look for guidance regardless which party in charge.

[Topspinmo]

Fauci has been saving lives for 40 years in government. But, advice to NOT wear a mask has killed thousands of Americans. And why? To please Russia? To raise prices on PPEs and ventilators? And the DPA could have saved more lives. Please rethink.

Wow, just WOW!

[Topspinmo]

Dr. Fauci stated he is cautiously optimistic there will be a vaccine by the end of 2020 or no later than the first quarter of 2021. That is very soon if you ask me.


It’s feel good guess! Many others have said not going to happen that quick.

[ffresh]

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Fred

[JimJohnson]

If someone is asymptomatic and goes out in public without a mask, they are more likely to cause suffering or death than a drunk that drives his car or golf cart to the grocery to pick up a case of beer. To deny simple added protection to others By wearing a mask is showing respect. Not to wear one is incredibly selfish. :pray:

[maggie1]

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

So, I gather by your post that you will run the risk of coming in contact with the virus, and either escape unharmed, or recover from it, instead of becoming one of the nearly 200K that have ended up in a body bag. Faulty logic! You can go ahead and believe your six "in the know" doctors who say it is highly unlikely that you can catch the virus a second time, but when I hear other docs say that you can catch it, or they don't know if it can be caught again, I say. why run the risk? Wear a freaking mask, and make us all feel a little bit better that you appear to be taking this pandemic to be a serious threat.

[Heyitsrick]

For all the banter here about masks, are there really significant numbers of people in TV who are not masking?

Here's the Johns Hopkins Sumter County COVID-19 Stat Map:

Sumter County COVID-19 Statistics (https://bao.arcgis.com/covid-19/jhu/county/12119.html)

Population: 121,000

Total confirmed COVID cases: 757

COVID-attributed deaths: 19

Population age 65+: 67,271

Population UP TO age 34: 19,384

Fatality rate per population: ~.6%

Fatality rate per confirmed cases: 2.51%

I read an anecdotal report from someone here in this thread who stated that in their observation - as a grocery store worker - teenagers and 20ish people are more vigilant about wearing masks, and if there are those who are not wearing them, they are most likely to be seniors.

I found this quite curious - given that seniors make up the overwhelming percentage of the population around TV, why wouldn't it follow that one might see more seniors without masks than young people? That's a given, based on numbers alone.

I wear masks, period. But as to "why" some might push back - notwithstanding whether it's smart or responsible - you might want to look at political decisions that mandated all manner of restrictions due to COVID-19, but somehow gave a pass to thousands upon thousands of protest marchers around the country. That civil right, as we were told, was too important to ignore. It was more important than people's actual lives.

[Byte1]

Restaurants are one establishment where social distancing is guaranteed if the tables are spaced out properly. I will not give any restaurant my business unless they follow the CDC guidelines and that includes all their employees wear masks.

How does "social distancing" keep you from inhaling the virus in a closed area? If that's the case, then social distancing in a grocery store would work even better than sitting in one place such as a restaurant. Funny how there is always some "explanation" to fit the scenario, for whatever suits those that wish to debate. So called "specialists" are saying that being outside is "safer" and a mask is not necessary (if social distancing). Being in Walmart, you are in a large area and should be safer than if you are in a small restaurant. I am asking this because it is interesting to hear the "experts" on here with their explanation that suits their agenda/demands.

I am amused because even though I wear a mask when shopping, I have not worn a mask at a restaurant since they reopened, and I eat out at least once a week.

By the way, I have a relative that is in ICU wearing a respirator fighting for his life, virus infected. He ALWAYS wore a mask and has not been around anyone that has tested positive, other than when he visited a relative in the hospital that tested negative. The patient was not in the hospital for virus related illness. The only way this relative could have contracted the virus is by visiting in the hospital, if wearing a mask kept him safe before the visit. He was not around any crowds and shopped curbside, and had no visitors to his home and did not visit anyone else except family that all tested negative after he was infected.

[Pommom91]

In my opinion, they don’t care if they spread their germs.

[aallbrand]

Not wearing a mask is worst then driving drunk. When you hurt or kill some one driving drunk you are held accountable by society and your own guilt. No one argues that driving drunk is a constitutional privilege because science has proven that driving drunk kills people. When you don't wear a mask you will eventually injury and kill many, science has proven this fact.

[ffresh]

For all the banter here about masks, are there really significant numbers of people in TV who are not masking?

...

I read an anecdotal report from someone here in this thread who stated that in their observation - as a grocery store worker - teenagers and 20ish people are more vigilant about wearing masks, and if there are those who are not wearing them, they are most likely to be seniors.

I found this quite curious - given that seniors make up the overwhelming percentage of the population around TV, why wouldn't it follow that one might see more seniors without masks than young people? That's a given, based on numbers alone.

I wear masks, period. But as to "why" some might push back - notwithstanding whether it's smart or responsible - you might want to look at political decisions that mandated all manner of restrictions due to COVID-19, but somehow gave a pass to thousands upon thousands of protest marchers around the country. That civil right, as we were told, was too important to ignore. It was more important than people's actual lives.

I believe part of the answer also lies with the fact that the current generation of millennials, generation Z, and generation alpha, have had "critical thinking" bred out of them by the indoctrination mills, i.e. public schools and, thus, follow blindly any edicts issued (for better or for worse). Our generation still maintains some semblance of that ability, able to view events with a critical eye, make an informed decision and act accordingly, despite how others think he or she should be acting :icon_wink:

Fred

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I read an anecdotal report from someone here in this thread who stated that in their observation - as a grocery store worker - teenagers and 20ish people are more vigilant about wearing masks, and if there are those who are not wearing them, they are most likely to be seniors.

I found this quite curious - given that seniors make up the overwhelming percentage of the population around TV, why wouldn't it follow that one might see more seniors without masks than young people? That's a given, based on numbers alone.

Once again - read what I write, and not what you think I meant. I'm very careful with my words most of the time.

I am referring SPECIFICALLY to my observations about customers in grocery stores. I'm not referring to anything else. My post was in direct response to someone who was ALSO specifically referring to HIS observations about customers in grocery stores.

Grocery stores, as many people may have forgotten in their old age, are open to the public. They are, as many seem to have eliminated from their diminished memories, in areas that have people OTHER than seniors living in them. The Villages are merely the three corners of three fairly sizeable counties, with major state roads slicing through it. People living near the villages also go grocery shopping. Many of those people have kids. Many of those people ARE kids. And those kids sometimes pop into the grocery store. MOST of those kids wear masks. There might be only 10 kids who show up on their own, without their parents, during my shift. But on MOST days - all 10 will be wearing a mask.

Compare to families who come in with adult parents and youths as their kids - there are maybe 30 of those who come in on a daily basis. And of those 30 families - with a minimum of 3 people shopping (so 90 people) only around 70 of them will be wearing masks.

Compare to the hundreds of Seniors I see every day - out of - let's call it 500 individual senior customers who aren't coming in with their spouse or kids or caretakers - only maybe 400 of them are wearing masks.

You can do the math. But it won't be accurate because these are estimates based on one person's observations.

But I'd venture to say, with an EDUCATED guess from someone who actually works there and is able to see the trends at least 2 days a week, on average 3 days every week, both weekends and weekdays, any time between 8am and 6pm...

That the majority of "teenagers and young 20-somethings who come into the store without their families, and are customers", on most days, I will notice nearly 100% of the time they are wearing masks.

And that while the majority of seniors also wear masks, the percentage of them is significantly lower. Maybe only 85-90%.

Of the entire population, the majority people who come in that include parents with their young kids - they are the most disturbing of the bunch. Because the ones who don't wear the masks, are teaching their kids that they don't need to care about anyone else. And those kids will grow up believing it.

[wilkinson]

As an engineer I supported the sanitizing processes at the world's largest biotech company for 10 years. So I claim some first hand understanding of the science. There should be a national mandatory order to wear masks in public. Failure to comply should be punished. Regardless of what some uninformed people say in the news feeds, wearing masks will improve your chances and the risk the risk of those you. Not to wear a mask is lazy and socially irresponsible.

[Ss6247]

That woman you shamed in the grocery store, because she wasn't wearing a mask? She already feels enough shame because she was raped. Having something over her nose & mouth triggers her PTSD, and causes her to relive that trauma.
That man at the Quickee Mart who you called selfish? He's a volunteer firefighter, and just came from the ER, after being treated for smoke inhalation. He removed his air mask, in order to help a child breathe fresh air, instead of thick smoke.
That elderly lady who you screamed at to put a mask on, or shop when it's her turn? Her husband of 60 years just passed away. She's doing her best to learn to live alone. Every breath is physically painful, due to her grief.
That little boy you lectured about removing his mask? He's autistic. He doesn't understand. He simply wants it off of his face.
That little girl who screams when somebody tries to mask her? She's claustrophobic. She came from an abusive home, where she was confined to a closet.
There are all sorts of reasons for not wearing a mask. Not all are lung, or immune system related.
How many of you are among those shaming, name calling, and berating complete strangers, or worse, family members? How many of you are against bullying?
If you are among the first group, and align with the second, you may want to pump the brakes, and check yourself... you have become the bully you claim to be against.
Wearing a mask does not make you a kind person. You are either a kind person, or you aren't. A piece of cloth does not determine that trait.
On the flipside, not wearing a mask does not make a person selfish, or inconsiderate. It simply means that, there may be an unseen reason why they cannot wear one. You don't know their story, and, to be quite honest, it's none of your business.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

[all those people who are special exceptions, some of whom should be home recovering from smoke inhalation and not out at a supermarket]

The person sneezed on by one of the people in your example passing the wrong way down a one-way aisle because of his PTSD that kept him from paying attention or wearing a mask? That person is now dead.

The person coughed on by that smoke-inhalation fireman who should be home recovering and not at a supermarket? He passed the virus he caught only two days ago, the day after he was tested, to an older woman who is now dead.

It is ABSOLUTELY everyone else's business to know why someone isn't wearing a mask in a public place during a pandemic. It is our business, because it is our lives that your breath is threatening.

If you can't wear a mask, don't. And send someone to do your shopping for you. Or order it online.

[Curtisbwp]

The reason may be reasonable. The wearing of masks may be detrimental to their health. If you read the ADA (American Disability Act) you will find a list of disabilities that are exempt from wearing masks because it is harmful to their health. Wallmart has implemented a policy about mask wearing. I will bet that NONE of the enforcing employees have not been fully trained. Walmart has severly restricted the entrance and exit doors including blocking them with carrages. I would like to have the NEW evacuation routs in case of emergency. Fire, hostile forces in the store etc.

[Heyitsrick]

Once again - read what I write, and not what you think I meant. I'm very careful with my words most of the time.

This is what you wrote:

The ones who make sure we all know they're refusing to wear them - are mostly seniors. The ones who seem to be oblivious are mostly the grown up adults. Strangely enough, the young adults - the teenagers and young 20-somethings - tend to be more vigilant than any other demographic. They are almost always covering their mouths and noses with a mask in the stores.

You mentioned no percentages or raw numbers. You simply said that in the sub-set of people who are making it clear they are refusing to wear masks, it's "mostly seniors". You're saying that out of the total undefined number of those who fit this description of intentionally not wearing masks and wanting everyone to know, seniors make up the bigger slice of the pie.

I'm merely saying - and quite accurately - that seniors as a demographic are by far the largest group in the area, and it stands to reason that you're going to see more of them engaged in this behavior than smaller groups based on pure demographic percentages.




I am referring SPECIFICALLY to my observations about customers in grocery stores. I'm not referring to anything else. My post was in direct response to someone who was ALSO specifically referring to HIS observations about customers in grocery stores.

Grocery stores, as many people may have forgotten in their old age, are open to the public. They are, as many seem to have eliminated from their diminished memories, in areas that have people OTHER than seniors living in them.
The Villages are merely the three corners of three fairly sizeable counties, with major state roads slicing through it.


Area demographics, as some people may have forgotten in their old age, are what they are. And honestly - most people will do grocery shopping fairly close to where they live.

This is from the USDA: "The average household traveled 3.79 miles to their primary grocery, even though the closest store was 2.14 miles way. This was true, with little variation, across all income groups. USDA says this indicates shoppers are sensitive to price, quality, and selection in addition to proximity."

People living near the villages also go grocery shopping. Many of those people have kids. Many of those people ARE kids. And those kids sometimes pop into the grocery store. MOST of those kids wear masks. There might be only 10 kids who show up on their own, without their parents, during my shift. But on MOST days - all 10 will be wearing a mask.

Compare to families who come in with adult parents and youths as their kids - there are maybe 30 of those who come in on a daily basis. And of those 30 families - with a minimum of 3 people shopping (so 90 people) only around 70 of them will be wearing masks.

Compare to the hundreds of Seniors I see every day - out of - let's call it 500 individual senior customers who aren't coming in with their spouse or kids or caretakers - only maybe 400 of them are wearing masks. You can do the math.

Yes, I can do the math. Your own observations are making my point about demographics. Anecdotally, you're saying senior shoppers are by far the predominant demographic in the store. And that goes back to my point about numbers - since seniors do make up the greatest share of the area population, it makes sense that you are going to see more of them engaging in this behavior.

I'm not saying that the younger patrons you're observing aren't indicative of that demographic's behavior in other local stores, but it's really a very small number you're citing. One wonders what you would see if 500 of this age group shopped in your store on a given day.

[ffresh]

It'll be interesting to see how many people will lie about "medical reasons" to all the stores that have recently implemented a REQUIREMENT that all customers wear masks in their stores. Medical reasons and "very young children" are the only exceptions to the rule, and as far as I know, there doesn't exist any way for a store to tell if a person is telling the truth or not when they say "I don't have to wear a mask, my doctor says so."

My guess would be about the same number who bring their "service animals" into public places that don't really require a service animal and the same number who fraudulently obtain handicapped medallions and can walk better than I. :icon_wink:

Fred

[ffresh]

Anyone who claims they have a medical reason for not wearing a mask, can just stay home. OR.........To gain entry, a person should have to produce a letter from a physician on the physician's letter head that they have a medical condition and are not able to wear a mask.

May I have your papers please?

Is that the sort of society you want to be a part of because others make choices that aren't in accord with your own :ohdear:

As William Wallace so eloquently put it on his death bed: Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooommmmmmmmmmmmm!

Others may obediently put your masks on, OR stay home if you're immunologically challenged, or merely AFRAID.


Fred

[JoMar]

That woman you shamed in the grocery store, because she wasn't wearing a mask? She already feels enough shame because she was raped. Having something over her nose & mouth triggers her PTSD, and causes her to relive that trauma.
That man at the Quickee Mart who you called selfish? He's a volunteer firefighter, and just came from the ER, after being treated for smoke inhalation. He removed his air mask, in order to help a child breathe fresh air, instead of thick smoke.
That elderly lady who you screamed at to put a mask on, or shop when it's her turn? Her husband of 60 years just passed away. She's doing her best to learn to live alone. Every breath is physically painful, due to her grief.
That little boy you lectured about removing his mask? He's autistic. He doesn't understand. He simply wants it off of his face.
That little girl who screams when somebody tries to mask her? She's claustrophobic. She came from an abusive home, where she was confined to a closet.
There are all sorts of reasons for not wearing a mask. Not all are lung, or immune system related.
How many of you are among those shaming, name calling, and berating complete strangers, or worse, family members? How many of you are against bullying?
If you are among the first group, and align with the second, you may want to pump the brakes, and check yourself... you have become the bully you claim to be against.
Wearing a mask does not make you a kind person. You are either a kind person, or you aren't. A piece of cloth does not determine that trait.
On the flipside, not wearing a mask does not make a person selfish, or inconsiderate. It simply means that, there may be an unseen reason why they cannot wear one. You don't know their story, and, to be quite honest, it's none of your business.

There are options for all of your examples.......they don't need to be where wearing a mask creates those reactions. If they know they are going to react to wearing a mask find an alternative like a friend, family member, store shopping etc. So knowing that not wearing a mask has some danger associated to it and you refuse to find alternatives to what gives you anxiety and puts others at risk is, to me, selfish.

[RJ Metzelaar]

It's the leas you can do to protectfellow Amdricans.!!

[ruralgoddess]

I don't think there is one universal reason. Different strokes for different folks. Might have something to do with the mixed messages since this whole thing started. Don't wear a mask to masks will save your life. Which is it?


I defer to wearing a mask until it's proven that they're useless...I wear one to protect others from infection I might be carrying, not for myself. I depend on others wearing their masks to protect me from infection they could be carrying.

[Byte1]

Wow! Mass panic, mass hysteria!
For crying out loud, wear a mask if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. If you don't wear a mask, I don't care. No one wears one because someone might pass on TB to them or the Flu during flu season. The Japanese do, but hey that's another country. Mandate mask wearing? OK, so who is going to inspect your mask to make sure it is certified? How will they determine if you have kept it clean? I find it ironic that some folks think that holding a scarf up to their face or a hanky is doing the same job as a mask. Then again, one of my masks is so thin I have no problem at all breathing through it. I even chuckle sometimes when I think about all those "sky is falling" folks that think that wearing a mask is going to save their lives. I enjoy seeing folks out and about playing golf and pickleball, jogging or bike riding with no masks, just enjoying their lives without worrying about this thing. Hah, as long as I wear something over my face, no one will criticize one bit. Sure, even that probably stops 10% of the germs. I am supposed to care if you think that others are suppose to protect you? Take care of yourself. If you do not like it when someone does not wear a mask, then don't go out to places that might expose you to them. It is their right to not wear one just as it is your right to wear one if you wish. I hear hypocrites all the time say that they are wearing a mask to protect me. Right, sure, uh huh. They are worried about themselves and that is why they want everyone else to wear a mask too. Can't wait to see what will happen if the gov mandates masks. What kind of masks and how will they be policed? Motorcycle helmets have DOT stickers on certified ones so that police in regulated states can identify those that are wearing legal helmets. Does the police stop anyone that does not have a sticker on them? They have better things to do. Of course, maybe we can get social services to do traffic stops now. That's what some folks in Congress want.
Stop worrying about what others are doing when you can avoid them by just staying away from them. If you do not like it that folks are practicing their RIGHT not to wear a mask, then express your right of Freedom by walking away from them. They have the same right you have, to wear or not wear a mask. I wear one that is hardly any protection at all, but I don't have to hear hysterical people cry about their safety. I did wear a professional mask when this first started, as well as gloves and eye protection. That was before I realized that the chances of me being around anyone infected was so slim, and even more slim to die from it if I did catch it. I social distance and take other precautions to avoid bringing home any infection to my spouse. I figure that if others are worried about becoming infected, it is not my responsibility to protect them when it is their option to stay home.
Sorry if your "mask shaming" doesn't work on me. I promise that I won't insist that you carry a gun to protect me from being mugged (which is more likely than catching the virus) if you don't insist that I wear a mask to protect you. I promise that if I become infected, I will wear a mask (a better one than I am wearing now).
This is just a discussion, so don't take it personal. It's better to keep your blood pressure down so that you do not end up in a hospital where you have a greater chance of being exposed to the virus.
By the way, if social distancing is OK for restaurants so that folks do not have to wear a mask, then why are you concerned about those that do not wish to wear a mask in a grocery store? They social distance and you do not have to walk up to them, breaking that personal safety area. If you are that worried about others not wearing a mask, then tell folks to maintain their distance from you. See, easy peasie.

[coffeebean]

How does "social distancing" keep you from inhaling the virus in a closed area? If that's the case, then social distancing in a grocery store would work even better than sitting in one place such as a restaurant. Funny how there is always some "explanation" to fit the scenario, for whatever suits those that wish to debate. So called "specialists" are saying that being outside is "safer" and a mask is not necessary (if social distancing). Being in Walmart, you are in a large area and should be safer than if you are in a small restaurant. I am asking this because it is interesting to hear the "experts" on here with their explanation that suits their agenda/demands.

I am amused because even though I wear a mask when shopping, I have not worn a mask at a restaurant since they reopened, and I eat out at least once a week.

By the way, I have a relative that is in ICU wearing a respirator fighting for his life, virus infected. He ALWAYS wore a mask and has not been around anyone that has tested positive, other than when he visited a relative in the hospital that tested negative. The patient was not in the hospital for virus related illness. The only way this relative could have contracted the virus is by visiting in the hospital, if wearing a mask kept him safe before the visit. He was not around any crowds and shopped curbside, and had no visitors to his home and did not visit anyone else except family that all tested negative after he was infected.

I've seen video of how the virus drops off within 6 feet and becomes a non issue when someone is infected with the virus. The "experts" tell us that a six foot distance is what is necessary to be safer than any closer because the virus does just not project that far. I believe this science or I would not dine in restaurants. The restaurants that make me feel safer are the ones which have raised dividers between their booths. The added protection makes me feel safer.

So sorry to hear about your relative. I guess nothing is 100% as far as being protected in this pandemic and I wouldn't expect that. I just refuse to hold up in my home forever and not get out there and enjoy life. I always wear masks indoors and hope that as more and more people will do that, we all will be safer to live our lives in this new normal of ours.

I'm respectful when dining in a restaurant. I wear my mask as I enter and move about in the restaurant. I wear a mask while ordering. The mask comes off when my drink is served and remains off until I get up to leave the restaurant. Hubby does these same practices.

[coffeebean]

That woman you shamed in the grocery store, because she wasn't wearing a mask? She already feels enough shame because she was raped. Having something over her nose & mouth triggers her PTSD, and causes her to relive that trauma.
That man at the Quickee Mart who you called selfish? He's a volunteer firefighter, and just came from the ER, after being treated for smoke inhalation. He removed his air mask, in order to help a child breathe fresh air, instead of thick smoke.
That elderly lady who you screamed at to put a mask on, or shop when it's her turn? Her husband of 60 years just passed away. She's doing her best to learn to live alone. Every breath is physically painful, due to her grief.
That little boy you lectured about removing his mask? He's autistic. He doesn't understand. He simply wants it off of his face.
That little girl who screams when somebody tries to mask her? She's claustrophobic. She came from an abusive home, where she was confined to a closet.
There are all sorts of reasons for not wearing a mask. Not all are lung, or immune system related.
How many of you are among those shaming, name calling, and berating complete strangers, or worse, family members? How many of you are against bullying?
If you are among the first group, and align with the second, you may want to pump the brakes, and check yourself... you have become the bully you claim to be against.
Wearing a mask does not make you a kind person. You are either a kind person, or you aren't. A piece of cloth does not determine that trait.
On the flipside, not wearing a mask does not make a person selfish, or inconsiderate. It simply means that, there may be an unseen reason why they cannot wear one. You don't know their story, and, to be quite honest, it's none of your business.

I get what you are saying. In 100% of your scenarios, a face shield would be the alternative to wearing a mask maybe with the exception of the autistic child who does not understand the need.

Also......in any one of your scenarios, every one of those people could just stay home.

[coffeebean]

The reason may be reasonable. The wearing of masks may be detrimental to their health. If you read the ADA (American Disability Act) you will find a list of disabilities that are exempt from wearing masks because it is harmful to their health. Wallmart has implemented a policy about mask wearing. I will bet that NONE of the enforcing employees have not been fully trained. Walmart has severly restricted the entrance and exit doors including blocking them with carrages. I would like to have the NEW evacuation routs in case of emergency. Fire, hostile forces in the store etc.
Walmart has one set of doors locked from the outside so patrons can not enter. I would hope exiting all doors is still available in case of fire.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Walmart has one set of doors locked from the outside so patrons can not enter. I would hope exiting all doors is still available in case of fire.

All doors that I've seen in Walmart can be used as an exit. No idea about the ones in the storage rooms but all the visible doors can be exited.

[coffeebean]

This is what you wrote:



You mentioned no percentages or raw numbers. You simply said that in the sub-set of people who are making it clear they are refusing to wear masks, it's "mostly seniors". You're saying that out of the total undefined number of those who fit this description of intentionally not wearing masks and wanting everyone to know, seniors make up the bigger slice of the pie.

I'm merely saying - and quite accurately - that seniors as a demographic are by far the largest group in the area, and it stands to reason that you're going to see more of them engaged in this behavior than smaller groups based on pure demographic percentages.




Area demographics, as some people may have forgotten in their old age, are what they are. And honestly - most people will do grocery shopping fairly close to where they live.

This is from the USDA: "The average household traveled 3.79 miles to their primary grocery, even though the closest store was 2.14 miles way. This was true, with little variation, across all income groups. USDA says this indicates shoppers are sensitive to price, quality, and selection in addition to proximity."



Yes, I can do the math. Your own observations are making my point about demographics. Anecdotally, you're saying senior shoppers are by far the predominant demographic in the store. And that goes back to my point about numbers - since seniors do make up the greatest share of the area population, it makes sense that you are going to see more of them engaging in this behavior.

I'm not saying that the younger patrons you're observing aren't indicative of that demographic's behavior in other local stores, but it's really a very small number you're citing. One wonders what you would see if 500 of this age group shopped in your store on a given day.

EXCELLENT point. These young whipper snappers are the "mindful" ones who are going to "Covid parties" to see who can catch the virus first. Is this really the generation of our future? Scary stuff.

[coffeebean]

May I have your papers please?

Is that the sort of society you want to be a part of because others make choices that aren't in accord with your own :ohdear:

As William Wallace so eloquently put it on his death bed: Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedoooooommmmmmmmmmmmm!

Others may obediently put your masks on, OR stay home if you're immunologically challenged, or merely AFRAID.


Fred

May I see your Passport please?
May I see your insurance card please?
May I see your picture ID please?

[ldivens]

It is wear a mask OR physical distancing NOT both. People who are wearing a mask must not have confidence in the mask if they are afraid of people who not wearing one. If you are afraid then you move away, you can only change your behavior not everyone around you

[ffresh]

Wow! Mass panic, mass hysteria! ...

OR … is it Mask panic, Mask hysteria?


As to the rest of your post: VERY WELL stated - I concur!

Fred

[Edcarney]

Because it has been a proven fact that wearing a mask does little or no good unless they are properly rated, fitted and worn properly. I have seen very few (if any) who have fitted mask with that are worn and rated properly. If you are going to do something do it properly or don’t do it at all.

[rmd2]

There should be a T-Shirt that says, "I BEAT Covid-19. I can NOT infect you"

I would trust that about as much as I do the service animal vests on dogs.

[rmd2]

Anyone who claims they have a medical reason for not wearing a mask, can just stay home. OR.........To gain entry, a person should have to produce a letter from a physician on the physician's letter head that they have a medical condition and are not able to wear a mask.

This person could have everything delivered. Problem solved.

[rmd2]

Now you have to wear them to go is most stores. So I will wear it. I’m claustrophobic and for some reason feel very confined. don’t feel right breathing in my own exhaust.

You could try a face shield. It would be easier to breathe.

[rmd2]

How does "social distancing" keep you from inhaling the virus in a closed area? If that's the case, then social distancing in a grocery store would work even better than sitting in one place such as a restaurant. Funny how there is always some "explanation" to fit the scenario, for whatever suits those that wish to debate. So called "specialists" are saying that being outside is "safer" and a mask is not necessary (if social distancing). Being in Walmart, you are in a large area and should be safer than if you are in a small restaurant. I am asking this because it is interesting to hear the "experts" on here with their explanation that suits their agenda/demands.

I am amused because even though I wear a mask when shopping, I have not worn a mask at a restaurant since they reopened, and I eat out at least once a week.

By the way, I have a relative that is in ICU wearing a respirator fighting for his life, virus infected. He ALWAYS wore a mask and has not been around anyone that has tested positive, other than when he visited a relative in the hospital that tested negative. The patient was not in the hospital for virus related illness. The only way this relative could have contracted the virus is by visiting in the hospital, if wearing a mask kept him safe before the visit. He was not around any crowds and shopped curbside, and had no visitors to his home and did not visit anyone else except family that all tested negative after he was infected.

Just an aside -- I would not be visiting anyone in a hospital these days.

[OhioBuckeye]

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?
Personally I call it Stupid! It's up to them what they want to do but I'm playing it safe & not going to breath their fumes. Don't know if this virus is a hype or what but I'm not taking any chances. Do what you want!

[Byte1]

I'll say this as gently as I can. You are wrong. And posting such misinformation is bad for public health and disease prevention. Your research is not correct. You need to be reading more scientific and fewer political websites. If you are actually interested you may PM me and I will reply with several accurate up to date references.

Wearing a mask does not reduce your oxygen intake up to 60%. The wearer would drop like a rock in a matter of minutes. Surgeons and OR nurses would be unable to work. A simple google search would completely debunk your false beliefs about the danger of masks
Just google What is the effect of masks on oxygen and carbon dioxide (https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+effect+of+mask+on+oxygen+and+ carbon+dioxide&oq=what+is+the+effect+of+mask+on+oxygen+and+carbon +dioxide&aqs=chrome..69i57.12138j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) and read the hits.

You are free to "believe" what you want. Your beliefs are not science based and are only being pushed on right wing conspiracy theory websites and media. Fortunately you can take the opportunity to read the truth on other sources.

Your poster omits one last segment. The guy that is peeing with the pants on, and there should be a person without pants on. And it should show that the person without pants on would not get peed on. You wear the mask so that I do not get "peed on" or in this case, I don't get the virus because you are wearing a mask WITH Covid. Thank you. If you wear the mask then I don't have to. TO think that I have been wearing a mask for no reason.

[coffeebean]

It is wear a mask OR physical distancing NOT both. People who are wearing a mask must not have confidence in the mask if they are afraid of people who not wearing one. If you are afraid then you move away, you can only change your behavior not everyone around you

We have been told to wear masks AND physical distance. We must do BOTH. That is what I have heard and read time and time again by our experts.

[blueash]

Because it has been a proven fact that wearing a mask does little or no good unless they are properly rated, fitted and worn properly. I have seen very few (if any) who have fitted mask with that are worn and rated properly. If you are going to do something do it properly or don’t do it at all.

I do love a good declarative statement. I like to see some link or reference for your "proven fact" because you are wrong in assuming that studies relating to the risk of spreading an infection are the same as studies on the risk of acquiring an infection.

N95 masks are meant to protect a well person from an aerosolized or droplet infection begin spread to them from a contagious person. They are required to stop 95% of the infectious particles. You are completely misunderstanding the different purpose for masks being worn now by everyone in public spaces.

[blueash]

The American Disability Act does not give anyone permission to not wear facial barriers. It does not matter if you have some anxiety disorder that makes you feel if you wear a mask you will suffocate. The ADA requires reasonable accommodations. It does not require that the needs of society completely bend to someone's disability. So if you can't wear a mask then you must wear a face scarf or a face shield or a motorcycle helmet with the shield down. You have no right under the ADA to present a risk to the general public. (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-warns-inaccurate-flyers-and-postings-regarding-use-face-masks-and)

If you have the disability of alcoholism, that does not give you permission to drive.

There have also been posts stating that no one can ask a person about a disability. That is also not true. Businesses have specific language they are required to use. The general public is under no such restraint and any person can ask you anything. This may certainly be rude but it is not an ADA issue.

[JerseyShore]

I'm not a fan of the mask however I wear one in public out of respect! It's not because I think they are not effective, some reports state they are, some say not. They make me hot and it feels like I'm suffocating BUT I wear it in public places! Helps getting the grocery shopping finished faster! 😂

The mask doesn’t protect you, it protects others. Go on YouTube and search on masks and the spread of COVID. An infected person who sneezes can send out virus particles more than 20 feet with no mask. With a mask, the spray is less than 18 inches. That is why masks and social distancing works.

[Altavia]

Maybe approach mask wearing from the perspective that they make you look younger and thinner

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Maybe approach mask wearing from the perspective that they make you look younger and thinner

It also means that you can ditch the foundation, blush, contour cream, and lipstick because no one's going to see that part of your face anyway.

[Byte1]

It's the leas you can do to protectfellow Amdricans.!!

Oh really? Why should I be mandated to protect my "fellow Americans?" Did all of them serve their country, that were able? Do all of them carry a concealed weapon to protect their "fellow American?" Do they all contribute to charity? Sorry, if I do not take very well to those that attempt to shame folks into conforming to their standards.

I wear a mask, but not for you or any other "fellow American" other than my spouse. I do not even feel that it helps much, but wear one hoping that I might not come home from shopping and pass on a deadly virus. Is it deadly to me? Probably not. I have a pretty good immune system. Even if not, why should you care?

I am not wearing my mask just to appease my "fellow American" because I know that if you are going to get it, you will. No mask will probably save anyone that is actually exposed to someone infected. I know there are many folks that wear masks that have been infected. I know many folks that do not wear masks that have not been infected. The mask may help but more than likely, it is just as effective as carrying a four leaf clover or wearing garlic around you neck. If you want insurance, then you might want to shore up your relationship with GOD.

[Byte1]

I have read where many posters use medical personnel as examples of why to wear a mask during a pandemic. Apparently, some of those posters do not realize that those little cloth masks are NOT being used by medical personnel when dealing with pandemics. They quarantine areas of hospitals and enter only with full bio hazard suits. Did you see anyone being treated for Ebola by medical personnel wearing only a face mask? And yet, you all feel that a mask is going to save you? You shame others for not wearing one? Why are you not wearing gloves, long sleeved shirts, long pants, eye and head protection? Surly you are not naive enough to think that a simple homemade cloth face mask is going to save you if you are exposed? This is not a simple cold.

I apologize. I am not trying to discourage anyone. Wear your placebo just like I do when I go out to shop. If it keeps your spirits up, then the mask is working in one manner, at least.

[Bucco]

I have read where many posters use medical personnel as examples of why to wear a mask during a pandemic. Apparently, some of those posters do not realize that those little cloth masks are NOT being used by medical personnel when dealing with pandemics. They quarantine areas of hospitals and enter only with full bio hazard suits. Did you see anyone being treated for Ebola by medical personnel wearing only a face mask? And yet, you all feel that a mask is going to save you? You shame others for not wearing one? Why are you not wearing gloves, long sleeved shirts, long pants, eye and head protection? Surly you are not naive enough to think that a simple homemade cloth face mask is going to save you if you are exposed? This is not a simple cold.

I apologize. I am not trying to discourage anyone. Wear your placebo just like I do when I go out to shop. If it keeps your spirits up, then the mask is working in one manner, at least.

Over the many years on here, I have fired off a post and then re read it and deleted it or made some serious changes.

Did you actually read what you posted here ? Do you actually feel that intellectually endowed to know better than those who have dealt with similar situations for many years, and have a medical view point on a medical problem ?

I have read others that sound off the same philosophy, but they are radical extremist very much into "p"; I can only assume that is your basis, and I sincerely hope that not one person takes your advice

[Byte1]

Over the many years on here, I have fired off a post and then re read it and deleted it or made some serious changes.

Did you actually read what you posted here ? Do you actually feel that intellectually endowed to know better than those who have dealt with similar situations for many years, and have a medical view point on a medical problem ?

I have read others that sound off the same philosophy, but they are radical extremist very much into "p"; I can only assume that is your basis, and I sincerely hope that not one person takes your advice

OK, point taken. You do know that in my posts, I have NEVER suggested or advised anyone NOT to wear a mask, right? I have also stated that I wear a mask when shopping. My point was to stress that many on here are over exaggerating the performance of these inadequate masks and that they do nothing more than perform a placebo effect. And that is good, because many on here seem like they live only through gloom and doom.

There are a lot of "experts" on here and it seems that there is only one or two that support FACTUAL statements with real facts to back them up. Other than that, all I hear is hearsay and opinions. I have expressed my opinion.

Villages portion of Sumter Co = Approx 52,000 residents
Deaths attributed to COVID19 in same area = 8 (maybe 9)

Someone want to do the math for the percentage of deaths to residents? I believe it is well less than 1%.

Until the ratio percentage moves up (and it is hardly budging) I am not going to panic and run around screaming "the sky is falling."

Be positive, be happy, live longer. It won't be the virus that gets you. It will be a stress related fatality.

Just in case someone misconstrues my comment again, Please wear a mask so that other folks don't panic when they see you. And wash your hands and keep them away from your face, like your momma told you. :bigbow:

[Snowprint]

Asymptomatic infected people do shed the virus. They can infect someone who may become ill or die. There’s no excuse for not wearing a mask if you’re not advised by a physician that doing so is harmful. The “mixed” messages ended months ago when concern for the availability for front line health workers was a concern. Perhaps everyone will finally get the message that masks are necessary since a prominent person finally tweeted out a picture of wearing one and encouraged everyone else to do so.

[anothersteve]

Apparently, some of those posters do not realize that those little cloth masks are NOT being used by medical personnel when dealing with pandemics. They quarantine areas of hospitals and enter only with full bio hazard suits. Did you see anyone being treated for Ebola by medical personnel wearing only a face mask?
.

You mean like this? :duck:
:)

[Bucco]

OK, point taken. You do know that in my posts, I have NEVER suggested or advised anyone NOT to wear a mask, right? I have also stated that I wear a mask when shopping. My point was to stress that many on here are over exaggerating the performance of these inadequate masks and that they do nothing more than perform a placebo effect. And that is good, because many on here seem like they live only through gloom and doom.

There are a lot of "experts" on here and it seems that there is only one or two that support FACTUAL statements with real facts to back them up. Other than that, all I hear is hearsay and opinions. I have expressed my opinion.

Villages portion of Sumter Co = Approx 52,000 residents
Deaths attributed to COVID19 in same area = 8 (maybe 9)

Someone want to do the math for the percentage of deaths to residents? I believe it is well less than 1%.

Until the ratio percentage moves up (and it is hardly budging) I am not going to panic and run around screaming "the sky is falling."

Be positive, be happy, live longer. It won't be the virus that gets you. It will be a stress related fatality.

Just in case someone misconstrues my comment again, Please wear a mask so that other folks don't panic when they see you. And wash your hands and keep them away from your face, like your momma told you. :bigbow:

Yep, lots of experts on here. It is incredible that we waste our government money actually paying people (so called experts), when all we need is to give out the address for this site. Problem solved, all of America would be informed.

I grew up during a time when we had one voice speaking during a crisis. Since we lack that, I personally, have decided to listen to the experts who have made quite an outstanding career in this specific area (like needing legal advice and going to a lawyer) and listen to them.

I was “short” with you because talking down as I thought you did, or making fun of those who listen to advice from our experts is not acceptable to me.

I know nothing about this....I have been more confused than most with all the campaigns to malign one while embracing P’s advice. That just makes no sense to me, but perhaps I am just old fashioned.

I apologize for being curt, and I really hurt for the the fact that our country does not have one voice (yes I understand alternate opinions). Meantime, as I read about demonstrations against wearing masks, I will continue to wear that mask, and will offer no advice to anyone on medical matters.

[Schaumburger]

Imagine being a medical professional treating a patient in an ER who refuses to wear a mask and swears at you? This happened a few days ago to my oldest niece who is a Physician Assistant at a hospital near Durham, NC. She told Mr. I Ain't Wearing An Expletive Deleted Mask that she would return to treat him only if he put on a mask. My niece returned to the treatment room several minutes later to check on Prince Charming who did finally put on a mask. That young woman has the patience of a saint. God bless the medical professionals treating the COVID-19 patients all over the U.S. and the world. Wear a mask for them so we can put this hellish year behind us. Rant over.

[Altavia]

Imagine being a medical professional treating a patient in an ER who refuses to wear a mask and swears at you? This happened a few days ago to my oldest niece who is a Physician Assistant at a hospital near Durham, NC. She told Mr. I Ain't Wearing An Expletive Deleted Mask that she would return to treat him only if he put on a mask. My niece returned to the treatment room several minutes later to check on Prince Charming who did finally put on a mask. That young woman has the patience of a saint. God bless the medical professionals treating the COVID-19 patients all over the U.S. and the world. Wear a mask for them so we can put this hellish year behind us. Rant over.

Another example of disrespect towards our medical professionals.

I can't at this point fathom the level of obtuse thinking it takes to refuse wearing a mask. Overloading the medical system is killing more than just COVID patients.

Perhaps people not wearing masks should sign a document stating they will not seek medical care if they get sick.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Another example of disrespect towards our medical professionals.

I can't at this point fathom the level of obtuse thinking it takes to refuse wearing a mask. Overloading the medical system is killing more than just COVID patients.

Perhaps people not wearing masks should sign a document stating they will not seek medical care if they get sick.

Another option: anyone who comes down with any contagious illness during the COVID-19 Pandemic, requiring a visit to the ER, Urgent Care, or Hospital - should be denied health insurance coverage if they don't show up wearing a mask.

The hospitals, urgent care centers, and emergency rooms are way too busy these days dealing with people who are dying from COVID. You want a doctor badly enough, either wear a mask, or pay cash for your visit.

[Ritabob]

Stop bullying people about not wearing a mask. You don’t know why they are not wearing one.

[Ritabob]

I wear a mask when in crowds or when asked to. BUT, stop fooling yourself. Non medical masks will not prevent you from getting the virus. They will help reduce your chances but are not a preventative. Mask mania has taken over and people think wearing a mask will eliminate the virus. Stop the name calling and bullying.

[Medtrans]

I wear a mask when in crowds or when asked to. BUT, stop fooling yourself. Non medical masks will not prevent you from getting the virus. They will help reduce your chances but are not a preventative. Mask mania has taken over and people think wearing a mask will eliminate the virus. Stop the name calling and bullying.

Watching TV now as I’m reading your post and the dr said
“The more people wear masks, the less spread of coronavirus”.

[coffeebean]

Stop bullying people about not wearing a mask. You don’t know why they are not wearing one.

I would imagine most are not wearing a mask because the mask is uncomfortable and hot. Not a good reason if you ask me.

[coffeebean]

I wear a mask when in crowds or when asked to. BUT, stop fooling yourself. Non medical masks will not prevent you from getting the virus. They will help reduce your chances but are not a preventative. Mask mania has taken over and people think wearing a mask will eliminate the virus. Stop the name calling and bullying.

I would say most folks on this forum are here to educate those who refuse to wear masks, not bully them. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I think that's how the saying goes.

Masks are not to prevent a person from catching the virus. Masks are to reduce the spread of the virus. If two people are wearing masks and are talking to each other, the risk of catching the virus is very low. Add 6 feet between those two people and the risk is even less. Why not minimize the risk? FINALLY our president is advocating wearing a mask. His reason of it being patriotic is not exactly why I wear a mask but it's better than nothing, coming from the leader of the free world. I wear a mask to slow the spread and do my part to get our economy back up and running again.

[Altavia]

I would say most folks on this forum are here to educate those who refuse to wear masks, not bully them. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I think that's how the saying goes.

Masks are not to prevent a person from catching the virus. Masks are to reduce the spread of the virus. If two people are wearing masks and are talking to each other, the risk of catching the virus is very low. Add 6 feet between those two people and the risk is even less. Why not minimize the risk? FINALLY our president is advocating wearing a mask. His reason of it being patriotic is not exactly why I wear a mask but it's better than nothing, coming from the leader of the free world. I wear a mask to slow the spread and do my part to get our economy back up and running again.

Absence of Apparent Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from Two Stylists After Exposure at a Hair Salon with a Universal Face Covering Policy — Springfield, Missouri, May 2020 | MMWR (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm?s_cid=mm6928e2_w)

Absence of Apparent Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from Two Stylists After Exposure at a Hair Salon with a Universal Face Covering Policy — Springfield, Missouri, May 2020

Among 139 clients exposed to two symptomatic hair stylists with confirmed COVID-19 while both the stylists and the clients wore face masks, no symptomatic secondary cases were reported; among 67 clients tested for SARS-CoV-2, all test results were negative. Adherence to the community’s and company’s face-covering policy likely mitigated spread of SARS-CoV-2.

2 Stylists Had Coronavirus, but Wore Masks. 139 Clients Didn’t Fall Sick. - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/health/coronavirus-hair-salon-masks.html)

[coffeebean]

Absence of Apparent Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from Two Stylists After Exposure at a Hair Salon with a Universal Face Covering Policy — Springfield, Missouri, May 2020 | MMWR (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm?s_cid=mm6928e2_w)

Absence of Apparent Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from Two Stylists After Exposure at a Hair Salon with a Universal Face Covering Policy — Springfield, Missouri, May 2020

Among 139 clients exposed to two symptomatic hair stylists with confirmed COVID-19 while both the stylists and the clients wore face masks, no symptomatic secondary cases were reported; among 67 clients tested for SARS-CoV-2, all test results were negative. Adherence to the community’s and company’s face-covering policy likely mitigated spread of SARS-CoV-2.

2 Stylists Had Coronavirus, but Wore Masks. 139 Clients Didn’t Fall Sick. - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/health/coronavirus-hair-salon-masks.html)

This is old news. Another reason I'm a proponent of wearing masks indoors in addition to social distancing when you can.

[perrjojo]

I don’t like wearing a mask because it’s hot and a little uncomfortable. It fogs up my glasses. On the plus side I don’t need make up. I always wear my mask and I understand why you may not want to but what in the Cornbread hell causespeople to have total meltdowns when asked to wear a mask. Just dont get it. Just do it...wear the mask.

[Schaumburger]

Stop bullying people about not wearing a mask. You don’t know why they are not wearing one.

And for someone to drop an F-bomb towards a health care worker (my niece) when someone is a patient seeking treatment in a hospital and the patient refuses to wear a mask?

Refusal to wear a mask when seeking medical or dental treatment...the staff have every right to ask that person to leave the hospital, ER, urgent care center, doctor's office, dentist's office, etc.

[Schaumburger]

I would imagine most are not wearing a mask because the mask is uncomfortable and hot. Not a good reason if you ask me.

Do I like wearing a mask...not especially. I have to wear a mask at my office when I'm away from my desk on the 3 days a week, soon to be 4, that I am working in the office. So if I want to keep working in my office, I have to wear a mask. Wearing a mask at work...better than collecting unemployment and not wearing one.

Do I like wearing a mask while shopping...not especially. But all the medical professionals I have heard in the past few months have urged people to wear a mask while out in public if social distancing cannot be maintained. That's good enough for me.

Do I like wearing a mask to the dentist or doctor's office? Not especially, but I also like to maintain my overall health during this time.

Do I like wearing a mask while visiting my 90 year old father...not especially, but I don't want to take the chance that I am asympomatic and could spread the virus to him.

Sometimes as adults we just have to "suck it up." Do the grown up thing and put the good of the general public ahead of our personal needs and desires. Kinda like observing the speed limit, stopping at red lights and stop signs. But hey, what do I know, I'm just a sheep, or so I have been told.

[Madelaine Amee]

I don’t like wearing a mask because it’s hot and a little uncomfortable. It fogs up my glasses. On the plus side I don’t need make up. I always wear my mask and I understand why you may not want to but what in the Cornbread hell causespeople to have total meltdowns when asked to wear a mask. Just dont get it. Just do it...wear the mask.

I cannot get into my Doctor or Dentist's office without a mask. I have to let them know I am there and someone comes out to escort me in - after taking my temperature!

Just wear the damned mask, and let's get back to normal living

[Tblue]

I am not anti mask. There is discussion here about the virus being attached to moisture and being trapped by the mask. Most agree that does occur, but what about the virus that is not attached to moisture? I have seem many of the videos showing someone sneezing or coughing with and with out a mask. Yes the mask stopped the moisture which can be seen with the camera, however the virus is far to small to be seen with the camera. So you sneeze and may have the virus trapped on the inside of you mask, but people DO FIDDLE with their mask and thus it gets on their hands and who knows where it goes from there. Who uses a new mask every time? Who disposes of a used mask correctly? Who seals the mask 100% all the way around to allow no moisture to escape? For me the big question, at what point do we stop wearing a mask, when the death rate falls below 1% or when the government says to? Again I am not anti mask, social distancing, hand washing and a good immune system seem to work, masks may work but they may help the spread. Wearing the mask in not that difficult,

[Yung Dum]

Just wear a mask in public. No need for arguments. It's not about your rights. There are more important rights issues than this. Maybe we could not fight over at least this one issue.

[donbettyr]

As my niece, who is a nurse said, next time you are having surgery, tell the surgery team to not worry about giving you an infection, take yur masks off as I do not want to deprive you of oxygen!!