GoodLife
07-16-2020, 09:19 AM
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This chart plots deaths per million for New York (blue) and Sweden (green)
New York locked down on March 17 and recommended using masks April 2. You can see that these mitigation efforts did little to stop the rising death toll.
Sweden never locked down, did not recommend masks, kept schools open etc.
NY deaths per million = 1670 which is triple that of Sweden at 549
In both places, cases and deaths rose to a peak and then began falling. Currently both cases and deaths per million are going down in both places. Neither place has a new surge going on like Florida.
You can argue that New York State has a higher density per square mile, which it does, but Sweden is more than 3 times the size of New York with 50% of the population. In actuality, urban density is about the same in both places 85% (Sweden) and 87% New York State. You can also argue that New York City gets far more international travel than Stockholm, and thus was 'seeded" with more infected travelers.
The question is why did both places with totally different strategies see a very similar rise and fall of cases and deaths. Why are both places seeing no surge in new cases or deaths? It can't be lockdowns and masks because Sweden didn't use them.
Personally, I can think of only one answer, both places have achieved a level of herd immunity and the virus is running out of targets. Don't bother with stats on Norway, Finland etc because they have nothing to do with the similarity in charting NY and Sweden death rates. Try to explain why their deaths and cases followed a very similar curve and why both now have plummeting cases and death numbers.
This chart plots deaths per million for New York (blue) and Sweden (green)
New York locked down on March 17 and recommended using masks April 2. You can see that these mitigation efforts did little to stop the rising death toll.
Sweden never locked down, did not recommend masks, kept schools open etc.
NY deaths per million = 1670 which is triple that of Sweden at 549
In both places, cases and deaths rose to a peak and then began falling. Currently both cases and deaths per million are going down in both places. Neither place has a new surge going on like Florida.
You can argue that New York State has a higher density per square mile, which it does, but Sweden is more than 3 times the size of New York with 50% of the population. In actuality, urban density is about the same in both places 85% (Sweden) and 87% New York State. You can also argue that New York City gets far more international travel than Stockholm, and thus was 'seeded" with more infected travelers.
The question is why did both places with totally different strategies see a very similar rise and fall of cases and deaths. Why are both places seeing no surge in new cases or deaths? It can't be lockdowns and masks because Sweden didn't use them.
Personally, I can think of only one answer, both places have achieved a level of herd immunity and the virus is running out of targets. Don't bother with stats on Norway, Finland etc because they have nothing to do with the similarity in charting NY and Sweden death rates. Try to explain why their deaths and cases followed a very similar curve and why both now have plummeting cases and death numbers.