230 Felonies

[JGVillages]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

[manaboutown]

They should all be tried and executed if proven guilty.

[NotFromAroundHere]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

230 criminal charges. Not convictions. But still...

[Stu from NYC]

How does he get out on bail?

[retiredguy123]

230 criminal charges. Not convictions. But still...
There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.

[TexaninVA]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Sounds like the perfect candidate for execution ... we can do without the license plates

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[golfing eagles]

There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.

Yeah, sure:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: The average citizen has been charged 230 times!!!!!

[retiredguy123]

Yeah, sure:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: The average citizen has been charged 230 times!!!!!
I agree he is not an average citizen, but you can't put him in jail until you convict him.

[JGVillages]

There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.

230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.

[golfing eagles]

I agree he is not an average citizen, but you can't put him in jail until you convict him.

I agree. But if I'm ever charged with a crime I want this guy's lawyer. After all, it is likely he has less than 3 felony convictions or would have (should have) been in jail for a long time

[TexaninVA]

230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.

230 times charged and this dirtbag still ends up on the outside and kills someone ...

It's an indictment of our feeble and flabby justice system which tends to be warped by misplaced compassion for the lawbreakers.

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[Tennisbum]

There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction. Yeah I'm sure it was a mistake every time.......

[PhilipB]

That's quite a police record.

[akerwin1909]

230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.
The part that is worrisome is that there are likely thousands more like him! Out looking for a reason to hurt someone.

[Eg_cruz]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.
Maybe time for the “3 Strikes and your out” law in Fl

[DrBrutyle109]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.
I know someone that was convicted for a DUI for a 4 minute golf cart ride, where he pulled himself over and called for help. Go figure what the justice system has time for

[dewilson58]

Charges, not convictions.


He's just a misunderstood person.

[Byte1]

Not enough CCW's around when needed. You do not leave a mad dog loose on the public. You put it down.

[airdale2]

More likely, tens of thousands

[Rwirish]

And I bet he should have been convicted multiple times.

[Ndomines]

There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.
How much can you pay?

The guilty get convicted most of the time. Innocents SADLY get convicted on
rare occasions.
How much you can pay for legal defense is generally what becomes the foundation of the outcome.
Go after the system. Jail the judges and lawyers that make back room deals.

[WesMan]

230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.
Correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bay Kid]

Tons of taxpayers money wasted. Lawyers

[bobm3]

230 charges, 15 convictions. Still....

[Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com]

How much can you pay?

The guilty get convicted most of the time. Innocents SADLY get convicted on
rare occasions.
How much you can pay for legal defense is generally what becomes the foundation of the outcome.
Go after the system. Jail the judges and lawyers that make back room deals.
Remember that our Country population is about 6% of the World’s population. Also remember that we also have 75% of all the Lawyers in the WORLD, perhaps that is where the problem lies!!!!!!!!

[sloanst]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Sorry, but this guy, T. J. Wiggins, should be taking the celestial dirty nap right now. I can not think of a better reason than this to advocate for our 2nd Amendment rights and that we all need to be diligent with our personal security and safety.

[davephan]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Wrong. He should receive the death penalty! Society will be much better off when he is dead. Unfortunately, he can’t be tortured to death in the US.

[graciegirl]

I saw that one had an unusual last name and googled it.

The woman, Mary Clare Whittemore has two small daughters. Poor little ones didn't ask to be born into something so messed up.

[Dot Rheinhardt]

15 former convictions. Out on bail after breaking someone's arm with a metal bar.

[Andyb]

This is a huge problem in America today, there is no rehabilitation in the prison system and too many liberal laws that allow release of thugs. Sheriff Joe Arpaio (may he Rest In Peace) of Arizona, did it right, before he was sued and shut down. No one wanted to come back to his prison system. It’s why the violent protesters won’t stop, there are no consequences. Sad.

[MandoMan]

230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.

Possibly not legal INcompetence but legal competence! I have a niece who works as a public defender in Denver. She spends her days either making deals that keep people out of prison or leave them with minimal sentences or going to court and trying hard to win, all for a salary that barely pays her law school bills. She doesn’t care if the people are guilty. She says her job is to get people off and the prosecuting attorney’s job is to lock people up. They are both necessary. But I couldn’t do what she does! She’s good at what she does and wins a lot of cases and sets free a lot of criminals. Alas.

While I haven’t seen any statistics on this, I’ll bet that most of the people arrested during the protests, riots, lootings, arson, and destruction of public property in the past couple months were freed without charge or fine, much less jail time. Why should they complain if cops also get off on brutality charges when they are also brutal and get off? I think essentially arrests of protestors are made just to get people off the streets for a few hours and perhaps dampen their spirits a little—or maybe give them something to brag about in thirty years when they run for public office.

[coconutmama]

Sorry, but this guy, T. J. Wiggins, should be taking the celestial dirty nap right now. I can not think of a better reason than this to advocate for our 2nd Amendment rights and that we all need to be diligent with our personal security and safety.

How did TJ Wiggins get his gun? Presume it was not legal?

[OhioBuckeye]

I think our legal system is a little corrupt or they’re afraid of something if they do lock this person up. Seems just like what’s going on now with the protesting, they’re afraid it’ll come back on them if they make crime to tough! So it’s better to release someone than face the consequences on them. So your guess is as good as mine why they keep releasing this guy.

[collie1228]

I generally disapprove of the death penalty for a number of reasons. But there are some people and some crimes so heinous that they deserve it. If what the sheriff said about this perp are true, the death penalty is warranted without a doubt. He is a menace to society and if in prison for life, would be a menace to the prison population and staff.

[Number 10 GI]

How did TJ Wiggins get his gun? Presume it was not legal?

The same way people get illegal drugs, through criminal organizations that supply the tools of the trade for the criminal element.

[oneclickplus]

This is a huge problem in America today, there is no rehabilitation in the prison system and too many liberal laws that allow release of thugs. Sheriff Joe Arpaio (may he Rest In Peace) of Arizona, did it right, before he was sued and shut down. No one wanted to come back to his prison system. It’s why the violent protesters won’t stop, there are no consequences. Sad.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is not dead.

[Marvic 1]

This is a huge problem in America today, there is no rehabilitation in the prison system
They found out that you can't teach stupid new tricks....

[BlackhawksFan]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is not dead.

No but he is a convicted felon, albeit a "pardoned" one.

[Mumbles]

230 times charged and this dirtbag still ends up on the outside and kills someone ...

It's an indictment of our feeble and flabby justice system which tends to be warped by misplaced compassion for the lawbreakers.

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Agree that this case is outrageous. However, there are MANY things we don't know about this case:
1)Has the person been found unable to understand his own motives for the felonies? 2)Has the person been proven to be a mental defective?
3)Has it been the same judge who took him on in court every time?
4)How can we know, without being fully involved in this case, that it is due to MISPLACED COMPASSION that is the reason for his escaping the court's retribution on him? +++

Let's consider JUMPING ASTRONOMICALLY HIGH to conclusions that are, logically, unwarranted.

Let's talk about what kind of citizens we are to give SUMMARY JUDGEMENT on anybody--in a public forum, no less, that we don't even know, who seems to have been involved in far too many breakings of the law.

IMHO, jumping to conclusions is yet ANOTHER way of gossipping.

[Mumbles]

The part that is worrisome is that there are likely thousands more like him! Out looking for a reason to hurt someone.

Why is it LIKELY (meaning more that way than not), that there are thousands more like him?

[Mumbles]

Maybe time for the “3 Strikes and your out” law in Fl

There are so many problems with the 3 strikes concept, that loads of people have fallen through the grate and been destroyed. Who said that 3 is the right number, and based on what evidence?

If we want to get anybody on 3 strikes, we are assuming two things: 1) We are much better than the convicted person....something like a perfect human being which, I'm sure, we have never, ever known. and 2) I find it unfortunate that we have to beat up number 3 with so much overuse. Seems to me like an easy number that humans appear to live comfortably with. Rushing to judgement? Well?

[Mumbles]

Remember that our Country population is about 6% of the World’s population. Also remember that we also have 75% of all the Lawyers in the WORLD, perhaps that is where the problem lies!!!!!!!!

Interesting. In Israel, there are 585 lawyers per 100,000 inhabitants; that's 170 people per lawyer. [Statista.com]. In the US, in 2019, there were 1,350,000 lawyers/attorneys. US population was around 328 million. in 2019 (an educated guess since there hadn't been a census in a while) there were 242 people per attorney.

The judiciary system is holding its breath, it seems, to listen for the bursting of that bubble and the numbers crash:)

[DDToto41]

Someone had to tell the police what happened. It sounded like the young brother was the informant, the main character wouldn't talk and his girl friend was acting badly towards the police so it had to be him as no one else was there to see what happened. The police knew in detail what had happened, so the young brother had to turn states witness.

[Rosebud1949]

When and only when the punishment fits the crime will we get folk like this off the streets....... Some say the death penalty is cruel. Think of the victims before you make that call. Nothing is more cruel than that.

[Number 10 GI]

Back in the late 70's I worked as a Military Police desk sergeant at Ft. Hood, TX. One of the MP's made an apprehension of an individual for committing armed robbery on the installation. A few days later I talked with the criminal investigator handing the case, he said they had identified him as the suspect in 7 other armed robberies and were still in the process of calling in victims from other cases to see if he was responsible for their robbery. 320 arrests are only the ones he was caught doing something illegal.

[donassaid]

He should be EXECUTED, not making license plates.

[Baywayric]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio (may he Rest In Peace) of Arizona, did it right, before he was sued and shut down.

Fortunately, Sheriff Joe is alive and well and planning to run for Sheriff again in 2020.

[Shimpy]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Yes, and the judge who let him go should serve the same sentence as him since if he was still in jail this wouldn't have happened. If judges could be held responsible for the prisoners actions that they released there would be a lot less repeat offenders.

[davem4616]

by any reasonable measure 230 complaints = a bad guy

sad that he was able to 'get a pass' for so long...now he's killed people

anyone that suggests that this bad actor may just be misunderstood or a victim of his environment needs to get their stuff together....this thug belonged behind bars a long time ago

[JimJohnson]

Sounds like the perfect candidate for execution ... we can do without the license plates

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I agree, if and when someone becomes a danger to society then it is time to humanly euthanize them.

[jimmio]

One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.
230 charges, not 230 convictions. He's still a scumbag but being charged and being convicted are 2 different things.

[graciegirl]

230 charges, not 230 convictions. He's still a scumbag but being charged and being convicted are 2 different things.

Yeah, but close. You remember when every teacher told you that whatever you did your permanent record would follow you all of your life???

And that old saw "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior"??

And your mom says when you are rummaging in the fridge, "If it smells bad, throw it out"?

I used to believe that we should give everyone a chance or two to do things right but now I am leaning toward the view that people are born with certain personalities that make them completely selfish and remorseless.

Although I have corrected some really bad habits and am still working on others. Sigh.

I can tell you this. No one reading this would have wanted him dating our daughter.

[J1ceasar]

Maybe 1 time 2 time or 3 times. Not 230+

[Steve32162]

230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions!
No, it was 230 felony CHARGES. He was CONVICTED 15 times. And I doubt the convictions for only one charge at a time, so who knows how many charges resulted in a conviction.

[rmd2]

Fortunately, Sheriff Joe is alive and well and planning to run for Sheriff again in 2020.

I hope so. I heard him speak at a small community outreach program in Phoenix. Sheriff Joe knows the law and he refuses to make prisons a comfortable place where law breakers want to come back. I really like his common sense approach to the treatment of criminals.

[donassaid]

Really? 230 times? I don't know of a single person that has been innocently charged even twice.

[valuemkt]

I agree he is not an average citizen, but you can't put him in jail until you convict him.

They can certainly be held without bail until trial, based upon past history.

[Left4850]

230 felony charges 15 actual felony convictions not good either.