Just a friendly note to those that care

[Biker Dog]

It has been brought to my attention that the Medical Staff and Support Staff at the Villages Regional Hospital that acquire the cornavirus at work cannot collect workman comp benefits unless they can prove without doubt it was acquired at work. That is impossible to prove and totally unacceptable. They must use their PTO time and if they run out of their PTO time, they have no income until they test negative twice and can return to work.

Right now as I write this post, there are a husband and wife that are full time employees of TVRH that have tested positive and are self quarantined at home until they each test negative at least twice.

They need our help. Fundraiser by Jennifer Grinvalds : Please help, I have Covid and can’t work. (https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-i-have-covid-and-cant-work?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5806-thank-you-ask-share). PLEASE Donate to their GoFundMe account as little or as much as you can .

FYI I am just a friend that knows they need our help. :pray:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Why is this unacceptable. If I'm not mistaken in any workman's comp claim it must be proven that the injury or illness was acquired at work. I wouldn't be surprised to find that this is the case in every company.

[Stu from NYC]

What about unemployment compensation?

[Nucky]

What about unemployment compensation?

Can you believe that full Unemployment in Florida pays somewhere around $275 to $375 a week? That's just crazy. There must be a reason.

All the people who struggle with getting/spending the next stimulus payment, here is your answer. Hope they get better quickly. :pray:

[davem4616]

I don't get why this is unacceptable either...if their job routinely required them to come into contact with folks that had covid-19 there's a good chance that they have a worker's comp case...and yes they have to be able to provide demonstrable (or reasonable) evidence that it happened at work. If they were playing it safe away from work there's a good chance that they have a case...perhaps they should contact an attorney that specializes in employment law to help them build their case

this 'go fund me' stuff is really gotten out of hand...the George Floyd 'Go Fund Me' account pulled in $14M...why? (rhetorical)

I give generously to the Salvation Army, as do many....they'll help anyone in need...I'd recommend that you refer your friends to SA if they should run out of PTO and need assistance

[mulligan]

I'd suggest that any hospital employee that has public contact, walk out until the hospital assures them , in writing, that comp will apply. Otherwise, there are plenty of jobs around. Same should apply for all jobs including public contact.

[Biker Dog]

I'd suggest that any hospital employee that has public contact, walk out until the hospital assures them , in writing, that comp will apply. Otherwise, there are plenty of jobs around. Same should apply for all jobs including public contact.

I totally agree.:bigbow:

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I guess people might understand why nursing unions exist. Unions have a purpose and many in mgmt don’t like their rules, but there might be times when employee protections are important

[Vikingjunior]

What about unemployment compensation?

You must be ready, willing and able to work in order to collect unemployment.

[Biker Dog]

You must be ready, willing and able to work in order to collect unemployment.

Absolutely correct. Thank you.:coolsmiley:

[Stu from NYC]

I'd suggest that any hospital employee that has public contact, walk out until the hospital assures them , in writing, that comp will apply. Otherwise, there are plenty of jobs around. Same should apply for all jobs including public contact.

Would think they would be more protective of their employees especially with the virus putting them at great risk

[thelegges]

Would think they would be more protective of their employees especially with the virus putting them at great risk

This has been an issue for most healthcare personal in every state. They are furloughed, not eligible for unemployment, because technically they are employed. If infected you use your own pto time, it is not workmen’s comp, since there is no proof it is work related ( could have been grocery, family, friends)

Most Of the public have no idea Since March that more than 65% of employees at medical facilities Have been out of work, and have use all personal paid time, with no income after bank is gone

[Debfrommaine]

This has been an issue for most healthcare personal in every state. They are furloughed, not eligible for unemployment, because technically they are employed. If infected you use your own pto time, it is not workmen’s comp, since there is no proof it is work related ( could have been grocery, family, friends)

Most Of the public have no idea Since March that more than 65% of employees at medical facilities Have been out of work, and have use all personal paid time, with no income after bank is gone

Have friend who is in healthcare, another state, cleaned up on the $600 plus unemployment. Got called back after a couple months but got a nice chunk of change, more than they made working. Then there are those in healthcare, get hours cut, use your PTO, when that's gone so is your income for hours lost. For many of these folks the stimulus check is huge.

[Carla B]

My daughter is a revenue analyst for a major hospital chain. She was furloughed for three months starting in April. She was able to collect unemployment after struggling for a month to file with the FL unemployment system because their website was (is) majorly messed up. And yes, the FL unemployment compensation is only $275 per week. That and the extra $600 from the Federal government, although generous, didn't come close to her regular pay, plus they still owe her a sizeable amount. She was happy to go back to work.

[mtdjed]

[QUOTE=mulligan;1808450]I'd suggest that any hospital employee that has public contact, walk out until the hospital assures them , in writing, that comp will apply. Otherwise, there are plenty of jobs around. Same should apply for all jobs including public contact.[/Q

Isn't Workers Comp an insurance that protects the employee/and the employer in the event there is an injury or illness caused by work related issues. If so, it would seem that the insuring agency would define what is covered and then determine if coverage conditions were met. If someone disagrees, it seems that their issue would be with the insuring agency.

As an aside, it might be decided that one person was covered due to work, but perhaps the other was infected at home by the covered person. May be a different decision. Just saying....

[Biker Dog]

If they work in the ICU for 12 hour shifts full of covid patient , what are the chances that they got it at work. 99.99%. :ohdear:

[Rwirish]

Unacceptable?

[robin.nurse]

This has been an issue for most healthcare personal in every state. They are furloughed, not eligible for unemployment, because technically they are employed. If infected you use your own pto time, it is not workmen’s comp, since there is no proof it is work related ( could have been grocery, family, friends)

Most Of the public have no idea Since March that more than 65% of employees at medical facilities Have been out of work, and have use all personal paid time, with no income after bank is gone
Just some info- I am a Registered Nurse here in the Villages. I was furloughed for 10 weeks. Yes we are eligible for unemployment during this pandemic and even the whopping 600$ extra . I am not full time and I still received benefits. Just want to clarify for the statement that furloughed employees don’t qualify for unemployment . Thanks... and it’s great to be back to work...

[ficoguy]

Do not worry. This is going to be like 9/11 where a fund will be set up a d even body will be made while z and maybe even more

[Dana1963]

Florida is a right to work state.It has been brought to my attention that the Medical Staff and Support Staff at the Villages Regional Hospital that acquire the cornavirus at work cannot collect workman comp benefits unless they can prove without doubt it was acquired at work. That is impossible to prove and totally unacceptable. They must use their PTO time and if they run out of their PTO time, they have no income until they test negative twice and can return to work.

Right now as I write this post, there are a husband and wife that are full time employees of TVRH that have tested positive and are self quarantined at home until they each test negative at least twice.

They need our help. Fundraiser by Jennifer Grinvalds : Please help, I have Covid and can’t work. (https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-i-have-covid-and-cant-work?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5806-thank-you-ask-share). PLEASE Donate to their GoFundMe account as little or as much as you can .

FYI I am just a friend that knows they need our help. :pray:

[Dana1963]

$275 a week
The state offers a maximum of $275 a week — based on your earnings — for up to 12 weeks. An additional week is added for every 0.5 percent increase in the state unemployment rate above 5 percent. The maximum is 23 weeks when the unemployment rate gets above 10.5 percent.Can you believe that full Unemployment in Florida pays somewhere around $275 to $375 a week? That's just crazy. There must be a reason.

All the people who struggle with getting/spending the next stimulus payment, here is your answer. Hope they get better quickly. :pray:

[Girlcopper]

It has been brought to my attention that the Medical Staff and Support Staff at the Villages Regional Hospital that acquire the cornavirus at work cannot collect workman comp benefits unless they can prove without doubt it was acquired at work. That is impossible to prove and totally unacceptable. They must use their PTO time and if they run out of their PTO time, they have no income until they test negative twice and can return to work.

Right now as I write this post, there are a husband and wife that are full time employees of TVRH that have tested positive and are self quarantined at home until they each test negative at least twice.

They need our help. Fundraiser by Jennifer Grinvalds : Please help, I have Covid and can’t work. (https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-i-have-covid-and-cant-work?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5806-thank-you-ask-share). PLEASE Donate to their GoFundMe account as little or as much as you can .

FYI I am just a friend that knows they need our help. :pray:

No businesses that I know of pay WC for the virus illness. Not even the police or fire depts do. WC has to be proven to be work related and as you said, thats impossible. Most people should have accrued vacation or sick time on the books. If not, then its time to dip into the savings acct

[Jazzcat]

I'd suggest that any hospital employee that has public contact, walk out until the hospital assures them , in writing, that comp will apply. Otherwise, there are plenty of jobs around. Same should apply for all jobs including public contact.

Employers are not able to change the rules of workers compensation coverage to assist their employees. It’s a state statute that determines coverage. However it would be nice if the employer offered to help these valued employees with their expenses until they are able to come back to work.

[Dana1963]

Unions are considered bad in Florida wonder why. 60% of Floridians receive no benefits paid/subsidized medical insurance and receive 2 weeks unpaid vacation time.PYO means an employees uses vacation time as sick time it’s still a full 40 hour paycheck.I'd suggest that any hospital employee that has public contact, walk out until the hospital assures them , in writing, that comp will apply. Otherwise, there are plenty of jobs around. Same should apply for all jobs including public contact.

[Eg_cruz]

It has been brought to my attention that the Medical Staff and Support Staff at the Villages Regional Hospital that acquire the cornavirus at work cannot collect workman comp benefits unless they can prove without doubt it was acquired at work. That is impossible to prove and totally unacceptable. They must use their PTO time and if they run out of their PTO time, they have no income until they test negative twice and can return to work.

Right now as I write this post, there are a husband and wife that are full time employees of TVRH that have tested positive and are self quarantined at home until they each test negative at least twice.

They need our help. Fundraiser by Jennifer Grinvalds : Please help, I have Covid and can’t work. (https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-i-have-covid-and-cant-work?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5806-thank-you-ask-share). PLEASE Donate to their GoFundMe account as little or as much as you can .

FYI I am just a friend that knows they need our help. :pray:
And there the difference between a good company and a bad one. Publix and Walmart paid their employees.......yet an other reason this hospital ranks so low, they have always been hard on the staff

[Lindsyburnsy]

This is how we treat those who care for us? Prove it? Why is this unacceptable. If I'm not mistaken in any workman's comp claim it must be proven that the injury or illness was acquired at work. I wouldn't be surprised to find that this is the case in every company.

[Jacob85]

I have a relative who is an attorney in another state. He represents employees in the health care system frequently as it seems they treat their employees worse around health issues than anyone else. It always amazes me as you would think they would be more understanding

[Stu from NYC]

When this is finally over and business need people again hopefully potential employees will tell the ones who treat their employees like this, why they are not interested in working for them.

Good way to get companies to change policies.

[Biker Dog]

Come on people, please dip into your pockets to help this family.

$5.00 or $10.00 won't break you. :a040:

[KRM0614]

There’s so much fraud out there no one knows if this is real. Go fund me money doesn’t reach them for a very long time and get a cut of the money. You’d be better off setting up a fund at the bank

[DecaturFargo]

First of all, it hasn't been referred to as workman's comp. for years. The correct term is worker's comp. Second, many states have changed the rule that states that if you contract covid and you are a medical provider, it is assumed you contracted it while employed. Check your State.

First of all, it hasn't been referred as workman's comp. for years. The correct term is worker's comp. Second, many states have changed the rule that states that if you contract covid and you are a medical provider, it is assumed you contracted it while employed. Check your State. It's not up to the businesses to decide if you qualify, it's up to the language in the worker's compensation laws.

[ffresh]

This has been an issue for most healthcare personal in every state. They are furloughed, not eligible for unemployment, because technically they are employed. If infected you use your own pto time, it is not workmen’s comp, since there is no proof it is work related ( could have been grocery, family, friends)

Most Of the public have no idea Since March that more than 65% of employees at medical facilities Have been out of work, and have use all personal paid time, with no income after bank is gone

I believe, without doubt, this situation has arisen because of GOVERNMENT edicts, disallowing non-essential procedures and such, and with few actual Covid cases requiring hospitalization, there is little work, which equals little pay (furlough). I am 35 year friends with a hospital medical director here in PA; he and I recently had this conversation. As with almost everything else, government creates the initial problem, then proposes the solution that sucks in money like a "black hole", ad infinitum! :ohdear:

But at least we can be sure that this crisis has no political underpinnings :icon_wink:

Fred

[joshgun]

You are getting close to the issue. The insuring agent is falling the rules/protocols that the state work comp board provides. This board would have to change the rules for Covid to be included.

[lifefitnessdmb]

In a Illinois, unemployment is paying $1000 a month. My son is receiving it. Do pet week as you mentioned is within normal of other states. The idea is not to totally depend on it but go out and look for a job!

[Stu from NYC]

In a Illinois, unemployment is paying $1000 a month. My son is receiving it. Do pet week as you mentioned is within normal of other states. The idea is not to totally depend on it but go out and look for a job!

When someone makes more from being unemployed than from working why go and look for a new job?

[Marshaw]

I thought there was special funding for that,

[pdfortin]

All of us in health care facilities are like that.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

When someone makes more from being unemployed than from working why go and look for a new job?

Because it's temporary and the recipient knows that it will end. This is a cushion to help them find work between the point they became unemployed, and the point where ALL the unemployment funds will be shut off to them because they've reached the limit.

[Biker Dog]

I want to thank all the folks that donated to the GoFundMe account.:bigbow: