Covid Panic Porn

[blueash]

On July 10th we were presented with a new thread which began:

Florida reports 120 COVID-19 fatalities, its deadliest day of pandemic
Sounds scary doesn't it? But it's a flat out lie meant to scare you. Panic Porn

The poster's complaint was that there were only 9 deaths on that day. He attacked the media for suggesting that things might be getting worse in Florida

Wow...very scary, deaths are rising must be that surge of new cases.

Well guess what the media was right and we all should note that this was not panic porn, it was good reporting. Now that more and more cases are happening here, there are in fact more and more deaths. It is not just that increased testing is finding positives in low risk people.

It is that a whole lot more people are dying of Covid. Today was the highest new reported number of deaths, over 250. That's not panic porn. That's 253 Floridians whose death was reported today from Covid. And over 200 yesterday. So that surge in cases is now, as expected by people who recognize the seriousness of Covid, resulting in a surge in deaths

This graphic is from clickorlando.com

[Tennisbum]

break it out by county and see what and where the problems are.

[mamamia54]

I don’t understand why anyone would not take it seriously. People are dying, it’s not a joke.

[blueash]

break it out by county and see what and where the problems are.

The problem is in Florida. Do you only care about your little piece? I care about all of the people and families impacted by Covid. I even care about non-Floridians.

[Stu from NYC]

Hope people start taking this more seriously and the vaccine comes before the end of this year

[GoodLife]

Fauci: "New York did it right"

Deaths per million residents:

New York City: 3872

New York State: 1680

Florida: 303

As long as Fauci does not give us any compliments, we should be ok. :icon_wink:

85539

Reporter: Boss, Florida's new cases seems to be going down

Editor: No worries, we'll go with new deaths, use the scary charts, not the date of death ones scientists use.

Reporter: But if cases keep going down, won't the deaths come down in a few weeks?

Editor: No worries, we'll go back to scare stories about how schools are dangerous

Reporter: But European schools have been open with no problems, Sweden kept their schools open and had zero deaths under 19, only 53 covid cases per 100k teachers and they can't say they caught it in the classroom.

Editor: We'll keep that under wraps, the virus is different here and the teachers unions will come up with some bogus scare studies and we can promote day care for kids in empty classrooms with adult supervisors which is much safer.

Reporter: Okay then, as long as I keep getting my paycheck. When can I start writing good news stories?

Editor: After November

[Stu from NYC]

Fauci: "New York did it right"

Deaths per million residents:

New York City: 3872

New York State: 1680

Florida: 303

As long as Fauci does not give us any compliments, we should be ok. :icon_wink:

85539

Reporter: Boss, Florida's new cases seems to be going down

Editor: No worries, we'll go with new deaths, use the scary charts, not the date of death ones scientists use.

Reporter: But if cases keep going down, won't the deaths come down in a few weeks?

Editor: No worries, we'll go back to scare stories about how schools are dangerous

Reporter: But European schools have been open with no problems, Sweden kept their schools open and had zero deaths under 19, only 53 covid cases per 100k teachers and they can't say they caught it in the classroom.

Editor: We'll keep that under wraps, the virus is different here and the teachers unions will come up with some bogus scare studies and we can promote day care for kids in empty classrooms with adult supervisors which is much safer.

Reporter: Okay then, as long as I keep getting my paycheck. When can I start writing good news stories?

Editor: After November

Sad but this is what has become of journalism these days

[tvbound]

I don’t understand why anyone would not take it seriously. People are dying, it’s not a joke.

With a respectful note of disagreement, I believe most people know exactly why it isn't taken seriously. As some high profile cases, and sadly deaths, plus drastically upwardly revised projections for this year have shown in the last few days though, it's definitely not a joke. Nor do I think it's a joke, that a lot of people want our young children, their teachers, bus drivers, school security, etc., to be used as test subjects for the goal of reaching a mythical 'herd immunity' for a nation of this size, without a sound national plan and defined procedures on how to achieve "getting back to normal."

[GoodLife]

Chartology 101

Media scare chart: Media loves these day of reporting charts, makes things look really bad, even though the headlines screams "deadliest day ever" all the deaths did not happen that day, most were earlier dates

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Charts scientists and epidemiologists use are based on date of actual death. See the difference?

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Same chart without the colors (from Florida Dashboard)

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CDC also uses more scientific date of death charts. Anyone who try's to tell you the media charts are scientific is clueless. When the media says Florida is the next New York they are clueless too.

[Hoosierb4]

[QUOTE=GoodLife;1810924]Fauci: "New York did it right"

Deaths per million residents:

New York City: 3872

New York State: 168

Florida: 303BAs long as Fauci does not give us any compliments, we should be ok. :icon_wink:

Goodlife......Looking at the CDC covid data tracker, I see New York City deaths per million at 2800, New York State (excluding NYC) deaths per million at 790. Looking at total cases, the totals are about equal. But, looking at the last 7 days, New York State plus New York City total is 4,649. Florida's 7 day total is 71,331. New York had a lot of deaths early in the outbreak, when they didn't know how to treat it. But, they've learned how to reduce the number of cases.

[charmed59]

Chartology 101

Media scare chart: Media loves these day of reporting charts, makes things look really bad, even though the headlines screams "deadliest day ever" all the deaths did not happen that day, most were earlier dates

85542

Charts scientists and epidemiologists use are based on date of actual death. See the difference?

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Same chart without the colors (from Florida Dashboard)

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CDC also uses more scientific date of death charts. Anyone who try's to tell you the media charts are scientific is clueless. When the media says Florida is the next New York they are clueless too.

The last two charts have the warnings. “ Death data often has significant delays in reporting, so data within the past two weeks will be updated frequently.‘’

In other words. Those charts with the death numbers going down, count back 14 days and know those numbers will likely go up. The highest number of deaths is 13 days ago, and that number could get bigger.

[Two Bills]

Lies, damned lies, and statistics!!

[camaguey48]

Lies, damned lies, and statistics!!
The propaganda lies by the mercenary media continues to keep everyone in panic mode. Their purpose is to destroy our beautiful country and our enemies are gleefully watching and waiting.

Don't believe everything you hear. Even salt looks like sugar.

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.". Edward R. Murrow

[Hifred]

Herman Cain didn't take Covid 19 seriously. He wouldn't wear a mask and attended a large convention with many people in an indoor arena. He is dead now. When are people going to wake up and smell the coffee. Wear a mask, maintain social distancing, avoid large crowded indoor areas, and wash your hands often with soap and water. I have been saying this since February and have had a lot of negative criticism in March, April, May and June. Finally I am seeing people starting to listen.

[roscoguy]

The last two charts have the warnings. “ Death data often has significant delays in reporting, so data within the past two weeks will be updated frequently.‘’

In other words. Those charts with the death numbers going down, count back 14 days and know those numbers will likely go up. The highest number of deaths is 13 days ago, and that number could get bigger.

Maybe you weren't supposed to read those warnings or try to interpret their meaning; that could disrupt the 'desperate deniers' dialog.

Followed by an imaginary dialog between news-persons??? :ohdear: Maybe this one is just as valid:

Non-MSM influencer: How can I get people to believe that this virus response has been part of a conspiracy??

Some Doctor/Scientist: Here are beautiful, colorful charts that can be used for any argument you like. Sweden looks pretty good, wouldn't you say?

Influencer: Love the charts, but some evidence shows that Sweden wasn't particularly successful in stopping Covid-19 deaths compared to other nations.

Dr./Scientist: Then stop comparing them to only those nations! There must be US states that had worse results. Throw them into the conversation as a diversion.

Influencer: Some say that there are too many differences between Swedish & US people, such as their cultures, overall health, etc. Shouldn't that be taken into account?

Dr./Scientist:

Influencer: Point taken. More charts & graphs please!

[George Page]

Irrespective of the statistics, Houston, we have a problem. And many Villagers should be ashamed of their behavior and their refusal to wear masks to protect the most vulnerable among us. Sadly, socially irresponsible actions are the norm for some here.

[Dahabs]

Fauci: "New York did it right"

Deaths per million residents:

New York City: 3872

New York State: 1680

Florida: 303

As long as Fauci does not give us any compliments, we should be ok. :icon_wink:

85539

Reporter: Boss, Florida's new cases seems to be going down

Editor: No worries, we'll go with new deaths, use the scary charts, not the date of death ones scientists use.

Reporter: But if cases keep going down, won't the deaths come down in a few weeks?

Editor: No worries, we'll go back to scare stories about how schools are dangerous

Reporter: But European schools have been open with no problems, Sweden kept their schools open and had zero deaths under 19, only 53 covid cases per 100k teachers and they can't say they caught it in the classroom.

Editor: We'll keep that under wraps, the virus is different here and the teachers unions will come up with some bogus scare studies and we can promote day care for kids in empty classrooms with adult supervisors which is much safer.

Reporter: Okay then, as long as I keep getting my paycheck. When can I start writing good news stories?

Editor: After November

Good luck to you.

[askcarl]

Come Monday, Zero new cases reported. All testing stopped for the weekend due to Storm.

Chill....Things Are Getting Better - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l96BNMieL0)

[Beyond The Wall]

That is priceless! Well said

[Coal Miner]

Just focus on this country. We should be doing much better.

[alfredpopcorn@gmail.com]

Total cases sounds dire . Total positive results. Cases sounds as if there hospital cases . Intentionally ? Yes . We are testing a lot plus didn’t all the experts say when you open up you will have more positive cases .? We ( Florida) opened up months ago compared to NY . Plus I don’t trust any numbers. To many people have a agenda .

[NotGolfer]

So, some believe that if you wish to believe REAL stats, then you are a denier and do not believe this virus is real, but a hoax. If you do not do as they feel you should do, then you are putting others at risk and don't take responsibility for others. So, correct me if I am wrong in my understanding, but you all believe that it is my responsibility to keep you safe, even if you wish to be about your business like you are the only person allowed to posture about in public. If some such as me feel that the masks do some prevention, but are hardly adequate, then you feel that I am being a denier and not taking this seriously? News Flash, I HAVE lost a close relative to the virus and I do realize that it is dangerous. BUT, I am not going to allow some panic driven, hysterical, "sky is falling" know it alls to dictate what is a valid fact, just because it fits their political agenda. I'll take you seriously when I see you wearing a total bio-hazard suit when you are out shopping. Do not think you can shame me into wearing what you deem is acceptable and do not presume to think that you have the ONLY valid facts. Here's something else to think about; did you really think that anyone else thinks your medical safety is more important than their own? If one does not care about their own safety as much as you feel about yours, why should they be concerned about what you deem acceptable preventative attire?
The reason there is so much discussion about the validity of circulated stats provided by the media, is because they are often more wrong than right. Take for instance the local on line news rag that uses the Villages as a target for EVERY negative item of news real or made up in order to demean Villagers and the community EVERY day. Their headline will imply that there is a great wave of deaths in the Villages when their article actually gives stats for areas outside of the Villages. So, to defend them we have folks with a political agenda that say, "but we care about everyone, not just our own community." BS! Sorry, I meant to say that I call "BS" on your agenda.
No one is making light of this virus. We simply do not wish to see hysterical Betties running amok and scaring folks with "the sky is falling. It's the end of the world" when better minds are thinking logically and using common sense. If it makes you feel vindicated, then yes, you are correct in one point. I don't care as much about you as I do about myself or my family. Your safety is not my priority. Feel better now? Yes, I take this virus seriously, but I am not going to allow politics determine how I handle this. I am going to take this as just another little glitch or crisis to be added to others that we have had throughout history. We have had wars that have killed more people and we have also had other medical emergencies that have killed off more of the population. And we will likely have more of them in the future. If you can't handle this one without hysterics, then go bury your head in the sand or hide in your safe room until it is past.
If you are trying to prove that some don't care, try to understand that we do care.....just not about you right now.

Thanks to those on here that produce valid facts to back up their statements. Not that an opinion blog requires facts, but thank you for proving your fact based opinions. Too bad that some do not find your stats exaggerated enough to be worthy of their panic.

And to those that feel that Mr. Cain was negligent by not wearing his mask once, and that caused his death by virus, I have news for you. I know of one person that did ALL the right things and is still dead by virus. Your little placebo(mask) may or may not save you, but don't think that wearing a rain coat in a storm is going to keep you dry. It might keep you partially dry but you will still get wet.

Well said! I've asked the question and maybe you're the only one who answered it so far, "how many of the deaths did things right got the dreaded virus and still died?" I'm so sorry for your loss by the way. The fear that is going on around us is palpable. Critical thinking seems to have been side-lined with this thing and no one seems to question any of the information coming at us from seemingly all sides. I take the virus seriously and try to do my part of taking care of myself. I can't take care of anyone else nor should I point fingers on perceptions that may or may not be true. There may be VERY good reasons someone doesn't wear a mask. We all have an immune system and it's given to us for a reason.

As for pointing at Herman Cain and saying he did this or didn't do that---we don't know all of that for sure. The one point missed is at one time he had a diagnosis of Stage 4 prostate cancer. "They" said it was in remission and happened years ago but do we know that for sure. Cancer that was Stage 4 can come back OR it can weaken the body (or the treatments there-of) so it can't fight other things. He was also in his 70's. We don't know his other medical history. To use him or anyone as an example just doesn't fly. Each person is different in how their bodies react to illnesses, to drugs etc.

[Scorpyo]

Sad but this is what has become of journalism these days
Actually you're being too kind by referring to it as journalism.

[Mumbles]

Look folks, let's call this what it is: The Chinese Virus, the Wuhan Virus, the CCP virus. It is not the Trump virus as it has been referred to by others. The virus, as they say about millions of other products, was "Made in China".

What's in a name? An ember that sparks anger, especially when it is WEAPON-IZED.
Mumbles

[Dana1963]

http://https://twitter.com/chiefsfanchi/status/1288977520352731138?s=21

[merrymini]

Herman Cain didn't take Covid 19 seriously. He wouldn't wear a mask and attended a large convention with many people in an indoor arena. He is dead now. When are people going to wake up and smell the coffee. Wear a mask, maintain social distancing, avoid large crowded indoor areas, and wash your hands often with soap and water. I have been saying this since February and have had a lot of negative criticism in March, April, May and June. Finally I am seeing people starting to listen.

Had stage four colon cancer and apparently died of related pneumonia.

[Eileenrush]

Agree

[Marine1974]

If you compare Sweden’s population of
10 million to Minnesota and Wisconsin
populations of 10 million you see Sweden had 3149 more deaths than Minnesota and Wisconsin combined .
Not sure that is doing better than these
2 US states if you value a human life .

[roscoguy]

Had stage four colon cancer and apparently died of related pneumonia.

What is your source for that? Every single article I found online says that he died after a battle with the coronavirus/Covid-19.

[petiteone]

Irrespective of the statistics, Houston, we have a problem. And many Villagers should be ashamed of their behavior and their refusal to wear masks to protect the most vulnerable among us. Sadly, socially irresponsible actions are the norm for some here.

As a retired MD I couldn’t agree more. Preventive
Masking and distancing are the solution. Be educated, Be aware, and take care and Precautions. It’s not difficult. Save yourself, Save your friends.

[jimjamuser]

Hope people start taking this more seriously and the vaccine comes before the end of this year
Hope is not a strategy. Activating the DPA fully would be. Even I can think of other strategies.

[jimjamuser]

Fauci: "New York did it right"

Deaths per million residents:

New York City: 3872

New York State: 1680

Florida: 303

As long as Fauci does not give us any compliments, we should be ok. :icon_wink:

85539

Reporter: Boss, Florida's new cases seems to be going down

Editor: No worries, we'll go with new deaths, use the scary charts, not the date of death ones scientists use.

Reporter: But if cases keep going down, won't the deaths come down in a few weeks?

Editor: No worries, we'll go back to scare stories about how schools are dangerous

Reporter: But European schools have been open with no problems, Sweden kept their schools open and had zero deaths under 19, only 53 covid cases per 100k teachers and they can't say they caught it in the classroom.

Editor: We'll keep that under wraps, the virus is different here and the teachers unions will come up with some bogus scare studies and we can promote day care for kids in empty classrooms with adult supervisors which is much safer.

Reporter: Okay then, as long as I keep getting my paycheck. When can I start writing good news stories?

Editor: After November
Wonder what could be the motivation behind the "downplayer downers"? Could there be a paid staff of downers somewhere in DC? I notice Nov is on a lot of minds.

[manaboutown]

I always wear a mask in public buildings or when near others outdoors. I do this to protect them in case I may be asymptomatic and exhaling the Wuhan virus. It does trouble me when I see others not wearing masks when appropriate.

[jimjamuser]

With a respectful note of disagreement, I believe most people know exactly why it isn't taken seriously. As some high profile cases, and sadly deaths, plus drastically upwardly revised projections for this year have shown in the last few days though, it's definitely not a joke. Nor do I think it's a joke, that a lot of people want our young children, their teachers, bus drivers, school security, etc., to be used as test subjects for the goal of reaching a mythical 'herd immunity' for a nation of this size, without a sound national plan and defined procedures on how to achieve "getting back to normal."
Note : There is NEW research about young children under 10. Yes, they do NOT show symptoms often, but they DO catch CV. Medical scientists found it in their noses and throats as prevalent as in adults. So, their ability to transmit CV is the same as anyone. And practically speaking it becomes higher because who can resist a young child. You want to hold them or be near them. They do NOT represent DANGER. But, in reality, they are. And they have high energy and are hard to train / convince to keep their MASK on, or even to remain in one location - like socially distant. This NEW research is more powerful than it is recognized to be today. This virus is stealthy!!!!!

[Rosebud1949]

Hifred and BlueAsh comments here have it right. Wear a mask, & social distance, & CARE FOR OTHERS. If you do not wear a mask it says to many that you do not care about anyone but yourself. HOWEVER, we all know that by this action you could contract Covid 19.. then you will want someone wearing a MASK to treat you and save your life.. We know they will, that is their job, BUT why should they , when others who have been careful need that treatment more urgently.!!!

[jimjamuser]

The propaganda lies by the mercenary media continues to keep everyone in panic mode. Their purpose is to destroy our beautiful country and our enemies are gleefully watching and waiting.

Don't believe everything you hear. Even salt looks like sugar.

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.". Edward R. Murrow
Google...rise of autocracy in Poland and Hungary. The European union let them in because they THOUGHT (?) they would move toward democracy. It did not work out that way, they have become autocracies! With respect to CV and media. Note that the 1st step that Poland and Hungary did was demonize the media and then jail them. Would people of the Villages want to live in Poland or Hungary. If so, just wait until journalists get arrested. Those journalists covering Portland are worried. That can also be Googled. Downplaying CV and the media may NOT be the best idea to sustain freedom!

[jimjamuser]

Maybe you weren't supposed to read those warnings or try to interpret their meaning; that could disrupt the 'desperate deniers' dialog.

Followed by an imaginary dialog between news-persons??? :ohdear: Maybe this one is just as valid:

Non-MSM influencer: How can I get people to believe that this virus response has been part of a conspiracy??

Some Doctor/Scientist: Here are beautiful, colorful charts that can be used for any argument you like. Sweden looks pretty good, wouldn't you say?

Influencer: Love the charts, but some evidence shows that Sweden wasn't particularly successful in stopping Covid-19 deaths compared to other nations.

Dr./Scientist: Then stop comparing them to only those nations! There must be US states that had worse results. Throw them into the conversation as a diversion.

Influencer: Some say that there are too many differences between Swedish & US people, such as their cultures, overall health, etc. Shouldn't that be taken into account?

Dr./Scientist:

Influencer: Point taken. More charts & graphs please!
I wholly concur.

[jimjamuser]

Maybe you weren't supposed to read those warnings or try to interpret their meaning; that could disrupt the 'desperate deniers' dialog.

Followed by an imaginary dialog between news-persons??? :ohdear: Maybe this one is just as valid:

Non-MSM influencer: How can I get people to believe that this virus response has been part of a conspiracy??

Some Doctor/Scientist: Here are beautiful, colorful charts that can be used for any argument you like. Sweden looks pretty good, wouldn't you say?

Influencer: Love the charts, but some evidence shows that Sweden wasn't particularly successful in stopping Covid-19 deaths compared to other nations.

Dr./Scientist: Then stop comparing them to only those nations! There must be US states that had worse results. Throw them into the conversation as a diversion.

Influencer: Some say that there are too many differences between Swedish & US people, such as their cultures, overall health, etc. Shouldn't that be taken into account?

Dr./Scientist:

Influencer: Point taken. More charts & graphs please!
What the world needs now --------- is MORE charts --- and more cow bells.

[UseYourBrain]

Exactly !!

[Fieldsaj]

The situation is that there is a deadly, contagious virus out there. Granted it’s more deadly for those with certain conditions such as heart, diabetes and pulmonary issues combined with age. The only thing is that it can take anyone out regardless of age and health condition while leaving others as asymptomatic spreaders.
All of us need to take precautions so as not to spread the virus. We need to stop pointing fingers, belittling others and start working together. Get real. Listen to the CDC, NIH, legitimate doctors and epidemiologists not politicians.
Stop the whining and bickering. Just do the right thing to protect us all, whether you are a Democrat, republican, christian, Jew, atheist or something else.
Wear a mask! Is it gonna kill you?

[Byte1]

Wear a mask or don't wear a mask, it won't effect me any differently. I wear a mask to protect my spouse, only. I do not consider it to be any more effective than covering one's mouth when they cough, since experts/doctors say that as long as you are not near a person for a sustained period of time, you will not contract the virus from them. When shopping, I do not stand near a person and converse with them. I get my items and move on. According to the experts, I would not catch the virus even if I did not wear a mask. The store entrance has a mask rule so wear the mask, period. Being a smart A$$ and wearing it on your chin will only earn you scorn from others, not amusement or support. But, it is your right. If you all feel that you are protected by wearing a mask, then the placebo effect works for you. Folks wearing the mask are still becoming infected. I personally know someone that wore his mask religiously, as well as maintaining his distance. He still became infected and lost to the virus. Anyone leaving the safety of their homes or allowing others to enter their homes, takes a chance of becoming infected no matter how much effort they put into protection. Don't be fooled into thinking that a simple mask will protect you. Logic dictates that anything that filters the air in some manner will give a degree of protection. Do it right and purchase a military grade gas mask and get better protection. Better yet, a full bio-hazard suit. Mask shaming is just a form of being a bully. Suggestions are warranted, but demanding is aggression and UN-American.
There, you all wanted to push the panic and hysteria so I assisted you by injecting the plain truth. I prefer to be positive but if I am, then I am accused of being a denier. I do not think this is a hoax. But, I also know that America, as well as the world has gone through other catastrophic pandemics and survived to continue to pollute this world with their carelessness. Let's face it, mankind could lose half of the world's population and still be the scourge of this world. We all become dust at some point, so don't think that you can avoid the final outcome. No one gets out of this alive.
On a positive note, I plan to live my life like today is my last. I refuse to live in fear of something I cannot change.
Wear your mask if you feel the need, ....or not. I won't judge you. Besides, if others worry about whether or not you wear a mask, they probably should be staying home anyway. They can't control you, but they can control their own actions.
Life is great, so go out with a roar not with a whimper..........or not,... your choice.

[LoriL]

Thank you for a rational and non hysterical thought. The virus is real, but the death rate is pumped up. They are assigning Covid deaths to people who test positive but die from something else is many cases. The majority of deaths are in nursing homes which is tragic.

[WhiteToast]

An ambulance brought me to the Villages hospital Thursday night as I had diabetic keto acidosis. I’m still here. When you find yourself surrounded by sick people and caregivers and you see that my home self care and precautions are far far superior to the hospital - I’m scared pants-less. If you think it’s just “panic” I dare you to check yourself in . It’s easy to commentate from your bunker one way or another. Why don’t you quit chastising people for panicking in any form. There is need to be hyper vigilant. I’m extremely worried about getting Covid in the hospital.

[WhiteToast]

Well said! I've asked the question and maybe you're the only one who answered it so far, "how many of the deaths did things right got the dreaded virus and still died?" I'm so sorry for your loss by the way. The fear that is going on around us is palpable. Critical thinking seems to have been side-lined with this thing and no one seems to question any of the information coming at us from seemingly all sides. I take the virus seriously and try to do my part of taking care of myself. I can't take care of anyone else nor should I point fingers on perceptions that may or may not be true. There may be VERY good reasons someone doesn't wear a mask. We all have an immune system and it's given to us for a reason.

As for pointing at Herman Cain and saying he did this or didn't do that---we don't know all of that for sure. The one point missed is at one time he had a diagnosis of Stage 4 prostate cancer. "They" said it was in remission and happened years ago but do we know that for sure. Cancer that was Stage 4 can come back OR it can weaken the body (or the treatments there-of) so it can't fight other things. He was also in his 70's. We don't know his other medical history. To use him or anyone as an example just doesn't fly. Each person is different in how their bodies react to illnesses, to drugs etc.

I’ve done all the right things. I’ve isolated at home for 146 days. Now I landed in hospital. You never know what tmrw brings. I’m terrified to get it in here after all I’ve done right, I have yet to see one cleaner, and not one nurse staff or doctor has used the hand sanitizer by the when entering or leaving the room. They all touch everything in the room and never wipe a thing. I didn’t plan on being here and they won’t let me out for a few days. I could be a statistic despite doing everything right.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Had stage four colon cancer and apparently died of related pneumonia.

He had stage 4 colon cancer years ago, and was successfully treated, years ago. At the time of his death, he did not have cancer. COVID-19 is a viral pneumonia caused by the Sars-Cov-2 virus.

[Byte1]

An ambulance brought me to the Villages hospital Thursday night as I had diabetic keto acidosis. I’m still here. When you find yourself surrounded by sick people and caregivers and you see that my home self care and precautions are far far superior to the hospital - I’m scared pants-less. If you think it’s just “panic” I dare you to check yourself in . It’s easy to commentate from your bunker one way or another. Why don’t you quit chastising people for panicking in any form. There is need to be hyper vigilant. I’m extremely worried about getting Covid in the hospital.

On a lighter note, you are "pants-less" because they put you in a bottomless gown with your @$$ showing. :icon_wink:

But seriously, take care and get well fast so you can get out of there.

[Byte1]

I’ve done all the right things. I’ve isolated at home for 146 days. Now I landed in hospital. You never know what tmrw brings. I’m terrified to get it in here after all I’ve done right, I have yet to see one cleaner, and not one nurse staff or doctor has used the hand sanitizer by the when entering or leaving the room. They all touch everything in the room and never wipe a thing. I didn’t plan on being here and they won’t let me out for a few days. I could be a statistic despite doing everything right.

Another example/reason that folks need to rein back the hysteria and panic. Folks are stressed enough as it is.
Friend, what I do when I am stressed is to examine the situation. If I have exhausted all ideas and crossed them off as invalid, then I put the problem in the back of my mind and wait until the subconscious comes up with a possible solution. Stress is a killer and not healthy or helpful. You are not being negligent or callous by putting it out of your mind. Simply treat the situation as if everything is normal and that you are confident that a solution will present itself. Be positive. KNOW that you are not going to become infected just by being there. Be confident that the medical personnel know what they are doing and they are doing it right.
Do NOT listen to gloom and doomers. Let them waller in their own misery. Your being positive will be healthy and help defend you against this viral scourge.

I know every one of our fellow posters are wishing/praying for your safe recovery.

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I don’t understand why anyone would not take it seriously. People are dying, it’s not a joke.

Indeed, it is not. But responsible reporting by both the testers and the media would perhaps help. The media is losing the little credibility left by it's sensationalized and misleading headlines. I've also been noticing old articles are being pushed out again, as if they were new - until you check the date and see they are old.

With regard to the testers, I'm having a bit of concern, having recently learned of someone who made an appointment for testing (not here - over in the Miami area) who made an appointment for testing, but then was a no-show; four days later, she received notification of her positive test.

And of course we have the (mostly) younger groups that are having COVID parties and intentionally trying to win the pot of gold ($ thrown into a pot by all attendees) by being the first to have a positive test out of all the attendees.