Digital Villages resident ID

[Vikingjunior]

Anyone know if there are any plans for a digital ID for the phone so we don’t have to carry around the physical ID.

Or is a picture on your phone of your ID sufficient for pools, recreation centers etc.

[ctmurray]

Anyone know if there are any plans for a digital ID for the phone so we don’t have to carry around the physical ID.

Or is a picture on your phone of your ID sufficient for pools, recreation centers etc.
I think this is a good suggestion, Apple iPhones have a Wallet already and it can hold boarding tickets for airlines. So I think the Villages could come up with something. I think a photo would work for the scanners at the rec centers, but a minor problem might be sending a photo to non-Villagers. Good idea though.

[retiredguy123]

A photo of your ID card is not acceptable. You must present the actual ID card.

[PaulinTV]

Not sure about future plans, I would vote a resounding YES!!!!
However we were told by one employee when we forgot ours at the pool that a picture of it was not accepted, couldn't hurt if in a bind, but try to more mindful. My personal issue with the picture is I can never find it on my phone unless I remember the date I took it.

[Dgizzi]

Anyone know if there are any plans for a digital ID for the phone so we don’t have to carry around the physical ID.

Or is a picture on your phone of your ID sufficient for pools, recreation centers etc.
I think that is a great idea. They should have both options, some people might not like using their phones like that. Some people don’t like putting too much personal stuff on their phones. And speaking of security in a way. I am wondering what the point is of having gates when they have it posted to “USE YOUR GATE CARD OR PRESS RED BUTTON TO ENTER”!! Anyone & Everyone can come in, so why have gates at all? I have heard about the “red” button duct didn’t think they would advertise it? Just wondering what the logic of that is?

[tophcfa]

I think that is a great idea. They should have both options, some people might not like using their phones like that. Some people don’t like putting too much personal stuff on their phones. And speaking of security in a way. I am wondering what the point is of having gates when they have it posted to “USE YOUR GATE CARD OR PRESS RED BUTTON TO ENTER”!! Anyone & Everyone can come in, so why have gates at all? I have heard about the “red” button duct didn’t think they would advertise it? Just wondering what the logic of that is?

Two responses. First, I agree they should always have the option of having an actual non digital ID. I for one do not like having my phone surgically attached to me. I rarely bring my phone with me unless I am expecting an important call. Carrying an ID in my money clip is way easier than lugging around a phone. I never bring my phone on a golf course. I am playing golf, not working, and it is extremely inconsiderate to fellow golfers to have your phone making noises while golfing.

Second, the gates have two important purposes. Most importantly, they help automobile and golf cart traffic co-exist. In many places, without the gates slowing cars, it would be very dangerous for golf carts. Also, the gates slow down cars so security cameras can get a picture of each cars license plate. If a crime is committed and a witness can identify an associated automobile, the owner of the vehicle
can be easily identified.

[Velvet]

I like the idea of digital village ID as acceptable beside the paper one. Gates are not for security but to slow cars to give golf carts a chance to get by, ie. Traffic control. Why do people keep thinking the gates are for security reasons?

[Dgizzi]

Two responses. First, I agree they should always have the option of having an actual non digital ID. I for one do not like having my phone surgically attached to me. I rarely bring my phone with me unless I am expecting an important call. Carrying an ID in my money clip is way easier than lugging around a phone. I never bring my phone on a golf course. I am playing golf, not working, and it is extremely inconsiderate to fellow golfers to have your phone making noises while golfing.

Second, the gates have two important purposes. Most importantly, they help automobile and golf cart traffic co-exist. In many places, without the gates slowing cars, it would be very dangerous for golf carts. Also, the gates slow down cars so security cameras can get a picture of each cars license plate. If a crime is committed and a witness can identify an associated automobile, the owner of the vehicle
can be easily identified.
Oh Thank You I never thought about it that way regarding controlling the speed of cars versus golf carts. First time living in a golf cart community. And I did not realize pictures were being taken. Thanks for the info! ������☺️

[Number 10 GI]

I think that is a great idea. They should have both options, some people might not like using their phones like that. Some people don’t like putting too much personal stuff on their phones. And speaking of security in a way. I am wondering what the point is of having gates when they have it posted to “USE YOUR GATE CARD OR PRESS RED BUTTON TO ENTER”!! Anyone & Everyone can come in, so why have gates at all? I have heard about the “red” button duct didn’t think they would advertise it? Just wondering what the logic of that is?

It's to give the appearance of a gated community.

[Number 10 GI]

Two responses. First, I agree they should always have the option of having an actual non digital ID. I for one do not like having my phone surgically attached to me. I rarely bring my phone with me unless I am expecting an important call. Carrying an ID in my money clip is way easier than lugging around a phone. I never bring my phone on a golf course. I am playing golf, not working, and it is extremely inconsiderate to fellow golfers to have your phone making noises while golfing.

Second, the gates have two important purposes. Most importantly, they help automobile and golf cart traffic co-exist. In many places, without the gates slowing cars, it would be very dangerous for golf carts. Also, the gates slow down cars so security cameras can get a picture of each cars license plate. If a crime is committed and a witness can identify an associated automobile, the owner of the vehicle
can be easily identified.

The entry gates could work like the exit ones. You have to slow down and come to crawl waiting for the gate to open, it would be just as effective as using a card.

[Topspinmo]

I vote for scamming chip to be installed under the skin.:ohdear:

[billethkid]

The entry gates could work like the exit ones. You have to slow down and come to crawl waiting for the gate to open, it would be just as effective as using a card.

Excellent suggestion.

[graciegirl]

I vote for scamming chip to be installed under the skin.:ohdear:

You don't have one?????

[Altavia]

The entry gates could work like the exit ones. You have to slow down and come to crawl waiting for the gate to open, it would be just as effective as using a card.

This is construction mode in the south and works great without using a card or button.

The card/button is redundant and an unnecessary expense.

[Topspinmo]

You don't have one?????

Not for village ID:faint:

[jedalton]

I think that is a great idea. They should have both options, some people might not like using their phones like that. Some people don’t like putting too much personal stuff on their phones. And speaking of security in a way. I am wondering what the point is of having gates when they have it posted to “USE YOUR GATE CARD OR PRESS RED BUTTON TO ENTER”!! Anyone & Everyone can come in, so why have gates at all? I have heard about the “red” button duct didn’t think they would advertise it? Just wondering what the logic of that is?
so golf carts can cross

[Windguy]

I’ve never rented out my place so I don’t know, but do you have to surrender your ID when you turn your house over to renters? If so, then having a picture of your ID on your phone should not be a valid ID.

[bowlingal]

Here in the villages is NOT a true gated community. vendors do not have gate passes, therefore, must use the red button. Also true for visitors

[Rosebud1949]

I will NOT buy a fancy phone just to have my ID card on.........Just another item for the scammers, and hackers to get hold of. Many villagers are NOT permanently attached to their phones like some. Slowing to swipe a card, or slowing for an automatic opening is fine.

[bonrich]

You don't have one?????

I chose the bar code

[JoelJohnson]

I asked why they don't allow a digital version of the ID, the answer is that a digital version could be copied and it would take longer for someone to look at it to verify that it is real you. It could be photoshopped with a different picture.

[Singerlady]

Two responses. First, I agree they should always have the option of having an actual non digital ID. I for one do not like having my phone surgically attached to me. I rarely bring my phone with me unless I am expecting an important call. Carrying an ID in my money clip is way easier than lugging around a phone. I never bring my phone on a golf course. I am playing golf, not working, and it is extremely inconsiderate to fellow golfers to have your phone making noises while golfing.

Second, the gates have two important purposes. Most importantly, they help automobile and golf cart traffic co-exist. In many places, without the gates slowing cars, it would be very dangerous for golf carts. Also, the gates slow down cars so security cameras can get a picture of each cars license plate. If a crime is committed and a witness can identify an associated automobile, the owner of the vehicle
can be easily identified.

I always carry my phone on the golf course. I am glad I do. Needed it to call the clubhouse when my golfing partner collapsed from the heat...and that was up north! She needed to get to air-conditioning quickly. Wouldn’t golf without it now. I silence it so it doesn’t bother me or anyone else.

[blueash]

I asked why they don't allow a digital version of the ID, the answer is that a digital version could be copied and it would take longer for someone to look at it to verify that it is real you. It could be photoshopped with a different picture.

Correct. It would be so easy to put my photo onto your ID card for a cell phone record. I have wondered why the system used when we check in doesn't provide a photo to the rec center or golf employee. As it is now you could flash any green plastic card when you check in for golf at the exec courses. If instead when you gave your name there would be a pop up of your photo on the screen verification would be cleaner.

Of course they could also program the system so that when you were within 30 days of needing to pay your annual trail fee you'd get a notice by email and when you used the online reservation system to make a tee time.

[Astron]

You don't have one?????
Or do you? 😏

[Pdesensi]

Gates are there to help with traffic flow Not keep people out

[Denvercane]

Anyone know if there are any plans for a digital ID for the phone so we don’t have to carry around the physical ID.

Or is a picture on your phone of your ID sufficient for pools, recreation centers etc.
I would rather have digital /scanning at the gates. Barcode on your windshield is read and the gate opens

[Dgizzi]

It's to give the appearance of a gated community.
Thanks, my thought too!

[donfey]

Two responses. First, I agree they should always have the option of having an actual non digital ID. I for one do not like having my phone surgically attached to me. I rarely bring my phone with me unless I am expecting an important call. Carrying an ID in my money clip is way easier than lugging around a phone. I never bring my phone on a golf course. I am playing golf, not working, and it is extremely inconsiderate to fellow golfers to have your phone making noises while golfing.

Second, the gates have two important purposes. Most importantly, they help automobile and golf cart traffic co-exist. In many places, without the gates slowing cars, it would be very dangerous for golf carts. Also, the gates slow down cars so security cameras can get a picture of each cars license plate. If a crime is committed and a witness can identify an associated automobile, the owner of the vehicle
can be easily identified.

Slowing down all traffic at the gates allows for better pictures of the vehicles and passengers. So SMILE!

[Barryb46]

I thought the gates were to keep us old folks from wandering off :)

[Dana1963]

I have a phone case that carries credit cards. If it’s that important to carry cell phone why not carry ID and driver’s license.

[PanamaKim]

Last summer I was constantly forgetting my ID card when we played bridge at one of the rec centers (often left it in the pool bag). I took a photo of the ID card and the lady that scans it accepted it and it scanned. Now, maybe she recognized me since we saw each other weekly. But my point is: take a picture of your ID and store it in your photos in a place you can easily find it. That way, if you forget your card, you have a back up that will likely be accepted, especially if you have secondary ID on you. I find those scanning ID’s use good discretion, at least in the off-season. I’ve been given a pass on through when I’ve forgotten my card. I appreciate them not being hard a$$es abut it.

[Ronnieslager]

As a renter in the Villages, NOT having a digital ID is like living in the 1930s. They should have options for people.

[charlottesweb]

Create an album so you Can find it quickly. I have one called paperwork where I keep photo of DL, passport, villages ID etc Makes it easy to locate

[Indydealmaker]

It's to give the appearance of a gated community.

Not at all. Anyone who is fooled into thinking The Villages is gated doesn't belong here in the first place.
Being a completely gated community would have also had the advantage of slowing down traffic, but it comes with a huge price tag in the form of street maintenance.

[Chillin Hacker]

Anyone know if there are any plans for a digital ID for the phone so we don’t have to carry around the physical ID.

Or is a picture on your phone of your ID sufficient for pools, recreation centers etc.
When we were up north we had transponders on the windshield if all resident. When you approach the gate it automatically opens, you don’t have to roll your window down and stretch to get close enough to reach the gate sensor. The transponder was small, less than a credit card and also almost paper thin. Very convenient!!

[ctmurray]

Oh Thank You I never thought about it that way regarding controlling the speed of cars versus golf carts. First time living in a golf cart community. And I did not realize pictures were being taken. Thanks for the info! ������☺️
Besides the issue of slowing cars for golf cart safety, and the license plate picture, there is the issue that the roads in Sumter County are owned by the county. You can't legally make a fully gated community unless you own the roads. In Marion County the roads are owned by the CDD and could be gated but they chose not to have this for several reasons. One is that FEMA won't reimburse any clean up in a gated community.

[jacRI]

Send an email to yourself and attach photo. Quick search on your name.

[TooColdNJ]

You don't have one?????

When did you move in?? They had a local veterinarian doing it at our closing, but we had a choice— didn’t want a barcode tattoo on my arm! All good. I don’t photograph well anyway. Just like EZ and SunPass- I think they’ll eventually be accepted as UNIVERSAL ID

[davem4616]

some may like this...others will be happy with what exists today

[pcacace]

I worry about losing it between the car and the golf cart. They should accept a picture scan just like the stores do for coupons.

[transplanted]

I understand the gates are for traffic control & picture taking. But why are some of them manned? I'm asking sincerely, as I don't know. From observation, the attendants don't ever stop the people and ask why they are entering (at least have never seen them do it in the two years we've been here). They just look for golf carts and then push the button so the car doesn't have to slow down, while those of us using our card are stopped waiting for the card to lift the bar.

With regard to the ID card. I'm not sure of other reasons, but I know that when we rented our house out for a couple of months before we moved down here, we had to turn our physical cards in and they were returned when we moved in; you can't use the amenities and have them rented out as well (I guess unless your living in a second house within TV). Also - if you forget your card, the attendants at the rec centers are able to look you up on the scanner.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I understand the gates are for traffic control & picture taking. But why are some of them manned? I'm asking sincerely, as I don't know. From observation, the attendants don't ever stop the people and ask why they are entering (at least have never seen them do it in the two years we've been here). They just look for golf carts and then push the button so the car doesn't have to slow down, while those of us using our card are stopped waiting for the card to lift the bar.

With regard to the ID card. I'm not sure of other reasons, but I know that when we rented our house out for a couple of months before we moved down here, we had to turn our physical cards in and they were returned when we moved in; you can't use the amenities and have them rented out as well (I guess unless your living in a second house within TV). Also - if you forget your card, the attendants at the rec centers are able to look you up on the scanner.

In a couple of the many histories of The Villages - I don't remember which ones - it was specified that the gates were manned basically for customer service. To reinforce the concept of America's Friendliest Hometown, where people greet you personally on your way in. It was also a way to help newcomers and visitors find the address they were going to - this was before GPSs, cell phones, and mapquest existed don't forget.

It is also an occasional convenience. Consider quick-moving storms, where they have to pull those gates up to prevent them from breaking off and causing damage or injury. Having someone there to do this is useful, however rare that occasion might be.

[17362]

I think this is a good suggestion, Apple iPhones have a Wallet already and it can hold boarding tickets for airlines. So I think the Villages could come up with something. I think a photo would work for the scanners at the rec centers, but a minor problem might be sending a photo to non-Villagers. Good idea though.
If it was like apple wallet it would do everything the card would (at this point in time) barcode and picture. Personally I think It would be 2020 thing to do. About the gates: I heard from an original villager that the red buttons at the gates were installed because of federal FEMA regulation, no other reason. I know from first hand experience that the resident only gates are being misused repeatedly by visitors- yes all they do is ignore the posted signs of RESIDENTS ONLY and push the red buttons to gain entry instead of using the visitors entrances posted with gate guards. Yes rumor has it that they snap a picture of the vehicle that uses the red buttons. Yes having a gate does allow for golf cart community patrons to regulate their driving more efficiently.
But, then again, the guards that are posted at visitor entrances DON’T do anything but wave them in thru as they press the gate up, not even considering the golf cart traffic as they do this.
There are flaws in TV security and I have never seen anyone trying to “protect and serve” the residents at the gates. Not even writing their car plates, nor documentation of the visitors purpose. For these reasons I came to the conclusion that TV is not interested in security of its residents. Which is why they super impose the “feeling” about the physical card on your person as a distraction from the real reason- they do not really care about our security or things would be a little more secure, especially at the gates.
It is up to us as individuals to protect ourselves and each other which is why we have some “resident busy bodies”always looking.
Just my 2 cents.

[JoMar]

If it was like apple wallet it would do everything the card would (at this point in time) barcode and picture. Personally I think It would be 2020 thing to do. About the gates: I heard from an original villager that the red buttons at the gates were installed because of federal FEMA regulation, no other reason. I know from first hand experience that the resident only gates are being misused repeatedly by visitors- yes all they do is ignore the posted signs of RESIDENTS ONLY and push the red buttons to gain entry instead of using the visitors entrances posted with gate guards. Yes rumor has it that they snap a picture of the vehicle that uses the red buttons. Yes having a gate does allow for golf cart community patrons to regulate their driving more efficiently.
But, then again, the guards that are posted at visitor entrances DON’T do anything but wave them in thru as they press the gate up, not even considering the golf cart traffic as they do this.
There are flaws in TV security and I have never seen anyone trying to “protect and serve” the residents at the gates. Not even writing their car plates, nor documentation of the visitors purpose. For these reasons I came to the conclusion that TV is not interested in security of its residents. Which is why they super impose the “feeling” about the physical card on your person as a distraction from the real reason- they do not really care about our security or things would be a little more secure, especially at the gates.
It is up to us as individuals to protect ourselves and each other which is why we have some “resident busy bodies”always looking.
Just my 2 cents.

I don't understand your post. There was never any pretense that the gates were there to do anything except traffic control. The addition of the camera's can help law enforcement and help recover some money for those that don't know how to stop when the gate is down but they are there to manage traffic. You also know that the roads are County roads and not Villages owned roads? The ID's are to insure that the amenities are used by residents. Not always well managed but that is the intent. Sometimes I think people make up what they think should be done here, then get critical because the rules aren't changed to meet what the made up then come on here and complain. Hey, why take the time to learn right?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Two responses. First, I agree they should always have the option of having an actual non digital ID. I for one do not like having my phone surgically attached to me. I rarely bring my phone with me unless I am expecting an important call. Carrying an ID in my money clip is way easier than lugging around a phone. I never bring my phone on a golf course. I am playing golf, not working, and it is extremely inconsiderate to fellow golfers to have your phone making noises while golfing.

Second, the gates have two important purposes. Most importantly, they help automobile and golf cart traffic co-exist. In many places, without the gates slowing cars, it would be very dangerous for golf carts. Also, the gates slow down cars so security cameras can get a picture of each cars license plate. If a crime is committed and a witness can identify an associated automobile, the owner of the vehicle
can be easily identified.

What you say about gates is true in many areas, but there are some area where they make no sense. Why is there a gate southbound on Morse before 466? There is no golf cart traffic there. Same as on Canal northbound going onto ODell.

On Chula Vista and 466. That has nothing to do with golf cart traffic.

I do see a need for gates in many areas but I also see a lot of places where they are unnecessary.

[THUNDERCHIEF]

anyone know if there are any plans for a digital id for the phone so we don’t have to carry around the physical id.

Or is a picture on your phone of your id sufficient for pools, recreation centers etc.
is carrying a i.d card too much bother? I guess you can't please everyone

[JoMar]

What you say about gates is true in many areas, but there are some area where they make no sense. Why is there a gate southbound on Morse before 466? There is no golf cart traffic there. Same as on Canal northbound going onto ODell.

On Chula Vista and 466. That has nothing to do with golf cart traffic.

I do see a need for gates in many areas but I also see a lot of places where they are unnecessary.

There is a lot of traffic making a left turn before the gate you are discussing. I know that when I'm headed south I start slowing down way before that gate. I assume that if the gate wasn't there the speed would be higher since there would no need to slow down until you approach 466. Carts turning left would be in jeopardy. I also noticed that when they took the gates down for the last storm almost everybody disregarded any thought of slowing down at any gate.

[Altavia]

Golf carts vs gates

VCDD Risk Management (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Risk-Management/golf-cars-vs-gates.aspx)


Position Responsibilities/Duties: Gate Operations Attendant

The Gate Operations Attendants are assigned to the Communications Section under the direction of the Communications Manager. Their primary responsibilities are to remotely monitor all live video feeds from gate cameras to ensure efficient gate operations and to allow remote access through the gates for our residents and visitors. Gate Operations personnel are staffed 24/7/365.

There are two Gate Operations personnel assigned to three different shifts (6am-noon, noon-6pm, 6pm-midnight) and one Gate Operations personnel assigned from midnight to 6am.

The following are just some of the daily responsibilities/duties of the Gate Operations Attendants in the Live Observation Control Center:

Monitor security screens and report any damaged or malfunctioning gates immediately to Dispatch for repair.

Provide remote video security for the RV storage lots by verifying and validating requests for entry.

Report any accidents and/or incidents visually observed in viewing security screens to Dispatch personnel for appropriate action (i.e.; contact law enforcement or maintenance vendors).

Remotely open unstaffed gates for residents and visitors as needed.

Remotely open gates at staffed gates as needed.

Open and lock gates in the upright position during maintenance operations when directed by Community Watch Patrol personnel or contract vendors.

Collect and report moving van information observed in viewing of security screens. Also reports information to Dispatch personnel so they can record and dispatch Patrol drivers if needed.

Assist Dispatch personnel with calls to residents registered in the Adult Watch program. For additional information on the Adult Watch Program, please click here.

Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Community-Watch/positionGateOperation.aspx)