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collie1228
08-14-2020, 09:58 AM
I know, another snake thread. I was out of town for a week and when I returned, I noticed that my collection of anoles was much smaller than when I left. Thinking a predator might be around, I walked out of my slider onto the patio, and was moving down the sidewalk along the side of the house (my courtyard villa has a grass lawn), when a long black racer raised its head about a foot off the grass and struck at me. I was 7-8 feet away from it, so it had no chance to bite me, but it scared the daylights out of me. It proceeded to strike at me several more times, so I ran into the garage and got a golf club. I'm a live and let live person when it comes to "harmless" snakes, but I won't put up with an aggressive animal of any kind in my yard. I wasn't able to catch him and he slithered into a thick bush where I couldn't see him. Apparently he left the area as I haven't seen him since and the remaining anoles are active again. Has anyone else ever had a run-in with an aggressive black racer?

Topspinmo
08-14-2020, 10:31 AM
He was aggressive cause you were afraid of him. He was bluffing with no bullets ( fangs or poison) to fire at you. I had to run one out of my garage he thought he was the boss till it put my boot in his face. He ran for the hills. I don’t kill them not because the eat the lizards but small rodents. I like the anoles cause the eat insects around house. Even had one inside House that I couldn’t catch for month. I would wake up and he would be steering at me from end table.

Bjeanj
08-14-2020, 10:37 AM
Yikes! I have heard they are aggressive if cornered, but from your description it didn’t sound like it was. Personally, I would’ve shrieked and run the other way. We have had one or two slither across our yard, and occasionally found snake skins, but no encounter like you described.

davem4616
08-14-2020, 12:19 PM
what was your choice of club?

Velvet
08-14-2020, 01:33 PM
Not fond of snakes that are aggressive myself. I’m pretty sure one of us would have to leave and since I pay the property tax I think it would not be me.
I have an outside hose.

Stu from NYC
08-14-2020, 01:37 PM
what was your choice of club?

I find a five iron works best for snake clubbing.

tophcfa
08-14-2020, 02:33 PM
I find a five iron works best for snake clubbing.

A couple rounds of 22LR rat or snake shot will do the trick as well.

eremite06
08-14-2020, 04:50 PM
I have a black snake in my front yard. See him every once and awhile. He doesn't bother me and I don't bother him.

Kenswing
08-14-2020, 04:59 PM
A couple rounds of 22LR rat or snake shot will do the trick as well.
I was thinking a .410. But I guess I'll have to scale down when we move to The Villages.. lol

collie1228
08-14-2020, 05:52 PM
My club was an Adams Tight Lies 7-wood. But the snake got up against the concrete wall, and although the Adams 7-wood is not my favorite, I was afraid of hitting the wall and ruining a perfectly good club. I have a broom out there now. With that next time I can pin him down and deal with him when he's helpless. I hope.

Ladygolfer93
08-14-2020, 06:57 PM
I find a five iron works best for snake clubbing.

:clap2: Love your question about which club to use.... reminds me of many years ago when Tiger's wife took a club to his automobile window.... and the most asked question around central Florida was "what was her club selection/"....LOL... turns out, rumor had it, she chose a 9 iron ! :ohdear:

Stu from NYC
08-14-2020, 09:13 PM
:clap2: Love your question about which club to use.... reminds me of many years ago when Tiger's wife took a club to his automobile window.... and the most asked question around central Florida was "what was her club selection/"....LOL... turns out, rumor had it, she chose a 9 iron ! :ohdear:

Well you do have to be careful with some of the irons.

Once upon a time playing in a kind of wet snow hit a golf ball and the head of the 5 iron went further than the ball. The next hole same thing happened with 6 iron.

Called Macgregor and they kind of begged me to send all of the clubs back and they could not wait to send me a top of the line set of irons. Guessing there was kind of sorta some legal issue if someones head got in the way of a flying head.

tophcfa
08-14-2020, 09:22 PM
My club was an Adams Tight Lies 7-wood. But the snake got up against the concrete wall, and although the Adams 7-wood is not my favorite, I was afraid of hitting the wall and ruining a perfectly good club. I have a broom out there now. With that next time I can pin him down and deal with him when he's helpless. I hope.

That’s why I keep my old set of clubs in the garage. I can lend them to others who need to borrow some clubs, or if necessary, risk damaging one of them for pest control : )

MandoMan
08-15-2020, 05:26 AM
I know, another snake thread. I was out of town for a week and when I returned, I noticed that my collection of anoles was much smaller than when I left. Thinking a predator might be around, I walked out of my slider onto the patio, and was moving down the sidewalk along the side of the house (my courtyard villa has a grass lawn), when a long black racer raised its head about a foot off the grass and struck at me. I was 7-8 feet away from it, so it had no chance to bite me, but it scared the daylights out of me. It proceeded to strike at me several more times, so I ran into the garage and got a golf club. I'm a live and let live person when it comes to "harmless" snakes, but I won't put up with an aggressive animal of any kind in my yard. I wasn't able to catch him and he slithered into a thick bush where I couldn't see him. Apparently he left the area as I haven't seen him since and the remaining anoles are active again. Has anyone else ever had a run-in with an aggressive black racer?

Those of you who get Amazon Prime on your televisions should watch the Australian series “Snake Boss,” about a woman who catches poisonous snakes in Brisbane for a living. It’s pretty fun, and scary, and icky, too. You’ll learn pointers about catching them using tools sort of like golf clubs.

tvmurray
08-15-2020, 05:33 AM
I would recommend a sticky rat trap along the wall. That will catch it and send it dispose of it. The only good snake is a dead snake.

Andyb
08-15-2020, 07:25 AM
Not normal characteristics for a black racer, but same species can have different personalities

Pdesensi
08-15-2020, 07:45 AM
I use a 7 iron. Does a great job on all kind of snakes. Food for birds.

willis100
08-15-2020, 08:03 AM
Snakes lives matter

daveczo
08-15-2020, 08:09 AM
Now that is funny.

Stu from NYC
08-15-2020, 08:13 AM
Snakes lives matter

But think that females will protest over the loss of bags.

PJilek
08-15-2020, 08:14 AM
Yes- we had one steal a baby bird from its nest right outside our lanai. We were unable to stop it😠 it slithered away with the bird😢

theruizs
08-15-2020, 08:18 AM
I would recommend a sticky rat trap along the wall. That will catch it and send it dispose of it. The only good snake is a dead snake.

If they were all dead we would be overrun with rats and mice. I prefer the current balance of nature, than you. And people, I hope the talk of guns was just a joke! Talk about overkill!

Gullwing7
08-15-2020, 08:41 AM
I have had many black racer snake encounters on my lot. They keep getting into my pool birdcage. Every single one of them has been very aggressive. I did some research online and found out that they are generally very aggressive when startled or approached. Also, if bitten, you need to see a doctor immediately because they care many bacteria in their mouths that are very harmful to humans. It doesn’t matter that they are not venomous. All that being said, I have let them all live because thy are a good part of the ecosystem as a whole.

Topspinmo
08-15-2020, 09:16 AM
I find a five iron works best for snake clubbing.


If you really want to scare them use 7 iron! :)

airstreamingypsy
08-15-2020, 09:16 AM
I would recommend a sticky rat trap along the wall. That will catch it and send it dispose of it. The only good snake is a dead snake.

What a horrible thing to say. If it wasn't for the snakes, The Villages would be overrun with rats and other vermin.

Topspinmo
08-15-2020, 09:18 AM
I use a 7 iron. Does a great job on all kind of snakes. Food for birds.


And cheating husbands:duck:

Topspinmo
08-15-2020, 09:19 AM
A couple rounds of 22LR rat or snake shot will do the trick as well.

Not in residential area, you will be arrested especially in this trying times.

genobambino
08-15-2020, 09:21 AM
I guess people don't know that it is against the law to kill the Eastern Indigo snakes [ black snake ] they are an endangered species. If you don't think there are rats and mice all over in TV, then you must be blind.

rmd2
08-15-2020, 10:00 AM
I would recommend a sticky rat trap along the wall. That will catch it and send it dispose of it. The only good snake is a dead snake.

I use the sticky rat trap in my garage for insects and I have been surprised to see all the things it catches. One time I saw a snake skin on the sticky pad. I guess the snake was able to shed its skin and get away.
Another time I saw that I had run over a snake with my car and its body was flat from the tire. I got a stick to get it out of the garage and was shocked to see it was still alive! I got a longer stick and took it out to the curb. All the dogs that went by wanted to sniff it but even they were afraid. LOL

GOLFER54
08-15-2020, 10:07 AM
Should have bought her a nice juicy rat for lunch, and you could have remained friends.

Topspinmo
08-15-2020, 10:19 AM
I use the sticky rat trap in my garage for insects and I have been surprised to see all the things it catches. One time I saw a snake skin on the sticky pad. I guess the snake was able to shed its skin and get away.
Another time I saw that I had run over a snake with my car and its body was flat from the tire. I got a stick to get it out of the garage and was shocked to see it was still alive! I got a longer stick and took it out to the curb. All the dogs that went by wanted to sniff it but even they were afraid. LOL


2017 - Snakes are cold blooded animals unlike humans which means their brain needs much less oxygen to survive. So when a snake is killed or say decapitated, its brain can live for much longer time than humans or other warm blooded animals. That causes the head and sometimes the body muscles to move even after death. When googled.

cbmerl
08-15-2020, 10:46 AM
[QUOTE=collie1228;1817342]I know, another snake thread. I was out of town for a week and when I returned, I noticed that my collection of anoles was much smaller than when I left. Thinking a predator might be around, I walked out of my slider onto the patio, and was moving down the sidewalk along the side of the house (my courtyard villa has a grass lawn), when a long black racer raised its head about a foot off the grass and struck at me. I was 7-8 feet away from it, so it had no chance to bite me, but it scared the daylights out of me. It proceeded to strike at me several more times, so I ran into the garage and got a golf club. I'm a live and let live person when it comes to "harmless" snakes, but I won't put up with an aggressive animal of any kind in my yard. I wasn't able to catch him and he slithered into a thick bush where I couldn't see him. Apparently he left the area as I haven't seen him since and the remaining anoles are active again. Has anyone else ever had a run-in with an aggressive black racer?[/QUOTE

I wonder if snakes are protective of their young and maybe she (assuming a 'she') has a nest of young ones nearby and was just trying to keep you away from it. Hmmm?

jimjamuser
08-15-2020, 01:17 PM
A couple rounds of 22LR rat or snake shot will do the trick as well.
That would be fine if we lived on a farm. Shooting a firearm off in your back yard here in TV-landwould be dangerous and irresponsible. And don't shoot or kill any black snake, period. They do good work! If you have a rattleshake in your back yard, go ahead and kill it with a 9 iron. But, be aware that they are hard to kill and can move faster than you can.

jimjamuser
08-15-2020, 01:20 PM
2017 - Snakes are cold blooded animals unlike humans which means their brain needs much less oxygen to survive. So when a snake is killed or say decapitated, its brain can live for much longer time than humans or other warm blooded animals. That causes the head and sometimes the body muscles to move even after death. When googled.
This is Florida. I have seen several rattlesnake skins in the pool areas. Ask a pool maintenance man about that.

jimjamuser
08-15-2020, 01:40 PM
He was aggressive cause you were afraid of him. He was bluffing with no bullets ( fangs or poison) to fire at you. I had to run one out of my garage he thought he was the boss till it put my boot in his face. He ran for the hills. I don’t kill them not because the eat the lizards but small rodents. I like the anoles cause the eat insects around house. Even had one inside House that I couldn’t catch for month. I would wake up and he would be steering at me from end table.
Rattlesnakes and water mocassins have fangs. Therefore, they have LARGE triangular heads. Not sure about coral snakes, which are rarer. Black snakes and other non-poisonous varieties are easily identified by small heads. They will, however, try hard to bluff like they are poisonous. A turtle can bite you like a snake, also. But, they are not as feared because they are slower. I have cornered a 4ft black snake in my golf car garage as I tried to "herd" it out - it was difficult because they are fast. Don't ever reach for them because like a snapping turtle, they WILL bite - and they are fast. I had only 1 experience with a water mocassin in about 45 years in Florida. I was fishing at a lake and standing in about 2 and 1/2 ft of water. A 3 ft one swam toward my leg. It got within about 8 inches of my leg, then decided that it was too big to eat (I guess) and continued swimming. I kept fishing. Incidentally, you are basically safer when a black snake is around. Somehow? they are tougher than rattlesnakes and keep them away. So, be nice to your low paid security guard - the black snake!

jimjamuser
08-15-2020, 01:44 PM
My club was an Adams Tight Lies 7-wood. But the snake got up against the concrete wall, and although the Adams 7-wood is not my favorite, I was afraid of hitting the wall and ruining a perfectly good club. I have a broom out there now. With that next time I can pin him down and deal with him when he's helpless. I hope.
Do NOT reach for him. Do yourself and him a favor by just "shoooing" him out the door.

jimjamuser
08-15-2020, 01:49 PM
I would recommend a sticky rat trap along the wall. That will catch it and send it dispose of it. The only good snake is a dead snake.
All wrong - both about the dead snake and any perceived idea that it would be easy to dispose of, if alive. And they can live for months before they slow down. They are real survivors!

jimjamuser
08-15-2020, 01:52 PM
Snakes lives matter
Very good! Both funny and true for black snakes and other non-poisonous ones.

jimjamuser
08-15-2020, 01:55 PM
What a horrible thing to say. If it wasn't for the snakes, The Villages would be overrun with rats and other vermin.
Are you talking the human OR the reptile variety?????

jimjamuser
08-15-2020, 02:02 PM
[QUOTE=collie1228;1817342]I know, another snake thread. I was out of town for a week and when I returned, I noticed that my collection of anoles was much smaller than when I left. Thinking a predator might be around, I walked out of my slider onto the patio, and was moving down the sidewalk along the side of the house (my courtyard villa has a grass lawn), when a long black racer raised its head about a foot off the grass and struck at me. I was 7-8 feet away from it, so it had no chance to bite me, but it scared the daylights out of me. It proceeded to strike at me several more times, so I ran into the garage and got a golf club. I'm a live and let live person when it comes to "harmless" snakes, but I won't put up with an aggressive animal of any kind in my yard. I wasn't able to catch him and he slithered into a thick bush where I couldn't see him. Apparently he left the area as I haven't seen him since and the remaining anoles are active again. Has anyone else ever had a run-in with an aggressive black racer?[/QUOTE

I wonder if snakes are protective of their young and maybe she (assuming a 'she') has a nest of young ones nearby and was just trying to keep you away from it. Hmmm?
Reptiles lay eggs and walk (or slither) away after and NEVER look back. Some eat their young like that old days comedian suggested that humans do. Can't remember his name - am I senile or what?

bobnyce
08-15-2020, 03:21 PM
I had one black racer in my garage a few years ago. When I chased it out it literally attacked me the whole time attempting to bite with no success. Yes, they are aggressive and fast. And, do not get bitten by one even though they are not poisonous they can infect you with nasty bacteria.

sharonl7340
08-15-2020, 03:22 PM
We have 1 (maybe 2 different ones??) and I have christened it Jakie Snakie. I leave him alone and he leaves me alone.

davem4616
08-15-2020, 03:24 PM
I was thinking a .410. But I guess I'll have to scale down when we move to The Villages.. lol


leave the gun, take the cannoli

Stu from NYC
08-15-2020, 03:27 PM
leave the gun, take the cannoli

Snakes like cannoli's?

merrymini
08-15-2020, 04:10 PM
Surprised to hear that it was aggressive. I garden a great deal and have seen them in my flower beds many times and they usually take off. Do not kill them! They are beneficial snakes. That being said do not get bitten either, even tho they are not venomous, I cannot imagine that would be any fun. I have taken to poking around before stepping in with a long stick or tool.

tvbound
08-15-2020, 04:59 PM
Having always lived in colder climates, the summer heat and humidity and snakes are the two things I think will be the hardest for me to get used to. I know that snakes are a benefit in a lot of ways and I will never try to kill them, but that doesn't mean I will be purposely getting anywhere near them either.

tophcfa
08-15-2020, 11:03 PM
Not in residential area, you will be arrested especially in this trying times.

A round of .22 rat shot from a Marlin Golden 39A lever action is not as loud as one nail being fired from a roofing air nail gun, which we typically hear thousands of time just about every day it is not pouring rain outside.

BlueHeronFan
08-16-2020, 05:36 AM
I had an off-site landscape company that told me that Black racers keep rattlesnakes away. Don't know how, whether they eat the eggs, small snakes or what, but they are aggressive yet harmless to us.

Retiring
08-16-2020, 04:04 PM
Is there a snake service in TV that one can call for immediate service?

zmarkp
08-17-2020, 08:48 AM
Is there a snake service in TV that one can call for immediate service?

You can call me. I have a pair of long-handled Bar-B-Q tongs but I'm very expensive.

Ladygolfer93
08-19-2020, 01:42 AM
Well you do have to be careful with some of the irons.

Once upon a time playing in a kind of wet snow hit a golf ball and the head of the 5 iron went further than the ball. The next hole same thing happened with 6 iron.

Called Macgregor and they kind of begged me to send all of the clubs back and they could not wait to send me a top of the line set of irons. Guessing there was kind of sorta some legal issue if someones head got in the way of a flying head.

I, ahhhh, kinda think you were on target with that "guess"..... LOL !

Viperguy
08-19-2020, 08:24 AM
Do you all like rats better? Essential part of their diet along with mice and other small rodents. Don't bother them and they will go away.