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LoisR
08-19-2020, 05:37 AM
Yesterday was the 100th year anniversary of The Suffrage Movement. Not one comment about it? And yes, I'm also at fault. But I can now vote on that.
Dana1963
08-19-2020, 07:11 AM
You’ve come along way
Toymeister
08-19-2020, 09:05 AM
What about September 22, the date Lincoln free the slaves?
I have never heard of that date being celebrated, have you? Maybe we have moved on, wait let me think about that...
charlieo1126@gmail.com
08-19-2020, 09:36 AM
What about September 22, the date Lincoln free the slaves?
I have never heard of that date being celebrated, have you? Maybe we have moved on, wait let me think about that... was jan 1 1863 that is the day they were freed , yes September 22 he signed it but the important day was the day of speech where it went into effect , some states are setting up a holiday hopefully the whole country one day will celebrate this day Sept 22?would be okay
tvbound
08-19-2020, 02:57 PM
was jan 1 1863 that is the day they were freed , yes September 22 he signed it but the important day was the day of speech where it went into effect , some states are setting up a holiday hopefully the whole country one day will celebrate this day Sept 22?would be okay
It should have been done many, many years ago, but I'm not going to hold my breath given today's attitudes by so many on other similar issues. Just the fact that it's only been 100 years since women have had the right to vote, is a travesty in itself and something of which we should all be ashamed. It also speaks to a national conscience, since our founding, of treating women and minorities as second class citizens. Yet, it seems like a lot of old white guys these days would love it, if the travesties of yore were still in effect in our country. I personally just don't get it.
Stu from NYC
08-19-2020, 03:51 PM
It should have been done many, many years ago, but I'm not going to hold my breath given today's attitudes by so many on other similar issues. Just the fact that it's only been 100 years since women have had the right to vote, is a travesty in itself and something of which we should all be ashamed. It also speaks to a national conscience, since our founding, of treating women and minorities as second class citizens. Yet, it seems like a lot of old white guys these days would love it, if the travesties of yore were still in effect in our country. I personally just don't get it.
Since none of us were around 100 years ago why should we be ashamed that it took so long for women to be allowed to vote? Not saying it was right just that it had nothing to do with the people alive today.
And I think a lot of us old white guys were here making a joke.
tvbound
08-19-2020, 04:00 PM
Since none of us were around 100 years ago why should we be ashamed that it took so long for women to be allowed to vote? Not saying it was right just that it had nothing to do with the people alive today.
And I think a lot of us old white guys were here making a joke.
National shame. I think most American citizens are proud that we helped win WW1, yet none of us were around then either. Why shouldn't it work both ways?
logdog
08-19-2020, 04:17 PM
President Trump did celebrate the day by issuing a full pardon to Susan B Anthony.
tvbound
08-19-2020, 04:40 PM
President Trump did celebrate the day by issuing a full pardon to Susan B Anthony.
A publicity stunt.
While Anthony successfully lobbied President Grant to pardon the three male inspectors who were also prosecuted and fined, she never asked for or wanted one for herself.
Eg_cruz
08-20-2020, 05:11 AM
Yesterday was the 100th year anniversary of The Suffrage Movement. Not one comment about it? And yes, I'm also at fault. But I can now vote on that.
You must be watching / reading the wrong news channels was all over my social news
graciegirl
08-20-2020, 05:49 AM
It should have been done many, many years ago, but I'm not going to hold my breath given today's attitudes by so many on other similar issues. Just the fact that it's only been 100 years since women have had the right to vote, is a travesty in itself and something of which we should all be ashamed. It also speaks to a national conscience, since our founding, of treating women and minorities as second class citizens. Yet, it seems like a lot of old white guys these days would love it, if the travesties of yore were still in effect in our country. I personally just don't get it.
Who are the "old white guys" who don't want women's rights?
I think it is wiser not to celebrate getting them and begin using women's rights to find and keep jobs that give power and to use that power to show you aren't just a sissy girl.
When a woman whines about inequality, she usually doesn't want to talk about choosing Art History for a major.
I have either had the good luck to avoid having men in my life who looked down on women, or I made deliberate choices. My female ancestors were strong women of their time and were encouraged and supported by the men in their lives.
I realize that you want to celebrate women getting the vote. Of course they did. They should and they did. They/we have it.
Byte1
08-20-2020, 06:01 AM
It should have been done many, many years ago, but I'm not going to hold my breath given today's attitudes by so many on other similar issues. Just the fact that it's only been 100 years since women have had the right to vote, is a travesty in itself and something of which we should all be ashamed. It also speaks to a national conscience, since our founding, of treating women and minorities as second class citizens. Yet, it seems like a lot of old white guys these days would love it, if the travesties of yore were still in effect in our country. I personally just don't get it.
Get what? Isn't it about time that folks get over living in the past and get on with the future? Tired of hearing about how this GREAT country is so bad and should be "ashamed" for something that happened a hundred or more years ago. Sorry, but I wasn't alive then and do not take credit or blame for a record or history that I had no influence in whatsoever. I do NOT feel ashamed of my country. I am proud of my country and proud (not ashamed) that I had the privilege to serve it.
Time for folks to be proud of what we have become, NOT ASHAMED of what we might have been or what some folks perceive of our past. EVERY country in the world has a past history with blemishes. WE just happen to have improved ours and made our country GREAT and the best in the world.
nick demis
08-20-2020, 06:50 AM
It should have been done many, many years ago, but I'm not going to hold my breath given today's attitudes by so many on other similar issues. Just the fact that it's only been 100 years since women have had the right to vote, is a travesty in itself and something of which we should all be ashamed. It also speaks to a national conscience, since our founding, of treating women and minorities as second class citizens. Yet, it seems like a lot of old white guys these days would love it, if the travesties of yore were still in effect in our country. I personally just don't get it.
Why do you think it is a travesty? Do you realize that 100 years from today, your present standards may be considered disgusting, if they follow your logic? As an atheist, I believe that NO ONE that ever existed in the history of the human race, is or was perfect. If I was religious, than maybe 1 or 2 individuals.
Stu from NYC
08-20-2020, 06:59 AM
Get what? Isn't it about time that folks get over living in the past and get on with the future? Tired of hearing about how this GREAT country is so bad and should be "ashamed" for something that happened a hundred or more years ago. Sorry, but I wasn't alive then and do not take credit or blame for a record or history that I had no influence in whatsoever. I do NOT feel ashamed of my country. I am proud of my country and proud (not ashamed) that I had the privilege to serve it.
Time for folks to be proud of what we have become, NOT ASHAMED of what we might have been or what some folks perceive of our past. EVERY country in the world has a past history with blemishes. WE just happen to have improved ours and made our country GREAT and the best in the world.
Very well said
17362
08-20-2020, 07:07 AM
President Trump did celebrate the day by issuing a full pardon to Susan B Anthony.
Yes. I celebrated that as I read it. Susan B Anthony should’ve been pardoned for her deeds years ago.
I was amazed to learn that never happened in over 100 years. Now that is a lot of short sighted government people that never ever pardoned her. After all women didn’t get the right to vote until after the blacks got their rights.
Girlcopper
08-20-2020, 07:23 AM
Since none of us were around 100 years ago why should we be ashamed that it took so long for women to be allowed to vote? Not saying it was right just that it had nothing to do with the people alive today.
And I think a lot of us old white guys were here making a joke.
Exactly. Move on!
richs631
08-20-2020, 07:30 AM
Yesterday was the 100th year anniversary of The Suffrage Movement. Not one comment about it? And yes, I'm also at fault. But I can now vote on that.
President Trump celebrated the Suffrage movement anniversary. I saw it on Fox. Not being political, just answering the post
Dana1963
08-20-2020, 07:34 AM
“ in 2000, the Supreme Court struck down the provision of the Violence Against Women Act that gave women the right to bring cases of gender-based violence in federal courts. The court held that there was no basis in the Constitution to uphold this provision of the law.” women received the right to VOTE but not equal as a whole.
merrymini
08-20-2020, 08:04 AM
History is what it is, like it or not. I am glad we have gone beyond the limitations of the past. Since we cannot do anything to change it, why not change what we do today? Sad to say, it appears, instead of building, a faction of our country is busy destroying. I think we have enough to take care of today instead of dwelling on the shortcomings of yesterday. I am grateful to the suffragettes who paid an enormous personal price to win these freedoms and am grateful that SBA was remembered by our President.
Mohawksin
08-20-2020, 08:27 AM
Whenever I read about equality of women I remember a t-shirt on a young lady: "Women that want to be equal to men have an inferiority complex."
spjvette
08-20-2020, 08:33 AM
Why is everything that our fathers and forefathers we’re responsible for our fault? Move on.
EviesGP
08-20-2020, 08:46 AM
Women can vote???
Donb0975
08-20-2020, 08:59 AM
Publicity stunt or whatever at least our president did issue the pardon that many other presidents neglected to do.
Stu from NYC
08-20-2020, 09:03 AM
Why is everything that our fathers and forefathers we’re responsible for our fault? Move on.
Considering the world they lived in our forefathers did an incredible job and than we have greatly advanced from there.
History should be considered based on the times those people lived in not based on today.
Heyitsrick
08-20-2020, 09:12 AM
Whenever I read about equality of women I remember a t-shirt on a young lady: "Women that want to be equal to men have an inferiority complex."
So true, lol.
Stu from NYC
08-20-2020, 10:19 AM
Whenever I read about equality of women I remember a t-shirt on a young lady: "Women that want to be equal to men have an inferiority complex."
funny
Byte1
08-20-2020, 10:43 AM
“ in 2000, the Supreme Court struck down the provision of the Violence Against Women Act that gave women the right to bring cases of gender-based violence in federal courts. The court held that there was no basis in the Constitution to uphold this provision of the law.” women received the right to VOTE but not equal as a whole.
Violence is violence regardless of gender OR race. It seems to me that a SPECIAL law for gender based violence would be UN-Constitutional. So, I agree with the Supremes on that. I also do not believe in special "hate" crimes as a category. Assault and Battery or violence of any type should not be based on specialties. Just my opinion. If I was to suggest that I would bash a guy abusing his spouse up side the head if I witnessed such an action, I would probably be sued by his wife or someone else would suggest that I was a chauvinist.
I thought "equal as a whole" would be the same as treated the same, regardless of gender or race. At one time in America, your vote would be based on "white men" and ownership of property. America has progressed.
I do consider our elections to be illegal, though. The Constitution stipulates (mandates) that ONLY citizens may vote in federal elections. There is NO proof of citizenship required [at the polls]. One should have to provide PROOF of citizenship to vote in America. That is why a voter ID card should be mandatory. The honor system is not valid in a country where half the nation has no honor.
Byte1
08-20-2020, 10:50 AM
Whenever I read about equality of women I remember a t-shirt on a young lady: "Women that want to be equal to men have an inferiority complex."
My wife would make me pay dearly if I was to treat her the same as I would a man. She insists on being treated as a "lady" and she deserves it. She may not be a queen of a country, but she is queen of the home domain.
stadry
08-21-2020, 06:39 AM
originally 1 had to own property & pay taxes as a qualification for voting,,, still a decent idea,,, seems these days the 'vote' has become much less respected
Bay Kid
08-21-2020, 06:53 AM
originally 1 had to own property & pay taxes as a qualification for voting,,, still a decent idea,,, seems these days the 'vote' has become much less respected
Voter ID would at least help understand who is voting.
Stu from NYC
08-21-2020, 09:27 AM
Voter ID would at least help understand who is voting.
We should have to show proof we are citizens before being able to vote. Why is it so hard to get people to agree on this.
Aloha1
08-21-2020, 04:05 PM
We should have to show proof we are citizens before being able to vote. Why is it so hard to get people to agree on this.
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Stu from NYC
08-21-2020, 04:31 PM
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Might make it harder to vote early and often though
Velvet
08-21-2020, 08:12 PM
I think that it must have been very hard to upset the status quo for the suffragettes. It was the fear of role reversal on the men’s part that was so hard to over come. Who wants to be second class?
Two Bills
08-22-2020, 03:47 AM
Since none of us were around 100 years ago why should we be ashamed that it took so long for women to be allowed to vote? Not saying it was right just that it had nothing to do with the people alive today.
And I think a lot of us old white guys were here making a joke.
There are a lot of thin skins around these days!
Stu from NYC
08-22-2020, 08:51 AM
There are a lot of thin skins around these days!
Or people who have a guilty conscience about things they had nothing to do with.
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