The Lofts and District 9.

[Bilyclub]

As far as I can tell District 9 has voted to allow the Lofts at Brownwood into District 9.
Does anybody know what the agreement is? Is District 9 not getting the amenity fee in exchange for access to one pool, one pool table, one fire pit, and a shuffle board table?

[Topspinmo]

Lofts residents has full access to villages amenities, but village residents can’t access lofts amenities. Golden deal for the developers.

[Goldwingnut]

To be perfectly clear, neither District 9 nor any other residential/numbered District receives any Amenity Fee, and never has. The residential/numbered Districts do not own the amenities nor the contracts. these are all owned by either the VCCDD (north of CR466), SLCDD (between CR466 and SR44), or the developer (south of SR44 and The Lofts), and the respective owners of the amenities receive the monthly fees paid by the residents; from which they pay their operating costs and expenses for owned facilities, and in the case of the developer owned properties they also have to pay taxes on both the property and income.

The amenities provided at The Lofts are open to all residents of The Villages, just as all amenities in The Villages are open to residents of The Lofts.

This is no different than the arrangement for amenities in the areas south of SR44.

District 9 does receive a maintenance assessment for the 11 acres of property that the Lofts occupy in CDD9, no different that the maintenance assessment paid by any other resident of CDD9. These 11 acres of property being privately owned do not receive any maintenance services from the CDD, just the same as you or I receive no services specific to our properties from our respective CDD. The CDDs provide for the maintenance of the common/CDD owned areas within their boundaries from the annual Maintenace Assessments.

The question of whether The Lofts belongs a part of CDD9 instead of the commercial BWCDD is open to debate, I am a proponent of the latter but the CDD9 Supervisors have decided differently.

[perrjojo]

Thanks Goldwingnut. It’s always nice to have facts, not opinions. I always say, don’t tell me what you think; tell me what you know.

[Madelaine Amee]

To be perfectly clear, neither District 9 nor any other residential/numbered District receives any Amenity Fee, and never has. The residential/numbered Districts do not own the amenities nor the contracts. these are all owned by either the VCCDD (north of CR466), SLCDD (between CR466 and SR44), or the developer (south of SR44 and The Lofts), and the respective owners of the amenities receive the monthly fees paid by the residents; from which they pay their operating costs and expenses for owned facilities, and in the case of the developer owned properties they also have to pay taxes on both the property and income.

The amenities provided at The Lofts are open to all residents of The Villages, just as all amenities in The Villages are open to residents of The Lofts.

This is no different than the arrangement for amenities in the areas south of SR44.

District 9 does receive a maintenance assessment for the 11 acres of property that the Lofts occupy in CDD9, no different that the maintenance assessment paid by any other resident of CDD9. These 11 acres of property being privately owned do not receive any maintenance services from the CDD, just the same as you or I receive no services specific to our properties from our respective CDD. The CDDs provide for the maintenance of the common/CDD owned areas within their boundaries from the annual Maintenace Assessments.

The question of whether The Lofts belongs a part of CDD9 instead of the commercial BWCDD is open to debate, I am a proponent of the latter but the CDD9 Supervisors have decided differently.

Yes, thank you Goldwingnut for people like you who actually know what they are talking about, not just wildly spreading fear and misinformation.

Once again, I have to ask why on earth do you people who continue to spread unsubstantiated rumors about TV continue to live here, if you do; why not cut your losses and move on where you can be happy.

Get it through your head people .... when you buy into TV you are buying a house and a piece of land and that is ALL you own.

[champion6]

Lofts residents has full access to villages amenities, but village residents can’t access lofts amenities. Golden deal for the developers.
Only 50% correct.
TRUE: Lofts residents have full access to villages amenities
FALSE: but village residents can’t access lofts amenities

[Bilyclub]

Yes, thank you Goldwingnut for people like you who actually know what they are talking about, not just wildly spreading fear and misinformation.

Once again, I have to ask why on earth do you people who continue to spread unsubstantiated rumors about TV continue to live here, if you do; why not cut your losses and move on where you can be happy.

Get it through your head people .... when you buy into TV you are buying a house and a piece of land and that is ALL you own.

So questions are not allowed ? It's a fact that District 9 took in the Lofts.

[Goldwingnut]

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[Stu from NYC]

Yes, thank you Goldwingnut for people like you who actually know what they are talking about, not just wildly spreading fear and misinformation.

Once again, I have to ask why on earth do you people who continue to spread unsubstantiated rumors about TV continue to live here, if you do; why not cut your losses and move on where you can be happy.

Get it through your head people .... when you buy into TV you are buying a house and a piece of land and that is ALL you own.

We are new here and have learned a lot in the six month we have been here.

Have heard things and come here to find out how true and what others think.

And in these times when we are forced to be home more than one would like it is good to hear all kinds of opinions and thoughts and great that folks who are knowledgeable can tell us more.

[champion6]

Lofts residents has full access to villages amenities, but village residents can’t access lofts amenities. Golden deal for the developers.

Only 50% correct.
TRUE: Lofts residents have full access to villages amenities
FALSE: but village residents can’t access lofts amenities

I think you need to check again Champion6, you are working from old information.Hmmm. What do you mean? What am I missing?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

So questions are not allowed ? It's a fact that District 9 took in the Lofts. rumors not so much

[Madelaine Amee]

We are new here and have learned a lot in the six month we have been here.

Have heard things and come here to find out how true and what others think.

And in these times when we are forced to be home more than one would like it is good to hear all kinds of opinions and thoughts and great that folks who are knowledgeable can tell us more.

Looking for answers to questions is fine and this is a great chat line for doing that, especially when we have Goldwingnut and Champion 6 to correctly answer inquiries. But, in the case of the Hacienda threads where people who live in the immediate area were terrified of what might happen to their property values and whether they were going to lose a golf course, the rumors and misinformation heightened the fear. There are meetings weekly held by knowledgeable people working for the Developer who can answer with accuracy many of the fears that people have, instead of drawing out the people who see everything the Deveoper does as a conspiracy.

[Jayhawk]

lofts residents has full access to villages amenities, but village residents can’t access lofts amenities. Golden deal for the developers.

WRONG. Again.

[perrjojo]

Only 50% correct.
TRUE: Lofts residents have full access to villages amenities
FALSE: but village residents can’t access lofts amenities
That was the original concept but it was changed.

[Marathon Man]

Only 50% correct.
TRUE: Lofts residents have full access to villages amenities
FALSE: but village residents can’t access lofts amenities

I saw it. The second line is saying that all residents WILL have access. Some are reading it wrong.

[Northwoods]

Yes, thank you Goldwingnut for people like you who actually know what they are talking about, not just wildly spreading fear and misinformation.

Once again, I have to ask why on earth do you people who continue to spread unsubstantiated rumors about TV continue to live here, if you do; why not cut your losses and move on where you can be happy.

Get it through your head people .... when you buy into TV you are buying a house and a piece of land and that is ALL you own.

Some people will always find something to complain about. If they move to a new development, they will soon find something to complain about.

[crash]

Some people will always find something to complain about. If they move to a new development, they will soon find something to complain about.

When you move into a master planned community you know what you are buying into. You would know there were going to be apartments next door. The developer owned the county commissioners so could get the land re-zoned to whatever he wanted That is the problem.

[Madelaine Amee]

When you move into a master planned community you know what you are buying into. You would know there were going to be apartments next door. The developer owned the county commissioners so could get the land re-zoned to whatever he wanted That is the problem.

Unfortunately there are no guaranis in life - other than death and taxes. When we lived our real life we both worked in Boston and found a home in a pretty suburb of Boston with eay access to the city. one small street from us led into a farm, within two years of buying our home the farm was sold to a developer and it became a housing development. Our very attractive and reasonably affluent suburb was changed forever overnight. There are no guarantees in life.

[Bridget Staunton]

Thanks Goldwingnut. It’s always nice to have facts, not opinions. I always say, don’t tell me what you think; tell me what you know.


Thank you sir for the in-depth post

[donfey]

Once again, facts vs. feeeeeeeeelings. Thanks, GoldWingNut.

[theruizs]

Yes, thank you Goldwingnut for people like you who actually know what they are talking about, not just wildly spreading fear and misinformation.

Once again, I have to ask why on earth do you people who continue to spread unsubstantiated rumors about TV continue to live here, if you do; why not cut your losses and move on where you can be happy.

Get it through your head people .... when you buy into TV you are buying a house and a piece of land and that is ALL you own.

I don’t believe the OP was spreading rumors, he/she was simply asking a question. Kindness and tact is always the better approach.

[graciegirl]

So questions are not allowed ? It's a fact that District 9 took in the Lofts.

When this Pandemic is over please sign up for the presentation that The Villages gives monthly about how this place is run. Several new posters are like a lot of new people who move here or think to move here including me. I thought that The Villages was too good to be true.

I thought for sure that someone was trying to pull the wool over our eyes when I first visited here and saw how amazing this place appeared to be. I thought for sure there was a "catch".

Now I have to suffer when I read new people who are thinking they are getting taken some way, some how and other new people who want to change and improve. It helps if new people can go to learn how The Villages works. Offered monthly and nothing at all to do with selling houses.

Every happy Villager sells this place. I am very happy and proud to live here. There isn't any scheme or catch. The developers already have much more than enough money for a very long time. I think they continue to do it because they too have a dream and their dream supports thousands of peoples jobs.

[justjim]

When this Pandemic is over please sign up for the presentation that The Villages gives monthly about how this place is run. Several new posters are like a lot of new people who move here or think to move here including me. I thought that The Villages was too good to be true.

I thought for sure that someone was trying to pull the wool over our eyes when I first visited here and saw how amazing this place appeared to be. I thought for sure there was a "catch".

Now I have to suffer when I read new people who are thinking they are getting taken some way, some how and other new people who want to change and improve. It helps if new people can go to learn how The Villages works. Offered monthly and nothing at all to do with selling houses.

Every happy Villager sells this place. I am very happy and proud to live here. There isn't any scheme or catch. The developers already have much more than enough money for a very long time. I think they continue to do it because they too have a dream and their dream supports thousands of peoples jobs.

A very good post and the District meeting you speak of is an excellent start to begin to understand a Community Development District. In short, it’s unlike any form of Government that most of us have been use to. It is different and a bit complicated. And in the words of that great philosopher Forrest Gump, “I think that’s all I’ve got to say about that.” My hats off to those residents who serve the residents of The Villages in various leadership roles in the Districts. It’s pretty much a thankless job... :ho:

[yankygrl]

As far as I can tell District 9 has voted to allow the Lofts at Brownwood into District 9.
Does anybody know what the agreement is? Is District 9 not getting the amenity fee in exchange for access to one pool, one pool table, one fire pit, and a shuffle board table?
Don’t know the answer to any of your questions but I have one to add - why aren’t the district 10? when you look at location of the lofts and district assignments, they should be district 10. Both Alden Bungalows and Antrum Dell areas are district 10 and they are close to Brownwood as is the lofts. Only reason I can think of I’d less populated in district 9.

[rogerk]

It is my understanding that the amenities at the lofts are available to Village residents if you want to do so.