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cndlou3
08-28-2020, 10:47 AM
Can someone tell me how your amenity fee increase happens? I have had 2 increases this year alone. Have done no improvements. I am not complaining about it just curious how it works. Also, I can't remember when the Trash Rate increase takes place. TYIA

dewilson58
08-28-2020, 10:56 AM
Can someone tell me how your amenity fee increase happens? I have had 2 increases this year alone. Have done no improvements. I am not complaining about it just curious how it works. Also, I can't remember when the Trash Rate increase takes place. TYIA


Call regarding two increases in one year. I doubt there have been two in 12 months.

EdFNJ
08-28-2020, 01:10 PM
Mine has gone up 1x a year about $3 always on my Nov billing the 3 "Novembers" we've been here. Did you just move in here and maybe have some proration from previous owner?

cndlou3
08-28-2020, 01:11 PM
Mine has gone up 1x a year about $3 always on my Nov billing. Did you just move in here and maybe have some proration from previous owner?
No we bought almost 4 years ago

cndlou3
08-28-2020, 01:13 PM
Call regarding two increases in one year. I doubt there have been two in 12 months.
I went back through my bills from LSSA and up until March of last year it had been 145. then went to 151. Aug went to 154 and now the new bill I just received says 155.

dewilson58
08-28-2020, 01:23 PM
I went back through my bills from LSSA and up until March of last year it had been 145. then went to 151. Aug went to 154 and now the new bill I just received says 155.


Like I said in my first post................Call.


My RC state the fee will be adjusted annual with the index.


:ohdear:

Topspinmo
08-28-2020, 01:27 PM
Can someone tell me how your amenity fee increase happens? I have had 2 increases this year alone. Have done no improvements. I am not complaining about it just curious how it works. Also, I can't remember when the Trash Rate increase takes place. TYIA

They got new trash contractors in north starting October. naturally they cost goes up and service goes down. They removed cap this year on amenities Rates so they can raise them anytime they want us residents have no say. I think new areas are 165 and some old areas when up to 159? Mine Was 135 when I moved here 6 years go which don’t include utilities and trash service aNd of course taxes.

J1ceasar
08-29-2020, 06:01 AM
Another reason to throw the "bums out"

graciegirl
08-29-2020, 06:18 AM
Another reason to throw the "bums out"

What bums?

Did you all see the new bridge across the Interstate? Some of my friends watched it being put in place on live video. Now one of the connections between the existing and newer segments is in place but not open to traffic yet.

Increase is based on cost of living. I am not the one who goes to the grocery, but I can see the cost of meat has increased considerably. I saw on the news last night that the country is having a housing boom and there has been a 9% cost in homes.

Please check how much the amenity fees are to the two developments fairly close to The Villages on 441/27

I am very glad we chose to buy here almost 15 years ago.

biker1
08-29-2020, 06:53 AM
Not exactly correct. The cap on the amenities fee was originally put in place as an attempt to make the amenities fee more uniform across The Villages. Obviously it could not remain forever because of inflation. "They" don't raise the amenities fee whenever "they" want to. Your amenities fee increases on the anniversary of when the house was sold (contract signed) and increases by the CPI. However, you are correct in that you have no say, except for the fact that you choose to buy here and the deed restrictions clearly outline how and when the amenities fee would increase. The money you may have saved because of the cap on the amenities fee was essentially a gift.

Regarding the new trash contractors, I don't see a reduction in service. Instead of two trash, one recycling, and one yard debris pickup per week, we will have two pickups per week for combined trash, recycling, and yard debris. Yes, the price for trash is going up, as do almost all services with time.

They got new trash contractors in north starting October. naturally they cost goes up and service goes down. They removed cap this year on amenities Rates so they can raise them anytime they want us residents have no say. I think new areas are 165 and some old areas when up to 159? Mine Was 135 when I moved here 6 years go which don’t include utilities and trash service aNd of course taxes.

RealJudy
08-29-2020, 07:28 AM
The amenity fee is adjusted on the original sale date of the land. It’s based on the national CPI.

Goldwingnut
08-29-2020, 10:02 AM
They got new trash contractors in north starting October. naturally they cost goes up and service goes down. They removed cap this year on amenities Rates so they can raise them anytime they want us residents have no say. I think new areas are 165 and some old areas when up to 159? Mine Was 135 when I moved here 6 years go which don’t include utilities and trash service aNd of course taxes.

Actually, the resident do have a say on the raising of the Amenity Fee and they are protected from any arbitrary increases. There are only 3 ways for the Amenity Fee can go up (explained here The Villages 8/17/20 Construction Update and The Amenity Fee (part 2) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7y3LCmx8A&t=245s)) and none are discretionary.

The Deferral Rate was never a "Cap" it was a deferral of an increase above $155. When the Deferral Rate was not renewed on 1 October 2019, there were two additional actions that could have also happened that didn't.
1) some or all of the deferred rate increases could have immediately been implemented, If you'd had no increase for 3 years then all 3 years of increases could have been implemented on 1 Oct 2019, this didn't happen.
2) some or all of the deferred Amenity Fee could have been billed and collected, if you'd been at the deferral rate for 3 years and had a 3% CPI adjustment each year you had a total of just over $340 in increases that had been deferred that could have been billed and been immediately due, again, this didn't happen.

On 1 October 2018 the Prevailing Rate Amenity Fee went from $145 to $159, the first increase in about 5 years
on 1 January 2020 the Prevailing Rate Amenity Fee went up to $162
Neither of these affected current homeowners unless they purchase a home after these dates. The purchase could be a new home or a resale anywhere in The Villages, as per the deed restrictions.

Utilities, trash fees, and taxes are not relevant to the Amenity Fee.

Barefoot
08-29-2020, 10:10 AM
EdFNJ - Stay healthy, stay safe and PLEASE stay 6+ feet away from me (if you sneeze make that 176.324 feet).
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What you say at the bottom of your posts is hilarious.

bpascani
08-29-2020, 10:11 AM
They got new trash contractors in north starting October. naturally they cost goes up and service goes down. They removed cap this year on amenities Rates so they can raise them anytime they want us residents have no say. I think new areas are 165 and some old areas when up to 159? Mine Was 135 when I moved here 6 years go which don’t include utilities and trash service aNd of course taxes.
Is yours still $135? Our utilities/garbage, etc are not included in amenity either.

KRM0614
08-29-2020, 10:15 AM
Can someone tell me how your amenity fee increase happens? I have had 2 increases this year alone. Have done no improvements. I am not complaining about it just curious how it works. Also, I can't remember when the Trash Rate increase takes place. TYIA
Perhaps some areas do recycling however south of 44 there is no recycling and the garbage pick up is very expensive. Typically the more people the less per household it should be, however not here.

Barefoot
08-29-2020, 10:29 AM
Did you all see the new bridge across the Interstate? Some of my friends watched it being put in place on live video. I'm glad that The Villages gave us the opportunity to watch the live video of the bridge being put in place.
I watched it from Ontario, Canada.

jmdunphey
08-29-2020, 10:33 AM
Same for me. Lived here 5 years. Last 11/2 year went from 149 - 157. I thought there was a cap.

Barefoot
08-29-2020, 10:34 AM
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Barefoot
08-29-2020, 10:41 AM
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Irishheart628
08-29-2020, 10:56 AM
Thank you in advance.
You’re welcome 😉

Goldwingnut
08-29-2020, 11:25 AM
Same for me. Lived here 5 years. Last 11/2 year went from 149 - 157. I thought there was a cap.

There was never a "Cap", there was a Deferral Rate that deferred rate increases above $155/month. This Deferral Rate was no longer sustainable and was removed. it had served its purpose.

Please watch my two videos that explains the Amenity Fee and the Deferral Rate:
The Amenity Fee (part 1) and The Villages 7-26-2020 Construction Update - YouTube (https://youtu.be/RDjafwcRtQg)
and
The Villages 8/17/20 Construction Update and The Amenity Fee (part 2) - YouTube (https://youtu.be/OZ7y3LCmx8A)

PugMom
08-29-2020, 11:28 AM
EdFNJ - Stay healthy, stay safe and PLEASE stay 6+ feet away from me (if you sneeze make that 176.324 feet).
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What you say at the bottom of your posts is hilarious.

and i like what yours says, too! :coolsmiley: it's true