'shoot on-sight any cop that has a weapon drawn on any subject in public' - Chicago

[DeanFL]

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What is our country coming to? Where even a hint of this topic is suggested? Seems as if these 'bad guys' are baiting LEOs to take action. Seen so many News videos of these awful 'violent' areas of the country, with so many "armed with" their cell phones recording - apparently to capture a cop's reaction etc etc.

Awful...Sickening.

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The Chicago Police Department has confirmed the existence of an intelligence alert reportedly sent out by the FBI warning area law enforcement of a pact among street gangs “to 'shoot on-sight any cop that has a weapon drawn on any subject in public'."

The "Potential Activity Alert" from FBI officials was sent out Aug. 26, according to ABC7, which says it has obtained a copy of it.

“We have been made aware of this threat by a law enforcement partner,” a Chicago police spokesperson told Fox News on Tuesday. “The Chicago Police Department takes all threats against officer safety seriously and we will take all necessary measures to safeguard our officers.”

CHICAGO WEEKEND SHOOTINGS LEAVE 10 DEAD, 45 WOUNDED – INCLUDING TWO POLICE OFFICERS


Officers across the US shot or injured during violent weekend
Former NYPD detectives Dr. Oscar Odom and Angel Maysonet react to the six shot and one killed while dining in Chicago and a violent weekend across the country that left five cops shot.

The alert -- which mentions around 36 gangs, including the Latin Kings and Vice Lords -- says "members of these gang factions have been actively searching for, and filming, police officers in performance of their official duties,” ABC7 says.

“The purpose of which is to catch on film an officer drawing his/her weapon on any subject and the subsequent 'shoot on-site' of said officer, in order to garner national media attention,” it added, according to the station.

But ABC7 also said the information is coming from "a contact whose reporting is limited and whose reliability cannot be determined."

The office of Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, when contacted by Fox News, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


Two Chicago police officers were shot while conducting a traffic stop in the city over the weekend, but it's unclear whether that attack has any connection to the FBI’s warning, which ABC7 says is headlined “Pact Made by People Nation Gang Factions to 'Shoot On-Site' Any Police Officer with a Weapon Drawn.”

One of the officers targeted in that incident had to undergo surgery for lung and abdominal injuries and is in serious condition, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. The other was shot in the shoulder and has been released from medical care.

A suspect also has been taken into custody.


Chicago Police Supt. David Brown said Monday that he believes “people are seeking to do harm to cops."

"I think it's bigger than a suggestion," Brown said, according to ABC7. "I think 51 officers being shot at or shot in one year, I think that quadruples any previous year in Chicago's history. So I think it's more than a suggestion that people are seeking to do harm to cops."

[Stu from NYC]

I read about this earlier.

Other than to tell these gangs that anyone showing a weapon will be shot on sight no idea what to do to protect the officers.

[village dreamer]

maybe get the swat teams to cover them??

[davem4616]

this is awful if this is happening

expect more police to take retirement...then these cities will be in a huge mess as they try to recover from inadequate police coverage and skyrocketing budget issues due to unplanned pension payouts

[billethkid]

What happened to the serve and protect part of the oaths by public servants is getting ignored and why?

A direct order by the chief of law and order in the locations ALLOWING this lawlessness to put it to an end.....for some reason is not being given.

Where is the outcry and demand for law and order from businesses and residents of these locations???

Is it not obvious rights and freedoms are being trampled with no actionable enforcement of the law?

Where is the outrage?

The punks, thugs, rioters and looters can be over whelmed and stopped.......but they are not. Why is that?

[Art cov]

Most all cities in America don’t have enough police on their force. Can you imagine being a policeman in the cities today? Mayors in some places do not have their cops back, in fact encourage terrible behavior until they are threatened and rioting comes close to their homes. I recently ran into the owner of an (army/navy type store) he sells camping n survival stuff. He told me that many are joining groups that have a mission to protect their towns n small cities from rioters and those that might attempt to destroy their city. I personally would protect my family and myself from harm but he said many groups he knows of from 6 people to 1500 people have had enough! They will cause no harm to anyone but will protect from gangs and destructive groups who want to cause havoc. He went on to say, stores around the country can sell tons of ammunition and such items if they could get it. I was taken back somewhat as I know he’s a man to be honest and sincere. What could we be in for on our streets? These folks are not the thugs but good people who are organized to protect. They say the police won’t be able to do it. Has anyone heard about all this? I guess I’m in my own little bubble and need to be better informed if this man is right

[bgamble3]

I read about this earlier.

Other than to tell these gangs that anyone showing a weapon will be shot on sight no idea what to do to protect the officers.
If I observed that happen, the shooters would be shot by me.

[Stu from NYC]

What happened to the serve and protect part of the oaths by public servants is getting ignored and why?

A direct order by the chief of law and order in the locations ALLOWING this lawlessness to put it to an end.....for some reason is not being given.

Where is the outcry and demand for law and order from businesses and residents of these locations???

Is it not obvious rights and freedoms are being trampled with no actionable enforcement of the law?

Where is the outrage?

The punks, thugs, rioters and looters can be over whelmed and stopped.......but they are not. Why is that?

Can only hope that voters remember the lack of support for law and order in localities this coming November.

[Fredman]

In Pittsburgh the mayor refuses to back the police he would rather defer to blm

[Number 10 GI]

I am totally disgusted with the way these problems have been ignored. The local governments really cares about their citizens. Extreme sarcasm here.

[kcrazorbackfan]

If I observed that happen, the shooters would be shot by me.

As would by me also. Trust me when I say I would have no hesitation or remorse for doing so.

[Stu from NYC]

As soon as the shooters come close to the mayors house interestingly his/her opinion changes rather rapidly

[davem4616]

As soon as the shooters come close to the mayors house interestingly his/her opinion changes rather rapidly

ain't that the truth....funny how that works huh?

[mamamia54]

In Pittsburgh the mayor refuses to back the police he would rather defer to blm

NY also. Very sad situation

[Stu from NYC]

NY also. Very sad situation

Local elections in November cannot come too soon

[Topspinmo]

Nothing new, why do you think police large cities stand with back turned while retaining officer arresting the suspected criminal? So they don’t get shot in the back. IMO only black cops should respond in black neighborhoods. See how quick the perps get shot and they won’t be able to claim the race card.

[manaboutown]

It is extremely difficult for me to mentally process all that is happening. From what I learned in history classes this seems like the rise of Hitler all over again. Thugs beating up people in the streets, Krystanacht, arson, and more. I find it terrifying.

What I literally cannot understand is why the mayors of these cities and the governors of the states they are in have made no attempt to stop it. Indeed, it appears they are encouraging it.

[mamamia54]

Maybe now, the major of Portland will ask for help. They tried to set fire and burn down his condo building. Imagine how many innocent people could have been hurt or killed.

[Stu from NYC]

Maybe now, the major of Portland will ask for help. They tried to set fire and burn down his condo building. Imagine how many innocent people could have been hurt or killed.

When the politicians are affected by the arson and looting than they will stop approving of it. After all they cannot be inconvenienced can they.

[John41]

Most all cities in America don’t have enough police on their force. Can you imagine being a policeman in the cities today? Mayors in some places do not have their cops back, in fact encourage terrible behavior until they are threatened and rioting comes close to their homes. I recently ran into the owner of an (army/navy type store) he sells camping n survival stuff. He told me that many are joining groups that have a mission to protect their towns n small cities from rioters and those that might attempt to destroy their city. I personally would protect my family and myself from harm but he said many groups he knows of from 6 people to 1500 people have had enough! They will cause no harm to anyone but will protect from gangs and destructive groups who want to cause havoc. He went on to say, stores around the country can sell tons of ammunition and such items if they could get it. I was taken back somewhat as I know he’s a man to be honest and sincere. What could we be in for on our streets? These folks are not the thugs but good people who are organized to protect. They say the police won’t be able to do it. Has anyone heard about all this? I guess I’m in my own little bubble and need to be better informed if this man is right

I have heard of these groups and they train like a militia. They might be needed next year to restore order if police are defunded as some intend.

[mamamia54]

When the politicians are affected by the arson and looting than they will stop approving of it. After all they cannot be inconvenienced can they.

Maybe he will come out and say it wasn’t rioting, the crowd was trying to have “peaceful bonfire”.

[Northwoods]

Maybe he will come out and say it wasn’t rioting, the crowd was trying to have “peaceful bonfire”.

MSM: "It was mostly a peaceful protest."

[JimJohnson]

If I observed that happen, the shooters would be shot by me.

In God we Trust, but :pray:

[Skunky1]

If A civilian/coward shot somebody in the back and they were caught on video they would be in jail immediately. There would be no attempt to white wash what they did.

[ruralgoddess]

The article clearly states that the reliability of the source has not been determined. Dog whistle

[noslices1]

Maybe it’s time to think about “Marshall Law” in these areas where there is so much gang activity and insurrection. Rudy Guliani had New York fairly quiet when he instituted “Stop & Frisk”, but subsequent mayors deleted that and now the city is becoming dangerous again.

[DeeCee Dubya]

I wouldn’t worry about the pension issues because ubiquitous municipal defaults are just on the horizon. And the first thing to be erased will be pension obligations.

[donassaid]

Apparently, BLM uses any action by any color police officer against any black criminal as racist and a reason to inflict violence, looting and burning. These people are not "protesters" but CRIMINALS.

[larbud]

I read about this earlier.

Other than to tell these gangs that anyone showing a weapon will be shot on sight no idea what to do to protect the officers.

A five minute date with an A-10 Warthog! Problem solved ..

[jbrown132]

It is extremely difficult for me to mentally process all that is happening. From what I learned in history classes this seems like the rise of Hitler all over again. Thugs beating up people in the streets, Krystanacht, arson, and more. I find it terrifying.

What I literally cannot understand is why the mayors of these cities and the governors of the states they are in have made no attempt to stop it. Indeed, it appears they are encouraging it.
All Democratic cities and states. Thought these riots would help in the November election. Now it’s backfiring and the narrative is changing. Just politics at its worst.

[Stu from NYC]

MSM: "It was mostly a peaceful protest."

And the fire was they had some marshmellows to toast no big deal.

[Stu from NYC]

If A civilian/coward shot somebody in the back and they were caught on video they would be in jail immediately. There would be no attempt to white wash what they did.

Put yourself in the officers shoes and go thru what he did and lets see if you say the same thing again.

[justjim]

Gangs have been in large cities for years. This isn’t anything new. I’m originally from Illinois and know a little about Chicago. What’s different today is you got the gangs, the police, the peaceful protesters, looters, and outsiders all mixed together on the streets at the same time. Then you have people that think they have the answer and some that want to make it political. There is no one answer. Do you think the Mayors of these cities want this? The Mayors are doing the best they can. It’s not a job I would want for sure. “He has a right to criticize, who has the heart to help.” Abraham Lincoln

[Scorpyo]

Put yourself in the officers shoes and go thru what he did and lets see if you say the same thing again.
Okay let me analyze your statement. First of all, he/she could not fit in the officers shoes and could never do his job. As for someone calling this officer a coward - well, sorry I can't reply to that statement on this site. Secondly, let's imagine this person going through what the officer went through. Suspect resists arrest; suspect has a knife; suspect crawls into car. The only time I would crawl into a car is if I had way too much to drink or I was looking for something. Suspect is told to stop over a dozen times. He was probably reaching for something or appeared to be reaching for something. Cop shoots. The person you responded to, on the other hand, would have probably handled it differently and said (with his/her gun holstered), "sir we're trying to arrest you, how does that make you feel?" And that would have probably been the last thing he/she said. But we would never have heard about that because it would not have made the news.

[VillageLiberal]

Apparently, BLM uses any action by any color police officer against any black criminal as racist and a reason to inflict violence, looting and burning. These people are not "protesters" but CRIMINALS.

According to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (The Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States | Center for Strategic and International Studies (https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states)), White Supremacists' like the boogaloo boys are a larger problem than the BLM folks. It a known fact now, even though we all suspected it, that the "Umbrella Man" at the Minnesota protests, who started breaking windows which lead to fires, was a White Supremacist. They see an opportunity to mingle in with the peaceful protestors and turn it violent. But you won't hear this on Fox News.

According to CSIS "The United States faces a growing terrorism problem that will likely worsen over the next year. Based on a CSIS data set of terrorist incidents, the most significant threat likely comes from white supremacists, though anarchists and religious extremists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda could present a potential threat as well. Over the rest of 2020, the terrorist threat in the United States will likely rise based on several factors, including the November 2020 presidential election"

"On June 3, 2020, federal authorities arrested three individuals allegedly associated with the “boogaloo” movement, a loosely-organized group of extremists preparing for a civil war, for conspiring to cause violence in Las Vegas and possessing an improvised incendiary device.1 Less than a week later, law enforcement officials near Richmond, VA, arrested Harry H. Rogers, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, for driving a vehicle into peaceful protesters. Around the same time, members of a Brooklyn anarchist group urged its supporters to conduct “rebellion” against the government.2 Extremists from all sides flooded social media with disinformation, conspiracy theories, and incitements to violence in response to the protests following the death of George Floyd, swamping Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and other platforms.3"

[skarra]

According to the Center for Strategic and International Studies (The Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States | Center for Strategic and International Studies (https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states)), White Supremacists' like the boogaloo boys are a larger problem than the BLM folks. It a known fact now, even though we all suspected it, that the "Umbrella Man" at the Minnesota protests, who started breaking windows which lead to fires, was a White Supremacist. They see an opportunity to mingle in with the peaceful protestors and turn it violent. But you won't hear this on Fox News.

According to CSIS "The United States faces a growing terrorism problem that will likely worsen over the next year. Based on a CSIS data set of terrorist incidents, the most significant threat likely comes from white supremacists, though anarchists and religious extremists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda could present a potential threat as well. Over the rest of 2020, the terrorist threat in the United States will likely rise based on several factors, including the November 2020 presidential election"

"On June 3, 2020, federal authorities arrested three individuals allegedly associated with the “boogaloo” movement, a loosely-organized group of extremists preparing for a civil war, for conspiring to cause violence in Las Vegas and possessing an improvised incendiary device.1 Less than a week later, law enforcement officials near Richmond, VA, arrested Harry H. Rogers, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, for driving a vehicle into peaceful protesters. Around the same time, members of a Brooklyn anarchist group urged its supporters to conduct “rebellion” against the government.2 Extremists from all sides flooded social media with disinformation, conspiracy theories, and incitements to violence in response to the protests following the death of George Floyd, swamping Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and other platforms.3"


I suspect that our countries addiction to cheap labor is what ultimately leads to all these problems. Whether bringing slaves on boats to pick cotten, or enabling Mexican people to cross the border so they can pick our fruit and vegetables that we all eat, or provide care for our children and elderly, we like cheap labor at whatever the human cost.

I think it's ironic that after doing all that white people complain about the consequences - our new multi-cultural society - and try to rig it so all these non-white citizens are denied the ability to vote by creating new obstacles.

USPS is going down the tubes (my NetFlix mail is now consistently taking 1 day longer to get to me - from 2 days to 3 days) and Social Security is under attack as well (it's now openly being discussed that by 2023 it could be shut down). All the institutions are being dismantled - but big corporations and the rich are enjoying their tax breaks.

Wake up sheeple. We're like frogs sitting in a pot of water that is slowly being brought to a boil.

[rlcooper70]

Pretty sick ... reflection of our society today. May have started as a joke ... saw something about the right to defend one's property "if a man with a gun came onto it do you have a right to shoot him?" And "should a black man feel threatened if a white cop comes onto his property?" .... Partisanship leads us to bad outcomes. And it is being inflamed currently. Very sad.

[GreySkies]

When the politicians are affected by the arson and looting than they will stop approving of it. After all they cannot be inconvenienced can they.

Accurate observation, however it will NEVER happen....

You see, the vast majority of the population that is primarily active in the looting and violence in the name of "justice" (yea, I'll buy that for a $1) have a historical track record in primarily buring, looting and destroying their OWN neighborhoods.

[jimjamuser]

Most all cities in America don’t have enough police on their force. Can you imagine being a policeman in the cities today? Mayors in some places do not have their cops back, in fact encourage terrible behavior until they are threatened and rioting comes close to their homes. I recently ran into the owner of an (army/navy type store) he sells camping n survival stuff. He told me that many are joining groups that have a mission to protect their towns n small cities from rioters and those that might attempt to destroy their city. I personally would protect my family and myself from harm but he said many groups he knows of from 6 people to 1500 people have had enough! They will cause no harm to anyone but will protect from gangs and destructive groups who want to cause havoc. He went on to say, stores around the country can sell tons of ammunition and such items if they could get it. I was taken back somewhat as I know he’s a man to be honest and sincere. What could we be in for on our streets? These folks are not the thugs but good people who are organized to protect. They say the police won’t be able to do it. Has anyone heard about all this? I guess I’m in my own little bubble and need to be better informed if this man is right
Well, we, the whole US, are in a period of social unrest. Unrest and violence is being "stoked" by various groups. The end result is greater sales of guns and ammo. The price of ammo has probably (?) skyrocketed. I, personally, have not changed much, but I do NOT own a small business. That might make me want to "arm up" more and join self-defense groups. But, like anything else there would be a DOWNSIDE to that. Para-military groups can over-react and cause more harm than good. If a particular para-military group COULD (?) maintain purely defensive and minimally violent in their defense positions to protect stores and other businesses, that could be POSITIVE. But, that could backfire since they would not be professionally trained and might get "trigger-happy". As of today, in MOST of the US of A. Civilian militias are NOT yet needed. I will prefer to leave it to the professional Police and, when necessary, the National Guard.

[jimjamuser]

I suspect that our countries addiction to cheap labor is what ultimately leads to all these problems. Whether bringing slaves on boats to pick cotten, or enabling Mexican people to cross the border so they can pick our fruit and vegetables that we all eat, or provide care for our children and elderly, we like cheap labor at whatever the human cost.

I think it's ironic that after doing all that white people complain about the consequences - our new multi-cultural society - and try to rig it so all these non-white citizens are denied the ability to vote by creating new obstacles.

USPS is going down the tubes (my NetFlix mail is now consistently taking 1 day longer to get to me - from 2 days to 3 days) and Social Security is under attack as well (it's now openly being discussed that by 2023 it could be shut down). All the institutions are being dismantled - but big corporations and the rich are enjoying their tax breaks.

Wake up sheeple. We're like frogs sitting in a pot of water that is slowly being brought to a boil.
Good post.

[Kerry Azz]

7 shots in the back?

[Number 10 GI]

I was just telling a friend that I never remember there being such a cultism behind a politician, while I'm relatively young, I don't recall people flying flags from their houses, cars, hanging them in their lania's, etc..., it certainly seems like a cult to me.

It was quite prevalent where I grew up in the mid west in the 50's and 60's.

[VillageLiberal]

Use ridiculous hyperbole much? You didn't answer as to why you believe that it is no problem in ruining a person's business and their life's work because insurance will cover it. Go back and read your post, that is exactly what you said. Again, pretty disgusting.

I actually apologize, I had a couple beers at the Cane Garden Country Club when I responded earlier and on rereading my response it didn't read well. Your point is valid but the question is, in the situation to kill one looter, running away smiling with a television appropriate justice for the crime? Heck we see on videos of groups of people mass looting, should we just setup a firing squad outside of Walmart and shoot everyone who comes running out carrying something? I believe that many here would love to see that, but is that the appropriate justice?

Lets flip the scenario, how about all the farmers that lost their farms due to the tariffs put in place? or all the people who lost their love ones because someone refused to embrace wearing a mask or failed at deploying nationwide testing? Should someone be held accountable because these farmers lost their livelihoods, ruined their businesses or loved ones were lost? It being the action of one person that caused these farmers to lose their farms, it being the action that resulted in these people losing their lives to COVID? should that person be held accountable? Also, how about the 27 trillion in debt? Is wasn't that long ago that it was 15 trillion and people were losing their collective minds, claiming that much debt was destroying our country, where did those people go?

[VillageLiberal]

It was quite prevalent where I grew up in the mid west in the 50's and 60's.

I was born in early 60's so definitely before I was aware of the political cycle, I will have to go back and check it out on the history channel. Certainly seems strange to me here and now.

[coffeebean]

I was just telling a friend that I never remember there being such a cultism behind a politician, while I'm relatively young, I don't recall people flying flags from their houses, cars, hanging them in their lania's, etc..., it certainly seems like a cult to me.

When I was a kid, my father hung a HUGE poster of JFK in our dining room picture window. The poster was nearly as large as the window with a picture of JFK. This is nothing new.

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