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DeanFL
09-05-2020, 07:52 AM
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I've been a member of Facebook for several years now. I use it for entertainment, mainly. Certainly NOT NEWS etc.

I follow one site "Capitalism" - which posts funny cartoons and such.

Opened FB today, and one of Capitalism's posting was of a "Leader in Congress" quoted as making a strong statement. Below it was a Facebook banner and warning from "Fact Checkers" - stating that this quote could not be "confirmed". I like research, so I searched for this quote with the person named. The video link to CNN showed a video of this person being interviewed by CNN and - ACTUALLY SAID THIS.

So, apparently Facebook desires to manipulate NEWS etc to fit their position and desires by their leaders. As with other major apps.

Message is - don't take NEWS on face value - from ANY source. And that 'sources' as Facebook can slant postings (and posters) as they desire, including banning someone.

Here's their info>>>

How is Facebook addressing false news through third-party fact-checkers?

We're committed to fighting the spread of false news on Facebook. We use both technology and human review to remove fake accounts, promote news literacy and disrupt the financial incentives of spammers. In certain countries, we also work with third-party fact-checkers who are certified through the non-partisan International Fact-Checking Network to help identify and review false news.

Reducing the Distribution of False News
Identifying false news: we identify news that may be false using signs like feedback from people on Facebook. Fact-checkers may also identify stories to review on their own.
Reviewing stories: fact-checkers will review stories, check their facts, and rate their accuracy.
Showing false stories lower in News Feed: if a fact-checker rates a story as false, it will appear lower in News Feed. This significantly reduces the number of people who see it.
Taking action against repeat offenders: Pages and websites that repeatedly share false news will see their distribution reduced and their ability to advertise removed.
Providing More Information if you See False News
Providing more context on false news: when fact-checkers write articles with more information about a story, you'll see them in Related Articles immediately below the story in your News Feed
Notifying people when they've shared false news: you'll receive a notification if you try to share a story or have shared one in the past that's been rated false by fact-checkers. Page Admins will also be notified if they share stories rated false.
Giving You More Tools to Identify and Give Feedback on False News
Learn how to spot false news. Knowing what to look out for can help you make more informed decisions about what to read, trust, and share.
Provide feedback on stories you think are false. Let us know if you think a story is false. This is one of the signs we use when trying to identify false news.

davem4616
09-05-2020, 08:22 AM
FB has given a soapbox to a lot of people that should really just sit down and be quiet

When I'm truly interested in getting to "the truth" I don't merely ask my neighbor what they think and march along in lock step...I research it with an open mind
and form my own opinion

when I see someone spouting off in FB, or some 'fact check' on the internet I just scroll right on past

OrangeBlossomBaby
09-05-2020, 08:37 AM
If you aren't allowed to post specifics, then no one can check on this for themselves. Seems your conclusion is a matter of opinion, and not an actual fact. You clicked a link to a video. What was the actual source of the video? How much editing was done with it? Was it just a clip of someone saying certain words, or was it in context with an entire conversation before, during, and after it?

It's easy for someone to post a clip of me saying "I can't stand it!" and then tell everyone that I can't stand my neighborhood.

But it'd also be factually incorrect, since I wasn't talking about my neighborhood, I was talking about bacon-flavored ice cream.

I'll give YOUR assessment a hearty Failing grade. Without context, there is no discussion at all.

Bay Kid
09-05-2020, 08:40 AM
FB is just another controlled media outlet.

justjim
09-05-2020, 09:25 AM
FB to me is like always looking at one cable news network. Cable news networks are full of opinions. Mostly biased. Lots of “gray areas” today. Something can be partly a fact, mostly a fact, a true fact, or not a fact at all. Careful what you think you hear.

Aloha1
09-05-2020, 01:12 PM
Facebook's latest attempt to stifle free speech through it's non-diverse gaggle of SJW millennials is just another reason why I choose to ignore it.

Dana1963
09-05-2020, 01:27 PM
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I've been a member of Facebook for several years now. I use it for entertainment, mainly. Certainly NOT NEWS etc.

I follow one site "Capitalism" - which posts funny cartoons and such.

Opened FB today, and one of Capitalism's posting was of a "Leader in Congress" quoted as making a strong statement. Below it was a Facebook banner and warning from "Fact Checkers" - stating that this quote could not be "confirmed". I like research, so I searched for this quote with the person named. The video link to CNN showed a video of this person being interviewed by CNN and - ACTUALLY SAID THIS.

So, apparently Facebook desires to manipulate NEWS etc to fit their position and desires by their leaders. As with other major apps.

Message is - don't take NEWS on face value - from ANY source. And that 'sources' as Facebook can slant postings (and posters) as they desire, including banning someone.

Here's their info>>>

How is Facebook addressing false news through third-party fact-checkers?

We're committed to fighting the spread of false news on Facebook. We use both technology and human review to remove fake accounts, promote news literacy and disrupt the financial incentives of spammers. In certain countries, we also work with third-party fact-checkers who are certified through the non-partisan International Fact-Checking Network to help identify and review false news.

Reducing the Distribution of False News
Identifying false news: we identify news that may be false using signs like feedback from people on Facebook. Fact-checkers may also identify stories to review on their own.
Reviewing stories: fact-checkers will review stories, check their facts, and rate their accuracy.
Showing false stories lower in News Feed: if a fact-checker rates a story as false, it will appear lower in News Feed. This significantly reduces the number of people who see it.
Taking action against repeat offenders: Pages and websites that repeatedly share false news will see their distribution reduced and their ability to advertise removed.
Providing More Information if you See False News
Providing more context on false news: when fact-checkers write articles with more information about a story, you'll see them in Related Articles immediately below the story in your News Feed
Notifying people when they've shared false news: you'll receive a notification if you try to share a story or have shared one in the past that's been rated false by fact-checkers. Page Admins will also be notified if they share stories rated false.
Giving You More Tools to Identify and Give Feedback on False News
Learn how to spot false news. Knowing what to look out for can help you make more informed decisions about what to read, trust, and share.
Provide feedback on stories you think are false. Let us know if you think a story is false. This is one of the signs we use when trying to identify false news.
Facebook was not designed to FACT CHECK. With the amount of anonymous members. Most of my friends associates and family members no longer use this forum, we call or FaceTime for communication. Mostly do to privacy concerns.

OrangeBlossomBaby
09-05-2020, 03:21 PM
Facebook's latest attempt to stifle free speech through it's non-diverse gaggle of SJW millennials is just another reason why I choose to ignore it.

There is no "freedom of speech" on a private enterprise. People are on facebook because facebook allows them to be there. They have no inherent right to be there. They don't have the right to post there, they don't have the right to buy or sell or advertise there. Facebook may allow - or forbid - any speech it chooses.

DeanFL
09-05-2020, 03:33 PM
There is no "freedom of speech" on a private enterprise. People are on facebook because facebook allows them to be there. They have no inherent right to be there. They don't have the right to post there, they don't have the right to buy or sell or advertise there. Facebook may allow - or forbid - any speech it chooses.
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I AGREE with your comment.

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