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twoplanekid
09-06-2020, 01:34 PM
The following information about the new NSCUDD trash pickup system can be found at the following links as found on the District Web site. All changes will start October 1st.
New schedule for some residents
https://www.districtgov.org/community/PDFs/Sanitation%20Handout.pdf
Answers to some common questions
https://www.districtgov.org/community/PDFs/Solid%20Waste%20FAQ.pdf
kcrazorbackfan
09-06-2020, 02:17 PM
Thanks for the info; getting ready to move to Bradford and it’s one less thing we have to look up.
Bjeanj
09-06-2020, 02:55 PM
Agreed; thanks for the info. I’m just a tad annoyed because it took me awhile to figure out all the Ins and outs of recycling, and now we won’t be doing it.
New Englander
09-06-2020, 03:20 PM
What will happen to items that won't burn like Tin/aluminum cans, glass bottles?
Ecuadog
09-06-2020, 04:18 PM
Thanks for the info. Appreciated.
JoMar
09-06-2020, 04:41 PM
Thanks for your work on this project.
geofitz13
09-06-2020, 04:50 PM
Thanks for this very useful information. We've been wondering about the yard waste issue.
davem4616
09-06-2020, 07:25 PM
Thank you for providing the link
Malsua
09-07-2020, 06:01 AM
What will happen to items that won't burn like Tin/aluminum cans, glass bottles?
Ferrous metals are picked out before they go into the burn chamber with huge electro magnets.
Non ferrous metals are separated out of the bottom ash(what's left after it's burned) with an eddy current separator. An eddy current separator induces a magnetic field in otherwise non magnetic metals and flings them out. It's an interesting machine. There are videos on youtube.
Glass and the rest end up getting buried in landfills. That said, the amount of waste is significantly reduced from what came in the door. What remains is about 5% of what came in.
frog04
09-07-2020, 06:14 AM
Thank you
Bridget Staunton
09-07-2020, 06:15 AM
It said yard waste in bags but it didn’t say type of bags. Do we still use paper yard waste bags
paulajr
09-07-2020, 06:31 AM
It said yard waste in bags but it didn’t say type of bags. Do we still use paper yard waste bags
You can use any bag you want...paper or plastic
Bridget Staunton
09-07-2020, 06:47 AM
Thanks for the work you did to provide this information
SacDQ
09-07-2020, 06:51 AM
There is a video on the district government website that explains the whole process in detail.
rugbyjohn
09-07-2020, 07:03 AM
Thank you very much.
Ldogg21
09-07-2020, 07:21 AM
Can cardboard boxes be put out for pickup or do they need broken down and put in bags?
Uphillputt330
09-07-2020, 07:46 AM
Great information. Thanks
twoplanekid
09-07-2020, 09:21 AM
Ferrous metals are picked out before they go into the burn chamber with huge electro magnets.
Non ferrous metals are separated out of the bottom ash(what's left after it's burned) with an eddy current separator. An eddy current separator induces a magnetic field in otherwise non magnetic metals and flings them out. It's an interesting machine. There are videos on youtube.
Glass and the rest end up getting buried in landfills. That said, the amount of waste is significantly reduced from what came in the door. What remains is about 5% of what came in.
Actually, in the Covanta plant all materials go into the combustion chamber. And, the amount that is left is about 10% of the original amount.
not the Covanta plant we are using but similar operation ->
Experience Covanta EfW Tour in Virtual Reality. Press Alt plus A for accessibility version. (https://www.youvisit.com/tour/covantaclient/91152?pl=v&m_prompt=1)
It' my understanding that cardboard boxes should be flattened but need not be placed in bags. Also, cardboard can be placed out for pickup on any of your trash pickup days.
Malsua
09-07-2020, 10:31 AM
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Actually, in the Covanta plant all materials go into the combustion chamber. And, the amount that is left is about 10% of the original amount.
not the Covanta plant we are using but similar operation ->
Experience Covanta EfW Tour in Virtual Reality. Press Alt plus A for accessibility version. (https://www.youvisit.com/tour/covantaclient/91152?pl=v&m_prompt=1)
So they pull the ferrous metals out after burning, then run it again over an eddy current separator to get the aluminum/copper. The guy in the tour video mentioned it's 10% of the original volume after burning. Then they pull out the metals. So it's less than 10% bottom ash that goes to the land fill. Like 5% :).
twoplanekid
09-07-2020, 10:53 AM
So they pull the ferrous metals out after burning, then run it again over an eddy current separator to get the aluminum/copper. The guy in the tour video mentioned it's 10% of the original volume after burning. Then they pull out the metals. So it's less than 10% bottom ash that goes to the land fill. Like 5% :).
Remember, we are talking about volume not weight so I believe 10% is the closest volume figure. :)
I can ask again although I believe my figure is what I have heard in the past. :icon_wink:
JoMar
09-07-2020, 12:00 PM
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Remember, we are talking about volume not weight so I believe 10% is the closest volume figure. :)
I can ask again although I believe my figure is what I have heard in the past. :icon_wink:
Could you also ask if they run tours when able....sounds like an interesting process to see
And based on the video metals are recycled to some leve.
twoplanekid
09-07-2020, 12:13 PM
Could you also ask if they run tours when able....sounds like an interesting process to see
The NSCUDD board has not been able to tour this plant because of Covid-19 restrictions. Last summer, the board did tour a larger Covanta WTE plant near Tampa.
Once things return to a near normal, both the Covanta WTE plant and our NSCUDD water treatments plants would both be informative/interesting for Villagers to tour.
dadoiron
09-07-2020, 12:27 PM
I toured a Covanta plant in Massachusetts. I should have had an environmental resperator on. Had some breathing issues for weeks after the visit.
The plant are always smelled like a garbage dump in about a five miles radius.
If you tour get a respirator.
Also in Massachusetts lower power rates were advertised and actually occurred with lower collection costs.
Here we seemed to get higher collection cost and no power reduction costs. Lousy political negotiations probably are a result.
Good luck if you might live near it. You'll need it.
New Englander
09-07-2020, 03:34 PM
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Actually, in the Covanta plant all materials go into the combustion chamber. And, the amount that is left is about 10% of the original amount.
not the Covanta plant we are using but similar operation ->
Experience Covanta EfW Tour in Virtual Reality. Press Alt plus A for accessibility version. (https://www.youvisit.com/tour/covantaclient/91152?pl=v&m_prompt=1)
It' my understanding that cardboard boxes should be flattened but need not be placed in bags. Also, cardboard can be placed out for pickup on any of your trash pickup days.
What happens to aluminum cans after the burn?
twoplanekid
09-07-2020, 03:50 PM
What happens to aluminum cans after the burn?
The Covanta plant representative says that aluminum is collected/processed and sold. He claims that this operation is efficient. However, everything that I am told about the Covanta operation is always positive. I hope that my many questions asked at board meetings about Covanta have been honestly answered.
Topspinmo
09-07-2020, 05:13 PM
What will happen to items that won't burn like Tin/aluminum cans, glass bottles?
My have metal separators, Thin aluminum will burn.
JoMar
09-07-2020, 05:59 PM
I toured a Covanta plant in Massachusetts. I should have had an environmental resperator on. Had some breathing issues for weeks after the visit.
The plant are always smelled like a garbage dump in about a five miles radius.
If you tour get a respirator.
Also in Massachusetts lower power rates were advertised and actually occurred with lower collection costs.
Here we seemed to get higher collection cost and no power reduction costs. Lousy political negotiations probably are a result.
Good luck if you might live near it. You'll need it.
How many power companies were involved?
New Englander
09-08-2020, 08:53 AM
The Covanta plant representative says that aluminum is collected/processed and sold. He claims that this operation is efficient. However, everything that I am told about the Covanta operation is always positive. I hope that my many questions asked at board meetings about Covanta have been honestly answered.
Thank You
Paper1
09-08-2020, 06:26 PM
I believe the bottom line is to get the most btu’s from a ton of trash and not to get the biggest reduction in trash volume going to landfill. Energy, or heat if you prefer, is used to produce power not to reduce hard to burn material. IMHO
Jerseybob
09-08-2020, 07:05 PM
Thank you for providing a link to the handout. Easy to read and to share.
dadoiron
09-10-2020, 01:35 PM
How many power companies were involved?
Don't remember. But it was only local power providers that signed on who provided lower passed on costs. It made the news locally so should make it here since Covanta thrives on good publicity.
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