Political Signage on Golf Carts

[mtdjed]

Villagers should be able to display political signage showing their support. However, some carts are displaying obnoxious signs with crude obscene language. Even though we live in a senior community, it would seem that some degree of decency should be used. Certainly not something to respect.

[DeanFL]

Villagers should be able to display political signage showing their support. However, some carts are displaying obnoxious signs with crude obscene language. Even though we live in a senior community, it would seem that some degree of decency should be used. Certainly not something to respect.


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I would NEVER display my preference - heard some stories of vandalism, confrontations, fingers, etc etc.

Bottom line for me - it's a personal decision and choice. And certainly one that IS NOT impacted by other's signs or such.

I DO have a small American flag on my cart roof. 2 reasons - I am proud of my country, and I can easily check wind conditions on the course...
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[Stu from NYC]

Never have seen a golf cart with obnoxious signage

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I just don't understand why people put these BIG signs on the middle of their windshields. That's got to be some kind of hazard, no? Half these cart drivers can't see without a sign taking up 1/5 of their vision, and now they're gonna add the sign to it?

Shouldn't be allowed to put anything bigger than a bumper sticker if it's on the front windshield, and only in one of the corners, or behind the rear view mirror.

[Northwoods]

I just don't understand why people put these BIG signs on the middle of their windshields. That's got to be some kind of hazard, no? Half these cart drivers can't see without a sign taking up 1/5 of their vision, and now they're gonna add the sign to it?

Shouldn't be allowed to put anything bigger than a bumper sticker if it's on the front windshield, and only in one of the corners, or behind the rear view mirror.

So "we" should dictate how big of a sign we can put on a windshield. And where we can put it.
I've seen large posters for both candidates on the windshield of golf carts. I have no issue. People want to proclaim who they support. It's non-violent. I have NO desire to do that, but I respect that everyone has freedom of speech.

[tophcfa]

At least one can put a sign supporting their desired candidate on their vehicle in the Villages and have a reasonable probability that your ride won't get vandalized. In the area were our second home is up north, if you don't support the party of the self proclaimed special people, expect your ride to get keyed.

[Topspinmo]

I just don't understand why people put these BIG signs on the middle of their windshields. That's got to be some kind of hazard, no? Half these cart drivers can't see without a sign taking up 1/5 of their vision, and now they're gonna add the sign to it?

Shouldn't be allowed to put anything bigger than a bumper sticker if it's on the front windshield, and only in one of the corners, or behind the rear view mirror.


I agree anything blocks there view they should be ticketed.

[Northwoods]

I agree anything blocks there view they should be ticketed.

I agree that anything that blocks the view should be ticketed. I tried to Google accidents or tickets in The villages because of political signs. I coudln't find anything.
Have you had better luck?

[Gulfcoast]

We're not in TV, yet, we're out in the middle of suburbia. I've seen plenty of signs in yards and on windshields but nothing obscene, crude/vulgar. Can you describe what the signs were saying? I'm having a hard time picturing a retiree driving around in a golf cart with an "Eff (political candidate's name)" sign but this election is making some people sort of crazy...

[mtdjed]

The purpose of this thread was not to be critical of size but to be critical of the use of obscene words. Saw one today in huge letters saying " FUQK XXXXX". Not specifically a word , but the meaning was clear.

[EdFNJ]

Seriously folks. Put sports team signs on your carts not obnoxious political trash. SURE, YEA, 1ST AMENDMENT, I got it but what is gained by "proclaiming support" for any politician ? We're adults here. Why does it make you feel good? Ya think it's going to change someone's mind? Maybe the wrong way? Why not get a tattoo and put it on your back and drive without a shirt so you can proclaim unending devotion? Why should ANY politician be worth proselytizing for? Proselytizing religion is bad enough but these are POLITICIANS of which 90% are in it for just the power and money. Can you "love" someone so much you need huge signs to prove it? If so why doesn't anyone put signs with their wife or grandkids on the big obnoxious signs? I guess you love politicians more than family? What have politicians ever done for you that they deserve such adulation? This is SICK. Outsiders laugh at what goes on around here. The parades, the political flags, the signs. It's embarrassing for both sides. I dare to say there is nowhere else that is so obnoxiously involved with proclamations of such overwhelming adoration for a bunch of scoundrels like politicians ON BOTH SIDES. Just go vote for your fave. Why do we need this embarrassing show?

Whew. Now I feel better!
The preceding was MY OPINION, YMMV.

[Scott O]

Never have seen a golf cart with obnoxious signage

Well I have and at any given time on certain intersections there is a cart or two parked with huge obnoxious signs, and they aren’t “pro” for who their voting for, it’s derogatory for who they are against and I quite frankly am sick of seeing the individual and usually 1 or 2 cohorts...extremely juvenile behavior. And to park in busy intersections were we are forced to view their pathetic sentiments, is my issue...they need to grow up, it’s a senior community not a teenager hangout...

[Waddling Eagle]

I see a sign that uses vulgar language and I think, why would I vote for anyone whose supporters talk like that?

[Cheapbas]

How about we take ALL political signs down everywhere in TV. You can’t put a tiny white cross in your yard, but a pimped out golf cart is ok?

Take away this political divide and we’d all just be the greatest collection of seniors in the country

[Neils]

Great Idea - mind your own business

[BryanTheGolfPro]

I'll defend your First Amendment right to express your opinion--even though I may vehemently disagree with it. Is this a great country, or what!

[Pillowtalk]

I agree with you. I don’t publicize who I am voting for. We have one neighbor who displays his choice of candidate with signs all over the front of his property. I respect my neighbors so I keep my political beliefs to myself. This neighbor is no longer included into the neighborhood gatherings and we are pulling away from them also. It is stressful to be around them and have to listen to him trash the opposite side even when they are told “No politics”. No more stress for us, goodbye neighbor....their choice.

[Stu from NYC]

If it blocks the drivers view it should be ticketed or at least a warning that next time a ticket issued.

Doubt that anyone changes their vote due to any sign.

[BoatRatKat]

Never have seen a golf cart with obnoxious signage

Lately there's a very nasty sign on a guy's cart at the corner of Morse & 466A. He parks his cart in the grass on the corner and sits there with his crew. I think he's the guy that was sitting up on Morse and 466 a while back and also got punched in a parking lot not long ago.

[stadry]

Fail to see why '1st amendment' even gets a mention in this thread as it ONLY restricts government controls therefore not applicable to golf cart signage. IF the town, county, state, or fed govts were to ban, that would violate the 1st amendment.

[Miguel 1952]

I strongly believe in the first amendment.
But, I wonder if these signs do any good in changing anyone's mind when it's time to vote.

[UseYourBrain]

Signs that say eff anyone or the like say a lot more about the person with the sign that who the sign is about. It would be so nice if everyone could be a decent human being.

[FromNY]

Well I have and at any given time on certain intersections there is a cart or two parked with huge obnoxious signs, and they aren’t “pro” for who their voting for, it’s derogatory for who they are against and I quite frankly am sick of seeing the individual and usually 1 or 2 cohorts...extremely juvenile behavior. And to park in busy intersections were we are forced to view their pathetic sentiments, is my issue...they need to grow up, it’s a senior community not a teenager hangout...
Their grandkids probably are pulling statues down?
Those golf carts parked on various corners are a distraction. Especially on the traffic circles. I see no reason for foul signs. And agree it is OK if your choice to show support
of the candidates. Just wish everyone would be civil and adults.

[Singerlady]

The purpose of this thread was not to be critical of size but to be critical of the use of obscene words. Saw one today in huge letters saying " FUQK XXXXX". Not specifically a word , but the meaning was clear.

Some people have a limited vocabulary.

[Skunky1]

You wouldn’t put those signs on the windshield of your car why would you put them on the front of your golf cart?

[Eg_cruz]

Villagers should be able to display political signage showing their support. However, some carts are displaying obnoxious signs with crude obscene language. Even though we live in a senior community, it would seem that some degree of decency should be used. Certainly not something to respect.
Agree 100%

[Eg_cruz]

I'll defend your First Amendment right to express your opinion--even though I may vehemently disagree with it. Is this a great country, or what!
I agree to Freedom of Speech - Absence of Malice

[mcwood4d]

I see mention of 1st amendment a few times on this thread. As I understand the 1st amendment it provides protection from the government action. If you're so crass and vulgar the 1st amendment does not protect you from "corrective actions" from private citizens.

[graciegirl]

How about we take ALL political signs down everywhere in TV. You can’t put a tiny white cross in your yard, but a pimped out golf cart is ok?

Take away this political divide and we’d all just be the greatest collection of seniors in the country

One is a deed restriction.

The other is a legal choice.

We don't have either. We have a sign on the front window that says we belong to TOTV.

I think I know the one the OP is talking about. Is it parked in an obvious place? Glad he doesn't live near us.

[Moderator]

Reminder...the topic is the act of putting political signs on your golf cart; A number of posts have been removed as they discuss specific political candidates and quickly derail the tone and intent of the thread. If this persists, the thread will be closed.

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[phansen2246]

Should have the same rules for things on your windshield as a car if you are driving on public roads. nothing in your line of sight.

[Judy n Ron]

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I would NEVER display my preference - heard some stories of vandalism, confrontations, fingers, etc etc.

Bottom line for me - it's a personal decision and choice. And certainly one that IS NOT impacted by other's signs or such.

I DO have a small American flag on my cart roof. 2 reasons - I am proud of my country, and I can easily check wind conditions on the course...

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Amen to that! No one has ever changed their mind on who to support based on someone's sign or sticker, especially if profane or disrespectful. We need to fly our flag and stop all this nonsense. Ron

[CarrieOn]

Here! Here!!

[jbrown132]

It’s funny. I know there out there, I see them, but I really don’t see them, or care about them. I know who I’m going to vote for so no sign is going to change my mind. Can anyone out there say a sign or bumper sticker has ever changed there mind to who they vote for? I doubt it.

[Bwolf1]

I think signs are strictly for personal gratification. Putting a sign up for your candidate isn’t going to change my stance anymore than displaying a New York Yankee flag is going to make me a Yankee fan. Go Cubs!

[dewilson58]

Most signs are jus trashy.
Signs will not change anyone's opinion in support of the topic.

[greenflash245]

agree with the newer.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Should have the same rules for things on your windshield as a car if you are driving on public roads. nothing in your line of sight.

That is exactly my point. If a golf cart is parked somewhere, let the offensive signs stand. It will just help me figure out which people to avoid, and that's a good thing.

But when the golf cart is in motion, those signs shouldn't be front and center on those windshields. They are a distraction to the driver, and they limit the driver's view of the road. Small signs (the size of bumper stickers) tucked in a corner should be fine. But not signs that cover the entire bottom half of the windshield.

[diva1]

There sure are a lot of people in TV that want to tell you what to do.

[JimJohnson]

The only reason to advertise your religion or political party is to get a rise from the other side, no matter which one.

[J1ceasar]

George Carlin a comedian had a very funny bit going back 30 years ago the seven words you can't say on TV. Well it should really apply to our TV. Yes they should B decency however you can't legislate morality.

[J1ceasar]

Thank you.

[GreySkies]

I agree with you. I don’t publicize who I am voting for. We have one neighbor who displays his choice of candidate with signs all over the front of his property. I respect my neighbors so I keep my political beliefs to myself. This neighbor is no longer included into the neighborhood gatherings and we are pulling away from them also. It is stressful to be around them and have to listen to him trash the opposite side even when they are told “No politics”. No more stress for us, goodbye neighbor....their choice.

I find it VERY hard to believe that you allow a single neighbor to "trash talk" your political opinions or that you refrain from discussing political agenda. In the short time that I have been in TV the ONE thing I have learned is that the VAST MAJORITY of people have absolutely no problems voicing their opinions regardless of the situation, especially if its political related.

I think what is really going on in your block is that your neighbor does not agree with the majority of neighbors so because he/she/it has a difference of opinion you now exclude them, such an immature reaction.. IMO.

[J1ceasar]

Take a clue from a great statesman :
"I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend"

Thomas Jefferson

[J1ceasar]

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend
Thomas jefferson

[Madelaine Amee]

I agree with you. I don’t publicize who I am voting for. We have one neighbor who displays his choice of candidate with signs all over the front of his property. I respect my neighbors so I keep my political beliefs to myself. This neighbor is no longer included into the neighborhood gatherings and we are pulling away from them also. It is stressful to be around them and have to listen to him trash the opposite side even when they are told “No politics”. No more stress for us, goodbye neighbor....their choice.

I could have written your post. Our neighborhood is very quiet and probably, very Republican, but ones political preference is never discussed and we all get along really well. We had a new couple move into our very established small area this past year and immediately hung out their mile long streamers showing their political preference. We are all polite to them, but nobody actually engages them in conversation because you will never get away. I am sure it must be uncomfortable for them and they may not stay too long, but it is a problem that did not need to be.

[J1ceasar]

I am really amazed and how childish some of these seniors Act. If you don't like an opinion, or a sign or comment on this board simply please skip it if you or so agitated by something maybe it's time to go on medication. Our Nation was built on new ideas different than those of Great Britain that we should have more rights and self governance then letting a king tell us what to do . go read your history books and understand what a difference of opinion is all about. When the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights or written it was great innovation and yet you didn't hear complaints and I don't want to hear your side of the story these men were great thinkers and we have them to appreciate our freedoms today

[rlcooper70]

Crude Obscene Signs on Golfcarts ..... some would say that any sign with a particular name on it is obscene ... is that what you mean?

[rlcooper70]

Considering what Jefferson actually did to destroy Hamilton ... that quote seems to have been sarcastic.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I am really amazed and how childish some of these seniors Act. If you don't like an opinion, or a sign or comment on this board simply please skip it if you or so agitated by something maybe it's time to go on medication. Our Nation was built on new ideas different than those of Great Britain that we should have more rights and self governance then letting a king tell us what to do . go read your history books and understand what a difference of opinion is all about. When the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights or written it was great innovation and yet you didn't hear complaints and I don't want to hear your side of the story these men were great thinkers and we have them to appreciate our freedoms today
I think you need to re-read some history. You don't seem to understand WHY the Bill of Rights was written and WHY the USA felt the need to declare its independence from Britain.

Hint: It had to do with complaints against the government resulting in war.

[J1ceasar]

Good statement" I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend"

Thomas Jefferson .

Excellent thought for the day.

I thought I had friends till they dropped us .

[Jpressley]

Check out the Amelia pool parking lot.

[MandoMan]

Seriously folks. Put sports team signs on your carts not obnoxious political trash. SURE, YEA, 1ST AMENDMENT, I got it but what is gained by "proclaiming support" for any politician ? We're adults here. Why does it make you feel good? Ya think it's going to change someone's mind? Maybe the wrong way? Why not get a tattoo and put it on your back and drive without a shirt so you can proclaim unending devotion? Why should ANY politician be worth proselytizing for? Proselytizing religion is bad enough but these are POLITICIANS of which 90% are in it for just the power and money. Can you "love" someone so much you need huge signs to prove it? If so why doesn't anyone put signs with their wife or grandkids on the big obnoxious signs? I guess you love politicians more than family? What have politicians ever done for you that they deserve such adulation? This is SICK. Outsiders laugh at what goes on around here. The parades, the political flags, the signs. It's embarrassing for both sides. I dare to say there is nowhere else that is so obnoxiously involved with proclamations of such overwhelming adoration for a bunch of scoundrels like politicians ON BOTH SIDES. Just go vote for your fave. Why do we need this embarrassing show?

Whew. Now I feel better!
The preceding was MY OPINION, YMMV.

You are right. I would NEVER vote for ANY candidate because of a bumper sticker or lawn sign. Where a lawn sign might prove useful is in advertising some candidate I haven’t heard of for some office that isn’t often in the news, such as dog-catcher. I have never even heard of anyone voting for a different presidential candidate because of a sticker or sign. As for television advertising, I figure that an ad against a candidate is likely to be a lie or exaggerated, and so is an ad in favor of a candidate, no matter which party.

Maybe signs and bumper stickers serve a purpose similar to, say, wearing articles of clothing with a team name on them. They let us recognize other people supporting our team, so we can wave, throw out encouraging words, have things in common. Maybe no one seriously thinks those big signs change people’s minds.

Maybe we should have secret hand gestures that indicate our side. (Some people use hand gestures to salute people on opposing sides, but they are rude.) Sure, we have thumbs up signs and ok signs. I use those all the time. But maybe we should have signs like those secret Masonic hand gestures. Maybe we should have secret red or blue or green handshakes! Oh, wait, we don’t shake hands anymore. Hey, how about a V sign made with the second and third fingers to indicate donkey ears and a similar sign with second and third fingers curved up to indicate elephant tusks?

[meridian5850]

How about we take ALL political signs down everywhere in TV. You can’t put a tiny white cross in your yard, but a pimped out golf cart is ok?

Take away this political divide and we’d all just be the greatest collection of seniors in the country

There's this thing called the First Amendment to the Constitution. You know, that founding document of our nation? I'll bet there is no political signage in Venezuela, Cuba, or North Korea. You could always move to where the citizens have very few, if no, rights...

[Scorpyo]

I strongly believe in the first amendment.
But, I wonder if these signs do any good in changing anyone's mind when it's time to vote.
I think for some they do. If the sign supports your candidate some would give a thumbs up or a peace sign. If the sign disparages your candidate some would give a half a peace sign. So, no change there. However, if you're an independent a really ugly sign might just be the impetus to go against haters who brandish those signs and vote the other way. I don't know about others but hateful rhetoric does nothing but solidify my choice. Give me facts, not rumors or opinions and then I might be inclined to change my position.

[doodles]

I agree you have a right to display your political signs but you couldn’t put some of these signs on your car windshield by law and shouldn’t put them on your cart windshield. It’s blocking you view which is dangerous

[dennisgavin]

Let's get back to the original point. It is the vulgarity not the fact of having a sign. I too object to the verbiage because of it's vulgarity.
I have been tempted to call police because of it. Not the choice of candidate.

[allsport]

Freedom of speech permits anything you want on your own property. You cannot put your behavioral expectations on other people's behavior. What is offense to you may actually be facts to those who do the research.

[allsport]

Your behavioral expectations do not matter to me. What is vulgar to you may merely be the truth. Did you forget the first amendment? Freedom of speech is alive and well and that does not matter what you may think about the speech. The police will laugh at your call.

[JBarracks]

Seriously folks. Put sports team signs on your carts not obnoxious political trash. SURE, YEA, 1ST AMENDMENT, I got it but what is gained by "proclaiming support" for any politician ? We're adults here. Why does it make you feel good? Ya think it's going to change someone's mind? Maybe the wrong way? Why not get a tattoo and put it on your back and drive without a shirt so you can proclaim unending devotion? Why should ANY politician be worth proselytizing for? Proselytizing religion is bad enough but these are POLITICIANS of which 90% are in it for just the power and money. Can you "love" someone so much you need huge signs to prove it? If so why doesn't anyone put signs with their wife or grandkids on the big obnoxious signs? I guess you love politicians more than family? What have politicians ever done for you that they deserve such adulation? This is SICK. Outsiders laugh at what goes on around here. The parades, the political flags, the signs. It's embarrassing for both sides. I dare to say there is nowhere else that is so obnoxiously involved with proclamations of such overwhelming adoration for a bunch of scoundrels like politicians ON BOTH SIDES. Just go vote for your fave. Why do we need this embarrassing show?

Whew. Now I feel better!
The preceding was MY OPINION, YMMV.

Well said, my thought exactly :mademyday:

[Girlcopper]

So "we" should dictate how big of a sign we can put on a windshield. And where we can put it.
I've seen large posters for both candidates on the windshield of golf carts. I have no issue. People want to proclaim who they support. It's non-violent. I have NO desire to do that, but I respect that everyone has freedom of speech.
Exactly. Youre not going to like everything you see so you dont like it? Dont look!

[lee60car]

Villagers should be able to display political signage showing their support. However, some carts are displaying obnoxious signs with crude obscene language. Even though we live in a senior community, it would seem that some degree of decency should be used. Certainly not something to respect.
Golf cart signage
And people wonder why the younger generation is out of control - oh, they learned it from their parents / grandparents.

[davem4616]

I don't mind the signage (and it won't influence my vote)...however I don't believe that I've seen any offensive language on a golf cart either

...but then again, as the old WWII song goes "we don't get around much anymore"

[dadoiron]

Never have seen a golf cart with obnoxious signage
STU from NYC
Drive on Morse towards 466 going toward 441. You will see them at that corner near Hacienda villas. Unless your talking about being from NYC and you never hear a word that was offensive?

[Nevermore]

How about we take ALL political signs down everywhere in TV. You can’t put a tiny white cross in your yard, but a pimped out golf cart is ok?

Take away this political divide and we’d all just be the greatest collection of seniors in the country

I completely agree with you. They tiny cross should have been allowed. I feel sorry for the person who reported it!

My neighbor has lots of lawn ornaments and designs. Everyone minds their own business and no one freaks out about violations.

[Nevermore]

Both sides have crosssed the line. Your blinders are on.

[Giolinh]

Totally concur. Great to support something YOU really believe in. But, what kind of devious mind viciously and salaciously slanders with utter disgusting words something they DON"T believe in? Answer=Mental Derangement

[Carla B]

Golf cart signage
And people wonder why the younger generation is out of control - oh, they learned it from their parents / grandparents.

And there you have it, the crux of the matter.

[Gulfcoast]

Let's get back to the original point. It is the vulgarity not the fact of having a sign. I too object to the verbiage because of it's vulgarity.
I have been tempted to call police because of it. Not the choice of candidate.

This. There is a presidential election every 4 years and every 4 years people place political signs in their yards, bumper stickers on their cars, banners on their golf carts, etc. Normal political signs are not the problem.

The problem is with those who choose to articulate their views with obscene, crude, offensive language and images. I really think that their goal is to create such a stir that ALL political signs get banned which would be ridiculous.

[EviesGP]

I agree on the vulgarity. As for the size of the sign(s), as long as it's not blocking their view, it's their choice. Which, BTW, the signs should not obstruct their straight ahead view, like vehicles, not the lower part of the windshield(which is your dashboard height in a vehicle)?!

[dewilson58]

And there you have it, the crux of the matter.




All my positive attributes are to the credit of my parents' efforts.
All my dumb-sh^t items are mine, all mine.

[Lottoguy]

I agree, the days of putting on even a bumper sticker are gone forever. Not worth it.

[jebartle]

. Yes they should B decency however you can't legislate morality.[/QUOTE]

Hmmmmm!!!!

[Elmartin3]

I totally agree. Yesterday I say a Biden / Harris sign. How obscene. All kidding aside respect being decent is something that has been forgotten in the name of tolerance. We don't have to accept this behavior as their right.

[PugMom]

At least one can put a sign supporting their desired candidate on their vehicle in the Villages and have a reasonable probability that your ride won't get vandalized. In the area were our second home is up north, if you don't support the party of the self proclaimed special people, expect your ride to get keyed.

omg, you are sooo correct! we didn't dare put 1 on the car, it might get stripped as we sleep :icon_wink:

[Number 10 GI]

Never have seen a golf cart with obnoxious signage

I have, a group was on the corner of 466A and Morse Blvd. Right out where little children could see it while riding by in a car. Disgusting, sick people with no morals or respect for decent people.

[Number 10 GI]

We're not in TV, yet, we're out in the middle of suburbia. I've seen plenty of signs in yards and on windshields but nothing obscene, crude/vulgar. Can you describe what the signs were saying? I'm having a hard time picturing a retiree driving around in a golf cart with an "Eff (political candidate's name)" sign but this election is making some people sort of crazy...

I don't know if the kind of language I saw would be permitted on this forum.

[DeanFL]

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[Number 10 GI]

I don't know if the kind of language I saw would be permitted on this forum.

Some people have a limited vocabulary.

And limited intelligence.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Freedom of speech permits anything you want on your own property. You cannot put your behavioral expectations on other people's behavior. What is offense to you may actually be facts to those who do the research.

Freedom of speech is one thing, but when you buy in this community, you agree to deed restrictions and other rules. I suppose that The Villages could institute a rule of no vulgarity on golf carts but I think that those of us that live here would be grandfather in.

[jojo]

I detest the large political flags that are in our neighborhood. We actually have them for different political views. However, they truly detract from the beautiful and relaxing sense one gets when traversing the neighborhoods.

[KRM0614]

What does a senior community have to do with it? If political signage is allowed then criticism of the community power grab on costs here should be as well!

[LFashvilletv]

You are absolutely right! Perfectly stated.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

What does a senior community have to do with it? If political signage is allowed then criticism of the community power grab on costs here should be as well!

It has nothing to do with it being a senior community. Many communities have deed restrictions. My sister lives in a community in New Hampshire that is not age restricted and there are certain rules they have to abide by. When you bought your house, you signed papers agreeing to abide by certain rules. You essentially agreed in writing to give up some of you freedoms.

[Travelingal702]

Villagers should be able to display political signage showing their support. However, some carts are displaying obnoxious signs with crude obscene language. Even though we live in a senior community, it would seem that some degree of decency should be used. Certainly not something to respect.
Low class people can only speak in low class language!

[Villagesgal]

So "we" should dictate how big of a sign we can put on a windshield. And where we can put it.
I've seen large posters for both candidates on the windshield of golf carts. I have no issue. People want to proclaim who they support. It's non-violent. I have NO desire to do that, but I respect that everyone has freedom of speech.
A golf cart must follow the rules of the road just as a car and can be ticketed just as a car. The law for motor vehicles states that you cannot obstruct your view out of the windshield by putting anything on the windshield, why should it be different for golf carts? Just saying.

[Astron]

I see mention of 1st amendment a few times on this thread. As I understand the 1st amendment it provides protection from the government action. If you're so crass and vulgar the 1st amendment does not protect you from "corrective actions" from private citizens.

Exactly what form would your actions take? If it is proportional, it would be your own sign, not a verbal rant or physical assault, I hope. If you don’t like a sign, just look away. We need to stop the verbal and physical violence that has become an acceptable political action. United we stand, divided we fall.

[MDLNB]

I agree that vulgar language only incites and should not be displayed in America's Friendliest Hometown. However, regardless of how nasty a person is, or how obnoxious, spiteful, vindictive, etc that person still has the right to display his/her stupid sign. I have no problem with political posters being displayed ANYWHERE, except where forbidden by statute or deed restriction. I doubt if a vulgar sign would convince me to vote for a particular candidate.
Like I said, display your signage where you wish. Stay out of my business and I will stay out of yours. If you choose to cover your windshield and you have an accident, have fun explaining your way out of it......even if you were in the right.
GOD bless America and the Freedom the Constitution allows us.

[Villageswimmer]

Seriously folks. Put sports team signs on your carts not obnoxious political trash. SURE, YEA, 1ST AMENDMENT, I got it but what is gained by "proclaiming support" for any politician ? We're adults here. Why does it make you feel good? Ya think it's going to change someone's mind? Maybe the wrong way? Why not get a tattoo and put it on your back and drive without a shirt so you can proclaim unending devotion? Why should ANY politician be worth proselytizing for? Proselytizing religion is bad enough but these are POLITICIANS of which 90% are in it for just the power and money. Can you "love" someone so much you need huge signs to prove it? If so why doesn't anyone put signs with their wife or grandkids on the big obnoxious signs? I guess you love politicians more than family? What have politicians ever done for you that they deserve such adulation? This is SICK. Outsiders laugh at what goes on around here. The parades, the political flags, the signs. It's embarrassing for both sides. I dare to say there is nowhere else that is so obnoxiously involved with proclamations of such overwhelming adoration for a bunch of scoundrels like politicians ON BOTH SIDES. Just go vote for your fave. Why do we need this embarrassing show?

Whew. Now I feel better!
The preceding was MY OPINION, YMMV.


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[Love2Swim]

At least one can put a sign supporting their desired candidate on their vehicle in the Villages and have a reasonable probability that your ride won't get vandalized. In the area were our second home is up north, if you don't support the party of the self proclaimed special people, expect your ride to get keyed.

Don’t kid yourself, it happens here too.

[Red Rose]

I agree. The vulgarity is atrocious and unnecessary. I see one cart in particular over and over again. That person is also very confrontational. Not a good representative of The Villages.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Signs on cars these days only open yourself up to ridicule or worse vandalism’s I believe these stickers are all about look at me instead of whose on the sticker . I feel like that about the little white crosses gee look at me I’m a better Christian then you. My mother went to catholic mass her whole life, she didn’t preach to people , didn’t have to have a sign in the yard , and respected all people whatever race , gender or religion lots of people here could have learned a lot from my mom. If you ever see old film of Martin Luther King marches , my mother is a pretty middle aged dark haired white woman sometimes in first or second line in marches . I guess now she would be branded a radical Marxist by many villagers

[DIver0258]

We have seen the type signs the OP is speaking of. I don’t allow it to bother me. The reason I retired here is to enjoy myself. We follow the deed restrictions, our former neighborhood covenants were much stricter. I fly beneath the radar, political, religious, & deed restrictions to name a few. If something offends me I ignore it. Why make yourself miserable over others views!

[Taltarzac725]

Serenity Prayer - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer)

Kind of like spitting in the wind and hoping it does not come back and hit you in the face.

[Gulfcoast]

I agree that vulgar language only incites and should not be displayed in America's Friendliest Hometown. However, regardless of how nasty a person is, or how obnoxious, spiteful, vindictive, etc that person still has the right to display his/her stupid sign. I have no problem with political posters being displayed ANYWHERE, except where forbidden by statute or deed restriction. I doubt if a vulgar sign would convince me to vote for a particular candidate.
Like I said, display your signage where you wish. Stay out of my business and I will stay out of yours. If you choose to cover your windshield and you have an accident, have fun explaining your way out of it......even if you were in the right.
GOD bless America and the Freedom the Constitution allows us.

Yes, display all the political signs that you may want to but I'm going to have to draw the line at obscenities. At some point that stops being free speech and more about disturbing the peace, if not downright harassment. If you can't communicate your point without using profanities then you don't have much of a point to begin with. You are simply trying to tick people off to get reactions. Might as well hold up a sign saying that you are a mentally deranged jerk because that is exactly how you come across - hostile and extremely rude.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

With regard to putting large signs on your windshield. It obstructs your view and is agains the law. According to the Motor Vehicle "No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any sign, poster or other non transparent material upon the front wndshield, side wings, or side or rear Windows of such vehicle which material obstructs or impairs the drivers view of the highway or any intersecting highway" . remember you are considered a motor vehicle.

[Ecd1810]

Well I have and at any given time on certain intersections there is a cart or two parked with huge obnoxious signs, and they aren’t “pro” for who their voting for, it’s derogatory for who they are against and I quite frankly am sick of seeing the individual and usually 1 or 2 cohorts...extremely juvenile behavior. And to park in busy intersections were we are forced to view their pathetic sentiments, is my issue...they need to grow up, it’s a senior community not a teenager hangout...
It’s also interesting to note that there are no American flags displayed as well as no positive message.

[hotdog]

Yes we live in a senior community but there are still some sophomores among us.

[Madelaine Amee]

It is all a complete waste of time. If you have not decided who ou are going to vote for by now, then you probably should not be oting at all.

But, that said, I do believe this interminable pandemic shut down is gradually driving people who are not wound too tightly to begin with, into early dementia or senility.

[duffysmom]

:bigbow::bigbow:Seriously folks. Put sports team signs on your carts not obnoxious political trash. SURE, YEA, 1ST AMENDMENT, I got it but what is gained by "proclaiming support" for any politician ? We're adults here. Why does it make you feel good? Ya think it's going to change someone's mind? Maybe the wrong way? Why not get a tattoo and put it on your back and drive without a shirt so you can proclaim unending devotion? Why should ANY politician be worth proselytizing for? Proselytizing religion is bad enough but these are POLITICIANS of which 90% are in it for just the power and money. Can you "love" someone so much you need huge signs to prove it? If so why doesn't anyone put signs with their wife or grandkids on the big obnoxious signs? I guess you love politicians more than family? What have politicians ever done for you that they deserve such adulation? This is SICK. Outsiders laugh at what goes on around here. The parades, the political flags, the signs. It's embarrassing for both sides. I dare to say there is nowhere else that is so obnoxiously involved with proclamations of such overwhelming adoration for a bunch of scoundrels like politicians ON BOTH SIDES. Just go vote for your fave. Why do we need this embarrassing show?

Whew. Now I feel better!
The preceding was MY OPINION, YMMV.

[Topspinmo]

I agree that anything that blocks the view should be ticketed. I tried to Google accidents or tickets in The villages because of political signs. I coudln't find anything.
Have you had better luck?

So, that don’t mean there wasn’t or weren’t, windshields shouldn’t be billboards for anything. There enough blind spots without creating more from stupid sign what ever it says.

[Scorpyo]

When I see a sign that says “So and So 2020” or The Other So and So 2020”, what it tells me is that they believe their So and So is better suited to run the country and the other one is not. It’s sort of like a peaceful protest that’s kind of like saying “that person is bad we need our person in office”. We may not agree with that peaceful protest but we accept that it’s their right. Now, the lowlifes that use obscenities and vandalize other peoples’ property are what I view as wannabee anarchists. They’ll do whatever they can to push your buttons short of actual violence probably because they don’t have the, you know what to do so. Of course they would probably welcome a violent response from you. I’m sure they have their civil attorney on speed-dial. So, don’t let them push your buttons or play their game. If you really want to take them on do so in November. If your candidate wins you will have put it to them.