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daffydill
08-15-2010, 04:37 AM
My husband and I are over 55 years old. If we were to buy a home in TV would our 18 yr old daughter be allowed to live with us year round? If something was to happen to us, and she would only be in her 20's or 30's would she be able to inherit the house and own and live there?

mulligan
08-15-2010, 06:48 AM
You can only be a permanent resident if you are over 19. Under 19, only 30 days per year. Yes, she can inherit and own at any age, but not reside until 19. I may be wrong, but this is how I read it.

Whalen
08-15-2010, 08:18 AM
Why would you want to move an eighteen year old to a retirement community?

rjm1cc
08-15-2010, 09:50 AM
Good question, I wondered the same thing. If I lived in TV and at some point one of my under 55 children wanted to move in to help me on a daily basis could they do it.
I think there are also several villiages that are not restricted to over 55.

Ohiogirl
08-15-2010, 10:50 AM
Talk to some of the servers in restaurants and other places. There are lots of college age or post high school age kids in TV who live for now with parent(s). There are lots of these kids everywhere, especially with the current economy.

A server at Mallory Hill told our group that he was establishing Florida residency (he and his parents had just moved a few months before) so he could pay in-state tuition and Leesburg Comm College (I think that was the one he mentioned), and would probably still live at home for at least a couple of years while he went to school.

I think it will happen more and more as the youngest baby boomers and beyond start retiring. They are more likely to have delayed having their kids until their 30s (or beyond, God help them), and thus their kids won't be sprung from the nest until their parents are sometimes in their 60s.

Guess that's maybe a good reason to make the adult pools 30 and over - I used to wonder about the age cutoff (why 30 and not 18 or 19)? If I were 25 I wouldn't want to hang out ALL the time with us geezers, and we geezers usually don't want to hang out ALL the time with the 20 somethings.

By the way, the ones who live there all kind of know where to hang out with the other regular residents their age after work/school hours. I think that's kind of neat - another subculture, just like the rest of us have our regular groups and hangouts after awhile.

skip0358
08-15-2010, 12:23 PM
You live here, your child is away at college and come summertime. Are they allowed to come here for the summer or does the 30 day rule come into play?

daffydill
08-15-2010, 12:38 PM
In response to the person who said "why would you move an 18 yr old to a retirement communuty?" My daughter is a freshman in college. Even though she was an honor student all through high school, sometimes college doesn't work out as expected. Its nice to know she would have a home to come to.

Pturner
08-15-2010, 12:42 PM
You live here, your child is away at college and come summertime. Are they allowed to come here for the summer or does the 30 day rule come into play?

Unless the child is older than 19, the 30-day rule applies.

redwitch
08-15-2010, 03:01 PM
From my understanding, if the child does not live with you, then the 30-day rule applies for visits. My guess would be that if your home is now their permanent resident address and if you get them an ID card, then the 30-day rule would not be applicable. However, if their permanent resident address is not in TV, then the 30-day rule would apply. You might want to call about college-age kids staying for the summer.

paulandjean
08-15-2010, 03:40 PM
or just do not say anything.

Bogie Shooter
08-15-2010, 04:22 PM
or just do not say anything.

Would you want that to apply to all the rules?

JimJoe
08-15-2010, 05:49 PM
I love the villages but this 19 yr old rule must have some exceptions. If the child does not use the amenities, is it really that big of thing?
How about a child who is handicapped or recovering from an injury, or in desperate financial situation?
Has anyone ever heard of this rule being enforced?

dog friendly
08-15-2010, 05:50 PM
The 30 day rule is not true. You must gat a 30 day pass but you can renew it every 30 days....so if a child under 19 wants to stay the summer they can do so as long as you get the 30 day pass.

dog friendly
08-15-2010, 05:56 PM
you can get a 30 day pass renewed as many times as you need, no rule that states they can only stay 30 days

graciegirl
08-15-2010, 06:02 PM
I believe that this is a deed restriction.

Like no 12 statues in your front yard.

dog friendly
08-15-2010, 06:34 PM
No not a rule...

chuckinca
08-15-2010, 06:53 PM
Quoted from Orange Blossom Hills Declaration of Restrictions:

"2.18 No children will be permitted to live in the Subdivision under the age of 19 years; however, children will be permitted to visit 30 days maximum each year."


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zcaveman
08-15-2010, 06:58 PM
I knew I should have not opened this post. :cus:

Please read the deed restrictions and abide by them.

Number 6
08-15-2010, 08:55 PM
I am with zcaveman here. Don't sign the covenant if you don't intend to abide with it. It is a nice lesson for those under 19.

"Persons under the age of 19 may visit for a maxium of 30 days per year but may not reside permanently in any dwelling." That is from Covenants & Restrictions and is number one.`

JimJoe
08-15-2010, 08:55 PM
I knew I should have not opened this post. :cus:

Please read the deed restrictions and abide by them.

Why should you not have opened this post?

redwitch
08-15-2010, 09:39 PM
I love the villages but this 19 yr old rule must have some exceptions. If the child does not use the amenities, is it really that big of thing?
How about a child who is handicapped or recovering from an injury, or in desperate financial situation?
Has anyone ever heard of this rule being enforced?

It really is one of those rules set in stone. The only exception is when you're not reported for having a juvenile living with you. My daughter was 22, pregnant and living with me. She looks a lot younger. Someone reported her as living in TV and being around 17. She actually had to show her driver's license to prove she was eligible to be living here. The fact she was single, pregnant and unemployed (sigh) was completely irrelevant to Community Watch -- all that mattered was her age.


I do know of a couple of kids that were living here (there was a long, indignant thread about it awhile ago). In those two cases, the neighbors were aware of the child. In one case, the father was dead and the mother was serving in Iraq. She has since come home and has moved to a neighboring town. The neighbors were well aware of the facts and did not report the child. In the other, the grandparents fought for custody and won. They immediately put their home on the market (their grandchild had a lot of emotional issues and this was definitely a good place for him to be). I believe (not sure since I no longer go to that neighborhood on a regular basis) they are still here and patiently waiting for their home to sell so they can move. Had a neighbor chosen to report either of these kids, the grandparents would have had a very limited amount of time to find alternative living arrangements for their grandchild.

The other exception that I know of is one that should have neighbors up in arms -- it really does put their homes at serious risk. There is at least one set of TVers that are emergency foster parents. No child stays longer than 30 days, so, technically, no rule is broken. The children range in age from newborn to 17 years. Some of the kids that have stayed there are violent, firestarters and the like. I would not want to live in that neighborhood.

Campbell soup
08-15-2010, 10:30 PM
I just wanted to add one personal bit of information. My daughter is 22 and we wanted her to come stay with us and finish college here (so we didn't have to feel guilty about leaving her in the frigid north while we play in the sun). I asked about getting her a permanent id but was told the only way she could get one is to be on the title. Otherwise I could get her a new pass every 30 days. I am not ready to add her to our title so 30 day passes were our only choice. Unfortunately/Fortunately she decided she missed her friends and got a condo back in Michigan. So, even if a child is over 19 she/he are not allowed to get permanent id's. Just one more thing to think about. Karen

redwitch
08-15-2010, 10:47 PM
Campbell, I think someone told you wrong. My daughter had a one-year rental style ID, which was turned in when she moved out. She has a couple of friends here who have permanent ID cards. None of these kids/adults are on the titles.

CSilvestrucci
08-16-2010, 10:31 AM
My 22 yr old son was able to get a permanent ID valid for 3 years and will be able to renew if he is still here. He had to prove he was a FL resident ( drivers license and voter's registration)

dog friendly
08-16-2010, 10:50 AM
ask how many grandchildren stay more than 30 days, and where do you think they can get a 30 day pass renewed. Yes at the rec center......

zcaveman
08-16-2010, 11:37 AM
Why should you not have opened this post?

Aggravation with everyone not wanting to abide by the deed restrictions.

zcaveman
08-16-2010, 11:40 AM
MY friend down the street has a 30 something year old son living there. He showed his FL drivers license that had the Villages home as his permanent residence and he got the blue three year ID.

BobKat1
08-16-2010, 11:42 AM
Aggravation with everyone not wanting to abide by the deed restrictions.

Understandable.:)

mulligan
08-16-2010, 11:46 AM
YO BOB, (if I may use the familiar). Your last name isn't Goldthwaite is it??

BobKat1
08-16-2010, 12:15 PM
YO BOB, (if I may use the familiar). Your last name isn't Goldthwaite is it??

No! He's crazy. I'm only halfway there.