Three Restaurants gone this week

[swooner]

Toojays, Spanish Springs

Demshars, Spanish Springs

Cody’s , Mulberry

[dewilson58]

:shrug:

As of the end of July, over 16,000 have closed in the USA.

[Bjeanj]

I can’t say that I’m surprised. Retail is suffering, too.

[dewilson58]

I can’t say that I’m surprised. Retail is suffering, too.


Would hate to be in retail with a store-front.

[Two Bills]

Until Covid is under control a whole lot more will go to the wall.
As much as TV full timers hate and complain about the Snowbirds, a lot of Florida businesses depend on the winter season to see them through the rest of the year.
If the virus continues as at present, and many of the 'birds' are unable/refuse to fly south expect a whole lot more of the same

[davem4616]

I expect many more restaurants will close for good before things turn around ... such a shame that so many small businesses will go under and that so many folks have been furloughed from large corporations and forced to dig into their savings to survive

yet college kids just don't seem to 'get it'...read today that a group of students at Northeastern were kicked out for violating covid-19 rules and will not get their $36K tuition refunded....ouch! once again, just because you test well doesn't necessarily mean that you're intelligent

we keep giving to the Salvation Army...they dispense the greatest amount of money donated to them

[asianthree]

What one has to ask is in 2019 how many times did one frequent the three restaurants. I’ll go first

Too Jays SS once

Demshars SS twice

Cody’s Zero

Let’s throw in KBs Since 2007 have been there 3 times

None of these was about cost, for us it’s the food, nothing spectacular just a average. So we definitely didn’t contribute to keeping them open

[swooner]

What one has to ask is in 2019 how many times did one frequent the three restaurants. I’ll go first

Too Jays SS once

Demshars SS twice

Cody’s Zero

Let’s throw in KBs Since 2007 have been there 3 times

None of these was about cost, for us it’s the food, nothing spectacular just a average. So we definitely didn’t contribute to keeping them open
Toojays - many times
Denshars - Went once, not worth a return trip
Cody’s - once, disgusting

[Stu from NYC]

Unfortunately more will go under before this ends.

Once this ends new ones will open up.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Demshars closed before this week. They had a "nasty-gram" on their little message board outside the store where they usually put the menu blaming customers for not coming to the Square (like it was our "fault" that they had no business). That was over a week ago.

[eweissenbach]

Toojays, Spanish Springs

Demshars, Spanish Springs

Cody’s , Mulberry

Very sorry to hear that Demshars closed. It was one of our favorite Villages restaurants. Maybe the family will open anew one after the pandemic runs its course.

[kathyspear]

Cody’s , Mulberry

Was there an announcement that Cody's in Mulberry is definitely not coming back?

kathy

[champion6]

Was there an announcement that Cody's in Mulberry is definitely not coming back?
kathyYes. Sept. 8 at the online news site
"Chain restaurant in Mulberry Grove permanently closed amid COVID-19 pandemic"

[Mleeja]

Demshars closed before this week. They had a "nasty-gram" on their little message board outside the store where they usually put the menu blaming customers for not coming to the Square (like it was our "fault" that they had no business). That was over a week ago.

What exactly did the “nasty-gram” say? Maybe they were just stating the facts?

[raynan]

TooJay's and Cody are permanently closed.

I thought the sign said temporary closure on Demshar's and I got an email a few weeks ago saying they were closing temporarily because of COVID-19.

We've had many delicious meals at Demshar's and maybe holding off on the negative comments will help them to reopen when the time comes.

[Stu from NYC]

Demshars closed before this week. They had a "nasty-gram" on their little message board outside the store where they usually put the menu blaming customers for not coming to the Square (like it was our "fault" that they had no business). That was over a week ago.

That does not exactly promote good will does it

[CanTho]

Demshars closed before this week. They had a "nasty-gram" on their little message board outside the store where they usually put the menu blaming customers for not coming to the Square (like it was our "fault" that they had no business). That was over a week ago.

Always another side to the story.

Demshars recently received between $ 150,000 to $ 300,000 in Covid-19 relief money designated as ahem a " Forgivable Loan ".

The money was obtained through Citizens First Bank.

My prediction the obvious Bye Bye Spanish Springs and " The Villages ".

Hmmmm follow the $$$$$$$

Stonecrest was available ..... Bingo ! :faint:

[Stu from NYC]

Always another side to the story.

Demshars recently received between $ 150,000 to $ 300,000 in Covid-19 relief money designated as ahem a " Forgivable Loan ".

The money was obtained through Citizens First Bank.

My prediction the obvious Bye Bye Spanish Springs and " The Villages ".

Hmmmm follow the $$$$$$$

Stonecrest was available ..... Bingo ! :faint:

Our govt throwing away our money once again

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I was just there tonight, if I knew I was going to be quizzed on the subject I would've taken a photo of the sign. It was a short paragraph. Something like "we have decided that there's no point in trying to stay open because of Covid-19. Maybe if more people actually came to the square it'd be worth trying to save this place but screw that."

Those are my words, expressing my perception of what they posted.

[Northwoods]

Demshars closed before this week. They had a "nasty-gram" on their little message board outside the store where they usually put the menu blaming customers for not coming to the Square (like it was our "fault" that they had no business). That was over a week ago.

But isn't it, just a little bit. our fault that they closed? There are a few scenarios... 1. The food/service was so bad people didn't want to go there. 2. The Pandemic happened so we're not eating out at all. 3. There's no entertainment so we're not going to the square.

#1 is there own fault. But #2 and #3 fall on the consumer. If they're not getting business they're not making money and so they have to close.

I can tell you that we have either done take out or dined in at the restaurants that we want to support. We overtip. We understand if we don't support the restaurants we love, they might go out of business. So we are doing everything we can to support them.

If you don't want your favorite restaurant to close... that's what you have to do.

[mlmarr1]

Very sorry to hear that Demshars closed. It was one of our favorite Villages restaurants. Maybe the family will open anew one after the pandemic runs its course.

DENNIS opened...Check out Cheers in Stone Crest..
Great food and entertainment.. also heard reopen..could happen in November.. villages open the squares..

[Leadbone1]

Toojays, Spanish Springs

Demshars, Spanish Springs

Cody’s , Mulberry

Restaurants closing and opening under new ownership and new names is a constant thing in that particular business. The catch is, none of them will make it if they are not supported. I recently spent three weeks outside the villages in two different states. Ate in restaurants that were at least 50% full or more. Nowhere did I see the paranoia that exists in the villages with regard to COVID-19. A virus that now should be in the rearview mirror based on how the number of cases and deaths have dropped so significantly nationwide. Do you want things to get back to normal? Then start acting like it!

[RonI46]

What one has to ask is in 2019 how many times did one frequent the three restaurants. I’ll go first

Too Jays SS once

Demshars SS twice

Cody’s Zero

Let’s throw in KBs Since 2007 have been there 3 times

None of these was about cost, for us it’s the food, nothing spectacular just a average. So we definitely didn’t contribute to keeping them open

I liked Cody’s when we first went to their Ocala restaurant before they move to The Villages and after they move to TV they were good but then management didn’t keep the quality up. I got sick off of the salad at the Sumter store and it took awhile to go back. The other two stores also had problems with food and the managers admitted it.

[Pamelah]

TooJay's and Cody are permanently closed.

I thought the sign said temporary closure on Demshar's and I got an email a few weeks ago saying they were closing temporarily because of COVID-19.

We've had many delicious meals at Demshar's and maybe holding off on the negative comments will help them to reopen when the time comes.
Hopefully the negative comments will prompt them to improve their food and service and make every day consistently good.

[HoosierPa]

Would hate to be in retail with a store-front.

If COVID doesn’t kill your storefront business, Amazon could !

[NotGolfer]

The business climate has been changing for the last few years. First because of a lot of online shopping, long-time stores have folded. Then COVID hit.....restaurants are a tough business in a good economy but then with all the restrictions laid out these past months it would be tough to continue. IF they were struggling prior then a death-knell is expected. I think of stores like SteinMart too, going out of business. Don't know what their bottom line was before COVID but..... We can all complain and point fingers but I'd wager many have never had a business. I didn't have a store-front but I did do a direct selling business for a few years. My supplier went through some struggles due to rapid growth, trying to change with that in technology as well as getting their own products in the ware-house. THEN 9-11 hit...it dramatically affected many of the seller's (mine included) so I phased out of my business. Fast-forward a handfull of years and that company went belly-up. Many times it just takes one thing or several, seemingly smaller things and a business can no longer function. Those restaurants need to be able to pay their workers and if no one is coming (for whatever the reason) they can't keep their doors open indefinitely.

[John M. Acaron]

Demshars quality food was horrible.. poor presentation. Customer service mediocre at its best...... The price of their dishes was fine but not a single time we visited we were satisfied..... we gave them many opportunities.... They needed to learn from The Chop House.

Neither of the three restaurants were any good......... just mediocre........ Hopefully some High end restaurant will take over their space....

[jbrown132]

What one has to ask is in 2019 how many times did one frequent the three restaurants. I’ll go first

Too Jays SS once

Demshars SS twice

Cody’s Zero

Let’s throw in KBs Since 2007 have been there 3 times

None of these was about cost, for us it’s the food, nothing spectacular just a average. So we definitely didn’t contribute to keeping them open

Let’s be truthful. If most of the restaurant’s in TV were located in any major city they would not survive. The food in the great majority of theses restaurants is average a best and many below average. The old saying “invent a better mouse trap an the world will beat a path to your door”. If these restaurants put out better quality I don’t think they would be in as much trouble. I believe what your seeing right now is a shake out and those that put out poor quality and service will not survive.

[Stu from NYC]

Restaurants closing and opening under new ownership and new names is a constant thing in that particular business. The catch is, none of them will make it if they are not supported. I recently spent three weeks outside the villages in two different states. Ate in restaurants that were at least 50% full or more. Nowhere did I see the paranoia that exists in the villages with regard to COVID-19. A virus that now should be in the rearview mirror based on how the number of cases and deaths have dropped so significantly nationwide. Do you want things to get back to normal? Then start acting like it!

Until about a month ago we did not feel comfortable given the virus of eating at a restaurant so we did takeout of food we could reheat and feel safe.

Now we are back to our normal routine of 1-2x a week but only restaurants that take this seriously.

Very sorry if good restaurants close during these times but our safety comes first. People here are older and at more risk of dying if they catch the virus so do you expect them to dine out to support a restaurant at potential risk of their lives?

[Scott O]

Well the negative comments, will be from those who consistently make them...then they will complain there is no restaurants to go to next...Covid has made life difficult for all, but kicking a business when it’s down....really, smdh

[dewilson58]

Demshars quality food was horrible.. poor presentation. Customer service mediocre at its best...... The price of their dishes was fine but not a single time we visited we were satisfied..... we gave them many opportunities.... They needed to learn from The Chop House.

Neither of the three restaurants were any good......... just mediocre........ Hopefully some High end restaurant will take over their space....


I see some posters liked the place, but I agree with your description. It's the second shop I was not a fan of in that location.

[coffeebean]

Toojays - many times
Denshars - Went once, not worth a return trip
Cody’s - once, disgusting

Re: Cody's......what was disgusting? Was it the food, service, cleanliness of the restaurant or something else?

Just yesterday, hubby and I went to Cody's in Brownwood. (our usual Cody's is LSL) The Baby Back ribs were so meaty and juicy with the most delicious BBQ sauce generously slathered on them. The endless salad was delicious and fresh as usual. Hubby's side of cole slaw was creamy and so delicious. My sweet baked potato was cooked to perfection. The rolls were great as usual with the delicious cinnamon spread. The restaurant and restroom were immaculate and the service was very attentive.

I never did go to the Cody's that has been closed. The Cody's website says that location is "temporarily closed" so we will see what the future brings.

The only issue I have with Cody's is the installation of the plexiglass on the back of their booths to minimize the air from entering your dining space from people in adjacent booths. Rather than having the plexiglass sit flush on the top of the booth backs, there is a large gap between the bottom of the plexiglass and the top of the booth. Seems that large gap is defeating the purpose of putting up the plexiglass. All other restaurants hubby and I have been do have installed their plexiglass so there is no gap at all, creating a safer environment from the adjacent booths.

We have been dining in Cody's LSL for many years and have never had a bad meal.

[Nucky]

We who were overly fortunate with our lifestyle before The Virus should be patient even though its difficult and be a good example for our family's and those around us. Having an opinion and stating it on this Forum is what it is all about I believe.

Giving oxygen to the shameful remarks of some will help them grow into gigantic disasters for Our Forum. Just like several of the poster who have recently taken a powder. Their absence has made our Forum much better again. They sometimes don't put themselves in the other person's shoes. What kind of letter should be left outside of any business that is closing? A Love Letter? I don't think so. Maybe the person who penned the letter just had to lay off the people who made him look good for years. Just like the Posters who have left us other restaurants will fill the spots these empty ones will leave. Spanish Springs is not finished. The Virus is not finished either.

It all is a shame but Demshars, TooJays, and Codys didn't order up the current Pandemic. It wasn't even on the menu. I predict that everything will end up being just fine for everyone involved in the end. Let time play out. How many imminent disasters were lurking over our community? Many is the answer and we're still here so far living a good life. Any bit of news sends some of us into a frenzy.

[coffeebean]

Demshars quality food was horrible.. poor presentation. Customer service mediocre at its best...... The price of their dishes was fine but not a single time we visited we were satisfied..... we gave them many opportunities.... They needed to learn from The Chop House.

Neither of the three restaurants were any good......... just mediocre........ Hopefully some High end restaurant will take over their space....

A group of us went to Demshar's for a holiday dinner last year. I was not impressed with the extra condiment I had requested that arrived in a little plastic cup. That cup is what is used for take out condiments, not an indoor dining experience. Never went back.

[coffeebean]

Well the negative comments, will be from those who consistently make them...then they will complain there is no restaurants to go to next...Covid has made life difficult for all, but kicking a business when it’s down....really, smdh

Had to Google "smdh". I'm too old to try to figure out those acronyms.

[mydavid]

What one has to ask is in 2019 how many times did one frequent the three restaurants. I’ll go first

Too Jays SS once

Demshars SS twice

Cody’s Zero

Let’s throw in KBs Since 2007 have been there 3 times

None of these was about cost, for us it’s the food, nothing spectacular just a average. So we definitely didn’t contribute to keeping them open So your saying the only places worth saving are the ones with fancy over price menus. :shocked:

[Holpat39]

The person wishing for "High End" restaurants should realize that many of the Villigers cannot afford the high end restaurants and are satisfied with the food offered at the "Lower End" restaurants.

[Dilligas]

Toojays, Spanish Springs

Demshars, Spanish Springs

Cody’s , Mulberry
And there will be more

[Dana1963]

Demshars closed before this week. They had a "nasty-gram" on their little message board outside the store where they usually put the menu blaming customers for not coming to the Square (like it was our "fault" that they had no business). That was over a week ago.
I did see the Nastygram with attitude like that and opening at a new location under a different name I will venture to say they will not be reopening. Not a very goodvBusiness Practice for supporting and future customers

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I'm fine with Spanish Springs getting a new higher-end place to dine. I don't think Demshar's was all that great, but something better at a similar price point would be appropriate. There are plenty of places in SS where we can get lower-priced tasty food, no matter how big or small the microwave oven is, no matter how many crates of frozen food they keep in their walk-in, whatever else. Gator's is awesome for their wings and chopped salad. World of Beer has flatbread Fridays and I like their steak flatbread almost as much as I like City Fire's flatbread. Margerita's, when they don't overcook it, has an enormous, very tasty fried fish sandwich. These menu items start at $5 (flatbread on Fridays before 5pm) and don't go over $12 (the fish sandwich with a side order). Ay Jalisco will give you a nice-sized steak taco with refries and rice, chips and a MUCH-improved salsa over their previous incarnation, for under $6.

If I wanted to dine out every day, I would consider these too expensive. But for a weekly or once every other week treat, they are a great option to cooking at home.

[Stu from NYC]

A group of us went to Demshar's for a holiday dinner last year. I was not impressed with the extra condiment I had requested that arrived in a little plastic cup. That cup is what is used for take out condiments, not an indoor dining experience. Never went back.

You never went back because of how they served extra condiments?

[HappyRetired]

We've had to limit our eating-out because of limited healthy choices. Some places have become off-limits because there is too much salt. So many residents have health problems that eating at home is a necessity with going out being for the occasional treat. Plus, you have to remember that the Lifestyle was for affordable options which country clubs and high-end dining are not. We're sorry that Sweet Tomatoes couldn't stay open.

[JSR22]

You never went back because of how they served extra condiments?

Amazing!!!

[deantilman@comcast.net]

The truck is now gone.

[Stu from NYC]

The person wishing for "High End" restaurants should realize that many of the Villigers cannot afford the high end restaurants and are satisfied with the food offered at the "Lower End" restaurants.

We are not gourmets and happy with simple choices like burgers and pizza.

High end restaurants really do nothing for us.

[Velvet]

Tried several restaurants in TV (with better reviews) and decided to cook at home afterwards. The problem invariably (over decades) was the food was not fresh enough and had little taste.

[Two Bills]

Had to Google "smdh". I'm too old to try to figure out those acronyms.

Same here.
Just had to do same thing.
What do you reckon?

'Shake My Damn Head'
or
'Salem Memorial District Hospital! :icon_wink:

[kathyspear]

We are not gourmets and happy with simple choices like burgers and pizza.

High end restaurants really do nothing for us.

What he said. :)

kathy

[jump4]

We need more fast casual options.

[coffeebean]

You never went back because of how they served extra condiments?

Correct. The good quality was not the greatest either. Having said that, hubby and I will be going to Demshar's new location at Stonecrest in a couple of days only because we will be going to a dinner show with Johnny Wild and the Delights. The entertainment is the draw for us, not the food.

[coffeebean]

Same here.
Just had to do same thing.
What do you reckon?

'Shake My Damn Head'
or
'Salem Memorial District Hospital! :icon_wink:

Too funny!

[graciegirl]

Restaurants closing and opening under new ownership and new names is a constant thing in that particular business. The catch is, none of them will make it if they are not supported. I recently spent three weeks outside the villages in two different states. Ate in restaurants that were at least 50% full or more. Nowhere did I see the paranoia that exists in the villages with regard to COVID-19. A virus that now should be in the rearview mirror based on how the number of cases and deaths have dropped so significantly nationwide. Do you want things to get back to normal? Then start acting like it!

We were probably the only place that had an entire population at high risk of dying from that damned virus. It's a little hard to sally forth when the mortality rate for us old buzzards is ten percent if we catch it. Plus. Restaurants closings are happening everywhere.

Yelp report: 60% of restaurant closures permanent, more will close - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/yelp-report-60-of-restaurant-closures-permanent-more-will-close-2020-7)

[Northwoods]

We who were overly fortunate with our lifestyle before The Virus should be patient even though its difficult and be a good example for our family's and those around us. Having an opinion and stating it on this Forum is what it is all about I believe.

Giving oxygen to the shameful remarks of some will help them grow into gigantic disasters for Our Forum. Just like several of the poster who have recently taken a powder. Their absence has made our Forum much better again. They sometimes don't put themselves in the other person's shoes. What kind of letter should be left outside of any business that is closing? A Love Letter? I don't think so. Maybe the person who penned the letter just had to lay off the people who made him look good for years. Just like the Posters who have left us other restaurants will fill the spots these empty ones will leave. Spanish Springs is not finished. The Virus is not finished either.

It all is a shame but Demshars, TooJays, and Codys didn't order up the current Pandemic. It wasn't even on the menu. I predict that everything will end up being just fine for everyone involved in the end. Let time play out. How many imminent disasters were lurking over our community? Many is the answer and we're still here so far living a good life. Any bit of news sends some of us into a frenzy.

I 100% agree with your quote. I think we have to realize there is a pandemic and many businesses will suffer.
In addition to giving oxygen to shameful quotes, I would say that pure speculation with no facts also leads to hysteria and baseless (99% of the time negative) conclusions by posters.

[asianthree]

So your saying the only places worth saving are the ones with fancy over price menus. :shocked:

One should read the post, that stated how many times we ate at a restaurant. Sorry if I am paying for food I need to enjoy it. So to your response,
TooJays is not the deli food I grew up on.
Cody’s menu reminds me of fast food, which we do not eat. Just because you retire doesn’t mean you stop making healthy choices.
Demshers was not cheap, food was OK.
KBs in 07 was the place to be, as the years went on food, went down hill fast.

We don’t eat at a restaurant that I can make it better at home.
Please tell me of what restaurant here with fancy overpriced food, in TV.
If I am eating out it’s about the food, the experience, and the service. Other wise I can sous vide a steak mid rare, with a bottle of cakebread, and be very happy.

[Northwoods]

Same here.
Just had to do same thing.
What do you reckon?

'Shake My Damn Head'
or
'Salem Memorial District Hospital! :icon_wink:

I'm going with Salem Memorial District Hospital. Interesting end to a post....

[Stu from NYC]

I 100% agree with your quote. I think we have to realize there is a pandemic and many businesses will suffer.
In addition to giving oxygen to shameful quotes, I would say that pure speculation with no facts also leads to hysteria and baseless (99% of the time negative) conclusions by posters.

Agreed. Why do people think we should risk our lives to eat at restaurants during the height of the pandemic?

Now that things are better we have started to eat at restaurants but very carefully and making sure they are doing things properly.

[chet2020]

We were probably the only place that had an entire population at high risk of dying from that damned virus. It's a little hard to sally forth when the mortality rate for us old buzzards is ten percent if we catch it. Plus. Restaurants closings are happening everywhere.

Yelp report: 60% of restaurant closures permanent, more will close - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/yelp-report-60-of-restaurant-closures-permanent-more-will-close-2020-7)

Spot on.

[joedi]

And who’s fault is why stores, restaurants are closing because of people not going out? If things were handle correctly from the beginning maybe things would be different?

[Jazzman]

Demshars closed before this week. They had a "nasty-gram" on their little message board outside the store where they usually put the menu blaming customers for not coming to the Square (like it was our "fault" that they had no business). That was over a week ago.

You must have a different definition of nast gram as I saw the sign and in my opinion there’s no way the posting could be considered a nasty gram. What a few seem to forget that specific to Spanish Springs and the entertainment which helped restaurants with customers, many who attended the free entertainment were not residents of the villages. Villagers alone could never keep those restaurants with the customer stream they require to be marginally profitable.

[GreySkies]

Demshars closed before this week. They had a "nasty-gram" on their little message board outside the store where they usually put the menu blaming customers for not coming to the Square (like it was our "fault" that they had no business). That was over a week ago.

Shame they tried to blame the customers. The two times I tried that place during previous trips to TV the service was slow and the food was average at best, less of a value when you consider the cost. Yes, COVID had an impact on their business but diminishing service and quality also was a factor.

[rogerk]

Yes. Sept. 8 at the online news site
"Chain restaurant in Mulberry Grove permanently closed amid COVID-19 pandemic"
Oh the reliable and unbiased Villages news email said something do it must be true. HA HA🙃

[merrymini]

Honestly, the death rate from h1n1 was much worse and the country never closed down. You are at higher risk with covid if you are already compromised or obese. Most of the deaths are in the very elderly in nursing homes. The villages has done very well concerning this virus. This chicken little thing has gone too far!

[Dana1963]

Honestly, the death rate from h1n1 was much worse and the country never closed down. You are at higher risk with covid if you are already compromised or obese. Most of the deaths are in the very elderly in nursing homes. The villages has done very well concerning this virus. This chicken little thing has gone too far!
Your statistics of Deaths is FALSE. From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

2009 H1N1 Pandemic (H1N1pdm09 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html)

Where did you get your information? Q, OANN or another Fake News site?

[Dana1963]

We need more fast casual options.
Arby’s, McD, BK, Wendy’s and Subway aren’t enough, what quality fast casual food restaurants are you talking about. Or do you mean inexpensive restaurants.

[mjpuleo]

it is confirmed--some thought Demshars was just closing for renovations, but they are closing for good. don't know if i believe what i read about the sign that was posted outside the restaurant was from Demshars itself. who knows?

[Skip]

it is confirmed--some thought Demshars was just closing for renovations, but they are closing for good. don't know if i believe what i read about the sign that was posted outside the restaurant was from Demshars itself. who knows?

The keyword is "temporary" !

Skip

[Stu from NYC]

The keyword is "temporary" !

Skip

Time will tell

[Medtrans]

SYou never went back because of how they served extra condiments?

If we didn’t go back to restaurants over an issue of how you receive the condiments, we would have no restaurants open. I consider it a win if I get the condiment.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Arby’s, McD, BK, Wendy’s and Subway aren’t enough, what quality fast casual food restaurants are you talking about. Or do you mean inexpensive restaurants.

There's also Moe's and Jersey Mike's, Panera. In addition, Wawa's makes decent subs, and if you don't mind waiting in line or are willing to order with an app from your phone in advance, Publix makes awesome subs and you can order a chicken tender meal made with three HUGE breaded fried chicken breast chunks, fries, and mac & cheese for sides, for I believe $6.99.

They also have a grab & go section of pre-made sandwiches (they make them right there at the store). So does Winn Dixie. There's also Chicken Salad Chicks.

All of these are accessible within a few minutes via golf cart from Spanish Springs town square.

[Stu from NYC]

S

If we didn’t go back to restaurants over an issue of how you receive the condiments, we would have no restaurants open. I consider it a win if I get the condiment.

The server would get less of a tip if we did not get the condiments we asked for. Do have certain expectations that I expect to be met without asking repeatedly

Would not stop me from going back but if service was consistently poor would go elsewhere