Traffic Circle Right of Way

[mmorrison123]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.

[pqrstar]

" The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind."

WHAT?

[Dond1959]

Here is a simple way to know what to do in a traffic circle. Think of it as a 4 lane intersection. If you approach an intersection and you want to turn right you get in the right lane for your turn, if you want to turn left you get in the left lane. You never turn left from the right lane on right from the left lane in a normal 4 lane intersection. If you are going straight Through the intersection you use either lane. The Traffic circles are the same, follow the rules you use in a normal intersection and you will not have any issues.

[Stu from NYC]

Here is a simple way to know what to do in a traffic circle. Think of it as a 4 lane intersection. If you approach an intersection and you want to turn right you get in the right lane for your turn, if you want to turn left you get in the left lane. You never turn left from the right lane on right from the left lane in a normal 4 lane intersection. If you are going straight Through the intersection you use either lane. The Traffic circles are the same, follow the rules you use in a normal intersection and you will not have any issues.

If I had a buck for every time I have seen someone go right from the inside lane could buy the most expensive house here for cash.

[eyc234]

Absolutely astounds us that the rest of the world has no problems with traffic circles but in the US most have no clue. It is correct to think of it as an intersection and act accordingly. Also USE YOUR BLINKERS/INDICATORS!!

[Stu from NYC]

Has reached a point that if anyone is in an inside land near me I expect to see them cut me off.

[VApeople]

Has reached a point that if anyone is in an inside land near me I expect to see them cut me off.

Yes, I expect the same thing. As I understand the traffic rules in the roundabouts, they have the right to do that.

[Stu from NYC]

Yes, I expect the same thing. As I understand the traffic rules in the roundabouts, they have the right to do that.

Times like that wish I drove an M1.

[CFrance]

Here is a simple way to know what to do in a traffic circle. Think of it as a 4 lane intersection. If you approach an intersection and you want to turn right you get in the right lane for your turn, if you want to turn left you get in the left lane. You never turn left from the right lane on right from the left lane in a normal 4 lane intersection. If you are going straight Through the intersection you use either lane. The Traffic circles are the same, follow the rules you use in a normal intersection and you will not have any issues.
And that explanation is as simple as can be. When we came here 9 years ago, I was not familiar with traffic circles of two lanes. Some dear person on this forum gave me your explanation, and it made perfect sense.


The only thing I would add is that if you're on the inside lane and someone comes up parallel to you on the outside lane, assume they're not doing it right and drop back a bit to let them continue on in their mistake unencumbered.

[Topspinmo]

I find most problems are people not yielding to All traffic in the roundabout before entering, just cause you are in the right lane (outside) and car coming around in the inside lane don’t give you the right away to pull out in front of them when they are exiting.

Then there the ones that enter the roundabout in left lane cut off into right lane and exit back in left lane when going straight through. there no short cut through roundabout.

Then there the ones that enter in right lane and go round to third exit, when they was supposed to exit the first or second exit in the right (outside) lane.

My last bad example somebody enters in the left (inside lane and exits at the first exit when they was supposed to be in the right lane to exit at first exit.

I automatically assume I’m going to get cut-off, pulled in front of and get squeezed in my lane if I let somebody beside me, which I try to avoid at ALL costs.

[BryanTheGolfPro]

I make a point to stay in the right lane, assume the everybody else has the right of way and I live to see another day. It is more important to avoid a wreck than to be correct.

[Viperguy]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.
Two words...Traffic sign. Look at the sign posted before every circle (and the speed limit) Follow those instructions and you can't miss. I forgot....winter is coming

[Leadbone1]

If I had a buck for every time I have seen someone go right from the inside lane could buy the most expensive house here for cash.

If you’re going straight through a circle and you enter through the center lane, you stay in that center lane to exit the circle. Two different times I had a driver from the right lane cut directly across in front of me and I had to lock up my brakes to keep from broadsiding them. Bottom line is there are way too many people that don’t have a clue.

[djwill27]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.

That is about the clearest explanation I’ve seen and most people who have replied don’t get it. It’s why there are so many problems. You can turn right from the inside lane most places so the outside lane never has the right-of-way when continuing through the circle and that’s where most of the problems come from. You can see from the responses that almost no one understands that.

[red tail]

all exits are not created equal. try going north on morse and then enter the roundabout and then exit to 27/441 going north. no matter what lane you are in you must crossover.

[Travelingal702]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.
........and PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use your turn signals. Unfortunately, the rules to whom these messages apply probably don't read these handy hints. Too bad!

[Ken Lee]

You are correct sir...

[starflyte1]

That is about the clearest explanation I’ve seen and most people who have replied don’t get it. It’s why there are so many problems. You can turn right from the inside lane most places so the outside lane never has the right-of-way when continuing through the circle and that’s where most of the problems come from. You can see from the responses that almost no one understands that.

You are correct! You do turn right from the inside lane! The first car entering the circle has the right away.

[Get real]

Traffic circles are Trump's fault. :boxing2: :)

[Girlcopper]

Absolutely astounds us that the rest of the world has no problems with traffic circles but in the US most have no clue. It is correct to think of it as an intersection and act accordingly. Also USE YOUR BLINKERS/INDICATORS!!
Its not the US who has no clue. Its The Villages! I have traveled many places with circles and never have an issue. Get right thru the roundabout smoothly. Here.....well, everyone just does what they want and expects you to get out of their way. Just like shoppers coming out of Walmart. They just walk directly into the parking lot, looking straight ahead and expect you to jam on your breaks. The “entitlement” attitude is everyone of ALL ages

[davem4616]

maybe it's the name.....up north we called them 'rotaries', they were much bigger circles with nothing in the center obstructing views, much easier to navigate

but these 'roundabouts' in TV are nothing....if you really want a challenge....fly over to Ireland, where you drive on the opposite side of the road...there's more than a
few roundabouts over there that will test your driving skills...especially if you're driving a rental, using your left hand to operate the stick shift and have no clue where you're going...lol

we ended up going around more than a couple a few times...just for good measure

[Girlcopper]

all exits are not created equal. try going north on morse and then enter the roundabout and then exit to 27/441 going north. no matter what lane you are in you must crossover.
So? Its just like changing lanes on the road. You LOOK before you change.

[villageuser]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.

Yeah!! Some one who knows how it is correctly done! And explained it clearly. I get tired of these articles that say that if you are in the right lane you can turn on the next one or two turns. That is soooo wrong! Surprising there are not more accidents.

[Miguel 1952]

If I had my way I would get rid of traffic circles. Why? It is confusing to many people. Hence this creates a dangerous situation. Safety must always come first.

[kappy]

Always use your right turn signal when exiting a roundabout, even if you are going straight.

[MandoMan]

Absolutely astounds us that the rest of the world has no problems with traffic circles but in the US most have no clue. It is correct to think of it as an intersection and act accordingly. Also USE YOUR BLINKERS/INDICATORS!!

Last week I drove down a road I hadn’t driven on since last year and discovered a couple new traffic circles. Using them was SO much easier and safer for making left turns from a stop sign, with fast traffic coming from two directions without stopping.

[JanetMM]

[QUOTE=davem4616;1834055]maybe it's the name.....up north we called them 'rotaries', they were much bigger circles with nothing in the center obstructing views, much easier to navigate

but these 'roundabouts' in TV are nothing....if you really want a challenge....fly over to Ireland, where you drive on the opposite side of the road...there's more than a
few roundabouts over there that will test your driving skills...especially if you're driving a rental, using your left hand to operate the stick shift and have no clue where you're going...lol

we ended up going around more than a couple a few times...just for good measure

Same here! “Keep circling, I’ll check the map!” This was before GPS. Even worse was two lane roads more narrow than my tiny driveway with stone “walls” on one side and a cliff drop to the ocean on the other! ;-)

[Janlindsey4@gmail.com]

And use signals when exiting or staying In the center lane. This allows others to see your plans.

[donfey]

Absolutely astounds us that the rest of the world has no problems with traffic circles but in the US most have no clue. It is correct to think of it as an intersection and act accordingly. Also USE YOUR BLINKERS/INDICATORS!!

Ah, but the rest of the world DOES have problems with traffic circles, just like we do here. The "advice" in the OP is well stated: DON'T cross a solid line (but expect that others WILL do so,) and cross dashed lines with caution (but expect that others may be careless.) And YES - DO USE YOUR BLINKERS!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I make a point to stay in the right lane, assume the everybody else has the right of way and I live to see another day. It is more important to avoid a wreck than to be correct.

You are causing a problem if you are going to 3/4 of the way around the round about.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

[QUOTE=davem4616;1834055]maybe it's the name.....up north we called them 'rotaries', they were much bigger circles with nothing in the center obstructing views, much easier to navigate

but these 'roundabouts' in TV are nothing....if you really want a challenge....fly over to Ireland, where you drive on the opposite side of the road...there's more than a
few roundabouts over there that will test your driving skills...especially if you're driving a rental, using your left hand to operate the stick shift and have no clue where you're going...lol

we ended up going around more than a couple a few times...just for good measure

Same here! “Keep circling, I’ll check the map!” This was before GPS. Even worse was two lane roads more narrow than my tiny driveway with stone “walls” on one side and a cliff drop to the ocean on the other! ;-)

Here is one for you. I used to drive around this quite often when I lived in Manila. It goes from 6 lane to 3 in the blink of an eye. Many Filipino drivers are under the impression that the lane lines are to be straddled.

https://i.imgur.com/XZyho4V.png

[Villagesgal]

Rules for circles in Marion County are not the same as Sumter County. Know each counties rules.

[Bill1701]

If I had my way I would get rid of traffic circles. Why? It is confusing to many people. Hence this creates a dangerous situation. Safety must always come first.
If people are confused by roundabouts, they shouldn't be driving.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Round abouts? Ours are nothing compared to this one in England. Look very closely at it.

https://i.imgur.com/WFvDJFU.jpg

[Kathryn Putt]

And using a signal when crossing the broken line is wise to do for the uneducated driver.

[Stu from NYC]

maybe it's the name.....up north we called them 'rotaries', they were much bigger circles with nothing in the center obstructing views, much easier to navigate

but these 'roundabouts' in TV are nothing....if you really want a challenge....fly over to Ireland, where you drive on the opposite side of the road...there's more than a
few roundabouts over there that will test your driving skills...especially if you're driving a rental, using your left hand to operate the stick shift and have no clue where you're going...lol

we ended up going around more than a couple a few times...just for good measure

Thinking of starting a new business running a demolition derby.

So will get a bunch of older American drivers from here and bring them over to Ireland give them an old jalopy and off we go.

:bigbow::bigbow:

[Stu from NYC]

Round abouts? Ours are nothing compared to this one in England. Look very closely at it.

https://i.imgur.com/WFvDJFU.jpg

Wow do they station tow trucks to haul off the wrecks?

[chrissy2231]

My approach to roundabouts is to let the car next to me go first while I slowly go round so that if he is cutting across he/she doesn't hit me. Works beautifully.

[wrestle1]

You are correct! You do turn right from the inside lane! The first car entering the circle has the right away.

You are correct and that rule is key. Vehicles already occupying the roundabout have the right away over vehicles entering

[sloanst]

You don't have the right to continue to the 3rd. exit in the outside lane. If you are in the outside lane you must leave the traffic circle no later than the 2nd exit.

[Scorpyo]

Has reached a point that if anyone is in an inside land near me I expect to see them cut me off.
As Stu says. Expect and prepare for the worst. How do you do that - simple - when you think about or get into a round-about do so slowly and if there's traffic in there expect them to do something stupid. Once in there pay attention to cars around you. If there's a car next to you in the inner lane slow down and let him have room in front of you so if he does decide to exit you can avoid being hit by him. Motorcycle riders do this all the time. If there's a car or truck next to you either speed up or slow down and either get in front or behind him so you're not in his blind spot.

[Miguel 1952]

If people are confused by roundabouts, they shouldn't be driving.

Tell that to the many seniors in TV!

[MDLNB]

Traffic circles should be only one lane. Problem solved.

Half the traffic at the circles is from outside the Villages folks that cut through the Villages to avoid the lights and traffic on the main highways. Maybe if they had single lane circles, that would slow them down and cause some to stop cutting through. ANother idea would be to put gates at the entrances to those roads from the main roads so that folks have to stop before entering. It would probably back up traffic for a while, but eventually it would be like Morse off of Rt466.
Just ideas to add to the discussion.

Mature adults (old people) take more time to process information that is happening around them, so circles are dangerous places. There is nothing routine about them.

[CFrance]

You are causing a problem if you are going to 3/4 of the way around the round about.
Exactly. If you are going 3/4 of the way around in the right lane, you are a big part of the problem.

[wrestle1]

You don't have the right to continue to the 3rd. exit in the outside lane. If you are in the outside lane you must leave the traffic circle no later than the 2nd exit.

Agreed. My point is when you’re entering in the left lane and intending to turn left in the third turn some cars entering from the first and second turns into the outside/right lane parallel with the inside car and do not allow the inside vehicle to make entry into the third turn.

[Stu from NYC]

A friend found a different way to combat the problem.

He takes up both lanes while going around roundabout.

[PugMom]

[QUOTE=davem4616;1834055]maybe it's the name.....up north we called them 'rotaries', they were much bigger circles with nothing in the center obstructing views, much easier to navigate

but these 'roundabouts' in TV are nothing....if you really want a challenge....fly over to Ireland, where you drive on the opposite side of the road...there's more than a
few roundabouts over there that will test your driving skills...especially if you're driving a rental, using your left hand to operate the stick shift and have no clue where you're going...lol

we ended up going around more than a couple a few times...just for good measure

Same here! “Keep circling, I’ll check the map!” This was before GPS. Even worse was two lane roads more narrow than my tiny driveway with stone “walls” on one side and a cliff drop to the ocean on the other! ;-)

Boston had the WORST rotaries, imo. everyone speeds & nobody uses turn signals-its anybody's guess what some drivers were doing. i'm also glad to know i wasn't the only confused person circling the roundabouts when we 1st arrived, LOL

[PugMom]

A friend found a different way to combat the problem.

He takes up both lanes while going around roundabout.

:clap2::1rotfl:

[MDLNB]

A friend found a different way to combat the problem.

He takes up both lanes while going around roundabout.




Great idea! Problem solved.

[hal195z]

I make a point to stay in the right lane, assume the everybody else has the right of way and I live to see another day. It is more important to avoid a wreck than to be correct.
Actions as described above contribute to the problem.

[BlackhawksFan]

Here is a simple way to know what to do in a traffic circle. Think of it as a 4 lane intersection. If you approach an intersection and you want to turn right you get in the right lane for your turn, if you want to turn left you get in the left lane. You never nturn left from the right lane on right from the left lane in a normal 4 lane intersection. If you are going straight Through the intersection you use either lane. The Traffic circles are the same, follow the rules you use in a normal intersection and you will not have any issues.

Exactly. You'd never turn right from a lefthand lane on a straight 4 way road so why do people do it in a traffic circle?

[VApeople]

My point is when you’re entering in the left lane and intending to turn left in the third turn some cars entering from the first and second turns into the outside/right lane parallel with the inside car and do not allow the inside vehicle to make entry into the third turn.

That is why I have my hand on the horn at all times when driving in a roundabout. If I sense that another driver may not yield to me when I am exiting the roundabout, I honk at them.

[BlackhawksFan]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.

Right of way is given to the vehicle in the lane continuing on. If you have to cross traffic at all you have to grant tne right of way. You're not granted right of way in the circle but what lane your in.

[davem4616]

[QUOTE=JanetMM;1834079]

Boston had the WORST rotaries, imo. everyone speeds & nobody uses turn signals-its anybody's guess what some drivers were doing. i'm also glad to know i wasn't the only confused person circling the roundabouts when we 1st arrived, LOL


I grew up in Massachusetts. Ya had to have courage to drive in Boston. My older brother refused to do it...someone else always had to drive him into Logan airport.

I loved driving into Boston...it was a personal challenge, nobody gave anyone quarter. Cars would blow their horns when we went from 4 lanes to 1, they'd yell at ya, they'd swear at ya, they'd give ya the finger, but they'd never hit you. All you had to do was keep moving forward. We had an unspoken driver's code...ya didn't look at anyone and ya didn't use the turn signal, after all, why would you want to give the enemy an advantage my letting them know what you were going to do? LOL

Besides most of the cars going to the airport were rentals anyway...they weren't about to get into an accident...filling out all the forms would cause them to miss their flight.

[starflyte1]

Exactly. You'd never turn right from a lefthand lane on a straight 4 way road so why do people do it in a traffic circle?

Because it is the proper way to exit! Look at the signs as you enter the circle!!!

[BlackhawksFan]

"Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament. Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament. Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament. Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament."

(Frustrated) "I can not get over to the other side. Look kids..."

"We know Dad. Big Ben. Parliament."

[davem4616]

[QUOTE=davem4616;1834055]maybe it's the name.....up north we called them 'rotaries', they were much bigger circles with nothing in the center obstructing views, much easier to navigate

but these 'roundabouts' in TV are nothing....if you really want a challenge....fly over to Ireland, where you drive on the opposite side of the road...there's more than a
few roundabouts over there that will test your driving skills...especially if you're driving a rental, using your left hand to operate the stick shift and have no clue where you're going...lol

we ended up going around more than a couple a few times...just for good measure

Same here! “Keep circling, I’ll check the map!” This was before GPS. Even worse was two lane roads more narrow than my tiny driveway with stone “walls” on one side and a cliff drop to the ocean on the other! ;-)


The country roads are very narrow in Ireland...it is amazing that so many cars in Ireland still have sideview mirrors...we brushed up against stone walls and hedgerows any number of times when a car was approaching from the opposite direction and I tried my best to pull over to "the wrong side of the road" to let them pass

[riley2011]

If I had a buck for every time I have seen someone go right from the inside lane could buy the most expensive house here for cash.

That’s what you’re supposed to do. It’s considered going straight. If someone is in the inside lane when you are approaching the circle you are not supposed to enter because the car already in the circle may be taking the next exit and if there is an accident the car in the outside lane would be at fault.

[MDLNB]

All the above posts prove that there should NOT be two lanes of traffic in circles. On top of all the above disagreements, you have to add the age factor and the slow response to situations involved when dealing with seniors. It's not rocket science, but reaction time counts when driving a motor vehicle. On the highway, one may drive in the slow lane and allow more alert and quicker to respond drivers to pass on the left. Driving in a circle requires sharp thinking and fast reactions. Sorry but the only answer is to make circles one lane.

[Polar Bear]

...Sorry but the only answer is to make circles one lane.
Sorry, but that just causes many other problems, the most obvious being greatly reduced capacity for all connected roads.

[Topspinmo]

Yeah!! Some one who knows how it is correctly done! And explained it clearly. I get tired of these articles that say that if you are in the right lane you can turn on the next one or two turns. That is soooo wrong! Surprising there are not more accidents.

What? If you’re in right lane look at signs it shows you have to exit at the first or second exit. If You hit someone at third exit it will be you’re fault for not yielding even if you get hit in the left rear quarter panel. And yes I know someone who get ticket.

[Topspinmo]

Great idea! Problem solved.

Unless you get hit?

[MDLNB]

Sorry, but that just causes many other problems, the most obvious being greatly reduced capacity for all connected roads.


Exactly! This is the Villages, not a thoroughfare for commuters. The problem is accidents, and that would be reduced to a minimum by making it a single lane circle. Case closed.

[Topspinmo]

Agreed. My point is when you’re entering in the left lane and intending to turn left in the third turn some cars entering from the first and second turns into the outside/right lane parallel with the inside car and do not allow the inside vehicle to make entry into the third turn.

Should never happen if theY yielded to traffic in the roundabout. You should be well pass them. But the problem they pull out into the roundabout before you cleared them. That’s why rhey are beside you unless you are creeping at 5 MPH?

[Topspinmo]

Exactly! This is the Villages, not a thoroughfare for commuters. The problem is accidents, and that would be reduced to a minimum by making it a single lane circle. Case closed.

No, too much traffic for single lanes, how about 441/27 single lanes or I 75 single lanes. The amount of traffic dictates the number of lanes, not poor drivers.

[quietpine]

Europeans have a simple rule for traffic circles based on traffic priority: Stay, Leave, Enter. It only works because drivers understand and follow the rule. Isn’t that the problem with the different opinions discussed here? If everyone does the right thing but there isn’t agreement on what that is you get chaos, or round about driving in TV.

[dustyaljac]

If people actually studied the rare, but practical use of that little stick on the left of the steering wheel, how much easier and safer these these and all roadway traffic would be !!!

[Lancer]

Try the roundabout in Paris at the Arc de Triomphe. It has 11 roads and no lines to mark the lanes. Check it out on Google Maps.

[pauld315]

Rules for circles in Marion County are not the same as Sumter County. Know each counties rules.

Explain how they are different, part of the Villages is in Marion County and I treat those the same as Sumter.

[LoisR]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.
Every year for the past four years I've contacted TV office and asked that
a "SIGNAL YOUR INTENT" sign be placed in every traffic circle. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Why improve perfection?

[cemlopez]

Wrong!! A vehicle on the outside line must exit or continue straight, a vehicle on the inside line must go straight or turn left.
It is as simple as that.

[daddymac1127]

All i can say is that we all live in the Villages. I do not think any of us really need to be in a hurry to go somewhere. My simple rule is that when i approach a roundabout (rotary for us new englanders) i look to see if there are any vehicles in the rotary. If there are i allow them to proceed wherever until i know for sure where they are going. This usually only takes about 5 to 10 seconds.

[MDLNB]

No, too much traffic for single lanes, how about 441/27 single lanes or I 75 single lanes. The amount of traffic dictates the number of lanes, not poor drivers.


Not even the same. Apples to oranges. The Villages is a senior living community with slow reacting "old" folks. Yes, traffic would be slowed, and that is a good thing. The speed limit on those roads is 35mph until they reach the circles and then 20mph. Too many people trying to make a straight line at the circle doing 35-40mph. Most seniors are retired and are not in a hurry to get anywhere. Commuters are in a hurry and speed on those roads, cutting in and out of traffic. Rarely do you see a resident acting like that, unless they are late for a "T" time, and that's usually driving a golf cart.

The idea is to lessen accidents, not to make those roads super highways for commuters to avoid the multi lane highways. Of course, the alternative is to take the circles out and install traffic lights. Bet that would also stop the commuters. AND it would lessen the accident rate.

[Stu from NYC]

Wrong!! A vehicle on the outside line must exit or continue straight, a vehicle on the inside line must go straight or turn left.
It is as simple as that.

Maybe I am missing something but how do you turn left? Kind of puts you in the island

[Polar Bear]

Exactly! This is the Villages, not a thoroughfare for commuters. The problem is accidents, and that would be reduced to a minimum by making it a single lane circle. Case closed.
Yeah. They really love having just a single lane on Morse north of 466. And if you're talking about only single lane roundabouts, then merging into a single lane before every roundabout will be a really pretty site. No accident potential there. :ohdear:

[papasetti82]

Here is a simple way to know what to do in a traffic circle. Think of it as a 4 lane intersection. If you approach an intersection and you want to turn right you get in the right lane for your turn, if you want to turn left you get in the left lane. You never turn left from the right lane on right from the left lane in a normal 4 lane intersection. If you are going straight Through the intersection you use either lane. The Traffic circles are the same, follow the rules you use in a normal intersection and you will not have any issues.
You are right.Your explanation is simple.The problem is that only you,me and a handful of others understand it.That makes sixty something others confused and thats scary.One person didn't understand about making a Left Turn.

[Pickleballer3]

I would say the actual big issue with our Roundabouts is our large aged driving population here in The Villages. Remember, never cross a solid line, yield to cross a broken line and the number rule, if possible, enter the Roundabout alone! If it means speeding up a little or slowing down a little, do it for you own safety. If this isn’t possible, always assume the guy in the other car is going to cut you off, because it will happen way too many times. Be kind to each other.

[Dennys37Packard]

And it might not hurt to go around the circle a second time rather than STOP or cut someone off. It only takes 7 Or 8 seconds and gives you another chance to safely exit.

[rogerk]

Read the guidelines, put together by the US Department of Transportation, that appear in The Villages official phone book. If you prefer, pick up a brochure at the District office. Alternative is to go online and look at the DOT website for the guidelines.

Roundabouts save lives! Minor fender bender accidents but few if any major injuries occur in roundabouts. Common sense and defensive driving is always the safest.

[Marjorie Hardman]

Some people also need to be reminded that those in the traffic circle have the right of way not those entering the traffic circle. I have experienced, unfortunately several times, people entering the traffic circle thinking they have the right of way. They do not.

[Two Bills]

Read this thread and all will become clear why so many drivers have a problem negotiating roundabouts in TV.
The amazing thing to me, is how many actually survive the experience!

[pqrstar]

Read the guidelines, put together by the US Department of Transportation, that appear in The Villages official phone book. If you prefer, pick up a brochure at the District office. Alternative is to go online and look at the DOT website for the guidelines.

Here is the link to the online brochure
"A Guide to Navigating Roundabouts in Sumter County"

https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

[Topspinmo]

Not even the same. Apples to oranges. The Villages is a senior living community with slow reacting "old" folks. Yes, traffic would be slowed, and that is a good thing. The speed limit on those roads is 35mph until they reach the circles and then 20mph. Too many people trying to make a straight line at the circle doing 35-40mph. Most seniors are retired and are not in a hurry to get anywhere. Commuters are in a hurry and speed on those roads, cutting in and out of traffic. Rarely do you see a resident acting like that, unless they are late for a "T" time, and that's usually driving a golf cart.

The idea is to lessen accidents, not to make those roads super highways for commuters to avoid the multi lane highways. Of course, the alternative is to take the circles out and install traffic lights. Bet that would also stop the commuters. AND it would lessen the accident rate.


No the roads like BV and MB are county roads running through villages Just like 441 runs through villages. The are not private village roads only.

[big guy]

Here is a simple way to know what to do in a traffic circle. Think of it as a 4 lane intersection. If you approach an intersection and you want to turn right you get in the right lane for your turn, if you want to turn left you get in the left lane. You never turn left from the right lane on right from the left lane in a normal 4 lane intersection. If you are going straight Through the intersection you use either lane. The Traffic circles are the same, follow the rules you use in a normal intersection and you will not have any issues.

I don't agree about not turning right from the left lane. You will see that in this diagram and that is what we were told by the sheriff's dept. And that is what the Villages brochure says. Why have the left lane? We were told that if you are going to travel more that one exit, you should be in the left lane. https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

[Stu from NYC]

Read this thread and all will become clear why so many drivers have a problem negotiating roundabouts in TV.
The amazing thing to me, is how many actually survive the experience!

Surprising there are not more accidents.

[Topspinmo]

I don't agree about not turning right from the left lane. You will see that in this diagram and that is what we were told by the sheriff's dept. And that is what the Villages brochure says. Why have the left lane? We were told that if you are going to travel more that one exit, you should be in the left lane. https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

The second exit is considered straight through in roundabout. You can be in either the right or left lane entering roundabout going straight through. You can not be in right lane and exit at the third exit properly, you have to exit at the first or second exit. In left lane you have to go straight through or to third exit or around aNd around, entering roundabout In left lane you can’t properly exit at the first exit.

[jarodrig]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.

I’m sorry to say that you are wasting your time.

Topic has been discussed to death and there is nothing anyone can say that will make any real difference!

Best thing to do is to drive defensively and always give the other guy the right of way , even though they don’t have it !!

[Polar Bear]

...Best thing to do is to...always give the other guy the right of way , even though they don’t have it !!
Terrible advice for any form of transportation.

[Stu from NYC]

Terrible advice for any form of transportation.

Normally you would be right but considering the drivers here, what else can one do

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

[QUOTE=PugMom;1834204]


I grew up in Massachusetts. Ya had to have courage to drive in Boston. My older brother refused to do it...someone else always had to drive him into Logan airport.

I loved driving into Boston...it was a personal challenge, nobody gave anyone quarter. Cars would blow their horns when we went from 4 lanes to 1, they'd yell at ya, they'd swear at ya, they'd give ya the finger, but they'd never hit you. All you had to do was keep moving forward. We had an unspoken driver's code...ya didn't look at anyone and ya didn't use the turn signal, after all, why would you want to give the enemy an advantage my letting them know what you were going to do? LOL

Besides most of the cars going to the airport were rentals anyway...they weren't about to get into an accident...filling out all the forms would cause them to miss their flight.

I grew up in Boston and drove there all the time.

After living in Manila, I realized that Boston was a piece of cake.

[CFrance]

Should never happen if theY yielded to traffic in the roundabout. You should be well pass them. But the problem they pull out into the roundabout before you cleared them. That’s why rhey are beside you unless you are creeping at 5 MPH?
Plus, I think they should change the Yield signs to say Yield to Both Lanes. You're not supposed to enter the roundabout if there is another car already in it.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I think that terminology has a a lot to do with the confusion some people have.

Taking the first exist is often referred to as making a right turn.

Taking the second exist is often referred to as going straight ahead and taking the third exit is usually referred to as making a left hand turn.

While all of these are somewhat true, the truth is that cars exiting a round about are not really making a turn.

When taking the third exit, you are not turning right from the left hand lane. You are simply staying in your lane. The round about is part of all four roads that it connects to. So if you're headed north and intend to go west, you should get into the left hand lane and stay in it including when you leave the round about. You are not making a right hand turn. You are continuing on the same road in your lane.

Thinking of making a right hand turn from the right hand lane and a left hand turn from the left hand lane is a pretty simple and effective way of thinking about it but a round about is actually more of a curve in the road than it is an intersection. Of course, when traveling straight through or taking the second exit, you may use either lane. I always try to use the right hand lane because some people don't know the rule.

When using the left hand lane to go to the third exit (left hand turn) I am always very aware of people in the right hand lane. Some of them don't know the rules and feel that the right hand lane is safer. But the point to be made here is to ALWAYS be aware of other cars in the round about and expect them to do the wrong thing.

There is a situation that can occur when both drivers are following the rules that can be a problem. A driver enters the round about in the left hand lane heading north and intends to take the second exit. Another driver enters at approximately the same time in the right hand lane heading west and intends to go straight through. As the first driver begins to exit he is going to cut in front of the second driver. If both drivers are aware and courteous this should get worked out without a problem. If one driver is aware and paying attention, he should be able to avoid an accident. However, if both drivers are distracted, there's a good chance that they will collide and blame each other when both were following the rules.

Pay attention. Know the location of other cars and anticipate them doing the wrong thing and you'll be fine.

[billethkid]

And the magic one....yield to the other driver.

Remember the right of way is to be given....not taken!!

[itsaly]

Confession - I am that traffic circle dummy. I've been visiting The Villages a week or so every summer for the last 20 years and I have to admit I am still confused by the circles. The circles in my area are not 2 lanes, so I'm not use to navigating ones like those throughout The Villages. Every year I have to pull up the tutorial for a refresher and I do try to be very cautious, but I still goof sometimes. Please forgive me if I make a mistake. I can't imagine navigating them during snowbird season.

[Rebel Pirate]

If I had my way I would get rid of traffic circles. Why? It is confusing to many people. Hence this creates a dangerous situation. Safety must always come first.

SAFETY MUST ALWAYS COME FIRST.

Okay, so how should "safety" be defined? Some would define it as (1) reducing the number of traffic collisions to the absolute minimum at that intersection. Others would define it as (2) reducing the number of deaths and serious injuries caused by traffic collisions at that intersection.

If you believe that (2) is the appropriate definition to use in this context, then traffic circles are MUCH, MUCH safer than traditional intersections, whether those intersections are controlled by stop signs or traffic lights.

[stan the man]

Times like that wish I drove an M1.

Another great comment from stu

[sjeffries]

They have the right of way! The outside lane has to yield to a car exiting in front of them.

[Topspinmo]

Maybe I am missing something but how do you turn left? Kind of puts you in the island


Watch you’re hands! You’re either turning left or right in circle.

[Topspinmo]

IMO what I find the most unusual is people will stop before entering roundabout when no traffic in the roundabout Or coming around the roundabouts. But they will blow through stop sign or coast out into intersection creating problem for people already in line at 4 way stop ( you’re not in line at 4 way stop till you stop preferable behind the stop sign or white line stop sign on the road)

Tip? never take you’re eye off the car in front of you when entering aroundabout, they might slam on there brakes when no traffic in roundabout.

[Marathon Man]

If I had my way I would get rid of traffic circles. Why? It is confusing to many people. Hence this creates a dangerous situation. Safety must always come first.

Confusion is not an excuse. Anyone who is confused is invited to take the time to access the many sources available to learn all about the roundabouts in our community. Knowledge gets rid of confusion.

[VApeople]

And the magic one....yield to the other driver.

Remember the right of way is to be given....not taken!!

I do not agree.

I drive slowly in a roundabout, but if I have the right of way, I will take it. If I suspect another driver might take it, I honk at them, and keep honking until they back off.

Of course, if they don't back off, then I back off, which is easy to do since I am driving slowly.

[kendi]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.

Might be more helpful for some to post the diagram and instructions from TV weekly bulletin. But with all the temporary people coming in and out of TV doubt you'll find much improvement.

[Polar Bear]

...Remember the right of way is to be given....not taken!!
Couldn’t be more wrong. You either have right of way or you don’t. You cannot give it or take it.

And when you have it, proceed...cautiously. Do not try to give it to somebody else.

[Stu from NYC]

Watch you’re hands! You’re either turning left or right in circle.

But if we are getting off the third exit we are making a right turn.

[nn0wheremann]

After another close call I thought I might discuss the right of way rules for traffic circles. It's really very easy. If you find yourself crossing a solid line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you are doing something wrong. If you wish to cross a dashed line in a traffic circle (or else where for that matter) you may do so only if there is no body else in the lane that you wish to cross into. Traffic already in a lane has the right of way. If you wish to remain in your lane and not cross any lines, whether your lane stays in the circle or exits the circle, congratulations you have the right of way, but be very careful. The biggest issue I see are people in the right (outside) lane continuing around the circle, cutting across the dashed line that directs vehicles in the inside lane to exit. In most circles in the villages, the inside lane has the right of way to exit as shown by the lines on the road. There are exceptions of source. The green traffic signs you see as you approach the circles are informational only to help you see what roads are ahead and suggested traffic flow. They are NOT regulatory and do NOT indicate right of way of any mind.

So, stay in your lane, and if you need to cross a dashed line, check that the lane is clear first. Just that easy, but you already knew that didn't you.
Wrong!
If you are in the circle, you have right of way over anyone not in the circle. Never pass within the circle, and signal your intent to turn, especially left from the outside lane or right from the inside lane, in case the Bozo snowbird or uniformed individual behind you decides they want to break the rule and pass you.

[nn0wheremann]

The Sumter County Sheriff's website has a good informative brochure about traffic circles. Get it, read it, and if it confuses you, drive carefully to the station and ask the nice folks there to explain it.

It would be an improvement if all the circles were constructed, striped, and signed consistently too. The Morse circle by the Villages Hospital is a mess. Two lanes of El Camino enter, and exit to one lane of Paige Place. They ought to mark the right lane of El Camino Real as right turn only to Southbound Morse, so the through traffic moves from left lane to center lane in the circle and out across the right lane of the circle to Paige. But do not hold your breath.

Then there is the golf cart traffic trying to cross Morse and El Camino Real. They ought to move the gate arms up to the circle, or put the golf cart crossing below the gate arms for Morse southbound... For northbound Morse, we need gates to protect the west and southbound golf cart traffic. But don't hold your breath. Or do. Aerobic Golf Carting is held every day from 11:30 to 12:30 at the Morse circle by the Villages Hospital.

[Carla B]

Wrong!
If you are in the circle, you have right of way over anyone not in the circle. Never pass within the circle, and signal your intent to turn, especially left from the outside lane or right from the inside lane, in case the Bozo snowbird or uniformed individual behind you decides they want to break the rule and pass you.

Now I'm confused, after 12 years here. Turn left from the outside lane? If you're in the outside lane, you're there to (1) go right at the first exit or (2) go straight to the second exit. If going to the third exit you should have entered the circle and crossed immediately to the inside lane, except for the Morse circle by the hospital, and then all bets are off. If new here, in order to know which lane to be in before you get to a circle, study The Villages map and plot your course.

[Two Bills]

They have the right of way! The outside lane has to yield to a car exiting in front of them.

I wanted to stay out of this thread.
But.
Posts like yours are the reason people get confused about proceedure, and are dangerous.
No one should have to give way in a roundabout except in emergency, that is the whole idea of them!
If a car has to give way in the roundabout, one or the other is in the wrong lane, or entered the roundabout before it was clear in both lanes to their left!!

[MDLNB]

No the roads like BV and MB are county roads running through villages Just like 441 runs through villages. The are not private village roads only.


Hmm, I suppose the gate at Morse and Rt466 might disprove that theory. Or, the one at the circle.

[MDLNB]

Watch you’re hands! You’re either turning left or right in circle.


Actually, you are ALWAYS turning right from a circle. You cannot make a left turn or drive straight without traveling over the center green. I have seen one person straighten out a circle, but I am sure they got a ticket after the police arrived.

[jarodrig]

Hmm, I suppose the gate at Morse and Rt466 might disprove that theory. Or, the one at the circle.

Hummm.... Perhaps this might clear up your misconception ??

[Jazzman]

You are correct. Just yesterday on Buena Vista I was behind a sheriffs vehicle. The car in front of him entered the circle in the outside lane and then proceeded to continue going left in the circle. In less than two seconds the sheriff turned on his lights and followed the car around the circle and pulled the driver over.

[Medtrans]

I was cut off in one the other day by a dump truck with a contractor pick-up right behind him following him. My defensive driving prevented an accident.

[Topspinmo]

Actually, you are ALWAYS turning right from a circle. You cannot make a left turn or drive straight without traveling over the center green. I have seen one person straighten out a circle, but I am sure they got a ticket after the police arrived.

You can’t go around in circle counter clockwise with out turning left, yes you initial turn right but when you get in circle going counterclockwise you’re turning left till you exit to right.

[Stu from NYC]

You can’t go around in circle counter clockwise with out turning left, yes you initial turn right but when you get in circle going counterclockwise you’re turning left till you exit to right.

I see your point now

[VApeople]

I was cut off in one the other day by a dump truck with a contractor pick-up right behind him following him. My defensive driving prevented an accident.

Please give us more info about this incident. Thanks.

[starflyte1]

Hmm, I suppose the gate at Morse and Rt466 might disprove that theory. Or, the one at the circle.

No, the gates can not keep anyone out, but try to slow traffic and get a picture of your license plate. Anyone can enter TV

[Medtrans]

Please give us more info about this incident. Thanks.

I was going north on Morse in the left (inside) lane and going straight. Truck and pickup truck are in the right lane (outside) and basically turned left from a right hand lane. You can’t do that. If he wanted to go around the roundabout, he should have bee pen in the inside lane. My defensive driving stopped me from being in an accident. It’s not just Villagers who don’t understand roundabouts....contractors too.

[VApeople]

I was going north on Morse in the left (inside) lane and going straight. Truck and pickup truck are in the right lane (outside) and basically turned left from a right hand lane. You can’t do that. If he wanted to go around the roundabout, he should have bee pen in the inside lane. My defensive driving stopped me from being in an accident. It’s not just Villagers who don’t understand roundabouts....contractors too.

Yeah, you did very good to avoid an accident. I never go thru a roundabout in the inside lane because I am afraid someone in the outside lane will do exactly what the trucks did to you.

Of course, when I have to go 3/4 of the way around a roundabout to exit, I watch the other drivers closely and, if I suspect they might cut me off, I blow my horn and keep blowing it until I have exited safely. In fact, that happens a lot to me, including yesterday.

[Medtrans]

Yeah, you did very good to avoid an accident. I never go thru a roundabout in the inside lane because I am afraid someone in the outside lane will do exactly what the trucks did to you.

Of course, when I have to go 3/4 of the way around a roundabout to exit, I watch the other drivers closely and, if I suspect they might cut me off, I blow my horn and keep blowing it until I have exited safely. In fact, that happens a lot to me, including yesterday.

I too try to stay in the outside lane until it’s time to exit left but this time I was driving in it...probably because of the dump truck and pick-it following him on the right. Too bad one has to be worried about what is essentially going straight? When you’re on a highway you don’t worry that someone in the right lane will turn left in front of you.....why is it such a problem here?

[Stu from NYC]

I too try to stay in the outside lane until it’s time to exit left but this time I was driving in it...probably because of the dump truck and pick-it following him on the right. Too bad one has to be worried about what is essentially going straight? When you’re on a highway you don’t worry that someone in the right lane will turn left in front of you.....why is it such a problem here?

One would think that after awhile dealing with roundabouts people would see the logic in which lane you should be driving in.

[VApeople]

When you’re on a highway you don’t worry that someone in the right lane will turn left in front of you.....why is it such a problem here?

Well, it really does not matter WHY it is a problem. The fact is that it IS a problem and, as you did, we need to figure out what to do about it.

I drive thru roundabouts slowly with my hand on the horn and I honk at people all the time if I think they are about to do something stupid. However, if they ignore my honking, I am going slow enough to avoid them - at least so far.

[txfan]

The best description I've seen of how to navigate a Villages roundabout is to treat it as a you would a four-way stop:

If you're in the right lane, you can turn right, or go straight. If you're in the left lane, you can go straight, or turn left.

[coffeebean]

........and PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE use your turn signals. Unfortunately, the rules to whom these messages apply probably don't read these handy hints. Too bad!

I do not trust turn signals anywhere in The Villages, especially the RABs. I trust but verify when it comes to turn signals. Golf cart signals??? There are so many people that drive for ever with their turn signal on. My cart has automatic cancelling turn signals just like cars but that is not the case with most golf carts.

I do not ever pay attention to turn signals in the RABs. USELESS.

[coffeebean]

Always use your right turn signal when exiting a roundabout, even if you are going straight.

It would be not more than 10% of people have on turn signals when using the RABs. Most of them don't even realize their signals are on.

[coffeebean]

Ah, but the rest of the world DOES have problems with traffic circles, just like we do here. The "advice" in the OP is well stated: DON'T cross a solid line (but expect that others WILL do so,) and cross dashed lines with caution (but expect that others may be careless.) And YES - DO USE YOUR BLINKERS!

BLINKERS confuse the issue.

[coffeebean]

Rules for circles in Marion County are not the same as Sumter County. Know each counties rules.

Really? What is one major difference between the two counties?

[coffeebean]

If people are confused by roundabouts, they shouldn't be driving.

There is nothing confusing about RABs. One of my most important and safe practices I use when driving in a RAB is NEVER stay next to any car in the RAB. I always "hang back" and not ever drive next to anyone. I do not trust any other drivers.

Oh......how I've missed these RAB discussions!!!!

[coffeebean]

My approach to roundabouts is to let the car next to me go first while I slowly go round so that if he is cutting across he/she doesn't hit me. Works beautifully.

Sounds exactly what I do........"hang back" from other drivers. Let them go ahead of me ALL THE TIME.

[davem4616]

Really? What is one major difference between the two counties?


I'm curious too

hopefully they both are consistent and embrace going counter clockwise and no driving over the middle

[Topspinmo]

I do not trust turn signals anywhere in The Villages, especially the RABs. I trust but verify when it comes to turn signals. Golf cart signals??? There are so many people that drive for ever with their turn signal on. My cart has automatic cancelling turn signals just like cars but that is not the case with most golf carts.

I do not ever pay attention to turn signals in the RABs. USELESS.


One thing nice about Yamaha carts the have that Light blinking in you’re eye if you leave you’re turn signal on.

[coffeebean]

"Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament. Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament. Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament. Look kids, Big Ben, Parliament."

(Frustrated) "I can not get over to the other side. Look kids..."

"We know Dad. Big Ben. Parliament."

Funny!

[coffeebean]

Maybe I am missing something but how do you turn left? Kind of puts you in the island

From where you enter the RAB, if you go to the first exit, you have made a right turn.

From where you enter the RAB, if you go to the second exit, you have gone straight.

From where you enter the RAB, if you go to the third exit, you have made a left turn.

From where you enter the RAB, if you go to the forth exit, you have made a U Turn.

[Stu from NYC]

There is nothing confusing about RABs. One of my most important and safe practices I use when driving in a RAB is NEVER stay next to any car in the RAB. I always "hang back" and not ever drive next to anyone. I do not trust any other drivers.

Oh......how I've missed these RAB discussions!!!!

Well on the first of each month start a new one. Me I kind of like the Costco ones:bigbow:

[coffeebean]

Surprising there are not more accidents.

Lots of near misses. Do those count?

[coffeebean]

But if we are getting off the third exit we are making a right turn.

Let's try this.........

As you enter the RAB at 6:00, you travel past the 1st exit (3:00) then pass the 2nd exit (12:00) and proceed to the 3rd exit (9:00). If you look at a clock face, can you see that if you start at 6:00, and exit at 9:00, you have made a left turn (NOT a right turn) .

OK, one more way.........

You enter the RAB at south, travel past the 1st exit which is east, proceed past the 2nd exit which is north and exit at the 3rd exit which is west. If you look at a map, you can see that you have made a left turn.

Hope that helps.

[Stu from NYC]

Lots of near misses. Do those count?

Sure does makes me not drive alongside anyone in a round a bout so yes they do

[Polar Bear]

Sure does makes me not drive alongside anyone in a round a bout...
Rule #1 of roundabout driving.

If you follow that rule, everything else pretty much falls into place...safely. :)

[coffeebean]

One thing nice about Yamaha carts the have that Light blinking in you’re eye if you leave you’re turn signal on.

I just assumed all golf carts had lights to indicate the directionals are in use. No? Well, now that I think of it......the loaner golf carts The Villagers Golf Cars has loaned me, do not have those lights.