Squares opening

[shut the front door]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

[tophcfa]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

Source of this information is?

[shut the front door]

The Villages.
Believe it or don't, I could not care less. Just sharing information, not rumor. They were scheduled to open in August but had to walk that back after bars were shut down by the governor.

[dewilson58]

Nothing on TV Entertainment website yet.

[shut the front door]

The bands who play have been notified as have most restaurants on the squares.

[JoMar]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

Get there early, groups will be limited to 50% of capacity and social distancing.....get ready to rumble.

[tophcfa]

Get there early, groups will be limited to 50% of capacity and social distancing.....get ready to rumble.

Imagine how long the line of people will be at 5:55 at the drink huts if people are staying at least 6 feet apart : )

[Polar Bear]

The Villages.
Believe it or don't, I could not care less. Just sharing information, not rumor. They were scheduled to open in August but had to walk that back after bars were shut down by the governor.
Can you tell us the source of this information?

[Indy-Guy]

I am going down to LSL and rope off my seats now.

[tophcfa]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

Time for the hospital to make sure all the ventilators are working and ready to go.

[kstew43]

Fantastic news..... can't wait....
:a040:

[thelegges]

Time for the hospital to make sure all the ventilators are working and ready to go.

Just because the squares are opening you think the vents haven’t been ready to go on a daily basis? However many vents returned to stock pile, so your warning to everyone might keep them at home:1rotfl:

[thelegges]

Imagine how long the line of people will be at 5:55 at the drink huts if people are staying at least 6 feet apart : )

Same as the lines at Disney they look long but timeline is still the same, just more ropes for lines

[EdFNJ]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

The Villages.
Believe it or don't, I could not care less. Just sharing information, not rumor.


Great news if true (but crappy attitude).


The "squares" have never closed, there just has been no entertainment or booze huts. ;) Nothing on the "other site" yet. This must be a news scoop! No clue as to how they can possibly manage 50% (or any % for that manner). They can't even manage keeping the "aisles" opened when required. I guess when they shut the bars again they'll close the square again if that was the reason.

[thelegges]

Great news if true (but crappy attitude).


Nothing on the "other site" yet. This must be a scoop! No clue as to how they can possibly manage 50% (or any % for that manner). They can't even manage keeping the "aisles" opened when required. I guess when they shut the bars again they'll close the square again if that was the reason.

I am all for positive moving forward. When the squares open the developer will have a plan, just like the major attractions have in Florida.
It’s sad that you think they will have to shut down the barS, and close the squares again. I truly believe that there are many intelligent people that live here, along with many essential workers that have survived and still walk among us.

[EdFNJ]

I am all for positive moving forward. When the squares open the developer will have a plan, just like the major attractions have in Florida.
It’s sad that you think they will have to shut down the barS, and close the squares again. I truly believe that there are many intelligent people that live here, along with many essential workers that have survived and still walk among us. There are many "intelligent people" and also a lot of "not so intelligent people" who kill it for the so-called "intelligent people." When (not if) infection rates start going up again this winter as virtually every science based and not political based opinion says you think they will keep the bars opened? They already tried in once and it failed probably due to the lack of all those "intelligent people" which is why this State performed at the bottom of the pile in deaths and infections albeit not that bad in this area but lousy all around it. Still waiting to see what happens IF ANYTHING on Oct 5th wrt to the "squares." Hope it's true!

[Ladygolfer93]

The Villages.
Believe it or don't, I could not care less. Just sharing information, not rumor. They were scheduled to open in August but had to walk that back after bars were shut down by the governor.

Thank YOU ! Hope you got the word straight, and, if you did not, certainly am not going to admonish you for "spreading rumors". I'm going to keep the positive thought, hope you got the true information, and "hope". As an aside, I also "hope" this news does not open up a whole new round of name calling and nasty snide remarks from those who do NOT want to go hear the music ! Don't people realize "most" of us understand, "most" of us DO have friends or neighbors with serious health issues that make even open air listening to music something their physicians advise against. But the vitriol posted at times, the hate, and even one "I hope you DIE from the virus" kind of remarks are so out of place. If you read this and other posts, and you believe (or know) you have issues that could make the present virus a serious matter for you, no one will "blame" you at all for not coming down. I simply do not believe most people are that hateful, but, please people, if you personally are not well enough to come down right now, do not start posting nasty remarks to those who are so happy to see this small uplifting pleasure.... listening to music. If you can't, or don't want to go, please just read the post and pass on to the next. Don't feel compelled to write remarks similar to: Go join the germ crowd if you wish, I hope you all DIE ! Yep, people will do things like that. Personally I can't ski any more, I do not post I hope my friends who still can will fall and break their necks this winter !

[thelegges]

There are many "intelligent people" and also a lot of "not so intelligent people" who kill it for the so-called "intelligent people." When (not if) infection rates start going up again this winter as virtually every science based and not political based opinion says you think they will keep the bars opened? They already tried in once and it failed probably due to the lack of all those "intelligent people" which is why this State performed at the bottom of the pile in deaths and infections albeit not that bad in this area but lousy all around it. Still waiting to see what happens IF ANYTHING on Oct 5th wrt to the "squares." Hope it's true!

Since the rest of my family is still in healthcare, as is more than a hundred Of my colleagues, I have a more positive outlook.
If you face Covid on a daily basis, with not so great PPEs And are doing well, I don’t worry about a possible drive by event. After all one could die in their sleep without ever being exposed.
My hope is they will require the squares be resident only, to give them more control

[JSR22]

Since the rest of my family is still in healthcare, as is more than a hundred Of my colleagues, I have a more positive outlook.
If you face Covid on a daily basis, with not so great PPEs And are doing well, I don’t worry about a possible drive by event. After all one could die in their sleep without ever being exposed.
My hope is they will require the squares be resident only, to give them more control
That can not happen! The squares are open to the public.

[EdFNJ]

Since the rest of my family is still in healthcare, as is more than a hundred Of my colleagues, I have a more positive outlook.
If you face Covid on a daily basis, with not so great PPEs And are doing well, I don’t worry about a possible drive by event. After all one could die in their sleep without ever being exposed.
My hope is they will require the squares be resident only, to give them more control :thumbup: Sounds like a plan.

[thelegges]

That can not happen! The squares are open to the public.

True, but since a % Number has to be controlled, and the developer owns the land they could have ideas.
If you get to the newly opened square, as a resident and find most of the clientele under 25 and you as a resident who will spend money, can’t get in. It will be a sad state of affairs.

After all Disney controlled their openings, first with invites only, then moving to Passholders only. Then didn’t open hotels to control the crowds, with almost everyone being a Florida resident. It’s worked for Disney by controlling who gets in.

[8notes]

Since the rest of my family is still in healthcare, as is more than a hundred Of my colleagues, I have a more positive outlook.
If you face Covid on a daily basis, with not so great PPEs And are doing well, I don’t worry about a possible drive by event. After all one could die in their sleep without ever being exposed.
My hope is they will require the squares be resident only, to give them more control

The logic of the above is really lacking. That's like saying "I smoked cigarettes and didn't get lung cancer, so you don't have to worry about smoking". Anyone who reads the papers or online news can see Florida infection/death stats are going up, not down, ever since they started reopening. Right now, this area isn't as bad, but wait until the snowbirds start coming back and the usual tourists. We know that social distancing won't be happening on the squares. There will be the science deniers who won't wear masks. Its a recipe for disaster.

[Toymeister]

Great news! Even better based upon the responses in this thread there are plenty of volunteers to stay home!!!!

[billethkid]

Doesn't it make one wonder why only one person "heard" the date!?!?

[thelegges]

The logic of the above is really lacking. That's like saying "I smoked cigarettes and didn't get lung cancer, so you don't have to worry about smoking". Anyone who reads the papers or online news can see Florida infection/death stats are going up, not down, ever since they started reopening. Right now, this area isn't as bad, but wait until the snowbirds start coming back and the usual tourists. We know that social distancing won't be happening on the squares. There will be the science deniers who won't wear masks. Its a recipe for disaster.

And that why one has the freedom to choose. Stay at home, groceries delivered to your door. Worrying is just as unhealthy.
Birds were here when things were shut down, many never left. Since you know people won’t wear masks, it’s a good reason to continue your way of life.
Yes smoked and no lung cancer, And I came back from Nam.
And yes Analogy of healthcare workers is pretty close. I lost count of how many times I was exposed to something that would cause serious harm to my health. Countless X-ray without gowns, TB no PPEs, and the list goes on, usually 3 to 4 weeks later and yet still around. You never have the time to worry about what can happen to yourself, only the outcome of those you care for. And yet most healthcare workers don’t think themselves as hero’s work during this crisis. It’s just their job.

Looks like the Sharon has a show October 9

[EdFNJ]

Doesn't it make one wonder why only one person "heard" the date!?!? A Starbucks employee in LSL heard nothing about it but she may have missed the "announcement." I'll speak to the manager in the morning. She should/would know because they have to reschedule as they are running at bare minimum employees in the evenings. It would be nice if it is true.

[EdFNJ]

And that why one has the freedom to choose. Stay at home, groceries delivered to your door. Worrying is just as unhealthy.
Birds were here when things were shut down, many never left. Since you know people won’t wear masks, it’s a good reason to continue your way of life.
Yes smoked and no lung cancer, And I came back from Nam.
And yes Analogy of healthcare workers is pretty close. I lost count of how many times I was exposed to something that would cause serious harm to my health. Usually 3 to 4 weeks later and yet still around. You never have the time to worry about what can happen to yourself, only the outcome of those you care for. And yet most healthcare workers don’t think themselves as hero’s work during this crisis. It’s just their job.

Why are you making this a binary decision? One doesn't have to only choose between (your quote) "Stay at home, groceries delivered to your door" and going into an uncontrolled crowd of dancers and drinkers and drunks bumping into each other. You think the old guys wearing their orange striped vests will be able to control ANY crowd? Have you seen them trying to enforce the open aisles at LSL when a "good" band is there. After 20 minutes they give up and stand in the back.

There are other shades of grey in between exposing yourself to hundreds of people in a crowded environment and sitting home with the shades drawn. I'm glad your survived all your dangerous experiences but many others aren't and weren't that lucky.

[tophcfa]

Since the rest of my family is still in healthcare, as is more than a hundred Of my colleagues, I have a more positive outlook.
If you face Covid on a daily basis, with not so great PPEs And are doing well, I don’t worry about a possible drive by event. After all one could die in their sleep without ever being exposed.
My hope is they will require the squares be resident only, to give them more control

That would be good, but I doubt it will happen. Having lots of potentially asymptomatic younger people not wearing masks in the squares will scare away many resident Villagers.

[dewilson58]

I heard the opening act is Jimmy Buffet.

[Northwoods]

They can't open the squares to just Villagers. It's a public place. The entertainment is paid for by the businesses around the square and a hotel tax. Villages residents don't pay a dime for the entertainment.
So, as far as I'm concerned ... "first come, first served."

[CanTho]

Thank YOU ! Hope you got the word straight, and, if you did not, certainly am not going to admonish you for "spreading rumors". I'm going to keep the positive thought, hope you got the true information, and "hope". As an aside, I also "hope" this news does not open up a whole new round of name calling and nasty snide remarks from those who do NOT want to go hear the music ! Don't people realize "most" of us understand, "most" of us DO have friends or neighbors with serious health issues that make even open air listening to music something their physicians advise against. But the vitriol posted at times, the hate, and even one "I hope you DIE from the virus" kind of remarks are so out of place. If you read this and other posts, and you believe (or know) you have issues that could make the present virus a serious matter for you, no one will "blame" you at all for not coming down. I simply do not believe most people are that hateful, but, please people, if you personally are not well enough to come down right now, do not start posting nasty remarks to those who are so happy to see this small uplifting pleasure.... listening to music. If you can't, or don't want to go, please just read the post and pass on to the next. Don't feel compelled to write remarks similar to: Go join the germ crowd if you wish, I hope you all DIE ! Yep, people will do things like that. Personally I can't ski any more, I do not post I hope my friends who still can will fall and break their necks this winter !

Your wish that quote " I Hope You All Die ", is a terrible thing to wish on people.

Now that said those who are unfortunate to come down with Covid - 19... FYI, very few people actually die from it. Now % wise more die from the " Flu " than Covid-19 .

Since you can no longer ski perhaps you should think seriously about taking up Skateboarding. Or Waterskiing .... :ho:

[thelegges]

Why are you making this a binary decision? One doesn't have to only choose between (your quote) "Stay at home, groceries delivered to your door" and going into an uncontrolled crowd of dancers and drinkers and drunks bumping into each other. You think the old guys wearing their orange striped vests will be able to control ANY crowd? Have you seen them trying to enforce the open aisles at LSL when a "good" band is there. After 20 minutes they give up and stand in the back.

There are other shades of grey in between exposing yourself to hundreds of people in a crowded environment and sitting home with the shades drawn. I'm glad your survived all your dangerous experiences but many others aren't and weren't that lucky.

Because there are many who are still in their homes, and having groceries delivered, it’s their decision. Shades drawn might be a little strange. We know a few who have not left their home since mid March. They are beyond afraid of ever coming in contact with anyone.

Then again we had 3 close friends die In August under 45, and not one had Covid. There are no guarantees in life, but one gets to choose how to live.

[graciegirl]

Because there are many who are still in their homes, and having groceries delivered, it’s their decision. Shades drawn might be a little strange. We know a few who have not left their home since mid March. They are beyond afraid of ever coming in contact with anyone.

Then again we had 3 close friends die In August under 45, and not one had Covid. There are no guarantees in life, but one gets to choose how to live.

"Beyond afraid" is an inaccurate assessment. For many people It is not fear but caution. One out of ten people die of Covid-19 if they catch it and they are in their late seventies or older. I am really getting tired of telling people that more people have not died of the seasonal flu than from Covid-19, but I was a teacher for many years so I will say it once more.

NOT FEAR. Caution.
More people have died in the world this year from Covid-19 than have died in the world this year from seasonal flu.

Covid-19 is very contagious but the safest way not to catch it and spread it is to wear a mask.

This is not a manufactured virus to boggle up the election in the U.S. It is a new version of an old virus and the damn thing is hell on wheels. It chokes you to death and you die gasping for air. It causes clots that cause strokes that can permanently impair you.

Most of us are pretty encouraged by the success of the vaccine clinical trials so far. We know that it may not keep people from getting it but it should keep people from getting it so bad.

The CDC keeps changing their advice because the information that they are accumulating is constantly refigured as new insight of the virus is learned.

[EdFNJ]

Then again we had 3 close friends die In August under 45, and not one had Covid. There are no guarantees in life, but one gets to choose how to live. Sorry about your friends but 200,000 others did die IN 6 MONTHS from this and thousands who did NOT die are now suffering debilitating and possibly permanent lung and/or heart damage and other side effects and while not from you I am so sick and tired of people (incorrectly) comparing this to the seasonal flu as there is no comparison. It's just puppeting fake information they are getting from the usual places. As for me I live a great life outdoors around here but I wouldn't be caught dead (oooops) NOW in a large crowd of people many who can't control themselves even when there was no pandemic. While I hope it's true for you I also sadly think it is possible this "squares opening" MIGHT unfortunately be yet another "Costco sighting".

Feel free to occupy my spot at LSL for now if there is truth to this "rumor" despite what the OP claims is fact. Oh, and a large number of shows for Oct and Nov have recently been cancelled. Some at Sharon and some at Savannah. My Queen tix have now been cancelled for the 3rd and final time. REALLY was hoping to see that at the end of October. Been getting lots of refunds from both over the last few weeks.

[JoMar]

Your wish that quote " I Hope You All Die ", is a terrible thing to wish on people.

Now that said those who are unfortunate to come down with Covid - 19... FYI, very few people actually die from it. Now % wise more die from the " Flu " than Covid-19 .

Since you can no longer ski perhaps you should think seriously about taking up Skateboarding. Or Waterskiing .... :ho:

The fact is that more people die with COVID then the flu. 50% of the population has hypertension, 40% are obese and 1% have diabetes....all treatable under normal conditions. COVID attacks the immune system so the normal treatments can't help the immune system. So yes, a small percentage (I think 6%) die from the virus but the other 90+ percentage die with the virus and it is a contributor. I also ponder how many of those that say if you are sick stay home and haven't been tested.....we don't know how many are asymptomatic. Cases are going up, hospitalizations are going up, deaths are going up so yes, it's a personal decision, would be nice if people made it unselfishly....but those days are gone.

[MandoMan]

Get there early, groups will be limited to 50% of capacity and social distancing.....get ready to rumble.

Would it help it it was limited to residents only for a few months? A lot of people come in from other places.

[MarkGoldberg]

Seems to me that the world, the country and The Villages are currently broken into 2 groups. Those that think masks and distancing are not important and those that do. All they need to do at the Squares is put a barrier down half of the Entertainment area and label it those who do and those who don’t. Want to be safe, sit on one side, don’t care, sit on the other. That way, you can have a better opportunity to keep distance from those who may not be as cautious as you.

[Rosie1950]

Seems to me that the world, the country and The Villages are currently broken into 2 groups. Those that think masks and distancing are not important and those that do. All they need to do at the Squares is put a barrier down half of the Entertainment area and label it those who do and those who don’t. Want to be safe, sit on one side, don’t care, sit on the other. That way, you can have a better opportunity to keep distance from those who may not be as cautious as you.

Yeah and I always thought they should have an area in the pools to pee in!!!!!
Anyone remember what it was like to be in a restaurant that had a “smoking section “.
Maybe the highways could have special lanes for drunk drivers, that might work.

[Stu from NYC]

I would imagine we will wait a month or so to see how this plays out and than decide if we want to attend.

Hopefully the powers to be will set this up in a responsible manner having learned from the errors of the recent past.

[BoatRatKat]

I don't know about that. We had a smallish event of several artists scheduled to show art in Nov on the square. We were just informed they have cancelled it and said no events until 2021. If they cancelled our small event I can't see how they'd allow entertainment and the crowds that brings in.

[Dana1963]

True, but since a % Number has to be controlled, and the developer owns the land they could have ideas.
If you get to the newly opened square, as a resident and find most of the clientele under 25 and you as a resident who will spend money, can’t get in. It will be a sad state of affairs.

After all Disney controlled their openings, first with invites only, then moving to Passholders only. Then didn’t open hotels to control the crowds, with almost everyone being a Florida resident. It’s worked for Disney by controlling who gets in.
Yes even B4 you get to Disney you will need to get to parking, then tickets and transportation boat or monorail. Not finished you will enter security area main gate.
Now THE SQUARES have nothing close to this. We are no where near the level of Disney. It will be first come first serve.
Rather than stand in line at kiosks I BYOB.

[gregcharlesnelson@gmail]

how about the classes (yoga etc.) when do they start? My wife has waited a long time

[Dana1963]

Your wish that quote " I Hope You All Die ", is a terrible thing to wish on people.

Now that said those who are unfortunate to come down with Covid - 19... FYI, very few people actually die from it. Now % wise more die from the " Flu " than Covid-19 .

Since you can no longer ski perhaps you should think seriously about taking up Skateboarding. Or Waterskiing .... :ho:
You are factually challenged Covid has taken 198,000 lives In 7 months

[Pamelah]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.
Why can’t people just say ,” yay! The square is opening!” And not add, “if you don’t like it stay home!” Why add the unkind zingers? Political I guess.

[Dana1963]

Would it help it it was limited to residents only for a few months? A lot of people come in from other places.
Sorry all roads in The Villages are public. Squares commercial property is owned and managed by Developer. Country Clubs are not Private. The only properties that access can be regulated are rec centers and pools

[Iowagirl2]

In response to the gentleman that said he like to ski but he can’t – – –Have you heard of the ski club here in the villages? It’s stands were Spending the Kids Inheritance.

[Leadbone1]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

Exactly, can’t wait to hear some music and actually maybe be able to do some dancing again. The people that are still walking around in total paranoia with their face is covered up can just stay home as you say. It’s not their place to tell us how to live our lives.

[Girlcopper]

The logic of the above is really lacking. That's like saying "I smoked cigarettes and didn't get lung cancer, so you don't have to worry about smoking". Anyone who reads the papers or online news can see Florida infection/death stats are going up, not down, ever since they started reopening. Right now, this area isn't as bad, but wait until the snowbirds start coming back and the usual tourists. We know that social distancing won't be happening on the squares. There will be the science deniers who won't wear masks. Its a recipe for disaster.
Then stay home and there will be more room there for the rest of us

[Leadbone1]

You are factually challenged Covid has taken 198,000 lives In 7 months

Well actually we already know that 25 to 50% of those deaths were actually from other causes that happened to have Covid along with them.. All part of the big lie. And all in seniors with several other mitigating conditions. We are not scared anymore! Stay home if you choose!

[Leadbone1]

That can not happen! The squares are open to the public.

Technically true, but on any given night how many people do you think from the surrounding areas are in the squares percentage wise as opposed to villagers. One or 2% at best would be my guess

[mcwood4d]

Yay! The squares are opening again!!

[Mardarlowe]

It's about time.

[paulajr]

There are many "intelligent people" and also a lot of "not so intelligent people" who kill it for the so-called "intelligent people." When (not if) infection rates start going up again this winter as virtually every science based and not political based opinion says you think they will keep the bars opened? They already tried in once and it failed probably due to the lack of all those "intelligent people" which is why this State performed at the bottom of the pile in deaths and infections albeit not that bad in this area but lousy all around it. Still waiting to see what happens IF ANYTHING on Oct 5th wrt to the "squares." Hope it's true!

Not sure where you are getting your “facts”... but after getting in a “debate” with a family member on how AWFuL Florida was doing..I did some research. Found out the population vs. death percentage of Florida and RI (where they lived).
Results...RI death rate was .101%. Florida .058%.
Tell me where we are the worst again?

[donfey]

Imagine how long the line of people will be at 5:55 at the drink huts if people are staying at least 6 feet apart : )

I wonder if the booze line at Spanish Springs will stretch all the way back to the bowling alley? LOL

[Queenie504]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

No problem. Hoping at least some of you have the brains enough to wear a mask.

[La lamy]

I may go on my bike and listen from afar. I look forward to live music again, although I wouldn't want it at the expense of lots of people getting sick. :pray:

[Carolynphelps]

Great news!! Yeah!!!!!! 👍🏻😊

[M2inOR]

Recall the construction projects where fences are brought in to control access within. I seem to recall that was done over the summer at LSL for a short time.

Barriers could be erected to control access. Simple screening like what's done when you enter the theme parks, some stores, and various health clinics.

There are already several entertainment locations and crowds seem to be manageable. And none of those restrict entry to outsiders.

Someday, the squares will join these other venues and businesses. Until there is official word, it's only speculation.

PS Brownwood already used the square for the Saturday morning farmer's market. There are barriers erected to limit vehicles. It's not overrun with people shopping.

[thelegges]

"Beyond afraid" is an inaccurate assessment. For many people It is not fear but caution.
NOT FEAR. Caution.


The few I am speaking of it’s not caution, it’s fear if they step outside they will not live. Refusing to see anyone. Almost like a PTSD. Agencies are starting to deal with these few, but have not made much progress. One always hopes there will be a turnaround, but sometimes Hope is not enough

[coffeebean]

No problem. Hoping at least some of you have the brains enough to wear a mask.

Can't wear a mask when sipping on an adult beverage.

[Joe C.]

Did you see how many people were at SS last evening? On the square, on the sidewalk, in front of DD, just walking or sitting and listening to the band at the restaurant?
So take off your masks, bring a chair, spread out a bit and ENJOY !!
(if it really does happen).:welcome::welcome::welcome:

[thelegges]

Can't wear a mask when sipping on an adult beverage.

Over 40 year in the OR, you most certainly can drink with a mask on. Plus goggles, gown, lead gown, and booties

[Guinessgirl]

I can’t wait! So excited to be hearing music life again and moving my bisy!

[BaileyMom]

My husband works for TV and said it was mentioned during roll call. He heard October 2. I looked online and see The Hooligans have two dates scheduled at our squares in October. I can’t wait!

[Jim 9922]

As someone recently wrote in one of the national newspapers: "until an effective vaccine is developed, you can either live FOR Covid or live WITH Covid". Isolate yourself in your personal bunker or carry on with your normal duties and life with reasonable precautions. Make YOUR OWN personal decision for YOUR OWN actions. I will make MY OWN reasonable decisions as to how I WILL approach the problem and tolerate the risks.

[meridian5850]

Yesterday's local television newscast reported the latest number of infections in Florida. After you actually do the math, the number of infections as a percentage of Florida's population is ..........3%. Subtracting that from 100 means 97% do not have it.

If I were TV and want to reopen the squares to entertainment, I would shut down the streets around the square to golf cart and automobile traffic to allow more people to attend the entertainment by spreading everyone out.

Also, there will be no dancing allowed.

[dwhite5773]

Just because the squares are opening you think the vents haven’t been ready to go on a daily basis? However many vents returned to stock pile, so your warning to everyone might keep them at home:1rotfl:
Really?

[quietpine]

Who cares?

[dwhite5773]

That can not happen! The squares are open to the public.
It’s public money, Sumter Couty bed tax that pays for much of LSL an BW squares entertainment. Open to public!

[richs631]

I have never, ever heard anyone say “I hope you die from the virus”. Let’s not exaggerate. If your afraid, STAY HOME.

[guitarguy]

Someone please explain this: The CDC website says wearing a cloth mask will not protect one from wildfire smoke (as in the west).
But a retired science person tells me a virus Such as COVID is much smaller than the dangerous particles in smoke. But, we are told to wear the mask for COVID protection.
I am an expert in this audience has the correct answer..

[Cranford61]

Get there early, groups will be limited to 50% of capacity and social distancing.....get ready to rumble.
Gotta fight off the Spruce Creekers, Water Oakers, and Del Webber’s and Lakeside Landers to get a limited seat.

[merrymini]

STAY HOME IF YOU ARE AFRAID. I hope this is true. Cannot wait for things to go back to normal! This has become the biggest drag. Hospitals lie to get extra money and medical people lie through their teeth and then ask us to trust them. Enough baloney! Let’s get back to work and life!

[T186021]

Nightly Super Spreader Events, wonder how this will affect the infection and death rates in the bubble related to Covid 19? Excellent case study material regarding covid 19 and a active retirement community.

[mulligan]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

Just because you spew, does not mean we believe. Source the info, or it's BS.

[davem4616]

As someone recently wrote in one of the national newspapers: "until an effective vaccine is developed, you can either live FOR Covid or live WITH Covid". Isolate yourself in your personal bunker or carry on with your normal duties and life with reasonable precautions. Make YOUR OWN personal decision for YOUR OWN actions. I will make MY OWN reasonable decisions as to how I WILL approach the problem and tolerate the risks.


Well said Jim

We all need to chart our own path and take what we feel are responsible actions

[Joanne19335]

I am all for positive moving forward. When the squares open the developer will have a plan, just like the major attractions have in Florida.
It’s sad that you think they will have to shut down the barS, and close the squares again. I truly believe that there are many intelligent people that live here, along with many essential workers that have survived and still walk among us.

They are few and far between. I predict a super spreader event and another shut down.

[asianthree]

Hospitals lie to get extra money

That is a fact, that most have no idea, diagnosis was a big moneymaker

[clwahlstrom]

I agree with you..

[Rosebud1949]

Rather than mix with a bunch of selfish non mask wearers, who are only too happy to spread the virus. But that starts at the "top" !!!


Source of this information is?

[Curtisbwp]

I agree, stay home. But you and i know some people just cant help themselves.

[chrissy2231]

I agree with 8quotes and GracieGirl. I won't go anywhere with large crowds. I like this forum where anyone can voice their idea or response. I have great respect for both sides. That's what freedom is all about.

[jimjamuser]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.
A pretty controversial thread opening! I suppose that ignores the advice of medical experts that say that CV could be controlled by only 95% of the people wearing masks and socially distancing. Since we have NOT done that yet, and may never, as has other countries - this square opening means that people from different households will be NOT wearing masks and coming too close to each other. This will further spread the disease and people will return from the Squares and SPREAD it to other people, who may have been more socially conscious, in other locations such as retail shopping. It is convenient to be able to PRETEND that there is NO PROBLEM, but that is NOT the REALITY. CV happens. You can not pretend it away. Pray away and pretend away the CV, good luck. Some local and national INFlUENCE - LEADERS are pointing YOU in the "pretend CV is nothing" direction and you are BUYING it. Enjoy you ILLUSION, but be careful what you wish for, it could KILL you. I am NOT sure that dancing to the "YMCA" song is worth DYING over!

[bobnyce]

That can not happen! The squares are open to the public.

Actually, the Squares are private property open to the public. But, I’m sure the Villages does not want to alienate the locals who enjoy the fun for free. I doubt you will see Villages only, since they already dumped that idea for Katie Belle’s. I think they should seek advice from the future apartment dwellers!

[Chitown]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

I’m with you. The minute it opens for music and entertainment I will visit all 3 and dance and enjoy the night away without any fear whatsoever

[coffeebean]

Over 40 year in the OR, you most certainly can drink with a mask on. Plus goggles, gown, lead gown, and booties

How can you drink with a mask on? I would love to know the trick.

[coffeebean]

Someone please explain this: The CDC website says wearing a cloth mask will not protect one from wildfire smoke (as in the west).
But a retired science person tells me a virus Such as COVID is much smaller than the dangerous particles in smoke. But, we are told to wear the mask for COVID protection.
I am an expert in this audience has the correct answer..

I'm not an expert and I can only relay what I have either heard or read from the experts.........

The virus particles do not travel by themselves. The virus is carried by droplets and aerosols which are much larger than the virus. One droplet can carry thousands of virus particles in it. A cloth or disposable mask can easily block many droplets from escaping into the air from an aymptomatic or pre-symptomatic carrier of the virus. Even aeorsols can be blocked by a fabric or disposable mask.

Universal masking (meaning everyone wears a mask) can drastically slow the spread of this virus. In fact, I have read that universal masking with 80% compliance by our population can put an end to this pandemic within 2 months. And......that is without a vaccine. THAT is how effective covering the face is when in public.

[NoMoSno]

Actually, the Squares are private property open to the public. But, I’m sure the Villages does not want to alienate the locals who enjoy the fun for free. I doubt you will see Villages only, since they already dumped that idea for Katie Belle’s. I think they should seek advice from the future apartment dwellers!
Actually, the roads around the squares are public property open to the public.

[tophcfa]

I’m with you. The minute it opens for music and entertainment I will visit all 3 and dance and enjoy the night away without any fear whatsoever

I guess if one can survive living in Chitown, why should they fear the stinking virus?

[Roron123]

Those who are nervous 😥 should just stay home and be a happier person than being so negative 👎

[jimjamuser]

Someone please explain this: The CDC website says wearing a cloth mask will not protect one from wildfire smoke (as in the west).
But a retired science person tells me a virus Such as COVID is much smaller than the dangerous particles in smoke. But, we are told to wear the mask for COVID protection.
I am an expert in this audience has the correct answer..
CV is small but "hitchhikes" onto people's breath droplets, which are LARGER than smoke particles. Cloth CAN stop the droplets. There are videos of this all over the internet.

[Barborv]

I read that also in "Inside the bubble" Listen, it can be OK but everyone needs to be smart! WEAR YOUR MASKS! I'm back at work in a high school and it's been going ok. Kids in classrooms are 6 ft apart and are allowed to take mask breaks. The hallways are crowded, but EVERYONE MUST WEAR THEIR MASKS PROPERLY! Outside of course is a much better scenario, but if there will be a lot of people then you have to wear masks. Not the most pleasant but you can do it. We have to start moving ahead but do it correctly!

[loufromnewjersey]

Yes it is true, the squares will open on Oct 2nd or 5th and you will need a pass to enter. Only one entrance and one exit. Entertainment and Events are working out the details

[Joe V.]

To “shut the front door” I also heard the square was reopening, The first band featured with be the Beatles followed by the comedy team of Bing Crosby and Bob Hope, I wonder if we both got our information from the same guy at the new Costco on 301??? LOL

Ryan Erisman, Inside the Bubble, is reporting this what he heard. He is attempting to pin this down. We shall see if this is the case.

[EdFNJ]

Yes it is true, the squares will open on Oct 2nd or 5th and you will need a pass to enter. Only one entrance and one exit. Entertainment and Events are working out the details LOL, passes, that's a funny one. So those that can't get in will fill up the sidewalks and streets all around. Nice try. Lots of good that would do. I hear they are putting a Costco in the store store where Van Heusen is now when they shut down next year and the new apartments they will build above it will be a nuru massage parlor.

[Dana1963]

Yes it is true, the squares will open on Oct 2nd or 5th and you will need a pass to enter. Only one entrance and one exit. Entertainment and Events are working out the details
I heard at Panera it will be by special invitation fundraiser for charity. Much like the event in Brownwood last year. Catered event with hors d'oeuvres with drinks.

[Dana1963]

How can you drink with a mask on? I would love to know the trick.
It’s called a straw newly invented for Covid 19

[Dana1963]

I wonder if the booze line at Spanish Springs will stretch all the way back to the bowling alley? LOL
BYOB it’s the easy way out.

[Dana1963]

"Beyond afraid" is an inaccurate assessment. For many people It is not fear but caution. One out of ten people die of Covid-19 if they catch it and they are in their late seventies or older. I am really getting tired of telling people that more people have not died of the seasonal flu than from Covid-19, but I was a teacher for many years so I will say it once more.

NOT FEAR. Caution.
More people have died in the world this year from Covid-19 than have died in the world this year from seasonal flu.

Covid-19 is very contagious but the safest way not to catch it and spread it is to wear a mask.

This is not a manufactured virus to boggle up the election in the U.S. It is a new version of an old virus and the damn thing is hell on wheels. It chokes you to death and you die gasping for air. It causes clots that cause strokes that can permanently impair you.

Most of us are pretty encouraged by the success of the vaccine clinical trials so far. We know that it may not keep people from getting it but it should keep people from getting it so bad.

The CDC keeps changing their advice because the information that they are accumulating is constantly refigured as new insight of the virus is learned.
Finally an accurate assessment and use of common sense. But you are dealing with many Villages LACKING COMMON SENSE.

[EdFNJ]

How can you drink with a mask on? I would love to know the trick.
A new mask allows people to drink without taking it off or exposing their mouth - CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/us/mask-drink-covered-coronavirus-trnd/index.html)

https://www.etsy.com/market/straw_mask (https://www.etsy.com/listing/849096685/party-drink-masksmouth-straw-mask?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=straw+mask&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&pro=1)

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And the best part is when you barf it doesn't cover everyone near you. You own it.

[coffeebean]

It’s called a straw newly invented for Covid 19

Do you lift your mask every time you take a sip? I’ve seen memes with a hole in the mask for the straw placement but that doesn’t seem to be a good idea for keeping the virus from spreading.

[TimeForChange]

Just in time for the "two tag er's" return and thousands from other states. I really don't care but if anyone thinks all of the Winter residents coming back is not going to spread the virus then you are very naive.

[Stu from NYC]

Just in time for the "two tag er's" return and thousands from other states. I really don't care but if anyone thinks all of the Winter residents coming back is not going to spread the virus then you are very naive.

Been wondering about what happens when the snow birds fly back

[Bay Kid]

Been wondering about what happens when the snow birds fly back

Let the party begin!

[Waynepoe]

Sitting up north and not sure it’s worth trip to the Villages again this year if the activities are curtailed.

[billethkid]

Been wondering about what happens when the snow birds fly back

Same as any previous year!!

[asianthree]

At least those who are not a fan of snowbirds, have a different reason to not be happy they are coming.

[Stu from NYC]

Same as any previous year!!

In connection with the virus obviously.

[Altavia]

Risk of transmission outside is low, I'm not aware of any cases traced to interaction in outside spaces. Polo is re-opening at 20% capacity.

There is an exposure dosage aspect to COVID risk that seems to factored by time (+15 min)? in interior spaces. CDC finally recognized the spread by aerosols in recirculated interior air. Recommendation is at least 6 fresh air exchanges per hour for interior air to be safe.

[asianthree]

Anyone have a count on the Covid deaths in TV, I thought it was less than 5, but that info could be wrong.

[daddymac1127]

According to the Florida Disaster website, there has been 65 deaths in Sumter County. Almost all those deaths have been for people over the age of 70. Since about 80% of the Villages is in Sumter County, i would say that 5 deaths seems low. The Florida site also states that there has been just over 600 cases of the virus in The Villages.

[graciegirl]

Sumter County cases
Updated Sep 21 at 1:57 PM local
Confirmed
2,164
+1
Deaths
65
Recovered
-
Florida cases
Updated Sep 21 at 1:57 PM local
Confirmed
685,439
+1,685
Deaths
13,480
+21

[canyonblue]

Sumter County Deaths by Age Group

0-4 years 0 deaths
5-14 years 0 deaths
15-24 years 0 deaths
25-34 years 0 deaths
35-44 years 1 death
45-54 years 2 deaths
55-64 years 2 deaths
65-74 years 14 deaths
75-84 years 27 deaths
85+ years 19 deaths

I can understand why anyone below age 34 would not care about wearing a mask, yet they are bearing the brunt of this. Their economy has tanked, job market bleak, but lets keep this up because it's all about us older Americans right?

[asianthree]

According to the Florida Disaster website, there has been 65 deaths in Sumter County. Almost all those deaths have been for people over the age of 70. Since about 80% of the Villages is in Sumter County, i would say that 5 deaths seems low. The Florida site also states that there has been just over 600 cases of the virus in The Villages.

How many from the prison which is in Sumter?
The obits to date had only listed 4 from TV

[asianthree]

Sumter County Deaths by Age Group

0-4 years 0 deaths
5-14 years 0 deaths
15-24 years 0 deaths
25-34 years 0 deaths
35-44 years 1 death
45-54 years 2 deaths
55-64 years 2 deaths
65-74 years 14 deaths
75-84 years 27 deaths
85+ years 19 deaths

I can understand why anyone below age 34 would not care about wearing a mask, yet they are bearing the brunt of this. Their economy has tanked, job market bleak, but lets keep this up because it's all about us older Americans right?

One was a prison guard in the 45 range.

Where I am now they just revisited the death certificates, and raised the number another 87

[pauld315]

True, but since a % Number has to be controlled, and the developer owns the land they could have ideas.


After all Disney controlled their openings, first with invites only, then moving to Passholders only. Then didn’t open hotels to control the crowds, with almost everyone being a Florida resident. It’s worked for Disney by controlling who gets in.

This gives the Villages another possible revenue stream. They could sell priority memberships to the squares or sell seats with waitress service so you don't have to stand at the drink shacks !!

[allus70]

The virus is carried on “larger” saliva droplets that are ejected from the mouth when coughing, talking and even breathing.

[Moderator]

The topic is Squares reopening. Let's not turn this into a general Covid/Villages deaths discussion.

Moderator

[Bay Kid]

Seems like every year about this time people complain that I am coming back to my home in TVs that I have owned for many years.

Always makes me fell so welcome.12 months a year I pay taxes, trash fees, etc.

[Stu from NYC]

Seems like every year about this time people complain that I am coming back to my home in TVs that I have owned for many years.

Always makes me fell so welcome.12 months a year I pay taxes, trash fees, etc.

Only here about 7 months and wonder why people should be like that.

[pauld315]

Been wondering about what happens when the snow birds fly back

I don't know but there will be a lot fewer of them since the Canadian border is closed as well as the ban on entry from Europe.

[Chi-Town]

Get ready.

[pauld315]

I see the developer's paper made it official today that the squares will reopen October 5th. One entrance and exit ( I hope they are different), limited amount of people daily (must have ticket from Villages entertainment for the day and location), must bring your own chair, no happy hour drink specials. What could possibly go wrong? Watch eBay and FB for ticket resales from scalpers. Sidewalks all around the squares will be packed. The same people who hoarded toilet paper will somehow end up with most of the tickets. Ought to be interesting.

[billethkid]

Some see a bushel of apples and are happy.
Others see the one and only bruised apple.....and the bruised apple becomes the focus!!

[JoelJohnson]

"They're nuts! They're nuts! They know nothing!"
Who recognizes this quote?

[Stu from NYC]

I see the developer's paper made it official today that the squares will reopen October 5th. One entrance and exit ( I hope they are different), limited amount of people daily (must have ticket from Villages entertainment for the day and location), must bring your own chair, no happy hour drink specials. What could possibly go wrong? Watch eBay and FB for ticket resales from scalpers. Sidewalks all around the squares will be packed. The same people who hoarded toilet paper will somehow end up with most of the tickets. Ought to be interesting.

Hopefully the powers to be will prevent scalping of free tickets Surprised everything is opening now.

Can only hope they know what they are doing.

[Rosie1950]

This ought to be good. Was trying to think of a way to VIEW and LISTEN from above. Having worked in the Villages for years I can honestly say there are MANY people by the name of Demanda, that reside in the Villages, any they will inform any gatekeeper of their rights that they pay for.
Now I KNOW the reply posts will say they DON’T pay for the entertainment in the squares, I KNOW that, but who actually thinks Demandas’ won’t be out in force?

[davem4616]

well who knew that the OP actually had the inside track and was protecting his sources by refusing to give up who it was that told him

we need to play it safe though...there's lot's of new cases of covid-19 showing up in the tri-county area

masks and social distancing is still the right thing to do

[Kenswing]

Seems like every year about this time people complain that I am coming back to my home in TVs that I have owned for many years.

Always makes me fell so welcome.12 months a year I pay taxes, trash fees, etc.
I've always wondered about that. I would think people would be happy about snowbirds. If it wasn't for snowbirds The Villages would be packed year round instead of just part of the year. So even though we won't be in The Villages for a few more months, I thank you for being a snowbird.

[oldtimes]

Seems like every year about this time people complain that I am coming back to my home in TVs that I have owned for many years.

Always makes me fell so welcome.12 months a year I pay taxes, trash fees, etc.

We look forward to having our snowbird neighbors back and usually throw a driveway party to celebrate.

[coffeebean]

We went to Edna's on the Green last night to see the Johnny Wild and the Delights Trio (Johnny and the two Delights). Social distancing was attempted by most. There are plenty of folks who sit together shoulder to shoulder and I assume they have all invited each other into their social group. Hubby and I still have only ourselves in our social group when we go out to a restaurant to dine indoors or listen to music outside.

There was no social distancing while waiting on line for the bar and very few masks. I don't know how this is going to work out with the squares opening.

[golfergirl1]

There was an article in today's Daily S7n explaining how the squares will open if you continued reading the back pages. Persons wishing to attend will need to get a free ticket at the box office for 1 Square per night. The squares will have 1 entrance and exit where tickets will need to be shown. Persons must also bring their own chairs. Don't worry about lines at the drink shacks as there will be NO Happy Hour pricing to avoid the line up hassle. The entertainment for the first night of Oct 5 is also listed in this article, Jimmy Buffet not among them lol. So the only place that will have lines for the limited tickets will be the box offices, either in person or online. For those interested I wish good luck and good health. I will be watching on the web cam to see how this all works out.

[JGVillages]

Reserve your apartment where Katie Belle’s used to be. Nightly entertainment off your Veranda!

[Stu from NYC]

There was an article in today's Daily S7n explaining how the squares will open if you continued reading the back pages. Persons wishing to attend will need to get a free ticket at the box office for 1 Square per night. The squares will have 1 entrance and exit where tickets will need to be shown. Persons must also bring their own chairs. Don't worry about lines at the drink shacks as there will be NO Happy Hour pricing to avoid the line up hassle. The entertainment for the first night of Oct 5 is also listed in this article, Jimmy Buffet not among them lol. So the only place that will have lines for the limited tickets will be the box offices, either in person or online. For those interested I wish good luck and good health. I will be watching on the web cam to see how this all works out.

We will wait and see how this plays out before getting in line for tickets

[Northwoods]

This ought to be good. Was trying to think of a way to VIEW and LISTEN from above.

Sure would be nice to have one of those proposed apartments around the square...

[Dgizzi]

I am going down to LSL and rope off my seats now.
We just read you have to get tickets ahead of time. Only so many people will be allowed in. You have to get them at the ticket box office. You have to reserve a day and which square you want to go too. So it isn’t first come first serve. It’s gonna be a pain Won’t be fun yet.

[EdFNJ]

I don't know but there will be a lot fewer of them since the Canadian border is closed as well as the ban on entry from Europe. As for Canadians, they can fly here or get here by train (or boat :) ) . That entry is not closed. They can ship their "stuff" here so while the "drive your car through" the Canadian border is closed they can still get here with just a little bit of inconvenience. As for Europe. there are a few UK folks here already, not sure how they got here, I guess where there is a will there is a way.

[Stu from NYC]

As for Canadians, they can fly here or get here by train (or boat :) ) . That entry is not closed. They can ship their "stuff" here so while the "drive your car through" the Canadian border is closed they can still get here with just a little bit of inconvenience. As for Europe. there are a few UK folks here already, not sure how they got here, I guess where there is a will there is a way.

I understand the European folks took the tunnel.

[Ladygolfer93]

October 5. YEA!
If you don't like it, stay home.

HOOOOOO RAY ! :coolsmiley::coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

[Stu from NYC]

Wondering how hard it will be to get tickets.

For most groups we have found the squares are not crowded. Obviously for the most popular ones tickets will go quick.

Hoping people do not get tickets and than decide to stay home.

[rustyp]

How about golf cart parking only around the four sides of the squares ? Only one cart per space in what is marked off as an automobile space. We can sit in our own carts while having social distancing marked off for us and not have to go get a ticket at the box office - when ? The day before ? What if I decided to go after dinner tonight ?

[Dana1963]

"They're nuts! They're nuts! They know nothing!"
Who recognizes this quote?
Jim Cramer August 2007
In an August 2007 interview on CNBC, Cramer ripped the Federal Reserve for not recognizing the risks facing the economy at the time due to a downturn in the housing market. Investors had already started selling stocks and real estate in favor of less risky assets, such as bonds and gold.

“My people have been in this game for 25 years and they’re losing their jobs and these firms are gonna go out of business and it’s nuts. They’re nuts! They know nothing! This is a different kinda market. And the Fed is asleep,”

[billethkid]

One still has access to the entertainment on all four streets that frame the square.....where most people tend to gather and stroll around.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

We look forward to having our snowbird neighbors back and usually throw a driveway party to celebrate.
Because of them we have so many things to enjoy with less crowds the rest of year . You know I always find it funny when people only live in Florida for 4 or 4 years and say they hate snowbirds , I love them , 31 years in Florida
some times as a snow bird but now only away 2 months in summer in Boston most years and reverse snowbird most winters in Hawaii or Miami Beach but nothing this year

[billethkid]

Permanent resident ID's?
Annually renewable like trail fees.
With priority points earned based on years in residence with different levels like cruise ship memberships.

:faint:

(just kidding!)

[rustyp]

How does this new system of get a ticket at the box office work ? Will one need an ID to get an admission ticket ? Can one get an admission ticket online ? If tickets are free will some abuse it by either getting tickets and being no shows or ordering large quantities? Will the system promote scalping ? Will there be tickets for sets I.E. usually 4 sets per night and most people only stay for one or two of the sets. Let's say it's 7 pm and there are plenty of vacant spots within the Square - will you still need a ticket ? 6PM, 8PM? Will there be training of the bright colored tee shirts personnel to prevent abuse of power - like being admitted at a popular nightspot ?

[Dana1963]

How does this new system of get a ticket at the box office work ? Will one need an ID to get an admission ticket ? Can one get an admission ticket online ? If tickets are free will some abuse it by either getting tickets and being no shows or ordering large quantities? Will the system promote scalping ? Will there be tickets for sets I.E. usually 4 sets per night and most people only stay for one or two of the sets. Let's say it's 7 pm and there are plenty of vacant spots within the Square - will you still need a ticket ? 6PM, 8PM? Will there be training of the bright colored tee shirts personnel to prevent abuse of power - like being admitted at a popular nightspot ?
What if, what if play the game visit box office get tickets go, scalp or not it’s up to you.

[Stu from NYC]

What if, what if play the game visit box office get tickets go, scalp or not it’s up to you.

Hopefully the powers to be thought thru all aspects of this including people do not stay for the entire evening.

Typically we are there for first two sets and than off to a restaurant for dinner.

[rustyp]

What if, what if play the game visit box office get tickets go, scalp or not it’s up to you.

Constructively I do not want to be the selfish one that gets a ticket and then decides not to show the next night. I attend the squares often but mostly on the spur of the moment. I like to be a good neighbor and not think solely of myself.

[Stu from NYC]

Constructively I do not want to be the selfish one that gets a ticket and then decides not to show the next night. I attend the squares often but mostly on the spur of the moment. I like to be a good neighbor and not think solely of myself.

I wonder if they thought of this and will allow for people to come and go

[Bogie Shooter]

What if?

My God the sky is already falling........................

[xkeowner]

Florida Governor just opened restaurants for 100% occupancy.

From the news article: "The Friday announcement will allow restaurants to immediately reopen at full capacity and would block cities and counties from ordering restaurants to close unless they can justify a closure for economic or health reasons."

Possibly the squares will follow in a short time.

[thelegges]

Anyone apologize to OP for giving correct info, when posters were so negative about OP was wrong

[Dgizzi]

Get there early, groups will be limited to 50% of capacity and social distancing.....get ready to rumble.
You have to get tickets ahead of time supposedly..it does not sound good. I’ll just stick to hanging out at the bars. I have been having fun there.

[Stu from NYC]

Anyone apologize to OP for giving correct info, when posters were so negative about OP was wrong

Your right he did have the facts and should be thanked.

[rustyp]

Can anyone give us an update how the Town Squares are working out ?

- still have to get tickets? if so is it a pain ?
- what is happening if there are no shows - are you let in ? Is it dependent on time / music set ?
- are people sitting on sidewalks ?
- same old entertainment or different ?
- social distancing ?
- size of crowds in and around the squares are compared to before shutdown

[asianthree]

Can anyone give us an update how the Town Squares are working out ?

- still have to get tickets? if so is it a pain ?
- what is happening if there are no shows - are you let in ? Is it dependent on time / music set ?
- are people sitting on sidewalks ?
- same old entertainment or different ?
- social distancing ?
- size of crowds in and around the squares are compared to before shutdown
Getting tickets would only be a pain if you have no idea how to use a computer
If there are no shows, after 6pm, they will allow people in to allowed #
Some sitting in golf carts, but most stay clear. Except those taking photos of those inside
Some regular groups, some I have not seen before, but I may have never noticed
There are so few that you can social distance more than 6 ‘
Size are being regulated to have social distance, so obviously not the same size crowd. But seems to be just residents at this point

[bluedivergirl]

Can anyone give us an update how the Town Squares are working out ?

- still have to get tickets? if so is it a pain ?
- what is happening if there are no shows - are you let in ? Is it dependent on time / music set ?
- are people sitting on sidewalks ?
- same old entertainment or different ?
- social distancing ?
- size of crowds in and around the squares are compared to before shutdown

We've been to the Squares twice: Once in Spanish Springs, once at Lake Sumter. You do have to get tickets. We plan ahead, and DH gets them online. Easy.

They will let ticket-less people in if the Square is under capacity. We were allowed into Brownwood spur of the moment; The Hooligans were at Lake Sumter, but the Square was full and we were not allowed in.

The only place we saw sidewalk sitters was SS which has spacious sidewalks. At the other squares, people park the golf carts short of the spot, and sit in front in the parking spot. At Brownwood, they also congregate in the undeveloped restaurant porches.

Same entertainment.

People are following social distancing, and the monitors encourage it. Masks are often worn until people get themselves situated, then they are usually removed.

The number of people in the Square is far fewer than pre-pandemic. We had no worries about attending.

[rustyp]

We've been to the Squares twice: Once in Spanish Springs, once at Lake Sumter. You do have to get tickets. We plan ahead, and DH gets them online. Easy.

They will let ticket-less people in if the Square is under capacity. We were allowed into Brownwood spur of the moment; The Hooligans were at Lake Sumter, but the Square was full and we were not allowed in.

The only place we saw sidewalk sitters was SS which has spacious sidewalks. At the other squares, people park the golf carts short of the spot, and sit in front in the parking spot. At Brownwood, they also congregate in the undeveloped restaurant porches.

Same entertainment.

People are following social distancing, and the monitors encourage it. Masks are often worn until people get themselves situated, then they are usually removed.

The number of people in the Square is far fewer than pre-pandemic. We had no worries about attending.

Thanks for the info - I went online to see how easy it is to get a pass. I got as far as "print out you receipt". This looked like a confirmation sheet - is that the pass you take to the square for admittance ?

[bluedivergirl]

Thanks for the info - I went online to see how easy it is to get a pass. I got as far as "print out you receipt". This looked like a confirmation sheet - is that the pass you take to the square for admittance ?


Yes, it is. They will scan it, just as they would for The Sharon or Savannah. They give it back to you so you can leave the Square and re-enter if you like. They also scan if you leave. I think it gives them a better head count.

[asianthree]

Thanks for the info - I went online to see how easy it is to get a pass. I got as far as "print out you receipt". This looked like a confirmation sheet - is that the pass you take to the square for admittance ?

I don’t print, saving as many trees as possible. Show tickets on my phone they scan with no problems

[charmed59]

I am impressed the opening of the squares seemed to have no impact on the local COVID numbers or hospitalization rates. They are doing a good job of opening safely.

[EdFNJ]

Can anyone give us an update how the Town Squares are working out ?

- still have to get tickets? if so is it a pain ?
- what is happening if there are no shows - are you let in ? Is it dependent on time / music set ?
- are people sitting on sidewalks ?
- same old entertainment or different ?
- social distancing ?
- size of crowds in and around the squares are compared to before shutdown


At LSL we always see people sitting around their golf carts on at least 3 sides of the square. NO ONE is sitting on the sidewalks. That is not permitted. The "security guards" will chase them away. Very few are wearing masks in the square and many groups are sitting together. There is lots of open space if one wants to "social distance."

As for tickets. just go after 6PM.

They let anyone in WITHOUT TICKETS after 6PM as long as there is less than their max number of people there (whatever that number is). Other than for The Hooligans or possibly the 2 or 3 days we missed at LSL over the last couple weeks between 5-6PM it has been pretty empty. Any time we asked they said "you could go right in."

They should dispense with the tickets and since they are counting entries anyway just count people as they go in. Once the "no ticket" folks are allowed in I would think scanning people in/out doesn't mean much.

[Villager-Wannabe]

Thanks for the info - I went online to see how easy it is to get a pass. I got as far as "print out you receipt". This looked like a confirmation sheet - is that the pass you take to the square for admittance ?

No, the "print out your receipt" is just what it says, it's a "receipt", not a ticket. They send you the actual ticket, as a pdf attachment, to the email address you have registered with them. You should receive the emailed ticket shortly after you submit what you have added to your "shopping cart". Once you receive your emailed ticket, just download the pdf attachment to your hard drive and then print it out on your printer. You don't have to show the entire 8.5 x 11 paper to the ticket scanner, just cut out the ticket which is about 2" x 7"., that's all they need to see. They scan the bar code that is on the ticket.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

So tickets versus first come first serve to maximum allowed. Both concepts or approaches would work, so what did the chosen approach say about the attitudes/preferences of those who made the decision?

Yes, this an analytic question about the human behaviors or biases on display, therefore any answers are opinions are not right or wrong.

My interpretation is that there is an element of interest of who or how many which is always of interest in the sales and marketing of the villages, as well as the staffing and supply management. My other interpretation is one of control in the current environment, which is understandable. Now NH restaurants are taking names and addresses of patrons for contact tracing and advanced notices of exposure versus after the fact you been exposed and spreading. My boss got a text or phone message recently that he had played hockey in the last week with several who have tested positive, but I don't quite give FL that proactive explanation, especially with the 100% rule now open.

So I am going to interpret the choice between tickets and first come first served as optimistically, a marketing / expectational way of managing the supply chain and creating a revenue forecast basis from their commercial tenants. In the commercial retail financial management viewpoint, predicting future revenue streams does help predict demand to supply relationships, as well as any lending repayment restrictions or expectations. . . The square is a commercial operation which has had their business hit very hard due to the customer demographics.

any other interpretations with a bit of reasoning? always interested in understanding motivations. . .

sportsguy