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vintageogauge
09-22-2020, 07:01 AM
A totally unannounced seal and chip contract for all roadways in the village of Fenney started last week. This was a total surprise to everyone as until the signs when up that roadwork was starting no one knew this was scheduled. The heavy oil they used along with stone chips along residential streets has brought black stain onto driveways both bare, painted, and those with pavers. The stains also go into the garages sticking to the concrete and also to those floors that have epoxy coatings. This mess does not scrub off nor does it come off completely with a power washer. The company doing this says it will clean itself after 3 weeks and a couple heavy rains. It doesn't rain in garages and with the porosity of both concrete and pavers I doubt this will be gone in 3 weeks. Has this ever been done in other villages that are less than 4 years old on "all" roadways within the village and if so how did you get your driveways clean. Our street is still sticky after 6 days and it is also all over the cars. What a mess.

Decadeofdave
09-22-2020, 08:42 AM
Bad move for residential streets. It's a penetrating rejuvinator (pen-seal)
that is more effective on high traffic streets. The fine gravel is to absorb excess material, they will sweep it after a few days. Stains are inevitable.

GreySkies
09-22-2020, 09:17 AM
A high-powered pressure cleaner (Gas type, 3000 psi) and Zep Heavy-Duty Floor Stripper:

How To Remove Tar or Asphalt Sealer From Concrete & Brick - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbHYOfxdj2M&ab_channel=WindyCitySteam)

in 2018 the streets in my neighborhood in WPB where re-sealed. I used the process mentioned in the video to clean my pavers and garage floor of the tar stains that developed.

Do not attempt to clean until the re-sealed roads have had sufficient time to dry, usually a month or two after the initial post seal dirt is swept up.

Topspinmo
09-22-2020, 11:30 AM
Fenney not that old why are the treating the streets? I could see main roads where traffic heavy.

DeanFL
09-22-2020, 01:37 PM
Funny not that old why are the treating the streets? I could see main roads where traffic heavy.

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for the life of me, I simply do not understand the science, or reasoning, behind sealing/coating asphalt streets, parking lots, etc IN CENTRAL FLORIDA. Totally get it 'up north' with the thaw/freeze/crack cycles. WHY in FL? Is it simply asthetic?

Please Mr (Mrs) Science, tell us....
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vintageogauge
09-22-2020, 02:06 PM
I think someone has too much tax money, what a waste.

Mrprez
09-22-2020, 03:02 PM
I think it has to do with the sun baking the streets. I took a close look at ours in DeSoto and they are looking bleached.

vintageogauge
09-22-2020, 03:39 PM
I think it has to do with the sun baking the streets. I took a close look at ours in DeSoto and they are looking bleached.

You should pray that they're not coming to DeSoto next week. Nothing wrong with bleach looking blacktop, sure beats what we have to look at now. There are villages much older than Fenney that have not had this done to their streets. I'm thinking kickbacks.

Mrprez
09-22-2020, 05:16 PM
You should pray that they're not coming to DeSoto next week. Nothing wrong with bleach looking blacktop, sure beats what we have to look at now. There are villages much older than Fenney that have not had this done to their streets. I'm thinking kickbacks.

Oh, I am right there with you. I won’t even go into Fenney until this is all done and dries up. I dread the day we see those signs sprout up overnight. We might have to leave for a few weeks.

Windguy
09-23-2020, 05:53 AM
Such surfaces have a very rough texture and make riding a road bike on them rather unpleasant.

stadry
09-23-2020, 06:07 AM
[QUOTE=GreySkies;1836737]A high-powered pressure cleaner (Gas type, 3000 psi) and Zep Heavy-Duty Floor Stripper:

How To Remove Tar or Asphalt Sealer From Concrete & Brick - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbHYOfxdj2M&ab_channel=WindyCitySteam)

need to be careful when using higher psi pressure washers as its not difficult to remove the paste on the surface thereby exposing the coarse aggregate ingredient of the concrete
at 1 time we repaired asphalt & conc roadways/parking aprons/bdges - can't imagine why rejuvenator would be used on a fairly new road
totally different items - sealcoating to protect the asphalt content oxidation vs crack filling/sealing w/rubberized asphalt sealants to prevent incompressible & water intrusion vs slurryseal coatings vs pavement rejuvenators

JoelJohnson
09-23-2020, 07:26 AM
They resurfaced Rose Lane yesterday, half is bumpy and uneven while the other half is good, why? First there was no notice and they blocked traffic while doing this cul de sac. WHo do I complain about this?

Topspinmo
09-23-2020, 07:47 AM
Such surfaces have a very rough texture and make riding a road bike on them rather unpleasant.

Due to all the oil probably slick when wet?

Jbbest
09-23-2020, 08:39 AM
It wasn't unannounced. They left flyers on everyone's door prior to doing it, there were street signs on the streets as well.

Joe V.
09-23-2020, 08:46 AM
They resurfaced Rose Lane yesterday, half is bumpy and uneven while the other half is good, why? First there was no notice and they blocked traffic while doing this cul de sac. WHo do I complain about this?

Not anyone on this site.

Rzepecki
09-23-2020, 09:19 AM
They resurfaced Rose Lane yesterday, half is bumpy and uneven while the other half is good, why? First there was no notice and they blocked traffic while doing this cul de sac. WHo do I complain about this?

Go to Districtgov.org and start with contacting customer service, then sign up with the weekly district bulletin.

OhioBuckeye
09-23-2020, 09:30 AM
A totally unannounced seal and chip contract for all roadways in the village of Fenney started last week. This was a total surprise to everyone as until the signs when up that roadwork was starting no one knew this was scheduled. The heavy oil they used along with stone chips along residential streets has brought black stain onto driveways both bare, painted, and those with pavers. The stains also go into the garages sticking to the concrete and also to those floors that have epoxy coatings. This mess does not scrub off nor does it come off completely with a power washer. The company doing this says it will clean itself after 3 weeks and a couple heavy rains. It doesn't rain in garages and with the porosity of both concrete and pavers I doubt this will be gone in 3 weeks. Has this ever been done in other villages that are less than 4 years old on "all" roadways within the village and if so how did you get your driveways clean. Our street is still sticky after 6 days and it is also all over the cars. What a mess.
Oh man more work for the home owner. Can’t believe the roads in Fenney need maintenanced already!

Joanne19335
09-23-2020, 10:00 AM
Sumter County’s 25% tax increase at work.

ShaSha
09-23-2020, 11:17 AM
Unfortunately all are at the whims if TV. Can’t complain here. Daily Sun is ridiculous. So it is falling on deaf ears. If notified all could have made a plan. So bottom line you will have to hire a company to do it . Probably on the Morse payroll.

vintageogauge
09-23-2020, 11:21 AM
Unfortunately all are at the whims if TV. Can’t complain here. Daily Sun is ridiculous. So it is falling on deaf ears. If notified all could have made a plan. So bottom line you will have to hire a company to do it . Probably on the Morse payroll.

I doubt that this has anything to do with the Morse family. It was either Wildwood or Sumter County, either way it was a total waste of taxpayer money and a huge inconvenience for the residents. I heard today that they are going to continue into DeSoto and McClure but not sure if that is true.

Mrprez
09-23-2020, 12:19 PM
I doubt that this has anything to do with the Morse family. It was either Wildwood or Sumter County, either way it was a total waste of taxpayer money and a huge inconvenience for the residents. I heard today that they are going to continue into DeSoto and McClure but not sure if that is true.

Let’s hope you were hearing things.😂

Betty Wagner
09-23-2020, 12:41 PM
Yes it's a mess. But Mr Clean scrubbers with Dawn will take the markings off the garage floor, ours is painted, without a lot of elbow grease.
Don't really know why Fenney had to have this done. The Bouganvillea villas road had the grates covered and taped down and the covering is still there, some of it half peeled off. So why didn't they clean up after?

vintageogauge
09-23-2020, 04:11 PM
Yes it's a mess. But Mr Clean scrubbers with Dawn will take the markings off the garage floor, ours is painted, without a lot of elbow grease.
Don't really know why Fenney had to have this done. The Bouganvillea villas road had the grates covered and taped down and the covering is still there, some of it half peeled off. So why didn't they clean up after?

This did not have to be done, it's all about money in someones pocket and too many tax dollars lying around with nothing to spend it on. I wonder if they are going to re-paint the lines on Fenney Way? Friday hey should be posting the signs in DeSoto.

dewilson58
09-23-2020, 04:13 PM
I wonder if they are going to re-paint the lines on Fenney Way?


Would like to see lots'a painting throughout TV.

dewilson58
09-23-2020, 04:15 PM
Sumter County’s 25% tax increase at work.


Noooooooooooooo, 100% of the tax increase went directly into the Developer's pocket (sarcasm).......that's what we heard all last year.

kendi
09-23-2020, 04:54 PM
Fenney not that old why are the treating the streets? I could see main roads where traffic heavy.

Thought I read something a while back that they were going to so this. The coating helps lengthen the life span of the road surface, if I remember correctly. So it would be to preserving, not fixing.

ditka41
09-23-2020, 05:07 PM
Oh, how utterly stupid! Our driveway was just decoratively painted a month ago. I expect this fiasco will amount to a wasted $3,900.00 for us personally, plus lots of hard work trying to salvage it. How many (and which) Government Bozo's in Wildwood did it take to approve this insanity? They must not know how to get rid of all the money they're taking in from this area of the Villages. How can we meet with these idiots to fully express outrage? Will they send crews out to restore our driveways to the current appearance? --- Won't hold my breath, but this is inexcusable.

Mrprez
09-23-2020, 05:18 PM
This did not have to be done, it's all about money in someones pocket and too many tax dollars lying around with nothing to spend it on. I wonder if they are going to re-paint the lines on Fenney Way? Friday hey should be posting the signs in DeSoto.

Hush your mouth😀!

RonI46
09-23-2020, 09:19 PM
A totally unannounced seal and chip contract for all roadways in the village of Fenney started last week. This was a total surprise to everyone as until the signs when up that roadwork was starting no one knew this was scheduled. The heavy oil they used along with stone chips along residential streets has brought black stain onto driveways both bare, painted, and those with pavers. The stains also go into the garages sticking to the concrete and also to those floors that have epoxy coatings. This mess does not scrub off nor does it come off completely with a power washer. The company doing this says it will clean itself after 3 weeks and a couple heavy rains. It doesn't rain in garages and with the porosity of both concrete and pavers I doubt this will be gone in 3 weeks. Has this ever been done in other villages that are less than 4 years old on "all" roadways within the village and if so how did you get your driveways clean. Our street is still sticky after 6 days and it is also all over the cars. What a mess.

I don’t know if the highway department in Florida knows what they are doing. Up north with freezing and thawing roads last a heck of a lot longer than they do down here. They lay roads up north in layers of 3 or more inches at a time instead of 1 or 2 inches like they do here. Last year they dug up som streets in Mallory Square all the way down to dirt and then laid new macadam and those roads were maybe 12 or 13 years old, why didn’t they last longer with only local and lite weight traffic sing the streets.

OhioBuckeye
09-24-2020, 09:17 AM
Oh, how utterly stupid! Our driveway was just decoratively painted a month ago. I expect this fiasco will amount to a wasted $3,900.00 for us personally, plus lots of hard work trying to salvage it. How many (and which) Government Bozo's in Wildwood did it take to approve this insanity? They must not know how to get rid of all the money they're taking in from this area of the Villages. How can we meet with these idiots to fully express outrage? Will they send crews out to restore our driveways to the current appearance? --- Won't hold my breath, but this is inexcusable.
Ditka41, I feel for you! Don’t know the whole story behind this but TV have to know how expensive this was for the home owner to beautify their driveways & then let a street crew come in & maybe in some cases ruined the drive that the home owner put so much pride in. What was TV Board thinking? They had to know the tar or whatever they used would ruin it or be another big expense to the home owner. Better call in BLM protestors they’ll straighten it out, LOL, just kidding that would be terrible!

vintageogauge
09-24-2020, 07:21 PM
I finally drove on my pavers, I waited a full week keeping one car at the end of the driveway before they sprayed to keep anyone from turning around in my driveway and one car parked on the street for a week that we had to carry a separate pair of shoes to so we didn't carry the oil into the car. After a week I was happy to see that I did not track any oil onto the pavers, many if not all of my neighbors have the black tire marks on their driveways and are trying to get it off with power washers. This should never have been done to residential streets. It looks like HE--, the pavement looks greasy, the concrete on the sides of the pavement is now stained brown, the yellow and white lines on Fenney Way are now discolored, all of the brickwork at the rec. center area is now stained black and the worst part is they used little 3 or 4 inch sand bags to keep the crap from going into the drains that empty into the retention ponds and they did nothing to stop it when it did rain last week. Not a work about this was in the Daily Sun or that other news outlet. I would like to know how much we as taxpayers in Wildwood paid for this mess.

charlieo1126@gmail.com
09-25-2020, 09:20 AM
Yes it truly is a mess , I’m using separate sandals to get newspaper or any thing else , but this is another reason why after owning 14 new homes I’ve never felt the need to decorate or seal garage or driveway

vintageogauge
09-25-2020, 10:24 AM
Yes it truly is a mess , I’m using separate sandals to get newspaper or any thing else , but this is another reason why after owning 14 new homes I’ve never felt the need to decorate or seal garage or driveway

I don't do the garage floor as I have to have somewhere to make a mess but pavers add so much to the exterior appearance of theses homes, it's worth the extra effort and expense to take care of them.

stadry
09-25-2020, 11:55 AM
if it were public work, a call to the country purchasing dept should reveal contract terms/costs,,, i suspect streets in tv are not public but privately owned,,, if so, you're out of luck finding out anything

Bdame
09-25-2020, 03:54 PM
Announced or not doesn’t t seem like a very good idea unless the announcement included what you should do when it’s done to prevent these after effects

graciegirl
09-25-2020, 06:59 PM
I finally drove on my pavers, I waited a full week keeping one car at the end of the driveway before they sprayed to keep anyone from turning around in my driveway and one car parked on the street for a week that we had to carry a separate pair of shoes to so we didn't carry the oil into the car. After a week I was happy to see that I did not track any oil onto the pavers, many if not all of my neighbors have the black tire marks on their driveways and are trying to get it off with power washers. This should never have been done to residential streets. It looks like HE--, the pavement looks greasy, the concrete on the sides of the pavement is now stained brown, the yellow and white lines on Fenney Way are now discolored, all of the brickwork at the rec. center area is now stained black and the worst part is they used little 3 or 4 inch sand bags to keep the crap from going into the drains that empty into the retention ponds and they did nothing to stop it when it did rain last week. Not a work about this was in the Daily Sun or that other news outlet. I would like to know how much we as taxpayers in Wildwood paid for this mess.

Public Works Department | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (https://sumtercountyfl.gov/92/Public-Works)

vintageogauge
09-25-2020, 08:19 PM
if it were public work, a call to the country purchasing dept should reveal contract terms/costs,,, i suspect streets in tv are not public but privately owned,,, if so, you're out of luck finding out anything

The streets are public not privately owned. I found that it was Wildwood that did this not the County.

charlieo1126@gmail.com
09-27-2020, 09:08 AM
When I sold my homes , all with a nice profit , no one ever mentioned that the driveway needed decorating , and when people come to visit me, they may say Oh your landscaping is great or your decor is beautiful ( it is ) but they never say Oh to bad you didn’t Decorate the driveway

vintageogauge
09-27-2020, 09:10 AM
When I sold my homes , all with a nice profit , no one ever mentioned that the driveway needed decorating , and when people come to visit me, they may say Oh your landscaping is great or your decor is beautiful ( it is ) but they never say Oh to bad you didn’t Decorate the driveway

What on earth does that have to do with the topic of this post????

charlieo1126@gmail.com
09-27-2020, 09:51 AM
Because someone answered me about why he does it

Marathon Man
09-27-2020, 10:01 AM
I finally drove on my pavers, I waited a full week keeping one car at the end of the driveway before they sprayed ...

At least one person was aware that the work was planned. So, I am wondering why some are saying that there was no warning.

vintageogauge
09-27-2020, 05:28 PM
Photo of the crap foaming up from the oil on the road during current rain running down the edge of the road then going into the drains and right into the retention ponds.

vintageogauge
09-27-2020, 06:10 PM
At least one person was aware that the work was planned. So, I am wondering why some are saying that there was no warning.

There was no advanced notice anywhere from anyone until the day the signs popped up stating that roadwork will begin tomorrow.

charlieo1126@gmail.com
09-28-2020, 09:37 AM
The signs were up for over a week with a way to find out, even if they didn’t give any notice , what would you do , call the family, the mayor , throw yourself in front of the trucks

mulligan
09-28-2020, 09:55 AM
if it were public work, a call to the country purchasing dept should reveal contract terms/costs,,, i suspect streets in tv are not public but privately owned,,, if so, you're out of luck finding out anything
Some villas have private streets, but all the rest are public streets owned by and maintained by the county they are in.

vintageogauge
09-28-2020, 11:13 AM
The signs were up for over a week with a way to find out, even if they didn’t give any notice , what would you do , call the family, the mayor , throw yourself in front of the trucks

Your sarcasm was not called for, and It's called transparency. Wildwood should have had a news release on this just as Sumter County has done for repairs on Morse, no one knew what those signs meant and the information given regarding when you can safely drive on it and how it would come off of the driveways was totally erroneous. No one knows if this sealer is toxic, many dogs walked in it and then came home licking their paws to get it off and now the residue is in the retention ponds. If given the proper notice and would have know how sloppy this stuff was I would have found a place nearby to park one of our cars. The signs were not up over a week, they started near Bingham on the 3rd day. This was slipped in by Wildwood because they knew there would be a lot of backlash. There are older streets within Wildwood that have never been sealed, I question why those were not done first.